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On this day, 105 years ago, RMS Titanic sank with a loss of 1500 souls, including some of the wealthiest people in the world.
All because Harland and Wolff used grade 3 rivets instead of grade 4. 

15th April

On this day 28 years ago, 96 people died in the Hillsborough stadium before being robbed of their dignity by The Sun and South Yorkshire police.

I always remember it because I was in Portadown outside Jameson's shop on High Street where I was collecting a new pram for my daughter born two days earlier.  I had to wait for them to bring the pram out of a store and was listening with disbelief to the commentary on the car radio.

I listen to this podcast daily. Always some very interesting on this day stories on it.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/on-this-day-podcast/id1075327020?mt=2

Quote from: armaghniac on April 15, 2017, 05:39:43 PM
On this day, 105 years ago, RMS Titanic sank with a loss of 1500 souls, including some of the wealthiest people in the world.
All because Harland and Wolff used grade 3 rivets instead of grade 4.

Not completely true

North Korea today marking the 105th anniversary of their "Great Leader" Kim Il Sung.
HE and his dynasty a bit more lasting than the Titanic ;D.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2017, 07:30:36 PM

Quote from: armaghniac on April 15, 2017, 05:39:43 PM
On this day, 105 years ago, RMS Titanic sank with a loss of 1500 souls, including some of the wealthiest people in the world.
All because Harland and Wolff used grade 3 rivets instead of grade 4.

Not completely true

The rivets would have been OK if the ship had not a fire in the coal bunker and/or not sailed into an iceberg.

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 15, 2017, 08:27:53 PM
The rivets would have been OK if the ship had not a fire in the coal bunker and/or not sailed into an iceberg.

The extent of the fire is open to debate. The point about the iceberg is well made though, if they had travelled a couple of knots more slowly, as conditions required,  the Titanic would have been unknown except as a footnote in the history of H&W.

The iceberg seems to be erased from history in some people's version of events.

Quote from: armaghniac on April 15, 2017, 08:36:17 PM

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 15, 2017, 08:27:53 PM
The rivets would have been OK if the ship had not a fire in the coal bunker and/or not sailed into an iceberg.

The extent of the fire is open to debate. The point about the iceberg is well made though, if they had travelled a couple of knots more slowly, as conditions required,  the Titanic would have been unknown except as a footnote in the history of H&W.

Unknown as the biggest liner of its time...thousands of other unknown ships built in the yard, this wasn't one of them, irrespective of the sinking and loss of 1500 souls

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2017, 08:49:11 PM
Unknown as the biggest liner of its time...thousands of other unknown ships built in the yard, this wasn't one of them, irrespective of the sinking and loss of 1500 souls

As the middle child, the Titanic would not have been particularly remembered. It was only marginally larger than the Olympic due to a few small changes ot make it harder to sink, the old lags in the shipyard always reckoned the Olympic was the better ship (being the first). But the Olympic would not be much remembered either, outside H&W, had the Titanic not sank.

Quote from: armaghniac on April 15, 2017, 09:45:42 PM

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2017, 08:49:11 PM
Unknown as the biggest liner of its time...thousands of other unknown ships built in the yard, this wasn't one of them, irrespective of the sinking and loss of 1500 souls

As the middle child, the Titanic would not have been particularly remembered. It was only marginally larger than the Olympic due to a few small changes ot make it harder to sink, the old lags in the shipyard always reckoned the Olympic was the better ship (being the first). But the Olympic would not be much remembered either, outside H&W, had the Titanic not sank.

So it was the largest liner? And your bitterness is sad

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2017, 10:30:55 PM

Quote from: armaghniac on April 15, 2017, 09:45:42 PM

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2017, 08:49:11 PM
Unknown as the biggest liner of its time...thousands of other unknown ships built in the yard, this wasn't one of them, irrespective of the sinking and loss of 1500 souls

As the middle child, the Titanic would not have been particularly remembered. It was only marginally larger than the Olympic due to a few small changes ot make it harder to sink, the old lags in the shipyard always reckoned the Olympic was the better ship (being the first). But the Olympic would not be much remembered either, outside H&W, had the Titanic not sank.

So it was the largest liner? And your bitterness is sad

To be honest that's a pathetic response to a point well researched and put across.

Quote from: trileacman on April 15, 2017, 11:20:13 PM

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2017, 10:30:55 PM

Quote from: armaghniac on April 15, 2017, 09:45:42 PM

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2017, 08:49:11 PM
Unknown as the biggest liner of its time...thousands of other unknown ships built in the yard, this wasn't one of them, irrespective of the sinking and loss of 1500 souls

As the middle child, the Titanic would not have been particularly remembered. It was only marginally larger than the Olympic due to a few small changes ot make it harder to sink, the old lags in the shipyard always reckoned the Olympic was the better ship (being the first). But the Olympic would not be much remembered either, outside H&W, had the Titanic not sank.

So it was the largest liner? And your bitterness is sad

To be honest that's a pathetic response to a point well researched and put across.

Was it not the biggest liner of its time when built?? His point is simple, he's belittling something that was some achievement for Harlands, his well researched point on the sinking of the ship was missing many other factors, but you failed to pull him on that too, armaghnaic would admit to being a bitter person anyways

I can't see how bitterness enters into it. It was an Olympic class ship, these ships were indeed a huge achievement for H&W. All I said was that as the middle one Titanic would not be well known if it hadn't gone down as it did.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2017, 11:30:28 PM

Quote from: trileacman on April 15, 2017, 11:20:13 PM

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2017, 10:30:55 PM

Quote from: armaghniac on April 15, 2017, 09:45:42 PM

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2017, 08:49:11 PM
Unknown as the biggest liner of its time...thousands of other unknown ships built in the yard, this wasn't one of them, irrespective of the sinking and loss of 1500 souls

As the middle child, the Titanic would not have been particularly remembered. It was only marginally larger than the Olympic due to a few small changes ot make it harder to sink, the old lags in the shipyard always reckoned the Olympic was the better ship (being the first). But the Olympic would not be much remembered either, outside H&W, had the Titanic not sank.

So it was the largest liner? And your bitterness is sad

To be honest that's a pathetic response to a point well researched and put across.

Was it not the biggest liner of its time when built?? His point is simple, he's belittling something that was some achievement for Harlands, his well researched point on the sinking of the ship was missing many other factors, but you failed to pull him on that too, armaghnaic would admit to being a bitter person anyways

I think it was Sinn Fein's fault to be honest

Quote from: The Stallion on April 15, 2017, 08:37:54 PM
The iceberg seems to be erased from history in some people's version of events.

It wasn't erased from history. It melted.

For those of you of a particular age, this was No.1 in US on this day in 1979:

https://youtu.be/WGU_4-5RaxU (https://youtu.be/WGU_4-5RaxU)

And they're still going 37 years later in 2016:

https://youtu.be/eU3Ia_bvqEc (https://youtu.be/eU3Ia_bvqEc)


On tour in 2017.  In London Roundhouse in May and unfortunately with Phil Collins in the Aviva on 25 June or Hyde Park on 30 June 2017.  You always live before Collins comes on stage.

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 28, 2017, 09:38:31 AM
For those of you of a particular age, this was No.1 in US on this day in 1979:

https://youtu.be/WGU_4-5RaxU (https://youtu.be/WGU_4-5RaxU)

And they're still going 37 years later in 2016:

https://youtu.be/eU3Ia_bvqEc (https://youtu.be/eU3Ia_bvqEc)


On tour in 2017.  In London Roundhouse in May and unfortunately with Phil Collins in the Aviva on 25 June or Hyde Park on 30 June 2017.  You always live before Collins comes on stage.

Great song.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2017, 07:30:36 PM

Quote from: armaghniac on April 15, 2017, 05:39:43 PM
On this day, 105 years ago, RMS Titanic sank with a loss of 1500 souls, including some of the wealthiest people in the world.
All because Harland and Wolff used grade 3 rivets instead of grade 4.

Not completely true

It's widely accepted among engineers that if they'd used all steel rivets as per the design instead if cheaper and weaker iron rivets the hull would not have separated to the same extent.  The point is therefore true.

On this day 30th April 1975 the US lost the Vietnam War with the fall of Saigon.

The Fall of Saigon, or the Liberation of Saigon, depending on context, was the capture of Saigon, the capital of South Vietnam, by the People's Army of Vietnam and the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam (also known as the Việt Cộng) on April 30, 1975. The event marked the end of the Vietnam War and the start of a transition period to the formal reunification of Vietnam under the Socialist Republic.

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 01, 2017, 12:01:43 AM
On this day 30th April 1975 the US lost the Vietnam War with the fall of Saigon.

The Fall of Saigon, or the Liberation of Saigon, depending on context, was the capture of Saigon, the capital of South Vietnam, by the People's Army of Vietnam and the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam (also known as the Việt Cộng) on April 30, 1975. The event marked the end of the Vietnam War and the start of a transition period to the formal reunification of Vietnam under the Socialist Republic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67IycFCHM7g
and as discussed in the documentaries thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIsRK6mQxjY

On this day, 1st May 1997, the Labour Party led by Tony Blair gained its greatest number of seats, 418, leaving a Conservative rump of just 165 but with Liberals with 46.

In every election since, in 2001, 2005, 2010, 2015, Labour has lost seats.

The Labour campaign song was Things Can Only Get Better, this has turned out to be over optimistic.

https://youtu.be/gi5j7jjhm4M (https://youtu.be/gi5j7jjhm4M)

1997 has turned out to be peak Labour.

On this day, on May 1st 1169, the first Normans landed  at Bannow near Wexford led by Robert Fitz Stephen and Maurice de Prendergast.
They are still going after 868 years, even longer than Blondie.

Quote from: armaghniac on May 01, 2017, 08:21:48 PM
On this day, on May 1st 1169, the first Normans landed  at Bannow near Wexford led by Robert Fitz Stephen and Maurice de Prendergast.
They are still going after 868 years, even longer than Blondie.

they were invited to Ireland by the Kilkenny hurling manager

Quote from: seafoid on May 01, 2017, 08:45:49 PM

Quote from: armaghniac on May 01, 2017, 08:21:48 PM
On this day, on May 1st 1169, the first Normans landed  at Bannow near Wexford led by Robert Fitz Stephen and Maurice de Prendergast.
They are still going after 868 years, even longer than Blondie.

they were invited to Ireland by the Kilkenny hurling manager

well they were noted for superior tactics.

