Trump's Disasters

Started by Orior, February 19, 2017, 04:09:07 PM

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seafoid

Quote from: Puckoon on February 20, 2017, 06:30:26 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 20, 2017, 06:26:22 PM
Maybe if some of you experts on US Politics actually lived her for 20 or 30 years you might actually have some fvcking clue what you're talking about.
Not necessarily true

Quote from: whitey on February 20, 2017, 06:26:22 PM
Trump won fair and square. 
True - but at what cost?

Quote from: whitey on February 20, 2017, 06:26:22 PM
The Democrats no longer represent the working class and will get a hammering in 2018 if they're not careful.

They need to take a long hard look at how they lost this election - and they will.

Quote from: whitey on February 20, 2017, 06:26:22 PM
The main stream media are a fvckin joke and are becoming less relevant by the day


Biggest f**king lie being peddled and lapped up by the dumb, and the smart alike. This is the most dangerous element of Trump so far. It's absolutely disgraceful.

If the US economy crashes again between now and 2020 - and $9tn of tax cuts for the rich more or less guarantee it- the GOP will be out of power for a good while

stew

Quote from: omochain on February 20, 2017, 06:30:47 PM
Quote from: stew on February 20, 2017, 05:40:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 20, 2017, 11:37:45 AM
Quote from: stew on February 20, 2017, 09:24:20 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 19, 2017, 07:13:23 PM
Biggest disaster was the vile evil racist fascist cnut getting chosen as President.

Deal with it kid, I have to, so should you )
I have no control over what sort of yoke Yanks choose as President.  I don't "have to deal with it".
Trump is still a vile evil racist fascist cnut though.
s he a fascist or a Nazi? Make your minds up fellahs.

Don't believe there's a lot of difference between Fascism and Nazism. Both are far right political ideologies. The differentiator appears to be racism. Race is central to the Nazi ideology.
So, not much of the choice there for the fellahs, me thinks. From a lot of his stances and looking at many of his cabinet picks plus his inner circle, he might qualify on both counts.

Right on, the vile **** bate a vile **** thanks to the democrats rigging the primaries, they can blame no one but themselves the stupid bastards!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Wildweasel74

Have to laugh at some of u irish guys living in America for years! How u start out, on a holiday or work visa? Your the immigrants too; hell unless u native american you all a bunch of blow ins

thewobbler

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 20, 2017, 02:24:06 PM
Right now Trump is like the corner back at the throw in, jabbing his marker in the ribs and throwing down an early marker.
He'll settle down soon enough and get on with doing nothing of any substance.

In fairness you could say the same about the media.

After 8 years of mr nice but boring, they've been handed manna from heaven in the form of someone who has little interest in protocols, manners or formalities. Throw into the bargain that he's from the end of the political spectrum that the media largely despises, and it's jackpot time.

But if the media have any professional pride at all they will soon have to revert to reporting his administration's performance in a largely objective way. Which won't fill anywhere near as many column inches.

seafoid


foxcommander

Quote from: thewobbler on February 20, 2017, 07:12:55 PM
But if the media have any professional pride at all they will soon have to revert to reporting his administration's performance in a largely objective way. Which won't fill anywhere near as many column inches.

Have you watched CNN? :D
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

thewobbler

Quote from: foxcommander on February 20, 2017, 07:16:42 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 20, 2017, 07:12:55 PM
But if the media have any professional pride at all they will soon have to revert to reporting his administration's performance in a largely objective way. Which won't fill anywhere near as many column inches.

Have you watched CNN? :D


True - but the worrying thing recently is that almost every media outlet covering Trump has donned a CNN style agenda first, facts arenot that interesting, kind of approach.

foxcommander

Quote from: thewobbler on February 20, 2017, 07:20:17 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on February 20, 2017, 07:16:42 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 20, 2017, 07:12:55 PM
But if the media have any professional pride at all they will soon have to revert to reporting his administration's performance in a largely objective way. Which won't fill anywhere near as many column inches.

Have you watched CNN? :D


True - but the worrying thing recently is that almost every media outlet covering Trump has donned a CNN style agenda first, facts arenot that interesting, kind of approach.

Sensational stories get ratings. That's all that seems to matter anymore. Collective anger and rage fill the tiny minds of the protesters.
Watch the democrats pit Kim Kardashian vs Trump in 2020.

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Captain Obvious

Quote from: whitey on February 20, 2017, 06:26:22 PM
I will make a prediction:  Trump is going to do just fine
I will make another predicton: Once his term is done and no matter how bad Trump does, guys like you will say he did just fine.

J70

Quote from: foxcommander on February 20, 2017, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on February 20, 2017, 03:12:49 PM
Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 02:57:43 PM
And right now he is trying to implement the dream platform of the far right, complete with bans of muslims, round-ups of illegal immigrants, tearing families apart in the process.

