After seeing the disgraceful scenes in the Derry SFC a few weeks back and in the Down SFC yesterday, I feel it is time for the GAA to increase sanctions for punching. There is going to be someone badly injured someday. The GAA is supportive of the one-punch can ill campaign but in reality, is a one match ban enough for this sort of behaviour. It's time to crack down on this crap before someone dies.
Punch in head-3-6 months ban imo. Neighbour of mines died from one punch-its really dangerous
I think there needs to be a rule put in for punching to the head, there could have been serious damage done in Newry yesterday, serious damage.
If that happened in a pub there would be court proceedings.
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 25, 2021, 10:45:48 AM
I think there needs to be a rule put in for punching to the head, there could have been serious damage done in Newry yesterday, serious damage.
If that happened in a pub there would be court proceedings.
Yeah-but if you involve the law in the GAA you better be ready for a shunning
Awk lads it's a few slaps not nice but no point crying about it.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 25, 2021, 10:50:36 AM
Awk lads it's a few slaps not nice but no point crying about it.
I used to be first man in, but honestly its getting embarrassing and some of the blows are that cowardly that it will inevitably end very badly some day, too many getting involved from over the fence as well
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 25, 2021, 10:15:59 AM
After seeing the disgraceful scenes in the Derry SFC a few weeks back and in the Down SFC yesterday, I feel it is time for the GAA to increase sanctions for punching. There is going to be someone badly injured someday. The GAA is supportive of the one-punch can ill campaign but in reality, is a one match ban enough for this sort of behaviour. It's time to crack down on this crap before someone dies.
Nice little stamp to the head by the Kilcar goalkeeper on a Glenties player lying on the ground after the final whistle yesterday.
Why what happened yesterday?
Throwing your foot when a man is on the ground is not part of the GAA,
Throwing punches for the sake of it needs to stop
It's always the same clubs involved. In Armagh there is little surprise when you hear of a match involving certain clubs having a bit of boxing or being abandoned. I'm sure it's the same in other counties, am I right in saying there was a video doing the rounds last year or the year before of ballyholland? And they're at it again yesterday?
No point handing out individual sanctions, easy to find loopholes and overturn. Punish the clubs collectively
Quote from: general_lee on October 25, 2021, 11:34:17 AM
It's always the same clubs involved. In Armagh there is little surprise when you hear of a match involving certain clubs having a bit of boxing or being abandoned. I'm sure it's the same in other counties, am I right in saying there was a video doing the rounds last year or the year before of ballyholland? And they're at it again yesterday?
No point handing out individual sanctions, easy to find loopholes and overturn. Punish the clubs collectively
I take it you didn't see the videos doing the rounds. Big kilcoo sub midfielder was the one doing most of the swinging.
Quote from: charlieTully on October 25, 2021, 11:37:09 AM
Quote from: general_lee on October 25, 2021, 11:34:17 AM
It's always the same clubs involved. In Armagh there is little surprise when you hear of a match involving certain clubs having a bit of boxing or being abandoned. I'm sure it's the same in other counties, am I right in saying there was a video doing the rounds last year or the year before of ballyholland? And they're at it again yesterday?
No point handing out individual sanctions, easy to find loopholes and overturn. Punish the clubs collectively
I take it you didn't see the videos doing the rounds. Big kilcoo sub midfielder was the one doing most of the swinging.
He could have injured someone severly
Would both teams here not have a reputation? (Not from Down but from the outside looking in seems like that?)
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 25, 2021, 10:50:36 AM
Awk lads it's a few slaps not nice but no point crying about it.
Drinking your food through a straw for weeks while your jaw is wired is not nice.
Yes both clubs would have not great reputations within the county , I just think that punching someone full belt on the head should merit more than a one game ban.
Agreed. It sits uneasy with me at times tbh that things you would do in the street would involve jail time or prosecution yet if you do them on a football field it's not that big a deal.
Quote from: charlieTully on October 25, 2021, 11:37:09 AM
Quote from: general_lee on October 25, 2021, 11:34:17 AM
It's always the same clubs involved. In Armagh there is little surprise when you hear of a match involving certain clubs having a bit of boxing or being abandoned. I'm sure it's the same in other counties, am I right in saying there was a video doing the rounds last year or the year before of ballyholland? And they're at it again yesterday?
No point handing out individual sanctions, easy to find loopholes and overturn. Punish the clubs collectively
I take it you didn't see the videos doing the rounds. Big kilcoo sub midfielder was the one doing most of the swinging.
I saw the videos alright maybe unfair to single out ballyholland as Kilcoo are no angels either but point still stands, there are clubs in every county who seemingly act like tramps year in year out and don't face any proper punishment.
Years ago players and teams were severely punished......long suspensions.....I mean 3, 6 and 12 month bans to players and Clun pitches closed......nowadays there are big rows and nothing seems to happen. Bigger punishment for black card infringements.