On this day, 3 May 1921, the Government of Ireland Act 1920 partitioned of Ireland into two distinct jurisdictions, Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland.

The Act of 1920 was intended to create two self-governing territories within Ireland, with both remaining within the United Kingdom. It also contained provisions for co-operation between the two territories and for the eventual reunification of Ireland. However, in 1922, following the War of Independence and the Anglo-Irish Treaty, the southern part became independent as the Irish Free State, while Northern Ireland exercised its option to remain in the United Kingdom.

On this day, 3rd May 1997, Mo Mowlam became the Secretary of State for N.Ireland.

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 03, 2017, 01:21:58 PM
On this day, 3 May 1921, the Government of Ireland Act 1920 partitioned of Ireland into two distinct jurisdictions, Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland.

The Act of 1920 was intended to create two self-governing territories within Ireland, with both remaining within the United Kingdom. It also contained provisions for co-operation between the two territories and for the eventual reunification of Ireland. However, in 1922, following the War of Independence and the Anglo-Irish Treaty, the southern part became independent as the Irish Free State, while Northern Ireland exercised its option to remain in the United Kingdom.

"while Northern Ireland exercised its option to remain in the United Kingdom" doesn't give the full story.
Many people disagreed

Quote from: seafoid on May 03, 2017, 01:37:46 PM

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 03, 2017, 01:21:58 PM
On this day, 3 May 1921, the Government of Ireland Act 1920 partitioned of Ireland into two distinct jurisdictions, Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland.

The Act of 1920 was intended to create two self-governing territories within Ireland, with both remaining within the United Kingdom. It also contained provisions for co-operation between the two territories and for the eventual reunification of Ireland. However, in 1922, following the War of Independence and the Anglo-Irish Treaty, the southern part became independent as the Irish Free State, while Northern Ireland exercised its option to remain in the United Kingdom.

"while Northern Ireland exercised its option to remain in the United Kingdom" doesn't give the full story.
Many people disagreed

That's copy and paste for you

Quote from: leenie on May 03, 2017, 02:53:11 PM

Quote from: seafoid on May 03, 2017, 01:37:46 PM

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 03, 2017, 01:21:58 PM
On this day, 3 May 1921, the Government of Ireland Act 1920 partitioned of Ireland into two distinct jurisdictions, Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland.

The Act of 1920 was intended to create two self-governing territories within Ireland, with both remaining within the United Kingdom. It also contained provisions for co-operation between the two territories and for the eventual reunification of Ireland. However, in 1922, following the War of Independence and the Anglo-Irish Treaty, the southern part became independent as the Irish Free State, while Northern Ireland exercised its option to remain in the United Kingdom.

"while Northern Ireland exercised its option to remain in the United Kingdom" doesn't give the full story.
Many people disagreed

That's copy and paste for you

Yep.  No point about here in sticking your own neck out to frame any facts. 

BTW, whether many disagreed or not makes no difference to the fact that N.Ireland decided to stay in the UK.  Just as 48% of the votes in the UK EU referendum were against the exit of the UK from the EU does not change the fact that the UK is exercising its option to leave the EU.

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 03, 2017, 03:00:14 PM

Quote from: leenie on May 03, 2017, 02:53:11 PM

Quote from: seafoid on May 03, 2017, 01:37:46 PM

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 03, 2017, 01:21:58 PM
On this day, 3 May 1921, the Government of Ireland Act 1920 partitioned of Ireland into two distinct jurisdictions, Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland.

The Act of 1920 was intended to create two self-governing territories within Ireland, with both remaining within the United Kingdom. It also contained provisions for co-operation between the two territories and for the eventual reunification of Ireland. However, in 1922, following the War of Independence and the Anglo-Irish Treaty, the southern part became independent as the Irish Free State, while Northern Ireland exercised its option to remain in the United Kingdom.

"while Northern Ireland exercised its option to remain in the United Kingdom" doesn't give the full story.
Many people disagreed

That's copy and paste for you

Yep.  No point about here in sticking your own neck out to frame any facts. 

BTW, whether many disagreed or not makes no difference to the fact that N.Ireland decided to stay in the UK.  Just as 42% of the votes in the UK EU referendum were against the exit of the UK from the EU does not change the fact that the UK is exercising its option to leave the EU.

Remain was 48%

The point about NI is that it is a divided society . It's not a normal statelet.

Sorry fixed it.  Still doesn't change the result.

N.Ireland is no more a divided society than Scotland based on religion and the referendum result, Wales in economic terms and England in racial terms.

Have you been to many parts of England recently.  It is incredibly divided society in so many ways.  The whole Brexit vote has highlighted the attitude to outsiders, immigrants, migrants, refugees, etc.  The little Englander attitude has hardened considerably.  Many large cities in the North are ghettoised on economic terms and on racial terms.  While other parts of the country are virtually untouched by immigration and migration.  The conservatives will win a landslide in the election but on a very small proportion of both the population and the electorate.  This further polarises and divides English society.

Take a few minutes to view the video of Tim Farron meeting a little Englander.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2017/may/03/tim-farron-confronted-by-angry-brexit-voter-video (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2017/may/03/tim-farron-confronted-by-angry-brexit-voter-video)

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 03, 2017, 01:21:58 PM
On this day, 3 May 1921, the Government of Ireland Act 1920 partitioned of Ireland into two distinct jurisdictions, Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland.

The Act of 1920 was intended to create two self-governing territories within Ireland, with both remaining within the United Kingdom. It also contained provisions for co-operation between the two territories and for the eventual reunification of Ireland. However, in 1922, following the War of Independence and the Anglo-Irish Treaty, the southern part became independent as the Irish Free State, while Northern Ireland exercised its option to remain in the United Kingdom.

The fact that partition was already in effect before the treaty is often forgotten

Quote from: macdanger2 on May 03, 2017, 11:21:58 PM

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 03, 2017, 01:21:58 PM
On this day, 3 May 1921, the Government of Ireland Act 1920 partitioned of Ireland into two distinct jurisdictions, Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland.

The Act of 1920 was intended to create two self-governing territories within Ireland, with both remaining within the United Kingdom. It also contained provisions for co-operation between the two territories and for the eventual reunification of Ireland. However, in 1922, following the War of Independence and the Anglo-Irish Treaty, the southern part became independent as the Irish Free State, while Northern Ireland exercised its option to remain in the United Kingdom.

The fact that partition was already in effect before the treaty is often forgotten

That's the British for you. They rig the outcome before the talks.

One hundred years ago today, Sinn Féin (original authentic version) put up a prisoner for the the South Longford by-election, at the behest of Michael Collins, and won the election.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/all-changed-utterly-after-south-longford-byelection-100-years-ago-today-35694291.html

Apart from getting Joe McGuinness elected, Collins spent his time in Longford chatting up one Kitty Kiernan.

Quote from: armaghniac on May 10, 2017, 07:02:00 PM
One hundred years ago today, Sinn Féin (original authentic version) put up a prisoner for the the South Longford by-election, at the behest of Michael Collins, and won the election.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/all-changed-utterly-after-south-longford-byelection-100-years-ago-today-35694291.html

Apart from getting Joe McGuinness elected, Collins spent his time in Longford chatting up one Kitty Kiernan.

Did he Skype her from Frongoch?

Quote from: Avondhu star on May 10, 2017, 07:08:09 PM

Quote from: armaghniac on May 10, 2017, 07:02:00 PM
One hundred years ago today, Sinn Féin (original authentic version) put up a prisoner for the the South Longford by-election, at the behest of Michael Collins, and won the election.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/all-changed-utterly-after-south-longford-byelection-100-years-ago-today-35694291.html

Apart from getting Joe McGuinness elected, Collins spent his time in Longford chatting up one Kitty Kiernan.

Did he Skype her from Frongoch?

Of course not. Collins had many great qualities, being able to Skype women he hadn't met yet was not one of them.

On this day, on 11 May 1985, the Bradford City fire disaster claimed the lives of 56 spectators and injured 265 others when a largely wooden stand caught fire from underneath at Valley Parade.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_City_stadium_fire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_City_stadium_fire)

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 11, 2017, 02:57:30 PM
On this day, on 11 May 1985, the Bradford City fire disaster claimed the lives of 56 spectators and injured 265 others when a largely wooden stand caught fire from underneath at Valley Parade.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_City_stadium_fire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_City_stadium_fire)

And a chairman who was a bit of a pyromaniac!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/15/bradford-fire-stafford-heginbotham-martin-fletcher (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/15/bradford-fire-stafford-heginbotham-martin-fletcher)

On this day, 15th May 1974, the Ulster Workers Council strike began.

From Wiki:

The strike was called by unionists who were against the Sunningdale Agreement, which had been signed in December 1973. Specifically, the strikers opposed the sharing of political power with Irish nationalists, and the proposed role for the Republic of Ireland's government in running Northern Ireland

The strike was organised and overseen by the Ulster Workers' Council and Ulster Army Council, which were formed shortly after the Agreement's signing. Both of these groups included Ulster loyalist paramilitaries such as the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) and Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF). These groups helped to enforce the strike by blocking roads and intimidating workers. During the two-week strike, loyalist paramilitaries killed 39 civilians, of which 33 died in the Dublin and Monaghan bombings.

The strike succeeded in bringing down the power-sharing Northern Ireland Assembly and Executive. Responsibility for the government of Northern Ireland then reverted to the Parliament of the United Kingdom at Westminster under the arrangements for 'Direct Rule'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Workers%27_Council_strike (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Workers%27_Council_strike)

On this day in 1997 Amazon went public if you invested 10k back then be worth $6.5 million now

On this day, 16th May 1943, the Nazis completed their suppression of the rising in Jewish ghetto in Warsaw after 28 days of fighting. The uprising was ended by the destruction of the Great Synagogue on this day. 13,000 Jews were killed in the ghetto during the uprising (some 6,000 among them were burnt alive or died from smoke inhalation). Of the remaining 50,000 residents, most were captured and shipped to concentration and extermination camps, in particular to Treblinka. The ghetto was razed to the ground and replaced by the Warsaw concentration camp.

