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#1
For the life of me I cannot get the rationale for people within the GAA constantly belittling existing GAA competitions. The latest bandwagon is that the league final is a bad thing. Not too long ago there was a school of thought about how league success and AI success were inextricably linked but following Mayo's blip last year there appears to be a head of steam building towards doing away with the league final. And if you think I'm over reacting think back to when the black card and forward mark [to name but 2 shitshow ideas] were introduced and how the momentum for those were generated.

There seems to be a school of thought out there which would support the following:

The McKenna Cup & other provincial preseason comps are a waste of time and should be scrapped.
The provincial championships are not fit for purpose and should replace the preseason comps.
The National League is meaningless and should be used instead as a seeding competition for the Championship. 

TBF I never hear these things talked about, or indeed even mentioned, outside the confines of media studios, newspaper columns or this board. But you can be sure that if some windbag says something on TV or a podcast it will have a large band of people on here claiming it as their own original proposal during the following week.

PS not saying Peter C is a windbag, but if Tyrone were top of the league and gunning for the final instead of Derry there might have been a different slant to his argument ;-)






#2
Quote from: thewobbler on March 19, 2024, 08:22:42 AM
Quote from: snoopdog on March 19, 2024, 08:09:31 AMDo away with the only chance of a day out in croke pk for silverware for most duv 3 and 4 teams. Again the bugger counties always push for what suits them.


For the absolute life of me, I'll never understand why anyone would want to play in front of 5-10k people in Croke Park. The atmosphere is shit at these games. Absolute shit.

Tell me you've never played gaelic football without telling me........
#3
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
March 06, 2024, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 06, 2024, 10:12:50 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 09:18:07 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:14:22 AMRight decision as clubs need stop appealing every single restructure as they have been the last number of years, however it's a very dangerous situation if the executive can effectively carry or defeat any vote they want. This executive seems to have become a dictatorship and serious changes need made.
Also. 80k on a holiday? That's complete and utter madness.

County senior holiday?
According to Cahair yes

So, what this squad has done for the county the last 2 years, 2 Ulster's, 2 x semi final appearances. The sacrifices made, never mind the revenue brought in, you'd begrudge them a team holiday? Complete and utter madness is right

I'd agree with that, probably the equivalent of about £1,500 per man. Plus sponsors will be covering the majority of the costs i'd imagine?



I thought the 80k was for a warm-weather training camp?
#4
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2024
February 28, 2024, 09:39:47 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 28, 2024, 01:04:33 AM
Quote from: J70 on February 26, 2024, 05:34:23 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 26, 2024, 05:23:28 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 26, 2024, 05:18:34 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2024, 01:24:40 PMDerry last goal probably a square ball, but the Umpire raised his flag super quick.

He was clearly in the square. Thought it strange that no one questioned it

He definitely wasn't!

https://x.com/sporttg4/status/1761770141140816350?s=46&t=phQ2HHkWD0UVsLqr_FKpag

Looks pretty clear that he's outside the square when the ball leaves the other player's hands.

It wasn't a set play, so he's allowed to enter the square before the ball does.
It's not clear at all where the line is, but it looks like he is outside what we think is the square when the ball is played in.

With eyesight like that you should take up reffing.
#5
General discussion / Re: Hamas launch attack on Israel
February 23, 2024, 09:50:15 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 22, 2024, 11:31:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 22, 2024, 10:08:19 PMThe goal of Oct 7 was to show the true face of Israel to the world. Today the Attorney general spoke at the ICJ about Israeli settlers. Mission accomplished.
If that was the goal of oct 7, then it was a perverse masochistic act where Hamas leadership knowing their militia could in no way protect the Palestinian civilians, deliberately provoked the reaction of Israel and expected the mass slaughter of the innocents but were at peace with that plan because it would show the true face of Israel to the world?
That would point to Hamas leadership cynically and sadistically not giving a damn about the slaughter of the innocents but look to the propaganda value of such
Maybe that played a part, who knows with Hamas.
I would also look to who also benefits from this imposed conflict, namely the barely concealed hidden hands of Iran, Syria and Russia.


No need to look too hard for barely concealed hidden hands of those who benefit as they are in plain sight. The people enabling and cheerleading a genocide as they send billions in weapons to bomb children and women.

Sure they are all on TV every day of the week with comments such as 'kill them all' when asked about a ceasefire or proudly voting to stop funding to relief organizations.

These are the people benefitting with cash from AIPAC and other lobby groups such as weapons manufacturers who are making a killing from this.