Quote from: The Trap on October 25, 2021, 12:42:15 PM
Years ago players and teams were severely punished......long suspensions.....I mean 3, 6 and 12 month bans to players and Clun pitches closed......nowadays there are big rows and nothing seems to happen. Bigger punishment for black card infringements.
It depends on club and where you are from .
It will take a serious injury or worse to make the authorities sit up and take notice. Even the media seem reticent to cover these incidents or to follow up on possible sanctions.
Where on twitter?
People who punch should get a year ban, simple as that. Cowardly act as nobody is really expecting a punch on the pitch. I have been hit from behind a few times myself, but throughout my whole playing career never swung a punch at anybody.
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 25, 2021, 03:45:03 PM
Where on twitter?
People who punch should get a year ban, simple as that. Cowardly act as nobody is really expecting a punch on the pitch. I have been hit from behind a few times myself, but throughout my whole playing career never swung a punch at anybody.
Search Kilcoo on twitter and it should be there
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 25, 2021, 03:45:03 PM
Where on twitter?
People who punch should get a year ban, simple as that. Cowardly act as nobody is really expecting a punch on the pitch. I have been hit from behind a few times myself, but throughout my whole playing career never swung a punch at anybody.
Have had the odd dirty Joe back in the day! side of the head punch, course both get sent off, all I was doing was defending myself!! Referees eh!! See nauthin
You can increase suspensions all you want but until you clean up the rule book and clubs/counties continue to appeal even the most blatant red cards nothing will change.
I don't think there's a sport in the world were indiscipline is ignored and so many suspensions overturned on ridiculous technicalities and the actual sending off offence is ignored
Don't worry about looking for it on Twitter, it's been on utv live.
Between Derry few weeks bck and Donegal and Down Championships yesterday's it's about time the Gaa brought in strict rules and suspensions against this sort of crap. Fight involving mentors and subs / automatic suspensions followings years championship.Any Sub onto the field, 6 months from the start of the following season. Sub onto the field and strikes 1 year. Supporters onto the field I think is a 2yr suspension already. Major on field fights involving just players suspend the clubs for 6 months, play all league games away from home. Come down hard on them, they get the message sooner or later. That big lad from Kilcoo was a disgrace looking at the TV report.
The TV companies tend to be all over it too. It is not a good look.
They do it cause there no comeback. Certain teams have too much influence on County boards, so the ruling on place for certain events needs to be In. Stone and come from Croke Park but they too worried about upsetting the certain cash cow and not enforcing the rules which ain't severe enough. I remember my own club getting I. Something like seen this weekend and got the pitch closed for a year, fined and the club suspended at all levels for 6 months. They appealed and dud get the underage level suspension reduced.
Quote from: general_lee on October 25, 2021, 11:34:17 AM
It's always the same clubs involved. In Armagh there is little surprise when you hear of a match involving certain clubs having a bit of boxing or being abandoned. I'm sure it's the same in other counties, am I right in saying there was a video doing the rounds last year or the year before of ballyholland? And they're at it again yesterday?
No point handing out individual sanctions, easy to find loopholes and overturn. Punish the clubs collectively
Yep. Hand out long bans so dirty teams like Armagh don't win another All-Ireland for 20 years! Oh wait, is that what really happened..!??? ;D
It's very sad to see this kind of stuff ending up on utv, they do not show gaa but when they do it's always in a bad light. We as a collective gaa unit need to eradicate this from our games.
Very difficult for clubs sometimes to implement bans even when dished out by CB. Banning a member from entering club grounds!! who is going to stop a father coming to the pitch to watch his son, brother , sister? some pressure on club officials
And herein lies the problem for clubs, the Kilcoo sub who was punching and kicking everyone in sight in front of a load of kids will be lorded as a hero. He will be getting loads of laughs, smiles and fist pumps by his own people this week. Wee lads who watched the incident will think "oh he is deemed a legend, so I'll do that at an u14 game " and the cycle continues. Someone has to break the cycle and that's why I feel tougher penalties are needed for someone throwing a closed fist with extreme force into the side of a lad's head.
Quote from: Never Give Up on October 26, 2021, 01:36:38 AM
Quote from: general_lee on October 25, 2021, 11:34:17 AM
It's always the same clubs involved. In Armagh there is little surprise when you hear of a match involving certain clubs having a bit of boxing or being abandoned. I'm sure it's the same in other counties, am I right in saying there was a video doing the rounds last year or the year before of ballyholland? And they're at it again yesterday?
No point handing out individual sanctions, easy to find loopholes and overturn. Punish the clubs collectively
Yep. Hand out long bans so dirty teams like Armagh don't win another All-Ireland for 20 years! Oh wait, is that what really happened..!??? ;D
Agree 100%
Thiers too many people that think its a bit of craice some sort of banter and light hearted punches can kill people.