Quote from: Gmac on May 16, 2017, 12:09:31 AM
On this day in 1997 Amazon went public if you invested 10k back then be worth $6.5 million now

Where's the time machine?. Some return.

Lest we forget.

Friday 17 May 1974
Dublin and Monaghan Bombings; 33 People Killed
Day 3 of the UWC strike

33 civilians and an unborn child were killed in the Republic of Ireland as a result of a series of explosions when four car bombs were planted by Loyalist paramilitaries in Dublin and Monaghan. Approximately 258 people were also injured in the explosions. The death toll from the bombings was the largest in any single day of the conflict. No one was ever arrested or convicted of causing the explosions. On 15 July 1993 the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) claimed sole responsibility for carrying out the bomb attacks.

In Dublin three car bombs exploded, almost simultaneously at approximately 5.30pm, in Parnell Street, Talbot Street, and South Leinster Street. 23 men, women and children died in these explosions and 3 others died as a result of injuries over the following few days. Another car bomb exploded at approximately 7.00pm in North Road, Monaghan, killing 5 people initially with another 2 dying in the following weeks.

The first of the three Dublin bombs went off at approximately 5.28pm in Parnell Street. Eleven people died as a result of this explosion. The second of the Dublin bombs went off at approximately 5.30pm in Parnell Street. Fourteen people died in this explosion. The third bomb went off at approximately 5.32pm in South Leinster Street. Two people were killed in this explosion.

News of car bombs in Dublin and Monaghan raised tensions in Northern Ireland. Sammy Smyth, then press officer of both the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) and the Ulster Workers' Council (UWC) Strike Committee, said, "I am very happy about the bombings in Dublin. There is a war with the Free State and now we are laughing at them."

http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/events/dublin/chron.htm (http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/events/dublin/chron.htm)

On this day, 1st June 1997, Prime Minister Tony Blair apologised to the people of Ireland for British actions during the 19th century Potato Famine.

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 01, 2017, 05:49:08 PM
On this day, 1st June 1997, Prime Minister Tony Blair apologised to the people of Ireland for British actions during the 19th century Potato Famine.

And maybe in a 100 years another British P.M.  will be apologising to the Iraqis fir Blair antics

On this day, 7th June 1959, the new cantilevered two tier Hogan Stand was opened as part of the 75th anniversary of the GAA.

(http://i.imgur.com/pDJvrzT.jpg)

On this day, 9th June 1983, Margaret Thatcher's Conservative Party has won a landslide second term election victory, taking 397 seats to Labour's 209.

The Tories achieved 13,012,316 or 42.4% of the votes cast.   

2014: Comedian and actor Rik Mayall, died aged 56.

(http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/PA-1980365.jpg)

On this day in 1988

https://youtu.be/o5RCozoW-bI

Twenty years ago today, Chris Patton handed over the keys of Hong Kong to the Chinese.

On 12th July 1998, Jason, Richard and Mark Quinn, aged 9, 10 and 11, were killed by the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) in a firebomb attack on their home in Ballymoney, County Antrim, Northern Ireland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinn_brothers%27_killings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinn_brothers%27_killings)

On this day, 21 July 1972, the IRA planted 22 bombs in Belfast, killed 9 people, injured 130 more, some badly mutilated. 77 injured were women and children. Chaos was exacerbated by numerous hoax warnings as the bombs exploded in a 75 minute period. IRA blamed security forces for the death toll and claimed is was a commercial target even though carried out on a Friday afternoon.

Follow this link to gain a sense of the horror and carnage.

http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/events/bfriday/nio/nio72.htm (http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/events/bfriday/nio/nio72.htm)

View this recent BBC documentary

https://youtu.be/ZQ62yhhTs6M (https://youtu.be/ZQ62yhhTs6M)


The IRA OC, Brendan Hughes, and later the IRA issued apologies claiming they never intended to kill anyone. Much the same language as the recent self confessed Birmingham bomber.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Friday_(1972)

On this day in 1945 a B-28 bomber crashed into the Empire State building in New York causing $1m worth of damage and killing 14 people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzuXOoyQmlw

On this day, 30th September 1979, how many of you were in Galway to see the Pope?

http://www.rte.ie/archives/2014/0930/648917-young-people-of-ireland-i-love-you/ (http://www.rte.ie/archives/2014/0930/648917-young-people-of-ireland-i-love-you/)

How many of you present in Galway on that day are still active members of the Catholic Church?

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on September 30, 2017, 09:19:17 AM
On this day, 30th September 1979, how many of you were in Galway to see the Pope?

http://www.rte.ie/archives/2014/0930/648917-young-people-of-ireland-i-love-you/ (http://www.rte.ie/archives/2014/0930/648917-young-people-of-ireland-i-love-you/)

How many of you present in Galway on that day are still active members of the Catholic Church?

I was there, so too was my future wife although we weren't going out at the time. We're still reasonably active members of the Church.  Wouldn't go to mass every Sunday but would be there at least once a month.

On this day, 5th October 1968, the Troubles began after a Civil Rights march in Derry was banned by William Craig, home office minister in Stormont, and the marchers were attacked by the RUC.  Although I had just turned 10 at the time, this is a memory that has never left me.

http://www.rte.ie/archives/exhibitions/1031-civil-rights-movement-1968-9/1034-derry-5-october-1968/ (http://www.rte.ie/archives/exhibitions/1031-civil-rights-movement-1968-9/1034-derry-5-october-1968/)

It was 50 years ago today,I attended my first ever big football match live,N Ireland V Scotland in Belfast,with the likes of Pat Jennings and George Best up against a Scotland side containing 4 of Celtic's Lisbon Lions,Denis Law,and Rangers captain John Greig.As you can see I still have the match programme. Can still recall the excitement the night before,we had watched these guys on tv now we were going to see them live.I remember the wee man at the turnstiles at Windsor Park telling my dad to "lift the wee boys over the turnstile" (they didn't charge for children in those days),the excitement when the teams took the pitch,George Best's brilliance as he ran the Scotland team ragged on his own,Ronnie  Simpson,Celtic's goal keeper,winning his third cap at the age of 36,keeping the score down to 1 nil,Scottish supporters,in boisterous but non threatening  form,with parcels  of drink in the front row seats of the Stand,(can you imagine that being allowed nowadays).To cap an amazing day my dad bought me a poster of the Spurs team that had won the FA Cup earlier that year,from a bloke with a makeshift stall outside the ground (there were no club shops or football stores in those days),and
the sheer joy of the train journey home and unable to wait to see the highlights,on black and white TV on Match of the Day later the same night,to see if we could spot ourselves in the crowd on tv! The kids today might have everything,but they'll never have childhood memories like this.

Quote from: T Fearon on October 21, 2017, 09:37:48 AM
It was 50 years ago today,I attended my first ever big football match live,N Ireland V Scotland in Belfast,with the likes of Pat Jennings and George Best up against a Scotland side containing 4 of Celtic's Lisbon Lions,Denis Law,and Rangers captain John Greig.As you can see I still have the match programme. Can still recall the excitement the night before,we had watched these guys on tv now we were going to see them live.I remember the wee man at the turnstiles at Windsor Park telling my dad to "lift the wee boys over the turnstile" (they didn't charge for children in those days),the excitement when the teams took the pitch,George Best's brilliance as he ran the Scotland team ragged on his own,Ronnie  Simpson,Celtic's goal keeper,winning his third cap at the age of 36,keeping the score down to 1 nil,Scottish supporters,in boisterous but non threatening  form,with parcels  of drink in the front row seats of the Stand,(can you imagine that being allowed nowadays).To cap an amazing day my dad bought me a poster of the Spurs team that had won the FA Cup earlier that year,from a bloke with a makeshift stall outside the ground (there were no club shops or football stores in those days),and
the sheer joy of the train journey home and unable to wait to see the highlights,on black and white TV on Match of the Day later the same night,to see if we could spot ourselves in the crowd on tv! The kids today might have everything,but they'll never have childhood memories like this.

Tell the truth. You weren't even there

On this day in 1517, Martin Luther defiantly nailed a copy of his 95 Theses to the door of the Wittenberg Castle church. Allegedly, since there is no record this actually happening.

Quote from: Avondhu star on October 21, 2017, 09:42:31 AM

Quote from: T Fearon on October 21, 2017, 09:37:48 AM
It was 50 years ago today,I attended my first ever big football match live,N Ireland V Scotland in Belfast,with the likes of Pat Jennings and George Best up against a Scotland side containing 4 of Celtic's Lisbon Lions,Denis Law,and Rangers captain John Greig.As you can see I still have the match programme. Can still recall the excitement the night before,we had watched these guys on tv now we were going to see them live.I remember the wee man at the turnstiles at Windsor Park telling my dad to "lift the wee boys over the turnstile" (they didn't charge for children in those days),the excitement when the teams took the pitch,George Best's brilliance as he ran the Scotland team ragged on his own,Ronnie  Simpson,Celtic's goal keeper,winning his third cap at the age of 36,keeping the score down to 1 nil,Scottish supporters,in boisterous but non threatening  form,with parcels  of drink in the front row seats of the Stand,(can you imagine that being allowed nowadays).To cap an amazing day my dad bought me a poster of the Spurs team that had won the FA Cup earlier that year,from a bloke with a makeshift stall outside the ground (there were no club shops or football stores in those days),and
the sheer joy of the train journey home and unable to wait to see the highlights,on black and white TV on Match of the Day later the same night,to see if we could spot ourselves in the crowd on tv! The kids today might have everything,but they'll never have childhood memories like this.

Tell the truth. You weren't even there

Free tickets from the Tele!