What part of illegal don't you understand. How can you tear a family apart if they shouldn't actually be there in the first place.

What part of deporting parents of American-born children, leaving the rest of the family behind, do you think is defensible and consistent with the supposed party of family values? Is deporting a woman in the states since her teens and leaving her American-born teenage kids without a mother not tearing a family apart?

Just because a loophole has been used doesn't mean they all get to stay. Granting passports to children of parents who are illegally in a country is madness.
No reason the kids can't go back with them. They can always return when they are older.

Its ok to rip kids suddenly from the only lives and society they've known and send them off to live in, what is for them, a foreign country, where who knows what kind of work their parents will get or if the kids even know the language?

Sorry, but THAT is madness.

There's no reason why Trump couldn't have continued the Obama administration practice of returning those who'd just entered as well as the serious criminals. As it was, the whole system was bursting at the seams anyway and they were scrambling around for places to put all these people. On top of that, the court system dealing with them has a massive backlog and not enough judges, without piling on people who got caught years ago with some minor misdemeanor.

J70

Quote from: thewobbler on February 20, 2017, 07:12:55 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 20, 2017, 02:24:06 PM
Right now Trump is like the corner back at the throw in, jabbing his marker in the ribs and throwing down an early marker.
He'll settle down soon enough and get on with doing nothing of any substance.

In fairness you could say the same about the media.

After 8 years of mr nice but boring, they've been handed manna from heaven in the form of someone who has little interest in protocols, manners or formalities. Throw into the bargain that he's from the end of the political spectrum that the media largely despises, and it's jackpot time.

But if the media have any professional pride at all they will soon have to revert to reporting his administration's performance in a largely objective way. Which won't fill anywhere near as many column inches.

Just what should this "objective" reporting look like, based on what we've seen in the first month from Trump?

seafoid

Milo is in serious shit. CPAC have cancelled his speech and Breitbart are discussing what to do with him
Nazis don't like paedophilia.

J70

Quote from: whitey on February 20, 2017, 06:26:22 PM
Maybe if some of you experts on US Politics actually lived her for 20 or 30 years you might actually have some fvcking clue what you're talking about. Trump won fair and square.  The Democrats no longer represent the working class and will get a hammering in 2018 if they're not careful.The main stream media are a fvckin joke and are becoming less relevant by the day

I didn't vote for Trump and I think his candidacy was a fuckin joke, but it just shows how bad Hillary was if he beat her....even though she outspent him 2:1 and had a huge Electoral College advantage to begin with

I will make a prediction:  Trump is going to do just fine

Define "fine".

whitey

Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 09:03:23 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 20, 2017, 07:12:55 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 20, 2017, 02:24:06 PM
Right now Trump is like the corner back at the throw in, jabbing his marker in the ribs and throwing down an early marker.
He'll settle down soon enough and get on with doing nothing of any substance.

In fairness you could say the same about the media.

After 8 years of mr nice but boring, they've been handed manna from heaven in the form of someone who has little interest in protocols, manners or formalities. Throw into the bargain that he's from the end of the political spectrum that the media largely despises, and it's jackpot time.

But if the media have any professional pride at all they will soon have to revert to reporting his administration's performance in a largely objective way. Which won't fill anywhere near as many column inches.

Just what should this "objective" reporting look like, based on what we've seen in the first month from Trump?

Well for a start a NY Times reporter shouldn't be spreading false rumours that the First Lady was a prostitute. And a Time reporter shouldn't be claiming that Trump had removed a bust of MLK from the Oval Office on his first day in power......NEITHER of these arseholes got fired

foxcommander

Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 09:01:40 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on February 20, 2017, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on February 20, 2017, 03:12:49 PM
Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 02:57:43 PM
And right now he is trying to implement the dream platform of the far right, complete with bans of muslims, round-ups of illegal immigrants, tearing families apart in the process.

What part of illegal don't you understand. How can you tear a family apart if they shouldn't actually be there in the first place.

What part of deporting parents of American-born children, leaving the rest of the family behind, do you think is defensible and consistent with the supposed party of family values? Is deporting a woman in the states since her teens and leaving her American-born teenage kids without a mother not tearing a family apart?

Just because a loophole has been used doesn't mean they all get to stay. Granting passports to children of parents who are illegally in a country is madness.
No reason the kids can't go back with them. They can always return when they are older.

Its ok to rip kids suddenly from the only lives and society they've known and send them off to live in, what is for them, a foreign country, where who knows what kind of work their parents will get or if the kids even know the language?


Then that's on the parents to prepare them for their real life. Tough titty. You keep making excuses for people who have broken the law.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie