Armagh Club football & hurling

[regal]

Best wishes to Kevin Nugent and his family and clubmates. I hope his recovery goes well and we are watching him in an Armagh jersey in the very near future.

[el_cuervo_fc]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8743095.stm


Kevin Nugent recovering in hospital after attack


Kevin Nugent, one of the teenage stars of Armagh's All-Ireland winning team, is in hospital recovering from injuries sustained in a club game on Sunday.

Nugent underwent extensive surgery for injuries caused by the vicious assault during a Division One club game between Maghery and Cullaville.

The 19-year-old was knocked unconscious and suffered horrific facial damage.

Armagh's disciplinary authority, the CCC, is in the process of launching an investigation into the incident.

The attack, which occurred in the final moments of the game, caused damage which will prevent the teenager from chewing solid food for four months.

Nugent suffered a broken chin, broken jaw, split lower gum, and all his lower teeth were displaced and part of his lower jaw dislodged.

The CCC will seek to establish the facts surrounding the incident and quickly identify who was responsible.

[Orior]

I hope Kevin makes a full and speedy recovery.

It sounds like the culprit was a boxer and I hope Cullaville do the right thing.

[brokencrossbar1]

They are savage injuries for any lad to suffer and it is not something you would do to someone in the heat of the moment.  there would need to be real venom in that kind of hit.  Things like that make me wonder about how I personally play the game.  I have always played on the edge and have never held back in playing it hard and have had the same back.  I played a game last week where a lad was puling and hauling at me the whole game and he hit me a sly dig in the guts.  I lashed out and knocked him with a punch on the cheek.  We were both wrong but I could easily have broken the lads cheekbone.  I went into the changing room after the game as I am captain of the team and wished them all the best in the next round as they had beaten us in championship.  I mentioned the incident in the changing room and said that these things can sometimes happen and if you give it you have to take it but that when we leave the pitch it is over.  I got a good few 'here here's from the players and myself and your man shook hands. 

My point is that in different circumstances the lads jaw was broken and I was no different than the lad from Culloville whether I meant it or not.  There was an "acceptance" that me and your man had a fair dig at each other but if it was a sneaky dig from behind I would have been rightly villified.  This is a problem that needs to be addressed, the latent acceptance of a cetain level of violence that runs through the sport, the "fair dig" mentality.  It spills into injuries that happened to the young Nugent lad sometimes.  I think there has to be a sea change in how the games are coached and how managers push the "win at all cost" mentality.  It is correct to be competitive but the game inmy view is in a bad place at the minute and there is need to bring it out of there.

[Onion Bag]

GR8 post BC, agree with every word

[el_cuervo_fc]

it is what is known as a section 47 offence. Triable either way in the magistrates' court or the crown court. If in the mag court max sentence 12 months plus fine. If in the crown court 7 years plus fine.



Could be prosecuted with gbh same sentencing.



Case of Moss in 2000 where offender punched an opponent in face during a rugby game fracturing his eye socket. Got 8 months.

[illdecide]

Yes BC1 i agree to a certain extent but me and you have clashed before on the field and there have been a few punches thrown but in all fairness was the venom in the punches (i think not). If a lad hit me on the pitch I'd give it back but to an extend where it's just a stinger and wouldn't cause damage (just enough to let him know he'll not get away with hitting me). This lad from Cullaville had obviously been setting this hit up and had thought this thru (waiting on the play to be elsewhere) and he obviously hit the lad with everything he had to cause that damage. To me there is a difference there, I've hit many a people on the pitch (retaliation) but I've never ever had it in my head to cause damage or hit someone with everything i have to do that damage.

If the lad that was guilty of the punch owned up and done the right thing and handed himself in at least it would show some remorse and would benefit both club and himself (may also reduce the punishment, if any)

[JUst retired]

The number of the player is now known and it appears he had just come on as a sub. Would this suggest it was accidental? I think not.

[brokencrossbar1]

Yes BC1 i agree to a certain extent but me and you have clashed before on the field and there have been a few punches thrown but in all fairness was the venom in the punches (i think not). If a lad hit me on the pitch I'd give it back but to an extend where it's just a stinger and wouldn't cause damage (just enough to let him know he'll not get away with hitting me).

But that is exactly the point I am trying to make.  I came off the field the other day and thought to myself "why did I get involved in that?".  There was no real malice in what i did but I could just have easily broken his jaw.  I wouldn't class myself as a clean player, more of a mullocker really, but I never go out with the intention of wrecking some young lads jaw.  I don't know if  if the lad from culloville went on the pitch with a specific intention to break Kevin Nugent's jaw but in a split second he made the decision to give the punch that extra bit that did the damage.  When I drew out and struck the lad last week I could have given it another 10% and broken his jaw.  That is the difference between me and the lad that hit Nugent and I think that the underlying acceptance in our games of the "fair dig" has allowed the situation where behaviour like happened in Maghery can occur.

[IVEDECIDED]

In all fairness I dont think we are talking about one dig here - read the injuries the lad has sustained, there is no way one punch did all that. I suspect there may well have been a boot involved.

[bennydorano]

I hope the Cullaville man gets cleaned in court, it's the only way boys & clubs like that are going to learn, a slap on the wrist form the County board does f**k all.

[illdecide]

In all fairness I dont think we are talking about one dig here - read the injuries the lad has sustained, there is no way one punch did all that. I suspect there may well have been a boot involved.

you stop making stuff up that you don't know, there was a maghery lad on here stating it was a punch. If he'd have been kicked then he would have said he was kicked...if you hit someone hard enough and catch him in the right place you could certainly cause that damage with one punch

[IVEDECIDED]

Bollocks! One punch broke a lads jaw, cheekbone, dislodged his lower jaw, smashed out all his lower teeth and tore his entire gum such that he cant eat solid foods for 4 months!! Wise up man!! Of course it wasnt a single blow...

[IVEDECIDED]

Sorry and a broken chin too! f**k me lads if that was one punch then im Mickey f**king mouse!!

[IVEDECIDED]

Ive just thought about that and it would be physically impossible to acvhieve all that damage with one punch especially one that is supposed to have come from behind. If people believe it can then its worse than the magic bullet theory!!

Ill give my opinion on such injuries - before I do im stressing its the opinion of someone who wasnt there and doesnt know all the facts before some of the tits here get their knickers in a twist.

To sustain those injuries I believe the lad was hit and as he fell was caught square with a boot. Its the only way I see these injuries occuring.

To you illdecide - ill let you line me up and give you three square on punches to my face and I bet you couldnt do the damage that was done to this lad. (Although no doubt you would enjoy it)

One punch my hole!!