Quote from: T Fearon on October 21, 2017, 09:37:48 AM
It was 50 years ago today,I attended my first ever big football match live,N Ireland V Scotland in Belfast,with the likes of Pat Jennings and George Best up against a Scotland side containing 4 of Celtic's Lisbon Lions,Denis Law,and Rangers captain John Greig.As you can see I still have the match programme. Can still recall the excitement the night before,we had watched these guys on tv now we were going to see them live.I remember the wee man at the turnstiles at Windsor Park telling my dad to "lift the wee boys over the turnstile" (they didn't charge for children in those days),the excitement when the teams took the pitch,George Best's brilliance as he ran the Scotland team ragged on his own,Ronnie  Simpson,Celtic's goal keeper,winning his third cap at the age of 36,keeping the score down to 1 nil,Scottish supporters,in boisterous but non threatening  form,with parcels  of drink in the front row seats of the Stand,(can you imagine that being allowed nowadays).To cap an amazing day my dad bought me a poster of the Spurs team that had won the FA Cup earlier that year,from a bloke with a makeshift stall outside the ground (there were no club shops or football stores in those days),and
the sheer joy of the train journey home and unable to wait to see the highlights,on black and white TV on Match of the Day later the same night,to see if we could spot ourselves in the crowd on tv! The kids today might have everything,but they'll never have childhood memories like this.

So you made it to Windsor Park long before you made it to Croke Park.

Quote from: dec on October 31, 2017, 02:13:16 PM

Quote from: T Fearon on October 21, 2017, 09:37:48 AM
It was 50 years ago today,I attended my first ever big football match live,N Ireland V Scotland in Belfast,with the likes of Pat Jennings and George Best up against a Scotland side containing 4 of Celtic's Lisbon Lions,Denis Law,and Rangers captain John Greig.As you can see I still have the match programme. Can still recall the excitement the night before,we had watched these guys on tv now we were going to see them live.I remember the wee man at the turnstiles at Windsor Park telling my dad to "lift the wee boys over the turnstile" (they didn't charge for children in those days),the excitement when the teams took the pitch,George Best's brilliance as he ran the Scotland team ragged on his own,Ronnie  Simpson,Celtic's goal keeper,winning his third cap at the age of 36,keeping the score down to 1 nil,Scottish supporters,in boisterous but non threatening  form,with parcels  of drink in the front row seats of the Stand,(can you imagine that being allowed nowadays).To cap an amazing day my dad bought me a poster of the Spurs team that had won the FA Cup earlier that year,from a bloke with a makeshift stall outside the ground (there were no club shops or football stores in those days),and
the sheer joy of the train journey home and unable to wait to see the highlights,on black and white TV on Match of the Day later the same night,to see if we could spot ourselves in the crowd on tv! The kids today might have everything,but they'll never have childhood memories like this.

So you made it to Windsor Park long before you made it to Croke Park.

They will have different memories and all just as good . But backed up with selfies and video clips. I'm sure they are gutted missing out on the black and white tv footage though. 

500 years ago, Marty Luther went nailing his disaffection for the Catholic church.  See what he started.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41817418

Reformation Day is a Protestant Christian religious holiday celebrated on October 31, alongside All Hallows' Eve (Halloween) during the triduum of Allhallowtide, in remembrance of the onset of the Reformation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformation_Day

Martin Luther and his teachings were adopted by Hitler.  Luther was, like many of his contemporaries in the Catholic Church, were adamantly anti-Semitic teaching that jews should be put into ghettoes, forced to were marking that showed that they are jewish, their synagogues burned down and rabbis stopped from teaching.

On this day, in 1963, Beatlemania came to Dublin
http://www.rte.ie/archives/2013/1107/485151-beatlemania-comes-to-dublin-1963/

On this day, 8th November 1987, the IRA killed 11 innocent civilians attending a remembrance day ceremony in Enniskillen and a 12th person died in 2000 as a result of his injuries never awakening from a coma. 63 people including 13 children were injured by the bomb planted by the IRA.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/events/enniskillen_bombing (http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/events/enniskillen_bombing)

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on November 08, 2017, 04:18:14 PM
On this day, 8th November 1987, the IRA killed 11 innocent civilians attending a remembrance day ceremony in Enniskillen and a 12th person died in 2000 as a result of his injuries never awakening from a coma. 63 people including 13 children were injured by the bomb planted by the IRA.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/events/enniskillen_bombing (http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/events/enniskillen_bombing)

A terrible sectarian attack by so called republicans who did their usual trick of blaming someone else

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on November 08, 2017, 04:18:14 PM
On this day, 8th November 1987, the IRA killed 11 innocent civilians attending a remembrance day ceremony in Enniskillen and a 12th person died in 2000 as a result of his injuries never awakening from a coma. 63 people including 13 children were injured by the bomb planted by the IRA.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/events/enniskillen_bombing (http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/events/enniskillen_bombing)

An awful day in our terrible history.   Today it's reported that the PSNI CC George Hamilton intends to appeal the ruling that the report on the Glenane Gang should be completed without delay.   Every effort is being made by the establishment to hide the truth about the notorious UDR/RUC/UVF murder gang. 

From Stair na hÉireann on facebook.

1847 – Birth in Dublin of Bram Stoker, author of Dracula.

1887 – Birth of Sir Arnold Bax, composer, writer and Hibernophile.

1901 – Death of James Agnew. Born in Ballycastle, Co Antrim, he was an Australian politician, who was Premier of Tasmania from 1886 to 1887.

1920 – An IRA column mounted an ambush at Grange, Co Limerick; four British soldiers were killed when their lorry was fired on. The IRA column under Tómas Malone retreated when seven more British troop lorries arrived.

1921 – Anglo Irish Treaty Negotiations: British Prime Minister Lloyd George suggests the idea of a boundary commission to the Irish delegation to determine the boundary of Northern Ireland.

1922 – Five people are killed in an attack in Dublin. Anti-Treaty IRA fighters attack Wellington Barracks in Dublin. They open fire with machine guns and rifles from across the Grand Canal on National Army troops drilling on the parade square. In the ensuing firefight, one Free Soldier is killed and fourteen wounded, seven of whom require surgery. Two republicans are killed and six captured, along with a machine gun, by Free State reinforcements rushed from Portobello. Two civilians are killed in the crossfire and many wounded. One of the IRA dead, James Spain, is allegedly executed while unarmed after capture.

1922 – One Civil Guard is mortally wounded.

1922 – Anti-Treaty fighters mount an ambush of a Free State cycling patrol near Milltown, Kerry. Two civilians (30-year-old Jeremiah McKenna and his mother) are killed in the firing.

1922 – A Free State soldier, Daniel Dennehy of Cork is shot dead by machine gun fire while guarding a railway near Mallow, Co Cork.

1960 – An Irish peacekeeping force is ambushed in the Congo, causing the first overseas combat deaths of the Irish Republic. Nine are killed by Baluba tribesmen – one of these, Anthony Browne, will be awarded the Military Medal for Gallantry.

1974 – The Protestant Action Group (PAG), which was a covername for the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF), claimed responsibility for the killing of a Catholic in Belfast.

1974 – A member of the IRA was shot dead by the British Army in Belfast.

1979 – Birth of Aaron William Hughes in Cookstown, Co Tyrone. He is an Irish professional footballer who plays for Australian club Melbourne City and the Northern Ireland national team as a defender. Hughes plays mainly at centre back, but can also be used at right back or left back, as well as anywhere in midfield. He is renowned for his disciplined defending, having made over 450 Premier League appearances without getting sent off, which is the second-most in the history of the league, behind only Ryan Giggs.

1984 – Charles Mitchel, RTÉ's first newsreader, reads his last bulletin.

1987 – Eleven people are killed after a bomb explodes during a Remembrance Day service at Enniskillen, Co Fermanagh. A bomb planted by the IRA exploded at the War Memorial killing eleven people and injuring another sixty-three, many seriously. Among the dead were three married couples: Wesley and Bertha Armstrong; Kit and Jessie Johnston; and William and Agnes Mullan. The others killed were: Edward Armstrong, Samuel Gault, John Megaw, Georgina Quinton, and Marie Wilson. One of the injured, Ronnie Hill, went into a coma a few days after the explosion and died thirteen years later on 28 December 2000. Gordon Wilson was injured in the explosion and was with his daughter, Marie, when she died. Gordon Wilson gave a moving account of his daughter's death in media interviews but stated that he forgave her killers. Gordon Wilson's quiet dignity had a profound effect on many people in the north of Ireland. He was later involved with initiatives to improve community relations in Enniskillen and eventually was appointed to Seanad Éireann. Gordon Wilson died on 27 June 1995, aged 68.

1989 – Twenty-eight members of the Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR) were arrested by the RUC as part of the Stevens inquiry into the leaking of security force documents to Loyalist paramilitary groups.

1990 – The Republic elects their first woman president, Mary Robinson, who defeats Brian Lenihan and Austin Curry.

1991 – The Equal Opportunities Unit of the Northern Ireland Civil Service produced a report containing information on the religious composition of the Civil Service. The report showed that 57 per cent of civil servants were Protestant, 36 per cent Catholic, and the rest were born outside Northern Ireland. The report also indicated that 21 per cent of senior posts were held by Catholics.

1995 – The act of parliament which returned remission of sentence for paramilitary prisoners from 33 per cent to 50 per cent became law. Following the change in the law 83 prisoners were released on 17 November 1995. The new rules did not apply to life sentences.

1996 – In a statement issued from Dublin, the IRA admitted responsibility for the bombs in Lisburn, Co Antrim, on 7 October 1996.

1998 – A well-placed loyalist source claims that a renegade loyalist terror group, is plotting to target Government Ministers here and launch cross-border bombing raids in the run up to Christmas.

1998 – The Provisional IRA announces that it will decommission large amounts of Semtex to allow Sinn Féin to take its seats in the new Northern Executive.

1998 – Flights at Shannon Airport are brought to a standstill for several hours after a Boeing 767 jet, with 250 passengers and 11 crew aboard, leaves the runway and becomes stuck in soft ground shortly after landing.

1998 – President Mary McAleese says it is time to acknowledge that the 50,000 Irishmen killed in the Great War came from all parts of the country and from both sides of the political divide.

1998 – Finance Minister Charlie McCreevy declares war on farmers, telling them that he is not responsible for their problems.

1999 – Northern Ireland Secretary, Peter Mandelson comes under fire as talks on the peace process enter another crucial phase.