So no need to to go looking for Reds under the Beds or Abduls in the Attic in this case mate.
#6
General discussion / Re: Hamas launch attack on Israel
February 22, 2024, 10:07:22 AM
Unbelievable the contortions the UK parliament went through last night to avoid saying they support a ceasefire, including the Speaker breaking with long held convention to allow an opposition amendment to another opposition party's early day motion. It appears Hoyle succumbed to blackmail from Starmer in order to keep his job as Speaker. In any normal political system both would lose their jobs.

What it also shows is that the influence the Israelis have over western political parties is awesome, it appears they can literally get them to do anything they want as most British politicians present stance flies in the face of reason and decency.

#7
I Will Follow [the most lucrative tax dodging regime]

Bad [Khamas]

Where the Streets Have No Name [or buildings if its Gaza]
#8
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
February 07, 2024, 10:40:31 AM
Egress from Celtic Park is compounded by the fact that [other than when playing Donegal/Sligo etc] nearly all traffic is funneled over 2 bridges.

The GAA should lobby for another new bridge over the Foyle, be money better spent than on Casement, or a new PA system.

Sure even if you can't hear that a pair of lost sunglasses have been handed in, you will get home in time for CF.
#9
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
January 31, 2024, 12:17:26 PM
That's it, thanks JD
#10
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
January 31, 2024, 09:18:03 AM
Did I read somethere that there's an event for Sean Brown before the games?
#11
General discussion / Re: The DUP thread
January 30, 2024, 11:19:09 AM
Isn't it completely ludicrous that there are still a significant percentage of unionists that will get behind a campaign with slogans such as No Surrender, the Slippery Slope to Dublin, No Sellout, For God and Ulster etc people amongst us living in a different millennium to the rest of the planet.
#12
General discussion / Re: The DUP thread
January 26, 2024, 12:29:23 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 26, 2024, 11:35:33 AM
Quote from: Keyser soze on January 26, 2024, 09:47:26 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 25, 2024, 10:17:45 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on January 25, 2024, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 25, 2024, 03:20:26 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on January 25, 2024, 02:44:16 PMI am pretty sure you cannot sit in the polling station regardless of what political party you come from.

Observers can sit in on the count at the count centre though to verify numbers of votes though the voting process is confidential and a vote can not be linked to an individual.

You can surely. SF have always done this at my local one. I'm sure the DUP do the same in Unionist areas. They will be sitting at a table by themselves and when the clerk calls out your name and address, the party official will score you off on their copy of the register. They take this back to party HQ where it is input into a database so that when they are canvassing next time round, they will know if you are a likely voter/nonvoter before you've even answered the door (though they won't know who you voted for unless you've told them when they canvassed last time round)

For the real staunch areas it's useful on polling day as around 6pm the database is able to produce a list of people who
1) Indicted in canvassing they would vote for your candidate
AND
2) Have not voted that day yet.
From this they can go door to door on the evening of polling day offering lifts, encouraging them to go to vote etc.

Nothing explicitly illegal any of this EXCEPT the fact they are technically storing data on you which you have not consented to. This caused a ruckus a while back with SF. Other parties kept remarkably quiet because they know they all do the exact same thing.

Never seen anyone other than the Electoral office officials in a poll centre,  am sure that this is  against the regs.

Found this:


1 http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/179741/Code-of-conduct-for␂campaigners-2015.pdf
2 Tellers are an established part of the democratic process although they have no standing in law.
Tellers are usually volunteers for candidates, parties or campaigns who are positioned outside a
polling station to ask voters for their elector number to see whether their supporters have turned out..
This activity is not illegal and may help to increase turnout by allowing campaigners to contact
electors who have not voted. However, tellers may be seen as impeding, obstructing or intimidating
electors on their way into the polling station/place. Any decision regarding the location or behaviour of
tellers is a matter for the Presiding Officer and RO, and tellers must comply with their instructions.
3 See Erlam & Ors v Rahman & Anor [2015] EWHC 1215 (QB) paragraphs 163 – 169 and 575 – 624.

It's 100% allowed and the parties have to give a list in advance of who will be there. They take it in shifts a few hours at a time. 

I have just quoted you the electoral commission regulations which states that it is 100% not allowed.

That's a teller. They'll stand outside the gates and count people going in.

What I'm talking about is a Polling Agent. We literally have to set up a table for them and leave a copy (a different colour to the real one) of the electoral register on that table. They aren't allowed to take it out of the polling station and it gets taken back to the main polling centre after polls closed but they have access to that thing from 7am -10pm. They have to be known in advance and when they arrive they show ID to the Polling Station manager and they have to keep a log throughout the day of who comes and goes be it polling agents, police, electoral staff or any other information like if someone tries to vote that's maybe done a proxy or postal vote etc.

I stand corrected!

