Stormont Assembly Elections 2017

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armaghniac

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 09:25:39 PM
I've been playing Gaelic games and continue to do so for 35 years, club has had Irish classes for as long as I can remember and I've never known it to be repressed I've also never seen it too busy or people clambering for lessons ... Irish is everywhere in Belfast with schools dedicated to Irish language ...

Exactly, Irish is see as something in the private sphere, not part of the public one.

[quote[I think the cost of this could run in to tens if not hundreds of millions
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The DUP are not opposed to this because of the cost, they are opposed to this because they wish to pretend that it is not Ireland. The sad thing is that a lot of people suffering from Stockholm syndrome think it perfectly normal that they would behave in this bigoted way.

If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

gallsman

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Quote from: Hereiam on March 27, 2017, 10:48:45 PM
Why has everything to do with cost. People need to wake up and see that a united country has f**k all to do with cost

Tell me about this united country you speak of and its relation to yet another election here?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Hereiam on March 27, 2017, 10:48:45 PM
Why has everything to do with cost. People need to wake up and see that a united country has f**k all to do with cost

Do you feel any less Irish than someone in Cavan?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Milltown Row2

Quote from: armaghniac on March 27, 2017, 10:52:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 09:25:39 PM
I've been playing Gaelic games and continue to do so for 35 years, club has had Irish classes for as long as I can remember and I've never known it to be repressed I've also never seen it too busy or people clambering for lessons ... Irish is everywhere in Belfast with schools dedicated to Irish language ...

Exactly, Irish is see as something in the private sphere, not part of the public one.

[quote[I think the cost of this could run in to tens if not hundreds of millions

The DUP are not opposed to this because of the cost, they are opposed to this because they wish to pretend that it is not Ireland. The sad thing is that a lot of people suffering from Stockholm syndrome think it perfectly normal that they would behave in this bigoted way.
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But it will continue (if it happens) to be used by a very small minority within one grouping...

speaking Irish is something schools have been doing for a long time, and like I said been available in most GAA clubs,  learning another language is difficult enough for school kids who can't even do simple maths!!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

armaghniac

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 11:02:52 PM
But it will continue (if it happens) to be used by a very small minority within one grouping...

It was used by everyone before the British drove it out.

Quotespeaking Irish is something schools have been doing for a long time, and like I said been available in most GAA clubs,  learning another language is difficult enough for school kids who can't even do simple maths!!

Teach them before they go to school, then.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Milltown Row2

Quote from: armaghniac on March 27, 2017, 11:06:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 11:02:52 PM
But it will continue (if it happens) to be used by a very small minority within one grouping...

It was used by everyone before the British drove it out.

Quotespeaking Irish is something schools have been doing for a long time, and like I said been available in most GAA clubs,  learning another language is difficult enough for school kids who can't even do simple maths!!

Teach them before they go to school, then.

Well would we need an Irish language act then??
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

armaghniac

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 11:25:30 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 27, 2017, 11:06:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 11:02:52 PM
But it will continue (if it happens) to be used by a very small minority within one grouping...

It was used by everyone before the British drove it out.

Quotespeaking Irish is something schools have been doing for a long time, and like I said been available in most GAA clubs,  learning another language is difficult enough for school kids who can't even do simple maths!!

Teach them before they go to school, then.

Well would we need an Irish language act then??

So that those children are not then required to use English to know where they are.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Hereiam

I never siad i wanted another election. I think its a stupid move if SF think they can increase there vote.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: armaghniac on March 27, 2017, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 11:25:30 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 27, 2017, 11:06:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 11:02:52 PM
But it will continue (if it happens) to be used by a very small minority within one grouping...

It was used by everyone before the British drove it out.

Quotespeaking Irish is something schools have been doing for a long time, and like I said been available in most GAA clubs,  learning another language is difficult enough for school kids who can't even do simple maths!!

Teach them before they go to school, then.

Well would we need an Irish language act then??

So that those children are not then required to use English to know where they are.

They don't have to!...

If you need an Irish language act to feel more Irish then that's fine.... no one has taken away your Irishness and an act won't make it any different.. if the South has not changed its language in it's near 100 years of freedom from the brits, what makes you think an act up here will change it ?

I'm all for Irish language, but it won't make me more Irish and if I used it in my day to day job I'd not make it to then end of the week...
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

haranguerer

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 11:44:23 PM

I'm all for Irish language, but it won't make me more Irish and if I used it in my day to day job I'd not make it to then end of the week...

Why not?

armaghniac

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 11:44:23 PM
If you need an Irish language act to feel more Irish then that's fine.... no one has taken away your Irishness and an act won't make it any different.. if the South has not changed its language in it's near 100 years of freedom from the brits, what makes you think an act up here will change it ?

Perhaps no one has taken away my Irishness, but it wasn't for lack of trying. I see no reason for one part of Ireland to have a different status in relation to Irish than another.

QuoteI'm all for Irish language,

Yeah, right.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

johnneycool

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 11:44:23 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 27, 2017, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 11:25:30 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 27, 2017, 11:06:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 11:02:52 PM
But it will continue (if it happens) to be used by a very small minority within one grouping...

It was used by everyone before the British drove it out.

Quotespeaking Irish is something schools have been doing for a long time, and like I said been available in most GAA clubs,  learning another language is difficult enough for school kids who can't even do simple maths!!

Teach them before they go to school, then.

Well would we need an Irish language act then??

So that those children are not then required to use English to know where they are.

They don't have to!...

If you need an Irish language act to feel more Irish then that's fine.... no one has taken away your Irishness and an act won't make it any different.. if the South has not changed its language in it's near 100 years of freedom from the brits, what makes you think an act up here will change it ?

I'm all for Irish language, but it won't make me more Irish and if I used it in my day to day job I'd not make it to then end of the week...

Its the DUP's attitude to all things Irish under Foster and their denial of the right to be Irish as "we're all British, end of discussion" in their eyes.
There was an article a while back about how far she personally got involved in preventing the tourist board from putting up bi-lingual signs for St Patricks Trail in South Down tells you all you need to know about her attitude to those of us who're Irish in the wee six.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: haranguerer on March 28, 2017, 08:56:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2017, 11:44:23 PM

I'm all for Irish language, but it won't make me more Irish and if I used it in my day to day job I'd not make it to then end of the week...

Why not?

Why not? what line of work do you do? Irish teacher?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

screenexile

Quote from: Hereiam on March 27, 2017, 10:48:45 PM
Why has everything to do with cost. People need to wake up and see that a united country has f**k all to do with cost

If I or my family are going to be worse off as part of a United Ireland then I'll not be voting for one!!

Avondhu star

Quote from: Hereiam on March 27, 2017, 10:48:45 PM
Why has everything to do with cost. People need to wake up and see that a united country has f**k all to do with cost
You are being a bit naieve there. Of course it has to do with costs. If a united Ireland cannot provide better services, education health care of the sick and deprived and overall a more fairer system of administration what is the point?
People arent going to be happy in some glorified Socialist republic kneeling before murals of Bobby Sands and El Presidento Adams
The economic case must be met to show that a unified approach with cooperation of all can deliver an economy which serves five/six million people. Agriculture Pharmaceutical Green energy tourism are all areas which can be developed to provide a long term successful economy
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