1999 – Relatives of Tom Williams announced that his remains would be buried in the family grave in Milltown Cemetary, Belfast, rather than in the Republican plot in the same cemetery. His remains had been exhumed from Crumlin Road Prison on 21 August 1999. He had been hanged in the prison in 1942.

2001 – An EU survey shows dancing is the favourite pastime of young Irish people.

2001 – Senior IRA leaders meet in Co Louth to discuss further arms decommissioning.

2001 – In a meeting at the White House, Taoiseach Bertie Ahern assures President Bush he will do everything possible to ensure Ireland's international banking services are not used to fund Osama Bin Laden and his followers.

2001 – The Poulnabrone portal dolmen in the Burren, Co Clare is bought for £300,000 by the State to protect it from vandalism.

2002 – Mail in rural areas is delivered despite industrial action by the Irish Postmasters' Union which closes sorting facilities at over 500 sub post offices.

On this day, 8 November 1939, Johann Georg Elser carried out an elaborate assassination attempt on Adolf Hitler and other high-ranking Nazi leaders at the Bürgerbräukeller in Munich. He used a 6 day timer and hid a bomb in a column to kill not only Adolf but also the other leading Nazis. His plan went wrong because of fog at the airport, which caused Hitler to travel by train and leave early as a consequence, so the bomb missed him by 10 minutes. History might have been different if this change had not occurred.

Stair na hÉireann again

1711 – The first Irish parliament of Queen Anne is dissolved.

1791 – Napper Tandy convenes the first meeting of Dublin's United Irishmen.

1875 – Birth of Sir Hugh Percy Lane. He is best known for establishing Dublin's Municipal Gallery of Modern Art (the first known public gallery of modern art in the world) and for his remarkable contribution to the visual arts in Ireland. He died on board the RMS Lusitania.

1893 – Birth of Liam Lynch. He was an officer in the Irish Republican Army during the Irish War of Independence and the commanding general of the Anti-Treaty Irish Republican Army during the Irish Civil War.

1919 – James Larkin is arrested in New York.

1922 – Anti-Treaty fighters in Dublin attack Portobello barracks. One Anti-Treaty fighter is killed.

1922 – William Ahearne shot as an alleged spy by the Anti-Treaty IRA and dumped in Bishopstown, Cork.

1922 – A Free State sergeant is accidentally shot by a sentry in Cahersiveen, Kerry.

1922 – There are simultaneous night attacks on Wellington and Portobello barracks in Dubin by Anti-Treaty fighters. In 20 minutes of firing, one Free State soldier is hit in the head. Two civilians are found shot dead in Rathmines, near Portobello – it is presumed killed in the crossfire.

1926 – Birth in Dublin of Hugh Leonard, pseudonym of John Keyes Byrne, playwright.

1935 – Nineteen Donegal islanders are drowned when their currach founders.

1957 – Death of Peter O'Connor. He was an Irish athlete who set a long-standing world record for the long jump and won two Olympic medals in the 1906 Games.

1960 – Robert McNamara is named president of Ford Motor Co., the first non-Ford to serve in that post. A month later, he quit to join the newly-elected John F. Kennedy administration.

1960 – John Fitzgerald Kennedy elected President of the United States of America.

1966 – Jack Lynch becomes leader of Fianna Fáil.

1968 – Ian Paisley and Ronald Bunting led a Loyalist march to the Diamond area of Derry.

1974 – There were a number of attacks by Loyalist paramilitaries on Catholic civilians. Two Catholic civilians were shot dead at their workplace near Templepatrick, Co Antrim, by the Protestant Action Group (PAG), which was a covername for the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF). In addition Billy Hull, a former leader of the Loyalist Association of Workers (LAW), and Jim Anderson, a former Ulster Defence Association (UDA) leader, were shot and wounded in attacks by Loyalist paramilitaries.

1974 – The Ministry of Defence in London stated that the names of British soldiers killed during the conflict in Northern Ireland would not be added to war memorials. The reason given was that the conflict in Northern Ireland was not classified as a war.

1981 – During a speech in the House of Commons British Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher, said that: "Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom; as much as my constituency is." This statement was subsequently often quoted as: "Northern Ireland is as British as Finchley".

1982 – Garry Ewing (31), an RUC officer, and Helen Woodhouse (29), a Protestant civilian, were killed by a booby trap bomb attached to Ewing's car by the IRA at the Lakeland Forum Leisure Centre in Enniskillen, Co Fermanagh.

1996 – Loyalists, who were involved in a weekly picket of the Catholic church in Harryville in Ballymena, injured a six-year old Catholic boy when they threw stones at those leaving the service.

1997 – The body of Raymond McCord (22), a Protestant civilian, was discovered at Ballyduff quarry, near Belfast. Loyalist paramilitaries were responsible for the killing. Raymond McCord (senior) led a high-profile campaign to uncover the circumstances of his son's killing. The matter was investigated by the Police Ombudsman who issued a statement and report on 22 January 2007.

1997 – During a radio interview on the tenth anniversary of the Enniskillen bomb which killed 11 people on 8 November 1987, President of Sinn Féin, Gerry Adams, said he was "deeply sorry about what happened".

1999 – A pipe-bomb with a jar of nails attached to it was discovered on the windowsill of a house in Dromara Street, off the mainly Nationalist lower Ormeau Road in south Belfast. One woman was in the house at the time. The device was later made safe by an Army bomb disposal team. The attack was carried out by Loyalist paramilitaries.

1999 – Ireland's most accomplished mountaineer, Pat Falvey, conquers Ama Dablam in the Himalayas.

2000 – The largest prison outside Dublin, the Midlands Prison in Portlaoise, goes into operation. It was built at a cost of £43m and boasts the most advanced technology and the highest standards of prisoner accommodation in the State.

2000 – Martin McGuinness accuses David Trimble and Ulster Unionist cabinet colleagues of jeopardising the Good Friday Agreement's political institutions with their ban in a bid to force progress on IRA disarmament.

2014 – Death of Fianna Fáil politician, Joe Walsh. Born in Ballineen, Co Cork, he was a Teachta Dála (TD) for Cork South–West and was first elected as a TD at the 1977 general election. He lost his seat in 1981 but regained it again in 1982 and served as a TD until retiring at the 2007 general election. He served as Minister for Agriculture and Food on two occasions (1992–1994 and 1997–2004).

On this day in 2006, I signed in as Farrandeelin as the first time here. Where have those 11 years gone?

Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 13, 2017, 09:48:21 AM
On this day in 2006, I signed in as Farrandeelin as the first time here. Where have those 11 years gone?

Medication can have that effect

Quote from: Avondhu star on November 13, 2017, 01:37:54 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 13, 2017, 09:48:21 AM
On this day in 2006, I signed in as Farrandeelin as the first time here. Where have those 11 years gone?

Medication can have that effect

Must be it.

In 1992, Neil Papworth, a 22-year-old software programmer, sent the first ever SMS from a computer to his colleague Richard Jarvis at Vodafone.  That very first text message, sent on the 3rd December 1992, simply said " MERRY CHRISTMAS ".

gr8 txt!

On this day, 9th December 1973, the Sunningdale Agreement was signed to create the first power sharing government for N.Ireland:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunningdale_Agreement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunningdale_Agreement)

In the words of Seamus Mallon, the 1998 Good Friday Agreement was the Sunningdale Agreement for the slow learners. We endured 25 more years of murder and mayhem for nothing more than was available in December 1973.  We were let down by the British and the government in the south in pushing through with the new institutions.  The British failed to face down the loyalist opposition.

On this day, 9th December 1968, shortly after "the Troubles" had begun, the Prime Minister of N.Ireland Terence O'Neill made a plea to the people on TV to come to their senses often referred to as the "Ulster at the Crossroads" speech. 

O'Neill had been under major pressure from Paisley and hardline unionists for his attempts to strike a more moderate stance in the light of the civil rights marches. Like many after him in the Unionist Party he failed only for Paisley on 8 May 2007 to take virtually the same position of leadership but having made concessions that even the moderate O'Neill would have been appalled by.

https://youtu.be/aVAqAsAUxmY

On this day in 1957, the plane carrying the Man U team crashed at Munich
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/06/old-trafford-ceremony-remembers-munich-air-disaster-60-years-on

Nice interview on RTÉ radio on Sunday Harry Gregg.

40 years ago (1978) on this day, 17th February, the IRA killed 12 members of the Irish Collie Club and the Northern Ireland Junior Motor Cycle Club and injured another 30 using a fire bomb which incinerated them as they attended dinner dances in the La Mon House hotel.

One of the most heart breaking incidents in the troubles.Especially poignant was the tale of two young sisters,aged 14 and 13,who lost both of their parents at La Mon,but got away from here in their late teens to forge great careers and lives for themselves just to honour their parents.

Quote from: T Fearon on February 17, 2018, 10:14:05 PM
One of the most heart breaking incidents in the troubles.Especially poignant was the tale of two young sisters,aged 14 and 13,who lost both of their parents at La Mon,but got away from here in their late teens to forge great careers and lives for themselves just to honour their parents.

No more than Birmingham Guidford Dublin Monaghan Claudy a terrible waste of human life but there will be dirtbirds from all sides who will come on here to justify those terrible atrocities in the name of republicanism loyalism or imperialism

I know and agree with you.But was there another atrocity where two young children lost both parents simultaneously.I am not saying the actual deed was worse than any of the ones you alluded to,but I only became aware of these two ladies and their loss of both parents when they had just entered their teens,at La Mon,a couple of years ago

Wasn't there an entire family blown to pieces in Dublin 1974 by MI5/6/ Jackal?
You left out Bloody Sunday in Derry Avondhu.

Today marks 170 years since the tricolour was first flown publicly.

Irish patriot Thomas Francis Meagher raised what would later become the national flag at the Wolfe Tone Confederate Club at 33 The Mall in Waterford city in 1848.

Quote from: armaghniac on March 07, 2018, 11:10:25 PM
Today marks 170 years since the tricolour was first flown publicly.

Irish patriot Thomas Francis Meagher raised what would later become the national flag at the Wolfe Tone Confederate Club at 33 The Mall in Waterford city in 1848.

So was that a "makey-up" flag back in 1848?

Quote from: armaghniac on March 07, 2018, 11:10:25 PM
Today marks 170 years since the tricolour was first flown publicly.

