European Leagues.

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Maroon Manc

Quote from: Syferus on May 03, 2018, 05:09:10 PM
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Avoided the game last night apart from watching 10 minutes when Roma equalised then Liverpool went 2-1 up.

I've a little hope now but expecting the worst, to go 5-0 up during the first leg then be hanging on near the end shows what Liverpool are about, still think their a fair bit of winning a league title thankfully.,

They will always ship goals because of Klopp's instinct to push them forward.  Losing big leads has been a trend with this team but it's slowly being addressed.  Van Dijk's arrival has already seen a big improvement at the back and a lot less goals conceded.  A few quality additions in the summer will help further.  Last night showed again that Klarius and Lovren are not to be trusted in the bigger games.  A bit more nous in game management and cynicism at times to break play up when a team has a run on them would help too.

They've certainly improved but to win a title he's going to have find some quality players mainly a goalie, a centre half and and a real quality attacking player to push the front 3. I don't know how many points they've dropped at home but appears they've a real problem with teams who come to defend at Anfield.

Klopp worked wonders in the transfer market the past 12 months, it won't be easy to replicate it especially when their won't be huge sums available.

What?

They've made $100 million alone for making the CL final and a top four finish in the EPL is a massive windfall too. They have plenty of money to spend. They are the eighth biggest club on Earth in market value.

Little bit more complex than that.

Compare United & Liverpool's EBITDA and then a quick look at both clubs cash position. Liverpool are already committed to spending about £50m on Keita this summer too and I think he's got rid of most of the player he  doesn't want that would command big transfer fee's. Klopp is going to have to work wonders this summer to get a squad capable of winning the title.

Wouldn't the Coutiniho sale cover both the VVD and Keita outlays by itself?

Klopp's problem is that he can't build a defence more than it is lack of money. His system isn't very supportive of it, just like Pep's isn't but he has better players overall up front (Salah excluded none of the Liverpool forwards or attacking players would make the first choice City team). So if he's going to build the ultimate expression of his system he needs better players than Henderson, Oxlade-Chamberlin, Lalanna, Milner servicing the forwards, and there needs to be cover for the front three to boot. Keita might solve those problems somewhat.

And even with that said, Lovren is obviously a donkey and needs to go so they do need a CB to partner VVD.

Selling Coutinho obviously helps but Liverpool's owners like the Glazers run a tight ship, I don't see them committing to huge spending on the back of selling one player. They've handed out some huge contracts to Van Dijk and Firminho too and I'm sure a new contract for Salah isn't far away either. In the last accounts Liverpool had £4m in cash compared to United's £290m.

StGallsGAA

Rough looking for Kosceilney!  Season and World Cup over before it's begun.  What's most surprising is that Diego Costa wasn't responsible!  :D

Captain Obvious

Awful time for Arsenal to concede a goal.

Captain Obvious

No happy ending for Wenger with Arsenal.

Carmen Stateside

Quote from: Syferus on May 03, 2018, 05:09:10 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 03, 2018, 05:06:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 03, 2018, 02:52:00 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 03, 2018, 12:50:50 PM
Quote from: Armamike on May 03, 2018, 12:26:31 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 03, 2018, 09:45:37 AM
Avoided the game last night apart from watching 10 minutes when Roma equalised then Liverpool went 2-1 up.

I've a little hope now but expecting the worst, to go 5-0 up during the first leg then be hanging on near the end shows what Liverpool are about, still think their a fair bit of winning a league title thankfully.,

They will always ship goals because of Klopp's instinct to push them forward.  Losing big leads has been a trend with this team but it's slowly being addressed.  Van Dijk's arrival has already seen a big improvement at the back and a lot less goals conceded.  A few quality additions in the summer will help further.  Last night showed again that Klarius and Lovren are not to be trusted in the bigger games.  A bit more nous in game management and cynicism at times to break play up when a team has a run on them would help too.

They've certainly improved but to win a title he's going to have find some quality players mainly a goalie, a centre half and and a real quality attacking player to push the front 3. I don't know how many points they've dropped at home but appears they've a real problem with teams who come to defend at Anfield.

Klopp worked wonders in the transfer market the past 12 months, it won't be easy to replicate it especially when their won't be huge sums available.

What?

They've made $100 million alone for making the CL final and a top four finish in the EPL is a massive windfall too. They have plenty of money to spend. They are the eighth biggest club on Earth in market value.

Little bit more complex than that.

Compare United & Liverpool's EBITDA and then a quick look at both clubs cash position. Liverpool are already committed to spending about £50m on Keita this summer too and I think he's got rid of most of the player he  doesn't want that would command big transfer fee's. Klopp is going to have to work wonders this summer to get a squad capable of winning the title.

Wouldn't the Coutiniho sale cover both the VVD and Keita outlays by itself?

Klopp's problem is that he can't build a defence more than it is lack of money. His system isn't very supportive of it, just like Pep's isn't but he has better players overall up front (Salah excluded none of the Liverpool forwards or attacking players would make the first choice City team). So if he's going to build the ultimate expression of his system he needs better players than Henderson, Oxlade-Chamberlin, Lalanna, Milner servicing the forwards, and there needs to be cover for the front three to boot. Keita might solve those problems somewhat.

And even with that said, Lovren is obviously a donkey and needs to go so they do need a CB to partner VVD.

Firmino would walk onto any team in europe right now. 

Avondhu star

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 03, 2018, 10:00:55 PM
No happy ending for Wenger with Arsenal.
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That would be more Rooney's area
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

Milltown Row2

Liverpool 2/1 is a cracking bet
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

SHEEDY

Barcelona's bid for an invincible season looks under real threat, currently 5-1 down against levante  :o
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gawa316

Quote from: SHEEDY on May 13, 2018, 09:04:27 PM
Barcelona's bid for an invincible season looks under real threat, currently 5-1 down against levante  :o

5-3 now, they couldn't could they?

Minder

#879
Some fella called Coutinho has scored a hat trick

Edit - 5-4
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

SHEEDY

5-4 now. You just know they're gonna go on to win it now.
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SHEEDY

Some match. 9 goals, 12 bookings and barcelona lose their unbeaten record. No one saw that coming.
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Captain Obvious

Europa League Final on tonight. Atletico Madrid 2nd in La Liga priced at  4/9 while Marseille 4th in the french ligue are 9/4.

Spanish sides have won 5 of the last 8 Europa leagues while a French team has never won this cup.

Cunny Funt

2-0 Atletico both goals from Griezmann.