I'm aware that saying so goes completely against the whole ethos of the discussion board, if not SM sites in general lol
#13
General discussion / Re: The DUP thread
January 26, 2024, 09:47:26 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 25, 2024, 10:17:45 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on January 25, 2024, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 25, 2024, 03:20:26 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on January 25, 2024, 02:44:16 PMI am pretty sure you cannot sit in the polling station regardless of what political party you come from.

Observers can sit in on the count at the count centre though to verify numbers of votes though the voting process is confidential and a vote can not be linked to an individual.

You can surely. SF have always done this at my local one. I'm sure the DUP do the same in Unionist areas. They will be sitting at a table by themselves and when the clerk calls out your name and address, the party official will score you off on their copy of the register. They take this back to party HQ where it is input into a database so that when they are canvassing next time round, they will know if you are a likely voter/nonvoter before you've even answered the door (though they won't know who you voted for unless you've told them when they canvassed last time round)

For the real staunch areas it's useful on polling day as around 6pm the database is able to produce a list of people who
1) Indicted in canvassing they would vote for your candidate
AND
2) Have not voted that day yet.
From this they can go door to door on the evening of polling day offering lifts, encouraging them to go to vote etc.

Nothing explicitly illegal any of this EXCEPT the fact they are technically storing data on you which you have not consented to. This caused a ruckus a while back with SF. Other parties kept remarkably quiet because they know they all do the exact same thing.

Never seen anyone other than the Electoral office officials in a poll centre,  am sure that this is  against the regs.

Found this:


1 http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/179741/Code-of-conduct-for␂campaigners-2015.pdf
2 Tellers are an established part of the democratic process although they have no standing in law.
Tellers are usually volunteers for candidates, parties or campaigns who are positioned outside a
polling station to ask voters for their elector number to see whether their supporters have turned out..
This activity is not illegal and may help to increase turnout by allowing campaigners to contact
electors who have not voted. However, tellers may be seen as impeding, obstructing or intimidating
electors on their way into the polling station/place. Any decision regarding the location or behaviour of
tellers is a matter for the Presiding Officer and RO, and tellers must comply with their instructions.
3 See Erlam & Ors v Rahman & Anor [2015] EWHC 1215 (QB) paragraphs 163 – 169 and 575 – 624.

It's 100% allowed and the parties have to give a list in advance of who will be there. They take it in shifts a few hours at a time. 

I have just quoted you the electoral commission regulations which states that it is 100% not allowed.
#14
Supermarkets and other small businesses esp bars and restaurants cannott get enough people to work for them, high wages or not.
#15
General discussion / Re: The DUP thread
January 25, 2024, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 25, 2024, 03:20:26 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on January 25, 2024, 02:44:16 PMI am pretty sure you cannot sit in the polling station regardless of what political party you come from.

Observers can sit in on the count at the count centre though to verify numbers of votes though the voting process is confidential and a vote can not be linked to an individual.

You can surely. SF have always done this at my local one. I'm sure the DUP do the same in Unionist areas. They will be sitting at a table by themselves and when the clerk calls out your name and address, the party official will score you off on their copy of the register. They take this back to party HQ where it is input into a database so that when they are canvassing next time round, they will know if you are a likely voter/nonvoter before you've even answered the door (though they won't know who you voted for unless you've told them when they canvassed last time round)

For the real staunch areas it's useful on polling day as around 6pm the database is able to produce a list of people who
1) Indicted in canvassing they would vote for your candidate
AND
2) Have not voted that day yet.
From this they can go door to door on the evening of polling day offering lifts, encouraging them to go to vote etc.

Nothing explicitly illegal any of this EXCEPT the fact they are technically storing data on you which you have not consented to. This caused a ruckus a while back with SF. Other parties kept remarkably quiet because they know they all do the exact same thing.

Never seen anyone other than the Electoral office officials in a poll centre,  am sure that this is  against the regs.

Found this:


1 http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/179741/Code-of-conduct-for␂campaigners-2015.pdf
2 Tellers are an established part of the democratic process although they have no standing in law.
Tellers are usually volunteers for candidates, parties or campaigns who are positioned outside a
polling station to ask voters for their elector number to see whether their supporters have turned out..
This activity is not illegal and may help to increase turnout by allowing campaigners to contact
electors who have not voted. However, tellers may be seen as impeding, obstructing or intimidating
electors on their way into the polling station/place. Any decision regarding the location or behaviour of
tellers is a matter for the Presiding Officer and RO, and tellers must comply with their instructions.
3 See Erlam & Ors v Rahman & Anor [2015] EWHC 1215 (QB) paragraphs 163 – 169 and 575 – 624.