Irish patriot Thomas Francis Meagher raised what would later become the national flag at the Wolfe Tone Confederate Club at 33 The Mall in Waterford city in 1848.

It''s ironic that the Republic is the entity with orange in its flag.

30 years ago today...
https://youtu.be/oJyo1nQU9oE

Quote from: laoislad on June 12, 2018, 11:22:04 AM
30 years ago today...
https://youtu.be/oJyo1nQU9oE

Remember it well, watched it in Roman Way Kilburn....whole place erupted 😂
Went to work next day and manager was still pissed....he had backed Houghton to score first and the win....sent me off at 9am to buy two cases of champagne 😎...everyone in office poleaxed except me😩

On this day, 50 years ago Ulster was at a crossroads
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0605nyj

On this day 35 years ago one of Ireland's greatest musicians, Luke Kelly, passed away.

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2019/0130/1026414-luke-kelly-statues/

As did great film music composer John Barry in 2011. 

On this day 100 years ago the British mowed down hundreds of men, women and children in Amritsar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/12/britain-amritsar-massacre-centenary-1919-india

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This day, 1994, an icon of sport was taken. Still seems like yesterday.

Quote from: mouview on May 01, 2019, 10:13:50 AM
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This day, 1994, an icon of sport was taken. Still seems like yesterday.

https://mobile.twitter.com/brutofficiel/status/1123478659090698240

22 years ago today, Dermot Morgan died.

4 years ago today, Frank Kelly died.

Quote from: BennyCake on February 28, 2020, 10:21:10 AM
22 years ago today, Dermot Morgan died.

4 years ago today, Frank Kelly died.

How is that 22 years ago!!

Quote from: armaghniac on April 13, 2019, 04:56:45 PM
On this day 100 years ago the British mowed down hundreds of men, women and children in Amritsar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/12/britain-amritsar-massacre-centenary-1919-india

Oveseen and apparently directed by the son of a Tipperary farmer, who was assassinated for it in 1940. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_O%27Dwyer

25 years ago... 21 April 1995, the first episode of Father Ted was aired.

Quote from: BennyCake on April 21, 2020, 09:24:29 AM
25 years ago... 21 April 1995, the first episode of Father Ted was aired.

Maybe the most over-praised and over-discussed British comedy series ever.

Quote from: mouview on April 21, 2020, 10:58:01 AM

Quote from: BennyCake on April 21, 2020, 09:24:29 AM
25 years ago... 21 April 1995, the first episode of Father Ted was aired.

Maybe the most over-praised and over-discussed British comedy series ever.

Either that or Mrs Brown. Another pile of steaming shite

Quote from: Taylor on April 21, 2020, 11:07:07 AM

Quote from: mouview on April 21, 2020, 10:58:01 AM

Quote from: BennyCake on April 21, 2020, 09:24:29 AM
25 years ago... 21 April 1995, the first episode of Father Ted was aired.

Maybe the most over-praised and over-discussed British comedy series ever.

Either that or Mrs Brown. Another pile of steaming shite

Yes, Mrs Brown is a pile of shite, but Ted is genius.

Slightly late....but seen this was the 10 years since Deepwater Horizon exploded in Gulf of Mexco last night

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon

Quote from: mouview on April 21, 2020, 10:58:01 AM

Quote from: BennyCake on April 21, 2020, 09:24:29 AM
25 years ago... 21 April 1995, the first episode of Father Ted was aired.

Maybe the most over-praised and over-discussed British comedy series ever.

People who thought Fr. Ted was the best out funniest TV show ever were ones to be avoided. It certainly had its moments and resonates with Irish Catholics but it's not a patch on some of the top sitcoms of the era.

I remember a friend in college trying to explain to me how Fr. Ted was funnier, smarter and better written than Frasier. How I laughed.

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25 years ago... 21 April 1995, the first episode of Father Ted was aired.

Maybe the most over-praised and over-discussed British comedy series ever.

People who thought Fr. Ted was the best out funniest TV show ever were ones to be avoided. It certainly had its moments and resonates with Irish Catholics but it's not a patch on some of the top sitcoms of the era.

I remember a friend in college trying to explain to me how Fr. Ted was funnier, smarter and better written than Frasier. How I laughed.

Frasier was and is gold.

Never seen more than about 10 seconds of Frasier, so I can't comment.

Father ted is brilliant. Frasier is brilliant. Mrs Browns boys is garbage. It's always sunny in Philadelphia however is in a league of its own hands down the best sitcom ever made.

Always found Fr. Ted rather broad and obvious, bit of a one-joke series really.

Underrated would have to be the superbly-written 'Fall and Rise Of Reginald Perrin'. See job interview scene;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7w5S3Saqog

"Have you ever been 'inside'?"    :D

25 years since the Srebrenica massacre (https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2020/0709/1152418-srebrenica-anniversary/)

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25 years since the Srebrenica massacre (https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2020/0709/1152418-srebrenica-anniversary/)

The real.winner of the war was Western Europe. Arms and cheap labour afterwards

Galway liberated from Indians.

On this day, on 25 November 1963, JFK was buried. RTÉ carried the funeral on satellite (https://www.rte.ie/archives/2013/1125/488911-president-kennedys-funeral/), which was a first, and it narrated by Michael O'Hehir, familiar to GAA fans, as he had happened to be in the US. 24 Irish Army cadets formed a guard of honour at the funeral at the request of Jacqueline Kennedy.

On this day, 50 years ago we had the introduction of the decimal money and the thruppeny bit and six pence passed into history.

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On this day, 50 years ago we had the introduction of the decimal money and the thruppeny bit and six pence passed into history.

My own father was still thinking and talking in shillings a couple of decades after.

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On this day, 50 years ago we had the introduction of the decimal money and the thruppeny bit and six pence passed into history.

My own father was still thinking and talking in shillings a couple of decades after.

Your own father?

Half the young ones nowadays wouldn't know how many Euros were in a Guinea.

On this date 26 years ago,  the Lansdowne Road riot by  English racists

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probably the only time I was empowered by the sight of an Gardai getting stuck in at a 'protest'.

(https://www.irishexaminer.com/cms_media/module_img/2651/1325870_1_articlelarge_ie-334727_c4e1cc94e7e14aecb19b2c1c22b69864.jpg)

Was quite the night to be low down on the left on the Lansdowne Road end terrace

Le Mon Bombing 1978.

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On this date 26 years ago,  the Lansdowne Road riot by  English racists

(https://img.rasset.ie/000a28b1-622.jpg)

probably the only time I was empowered by the sight of an Gardai getting stuck in at a 'protest'.

(https://www.irishexaminer.com/cms_media/module_img/2651/1325870_1_articlelarge_ie-334727_c4e1cc94e7e14aecb19b2c1c22b69864.jpg)

There was an exiled Armagh man who was living in London at the time and had gotten tickets there stuck in amongst that.

33 years ago British state forces shot Aidan McAnespie dead at a checkpoint, he was unarmed and shot in the back.

The soldier in question has never been convicted.

The Free State government have actively tried go thwart the McAnespie family in their bid for justice by refusing to allow an independent Garda report to be released to the family. The McAnespie family have pleaded with various free state ministers for justice to intervene but the Free State govt have made it their priority not to assist the McAnespie family.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/two-ira-gang-members-who-fled-need-to-face-justice-for-what-they-did-says-widow-of-slain-garda-jerry-mccabe-40511507.html

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https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/two-ira-gang-members-who-fled-need-to-face-justice-for-what-they-did-says-widow-of-slain-garda-jerry-mccabe-40511507.html

How would a SF Taoiseach react to these types of anniversaries, commemorations and events?

On this day in 1969 MLB legend Mickey Mantle gives his farewell retirement speech during "Mickey Mantle Day" at Yankee Stadium, 60,096 see #7 retired

On this day (June 8th):

1982...Up to 50 British servicemen are killed in an Argentine air attack on two supply ships in the Falklands.
1999: Ex-cabinet minister Jonathan Aitken (UK) is jailed for 18 months after admitting he lied during a libel action.
2002: Serena Williams defeated her sister Venus Williams to win her first French Open tennis title.

On this day in 1975 the Miami showband were massacred at a false checkpoint south of Loughbrickland.
https://youtu.be/XRnKGMCURVA

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On this day in 1975 the Miami showband were massacred at a false checkpoint south of Loughbrickland.
https://youtu.be/XRnKGMCURVA

Fair play to Stephen Travers. He doesn't continually play the victim or make it all about himself.

In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

Quote from: BennyCake on September 01, 2021, 11:43:16 PM
In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

I was there, 20 years is scary indeed. One of the great days in Irish sport though.

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In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

2nd half shown on the big screen at Slane...brilliant. McAteer's goal replayed again and again.

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In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

2nd half shown on the big screen at Slane...brilliant. McAteer's goal replayed again and again.

is that the game Keane hammered somebody right at the beginning? Mind the goal well

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In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

2nd half shown on the big screen at Slane...brilliant. McAteer's goal replayed again and again.

is that the game Keane hammered somebody right at the beginning? Mind the goal well

Keane took Overmars out first tackle. Kluivert put up a token effort of protest without wanting to get involved with Keane. 

https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20 (https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20)

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In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

2nd half shown on the big screen at Slane...brilliant. McAteer's goal replayed again and again.

is that the game Keane hammered somebody right at the beginning? Mind the goal well

Keane took Overmars out first tackle. Kluivert put up a token effort of protest without wanting to get involved with Keane. 

https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20 (https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20)

The tackle has been mythologised I'm Irish sporting history as some sort of Titanic event where Keane took out their most dangerous player. In reality, Overmars was done and had a great game.

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Quote from: BennyCake on September 01, 2021, 11:43:16 PM
In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

2nd half shown on the big screen at Slane...brilliant. McAteer's goal replayed again and again.

is that the game Keane hammered somebody right at the beginning? Mind the goal well

Keane took Overmars out first tackle. Kluivert put up a token effort of protest without wanting to get involved with Keane. 

https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20 (https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20)

The tackle has been mythologised I'm Irish sporting history as some sort of Titanic event where Keane took out their most dangerous player. In reality, Overmars was done and had a great game.

The whole Jack Charlton era has been mythologised worse IMO, whereas Big Mick's achievements in 2002 were just as laudable.

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In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

2nd half shown on the big screen at Slane...brilliant. McAteer's goal replayed again and again.

is that the game Keane hammered somebody right at the beginning? Mind the goal well

Keane took Overmars out first tackle. Kluivert put up a token effort of protest without wanting to get involved with Keane. 

https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20 (https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20)

The tackle has been mythologised I'm Irish sporting history as some sort of Titanic event where Keane took out their most dangerous player. In reality, Overmars was done and had a great game.

The whole Jack Charlton era has been mythologised worse IMO, whereas Big Mick's achievements in 2002 were just as laudable.

Your toot! Italia 90 will never be repeated... What a time to be alive.

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In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

2nd half shown on the big screen at Slane...brilliant. McAteer's goal replayed again and again.

is that the game Keane hammered somebody right at the beginning? Mind the goal well

Keane took Overmars out first tackle. Kluivert put up a token effort of protest without wanting to get involved with Keane. 

https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20 (https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20)

The tackle has been mythologised I'm Irish sporting history as some sort of Titanic event where Keane took out their most dangerous player. In reality, Overmars was done and had a great game.

The whole Jack Charlton era has been mythologised worse IMO, whereas Big Mick's achievements in 2002 were just as laudable.

Your toot! Italia 90 will never be repeated... What a time to be alive.

Meh, if you need a soccer team whose performances were modest in the extreme to get excited about, imagine what an All Ireland win would do! Whole country got completely carried away over very little. Aldridge kicking Hagi and injuring himself summed it up a bit.

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In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

2nd half shown on the big screen at Slane...brilliant. McAteer's goal replayed again and again.

is that the game Keane hammered somebody right at the beginning? Mind the goal well

Keane took Overmars out first tackle. Kluivert put up a token effort of protest without wanting to get involved with Keane. 

https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20 (https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20)

The tackle has been mythologised I'm Irish sporting history as some sort of Titanic event where Keane took out their most dangerous player. In reality, Overmars was done and had a great game.

The whole Jack Charlton era has been mythologised worse IMO, whereas Big Mick's achievements in 2002 were just as laudable.

Your toot! Italia 90 will never be repeated... What a time to be alive.

Happy happy times

Will be a long time before Italia '90 is bettered, especially from an Irish perspective ... making the last 8 against the hosts in the Olympic Stadium in Rome, the soundtrack to the tournament was the three best tenor's the world has seen, the craic around the whole tournament ... as was said, a great time to be alive!

Quote from: balladmaker on September 02, 2021, 10:58:04 PM
Will be a long time before Italia '90 is bettered, especially from an Irish perspective ... making the last 8 against the hosts in the Olympic Stadium in Rome, the soundtrack to the tournament was the three best tenor's the world has seen, the craic around the whole tournament ... as was said, a great time to be alive!

agreed

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In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

2nd half shown on the big screen at Slane...brilliant. McAteer's goal replayed again and again.

is that the game Keane hammered somebody right at the beginning? Mind the goal well

Keane took Overmars out first tackle. Kluivert put up a token effort of protest without wanting to get involved with Keane. 

https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20 (https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20)

Overmars deserved it because he was a wee diving p***k

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Quote from: BennyCake on September 01, 2021, 11:43:16 PM
In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

2nd half shown on the big screen at Slane...brilliant. McAteer's goal replayed again and again.

is that the game Keane hammered somebody right at the beginning? Mind the goal well

Keane took Overmars out first tackle. Kluivert put up a token effort of protest without wanting to get involved with Keane. 

https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20 (https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20)

Overmars deserved it because he was a wee diving p***k

He dived to get Gary Kelly his first yellow but Gary fairly clipped his ankles to earn his 2nd yellow, still Overmars made some hay despite being half crippled until Van Gaal decided to go long ball, substituting his 2 out and out wingers with 2 strikers,  an astonishing managerial faux pas.

https://www.facebook.com/734989616564617/posts/4521909731205901/?d=n

On this day, 16 September 1961, the remnants of Hurricane Debbie rearranged Ireland.

Woods were flattened and thousands of acres of crops destroyed. One third of the country's crop of wheat and oats was ruined and some crops up to ten miles inland were destroyed by sea spray. Ships were torn off their moorings, dozens of small boats sank along the coast and in marinas, and storm surges triggered coastal flooding. The winds also drove the Shannon to flow backwards and rise 4ft.

Twelve people were killed in the Republic, a further six in Northern Ireland and hundreds more were treated in hospital for injuries caused by flying debris and falling trees. In an extraordinarily close escape, a two-year-old girl in Shanmaghery, Co Tyrone, was hurled into the air and found 24 hours later unharmed in a nearby field

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On this day, 16 September 1961, the remnants of Hurricane Debbie rearranged Ireland.

Woods were flattened and thousands of acres of crops destroyed. One third of the country's crop of wheat and oats was ruined and some crops up to ten miles inland were destroyed by sea spray. Ships were torn off their moorings, dozens of small boats sank along the coast and in marinas, and storm surges triggered coastal flooding. The winds also drove the Shannon to flow backwards and rise 4ft.

Twelve people were killed in the Republic, a further six in Northern Ireland and hundreds more were treated in hospital for injuries caused by flying debris and falling trees. In an extraordinarily close escape, a two-year-old girl in Shanmaghery, Co Tyrone, was hurled into the air and found 24 hours later unharmed in a nearby field

Parents / older generation frequently mentioned Debbie and the havoc it wreaked. Stone walls being knocked, roofs blown away. A neighbour had to tie a shed roof of ours to a trailer with wire to help secure it. One of these epochal moments for those that experienced it.

My auld fella used to talk about it a lot. Did massive damage in our part of Donegal, both structurally with buildings and bridges, and just simply blowing shit away. As was normal at the time, hay was stored in the fields in haystacks and stood no chance.

A few hours late... but yesterday (16 September) in 1977 Marc Bolan was killed in a car crash, aged only 29.

44 years ago. Mad.

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In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

2nd half shown on the big screen at Slane...brilliant. McAteer's goal replayed again and again.

is that the game Keane hammered somebody right at the beginning? Mind the goal well

Keane took Overmars out first tackle. Kluivert put up a token effort of protest without wanting to get involved with Keane. 

https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20 (https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20)

The tackle has been mythologised I'm Irish sporting history as some sort of Titanic event where Keane took out their most dangerous player. In reality, Overmars was done and had a great game.

The whole Jack Charlton era has been mythologised worse IMO, whereas Big Mick's achievements in 2002 were just as laudable.

Your toot! Italia 90 will never be repeated... What a time to be alive.

Happy happy times

They were, but doesn't take away from the fact the football wasn't exactly exciting and we'd draw a hell of a lot of games to get to that quarterfinal IIRC.

First ever world cup. None of us had ever seen the like before though were mostly kids I guess.

Then went to a tournament 22 years later and took at least a fortnight to recover from the booze lol.

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 17, 2021, 04:41:55 PM
First ever world cup. None of us had ever seen the like before though were mostly kids I guess.

Then went to a tournament 22 years later and took at least a fortnight to recover from the booze lol.

Yep and Italian league very strong at that time, you got to see players for the first time you normally wouldn't have

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Quote from: BennyCake on September 01, 2021, 11:43:16 PM
In 2001, Ireland  beat Netherlands 1-0. Jason McAteer scoring the winner.

20 feckin' years! Scary.

2nd half shown on the big screen at Slane...brilliant. McAteer's goal replayed again and again.

is that the game Keane hammered somebody right at the beginning? Mind the goal well

Keane took Overmars out first tackle. Kluivert put up a token effort of protest without wanting to get involved with Keane. 

https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20 (https://twitter.com/DonalCuddy/status/1268643345338900481?s=20)

The tackle has been mythologised I'm Irish sporting history as some sort of Titanic event where Keane took out their most dangerous player. In reality, Overmars was done and had a great game.

The whole Jack Charlton era has been mythologised worse IMO, whereas Big Mick's achievements in 2002 were just as laudable.

Your toot! Italia 90 will never be repeated... What a time to be alive.

Happy happy times

They were, but doesn't take away from the fact the football wasn't exactly exciting and we'd draw a hell of a lot of games to get to that quarterfinal IIRC.

When a national team gets to a WC finals for the first time  do the football fans actually sit down to savor the quality of their football or do the results trump all by factor x. The first is don't get beat and definitely not by Engerland, the second is to get through the group which also had the Dutch, the rest is bonus. The last 16 game was played in the afternoon's scorching heat.
In the QFs  Ireland went toe for toe v Italy, played with adventure and panache, it was just the finish from Schillaci which separated the two teams. In that cauldron, the first half was Ireland's, until the goal the home support had been silenced.
The ref gave nothing to McCarthy, every time he defended the ball against Schillaci  he blew for a foul.

Italia 90 was the nail in the coffin for defensive negativity, the goalie being allowed to pick up the back pass.

19 years ago.

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What a day!

As someone said, first AI winning captain to begin his speech with "Move back, move back."

Can you see me?

Quote from: armaghniac on September 22, 2021, 11:32:03 PM
Can you see me?

Kieran? That you?

Quote from: mouview on September 22, 2021, 08:42:08 PM
As someone said, first AI winning captain to begin his speech with "Move back, move back."

Addressing the bishop is obviously more important than fans being crushed then?

On this day, 101 years ago, Bloody Sunday in Croke Park
https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1594710978469339136

Also on this day, a zillion years ago, Tony Fearon was born.

Quote from: Orior on November 21, 2022, 04:04:23 PM
Also on this day, a zillion years ago, Tony Fearon was born.

We have to keep his memory alive. Younger posters may not even know who he is

Quote from: Orior on November 21, 2022, 04:04:23 PM
Also on this day, a zillion years ago, Tony Fearon was born.

He'd have loved Qatar, wasn't a big fan of Gay people.

Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2022, 05:11:11 PM

Quote from: Orior on November 21, 2022, 04:04:23 PM
Also on this day, a zillion years ago, Tony Fearon was born.

