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« Reply #1530 on: July 26, 2021, 01:25:35 PM »
I live in the North and watch all my telly through sky.
I can't watch the Olympics on RTE because I'm geo blocked.
Same with International soccer and rugby.
What is my best option?

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« Reply #1531 on: July 26, 2021, 04:36:08 PM »
I live in the North and watch all my telly through sky.
I can't watch the Olympics on RTE because I'm geo blocked.
Same with International soccer and rugby.
What is my best option?

Iíve the Same problem.
Any advice out there

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« Reply #1532 on: July 26, 2021, 04:56:59 PM »
I live in the North and watch all my telly through sky.
I can't watch the Olympics on RTE because I'm geo blocked.
Same with International soccer and rugby.
What is my best option?

Iíve the Same problem.
Any advice out there
That would be something useful politicians up north could change.  Given the special situation of the north, there has to be reasonable grounds for overriding the geo block. And hard to see how it would cost Sky or RT… anything material.

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« Reply #1533 on: July 26, 2021, 05:25:25 PM »
I live in the North and watch all my telly through sky.
I can't watch the Olympics on RTE because I'm geo blocked.
Same with International soccer and rugby.
What is my best option?

Iíve the Same problem.
Any advice out there
That would be something useful politicians up north could change.  Given the special situation of the north, there has to be reasonable grounds for overriding the geo block. And hard to see how it would cost Sky or RT… anything material.

Politicians rarely address such useful matters, for instance they did nothing about mobile roaming until the EU sorted it out for them. And while something could be done for the cable TV it is harder to do something about the satellite without creating a whole market in dodgy cards etc. One overlooked aspect of Brexit is that NI is not in the EU electronic services market. This could mean roaming charges for phones again, since at this point nobody has done actually anything to stop this. I had paid for NowTV for a month for the GAA games, but I found myself in the 6 counties last Saturday and had to buy another day pass notwithstanding, this did not have happen last year.
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« Reply #1534 on: July 26, 2021, 05:31:41 PM »
Simplest way is to receive the RT… stations via the Saorview (terrestrial) platform if reception is possible in your location. No programming blackouts, with the three Virgin Media channels thrown in for good measure.
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« Reply #1535 on: July 26, 2021, 05:34:01 PM »
Simplest way is to receive the RT… stations via the Saorview (terrestrial) platform if reception is possible in your location. No programming blackouts, with the three Virgin Media channels thrown in for good measure.

Are the RTE channels available on Freeview?

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« Reply #1536 on: July 26, 2021, 05:35:51 PM »
I'm not sure politicians can do anything about it. It's a licensing issue, which your MLA has absolutely zero influence over.

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« Reply #1537 on: July 26, 2021, 05:47:04 PM »
Simplest way is to receive the RT… stations via the Saorview (terrestrial) platform if reception is possible in your location. No programming blackouts, with the three Virgin Media channels thrown in for good measure.

Are the RTE channels available on Freeview?

In a short answer - yes. But with geographical blackouts as noted above.

Both Freeview & Saorview are marketing names given for transmission & reception of TV channels (and some radio) broadcast via terrestrial transmitters.

Freeview is for the UK, Saorview is for the ROI

In the north, Freeview is broadcast via some transmitters where TG4 is on channel 51, RT…1 on channel 52 and RT…2 on channel 53. Some programming on these broadcasts will be subject to blackouts as RTE don't hold the rights to show these programmes outside of the Republic of Ireland.

If you can receive the "Saorview" transmissions from the Republic in NI, in most cases these channels will be listed up in the 800's on the Freeview channel guide. Most Freeview badged receivers bought in the last decade or so should be able to display them - if you get sound but no video then it is an incompatible receiver.

As to why these blackouts happen? Usually it is requested/demanded by the rights holder for the programme or event in the UK.
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« Reply #1538 on: July 26, 2021, 05:53:20 PM »
I'm not sure politicians can do anything about it. It's a licensing issue, which your MLA has absolutely zero influence over.

It should be addressed within the Olympic movement. If people from the 6 counties can represent Ireland then the contract that the Olympics signs should allow their families see them on TV. But as we know from the GAA, money wins out in these things.
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« Reply #1539 on: July 26, 2021, 06:07:32 PM »
I'm not sure politicians can do anything about it. It's a licensing issue, which your MLA has absolutely zero influence over.

It should be addressed within the Olympic movement. If people from the 6 counties can represent Ireland then the contract that the Olympics signs should allow their families see them on TV. But as we know from the GAA, money wins out in these things.

The IOC are notoriously angsty when it comes to broadcasting & marketing rights, among other things. Main problem is that the European broadcast area rights to the current Summer Olympic Games are held by Discovery Networks EMEA, whom have sub-let some of these rights to national broadcasters like the BBC* & RT…. In the past these rights where held by the EBU, of which both RT… and BBC are members and cross-border reception as such within Europe wasn't as much of a deal.
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« Reply #1540 on: July 26, 2021, 06:38:26 PM »
I'm not sure politicians can do anything about it. It's a licensing issue, which your MLA has absolutely zero influence over.

It should be addressed within the Olympic movement. If people from the 6 counties can represent Ireland then the contract that the Olympics signs should allow their families see them on TV. But as we know from the GAA, money wins out in these things.

The IOC are notoriously angsty when it comes to broadcasting & marketing rights, among other things. Main problem is that the European broadcast area rights to the current Summer Olympic Games are held by Discovery Networks EMEA, whom have sub-let some of these rights to national broadcasters like the BBC* & RT…. In the past these rights where held by the EBU, of which both RT… and BBC are members and cross-border reception as such within Europe wasn't as much of a deal.

You get perverse incentives in these things. The European sports bodies might think that widespread coverage of their sports was good thing, but some association in Africa where half the people have no TV wants the maximum money obtained regardless of the effect on the sports. You get the same thing happening in the GAA.
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« Reply #1541 on: July 26, 2021, 08:59:21 PM »
You get perverse incentives in these things. The European sports bodies might think that widespread coverage of their sports was good thing, but some association in Africa where half the people have no TV wants the maximum money obtained regardless of the effect on the sports. You get the same thing happening in the GAA.

Not sure what point you're trying to make here? In any case, the TV stations showing the 2020 Summer Olympics in Sub-Saharan Africa are, like Europe, largely a mixture of state, public service or private free-to-air channels with in a few cases some rights shared with pay-TV stations. The only part of the world where the current Olympic coverage is pretty much behind a paywall is in the Middle East North Africa area (MENA) where BeIN Sports hold the rights.
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« Reply #1542 on: August 29, 2021, 12:01:41 AM »
Rewatching today's RTE coverage. Ger Canning makes an awful lot of mistakes in a game, especially with names. Said Gormleys block was 2002. Talked about Ben McDowell coming on for McCann.  ???

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« Reply #1543 on: August 29, 2021, 12:04:28 AM »
Rewatching today's RTE coverage. Ger Canning makes an awful lot of mistakes in a game, especially with names. Said Gormleys block was 2002. Talked about Ben McDowell coming on for McCann.  ???

Ger is getting on - he's 70. So you can't be expecting him to get everybody's name right anymore or intricate historical details.

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« Reply #1544 on: August 29, 2021, 12:10:15 AM »
Rewatching today's RTE coverage. Ger Canning makes an awful lot of mistakes in a game, especially with names. Said Gormleys block was 2002. Talked about Ben McDowell coming on for McCann.  ???

I had the Irish language commentary on instead on RTE News channel (and foregone the HD version as well), because I just canít stand listening to his commentary. Iíd listen to Joe Pasquale commentating before Canning. Truly awful.