We have to keep his memory alive. Younger posters may not even know who he is

Ignorance is bliss!!!

https://twitter.com/TonyFearon/status/1594767898320506880?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (https://twitter.com/TonyFearon/status/1594767898320506880?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)

He did have this to say about the choice of anthems

Freestate is 100 years old
https://twitter.com/handyman1543/status/1600086392003997696

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-63868297

Imagine having to tell a young girl she was dying

 :(

That's rough.

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 06, 2022, 02:35:34 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-63868297

Imagine having to tell a young girl she was dying

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/prison-wedding-bridges-sectarian-divide-1499862.html

Another for the WTF thread

This day 2 years ago the covid All-Ireland football final played behind closed doors. Dean Rock goal after 12 seconds set the Dubs on their way to another title.

1937 New Constitution came into effect in the 26 Counties.
This ABOLISHED THE IRISH FREE STATE ;)

Quote from: Rossfan on December 29, 2022, 11:46:52 AM
1937 New Constitution came into effect in the 26 Counties.
This ABOLISHED THE IRISH FREE STATE ;)

It's fine, we'll still call ya free staters!

Ah well.... at least ye're only 85 years behind the times, 247 years more up to date than  "Themmuns" .

Quote from: Rossfan on December 29, 2022, 01:50:57 PM
Ah well.... at least ye're only 85 years behind the times, 247 years more up to date than  "Themmuns" .

Just think if you'd have rejected it we'd all be United a hell of a lot sooner... ah well

How in the name of  jases did you come up with that conclusion?

28 years ago

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Love the trench coat guy looking on  ;D

Frank Kelly  died 7 years ago today

And Dermot Morgan died 25 years  ago today.

25 years!!  Friggin hell where  does the time go??

On this day, Cork took the train instead of the extra time
https://www.rte.ie/archives/2015/0423/696114-cork/

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2023, 08:58:20 PM
Love the trench coat guy looking on  ;D

LOL.

An interesting spectator was the PSNI Chief Constable Matt Baggott, behind the bloke holding the white bag

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On May 3, 1979, Conservative Party leader Margaret Thatcher was chosen to become Britain's first female prime minister.
This led to some interesting times

35 years ago.

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Marathon became Snickers.

Quote from: AustinPowers on July 19, 2023, 09:50:18 AM
Marathon became Snickers.

Galway liberated from the Indians

I meant to post  this yesterday

50 years ago,  20 July 1973 , Bruce Lee died aged only 32.

Apollo 11 moon landing 54 years yesterday

Quote from: J70 on July 21, 2023, 04:21:50 PM
Apollo 11 moon landing 54 years yesterday

Incredible achievement using maths and very basic technology.

Quote from: J70 on July 21, 2023, 04:21:50 PM
Apollo 11 moon landing 54 years yesterday

Or on this day 54 years ago the biggest con ever staged happened.  :)

Quote from: pbat on July 21, 2023, 06:46:23 PM

Quote from: J70 on July 21, 2023, 04:21:50 PM
Apollo 11 moon landing 54 years yesterday

Or on this day 54 years ago the biggest con ever staged happened.  :)

It's one of those conspiracies that I couldn't care less if they actually went to the moon or not.

It's always hard to tell if the moon landing conspiracy theorists are joking or serious.

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on July 22, 2023, 12:32:57 AM
It's always hard to tell if the moon landing conspiracy theorists are joking or serious.

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Quote from: Eamonnca1 on July 22, 2023, 12:32:57 AM
It's always hard to tell if the moon landing conspiracy theorists are joking or serious.

It's up there with flat earth.
Some people are very serious about it.

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on July 22, 2023, 12:32:57 AM
It's always hard to tell if the moon landing conspiracy theorists are joking or serious.

If serious, they're morons.

I suspect most are just on the wind up.

Well, if  the last few  years have taught us anything , it's this.... question everything

And stock up on tin foil hats....

While I don't hold up with any of these conspiracy theories I do find it a bit strange that it's now taking them so long to go back. I think the current programme has a timeline of 2026. Surely they could have just dusted down Apollo 11 and used it in the meantime

Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 22, 2023, 03:11:37 PM
While I don't hold up with any of these conspiracy theories I do find it a bit strange that it's now taking them so long to go back. I think the current programme has a timeline of 2026. Surely they could have just dusted down Apollo 11 and used it in the meantime

They have "forgotton" all the technology and recorded over the original footage and flight data

Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 22, 2023, 03:11:37 PM
While I don't hold up with any of these conspiracy theories I do find it a bit strange that it's now taking them so long to go back. I think the current programme has a timeline of 2026. Surely they could have just dusted down Apollo 11 and used it in the meantime

The cost ! It would be in terms of todays cost $257 billion dollars! Madness and for what? There's nowt on it

In addition to the cost, there's the "why?".

When Kennedy announced it, it was about mobilizing the US against the Soviets, especially with the shock of Sputnik still so raw.

It was geopolitics first, science a distant second. It was a race to be first on the moon, nothing beyond that mattered. Once that was achieved, interest faded as there wasn't much to rouse public support at that point.

Plus, the US was a much different society then.

Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 22, 2023, 03:11:37 PM
While I don't hold up with any of these conspiracy theories I do find it a bit strange that it's now taking them so long to go back. I think the current programme has a timeline of 2026. Surely they could have just dusted down Apollo 11 and used it in the meantime

Yeah that's true. I remember it was about  2007/8 when China said they would get there in 10 years. Afaik I haven't heard of them getting  there yet  , yet that's 15 or 16  years later.  JFK said in about 62 that America  would do it by the end of the  60's. That's only    7 years with the technology available then . Yet 60 odd years later , and China haven't managed  it in  15 years?  :o

Quote from: J70 on July 22, 2023, 04:35:56 PM
In addition to the cost, there's the "why?".

When Kennedy announced it, it was about mobilizing the US against the Soviets, especially with the shock of Sputnik still so raw.

It was geopolitics first, science a distant second. It was a race to be first on the moon, nothing beyond that mattered. Once that was achieved, interest faded as there wasn't much to rouse public support at that point.

Plus, the US was a much different society then.

Very true

August 29th in 1926 the first ever radio broadcast of a GAA match took place between Galway and Kilkenny in the All Ireland senior hurling semi final.

Quote from: Blowitupref on August 29, 2023, 05:42:52 PM
August 29th in 1926 the first ever radio broadcast of a GAA match took place between Galway and Kilkenny in the All Ireland senior hurling semi final.

What about the split season?

25th September in the year 83...
As the song goes.
40 years today

20 years ago today. Tyrone won their first AI.

20 years ago!!  :o

Quote from: trueblue1234 on September 28, 2023, 09:45:53 AM20 years ago today. Tyrone won their first AI.

20 years ago!!  :o

Mad I don't remember it being a Thursday.

Cant remember the Monday, tues wed and Thursday either.  Started to come right about a week after.  Good times...
Some panel. The only team to beat them that year was Monaghan... 

20 years! Where does the time go.

What a day. The best ever.

Quote from: God14 on September 28, 2023, 03:15:37 PMWhat a day. The best ever.

Hmmm
Depends where you are from

Quote from: God14 on September 28, 2023, 03:15:37 PMWhat a day. The best ever.

Always thought 2003 was more about the relief of finally getting the monkey off our back. 2005 was better and more enjoyable imo.

On this day in 1966, 116 children & 28 adults were buried alive in a primary school in Aberfan, South Wales as a collapsing colliery slag heap caused a massive landslide
https://twitter.com/thehistoryguy/status/1715642834798182699
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberfan_disaster

I was in the first year of primary school then and there was a prayer for the victims or somesuch and I think the teacher pointed out that we did not had a slag heap overlooking our school, only a drumlin.

Alan McLoughlin's equalising goal sends Ireland  to the  World Cup in the US.


30 years! Mad.

At the time I only lived a mile (as the crow flies) from Windsor in Iveagh, and the noise levels you could hear from the front door, the silence after that goal was deafening lol

On this  day in 1991, Freddie Mercury died, aged  45.

Quote from: AustinPowers on November 24, 2023, 10:52:33 PMOn this  day in 1991, Freddie Mercury died, aged  45.

Would be aged 77 today if still around. Younger that Mick Jagger,Paul McCartney,Bob Dylan,Willie Nelson,Rod Stewart to name but a few who are still performing. And 77 years old Dolly Parton recently brought out a new album.

 

Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 24, 2023, 11:10:47 PM

Quote from: AustinPowers on November 24, 2023, 10:52:33 PMOn this  day in 1991, Freddie Mercury died, aged  45.

Would be aged 77 today if still around. Younger that Mick Jagger,Paul McCartney,Bob Dylan,Willie Nelson,Rod Stewart to name but a few who are still performing. And 77 years old Dolly Parton recently brought out a new album.

 

You could boil them all down and make a consume - and Freddy would have still spanked them all. What a talent.

Quote from: AustinPowers on November 24, 2023, 10:52:33 PMOn this  day in 1991, Freddie Mercury died, aged  45.

Freddie, Kurt Cobain and Ayrton Senna were all shocking deaths for me. Much more so than Avicii and Dolores later on.  You get used to how cruel life can be.

4 January 1986,  Phil Lynott died aged only 36

3rd February 1959:

Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens  and the Big Bopper  (and their pilot) were killed in a plane crash in Iowa.

The  day the music died.

Quote from: AustinPowers on February 03, 2024, 10:29:41 AM3rd February 1959:

Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens  and the Big Bopper  (and their pilot) were killed in a plane crash in Iowa.

The  day the music died.

Apparently last thing he said getting on the plane was we can't travel in that shit heap.

Cormac McAnallen , died 20 years ago  today. 2nd March 2004.

Quote from: AustinPowers on March 02, 2024, 12:34:36 PMCormac McAnallen , died 20 years ago  today. 2nd March 2004.

This is interesting.

https://twitter.com/thomasniblock/status/1763639644623650976

On this day 50 years ago, ABBA won the Eurovision and Agnetha Fältskog was admired by teenage boys everywhere.

The Republic of Ireland Act 1948 came into force on Easter Monday, 18 April 1949, and declared that the state was a republic.

Republic Of Ireland Act1949 (https://www.rte.ie/archives/2024/0404/1441729-a-republic-is-born/)