Stormont Assembly Elections 2017

[screenexile]

Still, I think Adams was being premature with his statement of some certainty.

How? There is now a nationalist majority, you think its premature to say the idea that there will be always a unionist majority has been demolished? Its stating the blindingly obvious.

I don't think he needed to say that the "IDEA" of a Unionist majority has been demolished. . . he should be speaking positively about Nationalism/Republicanism there was no need to mention the Unionists demise let them worry about it.

It's so important going forward for Sinn Fein to take the higher ground on everything, although it didn't work for Clinton the mantra "When they go low we go high" should be SF's new motto!!!

[Main Street]

Still, I think Adams was being premature with his statement of some certainty.

How? There is now a nationalist majority, you think its premature to say the idea that there will be always a unionist majority has been demolished? Its stating the blindingly obvious.

I don't think he needed to say that the "IDEA" of a Unionist majority has been demolished. . . he should be speaking positively about Nationalism/Republicanism there was no need to mention the Unionists demise let them worry about it.

It's so important going forward for Sinn Fein to take the higher ground on everything, although it didn't work for Clinton the mantra "When they go low we go high" should be SF's new motto!!!

Politically Adam's statement is premature. And already that word in bold (idea) has been lost in the headline.

The very thing unionists fear, is everything they value being demolished, annihilated.
If and when Sinn Fein can be the first party, the unionist veto will still remain.
A situation will change but the unionists will react to that dynamic.
And that type of dynamic does not have that much appeal, does it?
At least not a destroyed forever appeal about it.

What's the goal?
Is the goal, a majority in a referendum voting to leave the UK? Hardly you can say right now that the idea of a majority voting to remain in the UK has been demolished for ever.

[bennydorano]

Still, I think Adams was being premature with his statement of some certainty.

How? There is now a nationalist majority, you think its premature to say the idea that there will be always a unionist majority has been demolished? Its stating the blindingly obvious.

There is now a Nationalist majority?  When did this happen?

[AhNowRef]

Still, I think Adams was being premature with his statement of some certainty.

How? There is now a nationalist majority, you think its premature to say the idea that there will be always a unionist majority has been demolished? Its stating the blindingly obvious.

I don't think he needed to say that the "IDEA" of a Unionist majority has been demolished. . . he should be speaking positively about Nationalism/Republicanism there was no need to mention the Unionists demise let them worry about it.

It's so important going forward for Sinn Fein to take the higher ground on everything, although it didn't work for Clinton the mantra "When they go low we go high" should be SF's new motto!!!

Yep, we need to be "better" than they are/were ...  and I believe we will be..

[LCohen]

Still, I think Adams was being premature with his statement of some certainty.

How? There is now a nationalist majority, you think its premature to say the idea that there will be always a unionist majority has been demolished? Its stating the blindingly obvious.

There is now a Nationalist majority?  When did this happen?

Quite right. There is no nationalist majority in Stormont and no nationalist majority in NI.

[armaghniac]

Quite right. There is no nationalist majority in Stormont and no nationalist majority in NI.

More nationalist voted than unionist, because of the constituency borders this didn't transpire to more seats but they had the majority vote

Do you mean that the turnout of the smaller number of nationalist voters was higher than than among the larger number of Unionist voters?

[OgraAnDun]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/ruth-dudley-edwards/ruth-dudley-edwards-unionists-need-to-start-acting-like-patriots-rather-than-nationalists-or-war-will-be-lost-35504078.html


Oh the irony.


Talk of a border poll is unfortunately premature at the minute. Whilst it is now closer than it looked 10 months ago, we need to remember that a high proportion of Alliance voters are soft unionists who would be very unlikely to vote for a UI in a referendum. Brexit might change that however - we're in for an interesting few years.

[Jeepers Creepers]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/ruth-dudley-edwards/ruth-dudley-edwards-unionists-need-to-start-acting-like-patriots-rather-than-nationalists-or-war-will-be-lost-35504078.html


Oh the irony.


Talk of a border poll is unfortunately premature at the minute. Whilst it is now closer than it looked 10 months ago, we need to remember that a high proportion of Alliance voters are soft unionists who would be very unlikely to vote for a UI in a referendum. Brexit might change that however - we're in for an interesting few years.

Yip, need to careful what they wish for in terms of calling for a border poll.

[bennydorano]

Still, I think Adams was being premature with his statement of some certainty.

How? There is now a nationalist majority, you think its premature to say the idea that there will be always a unionist majority has been demolished? Its stating the blindingly obvious.

There is now a Nationalist majority?  When did this happen?

Quite right. There is no nationalist majority in Stormont and no nationalist majority in NI.

More nationalist voted than unionist, because of the constituency borders this didn't transpire to more seats but they had the majority vote

Really? I must have missed that analysis somewhere along the way.  Sure throw up the data and evidence to we get a look.

[Main Street]

The MLAs shouldn't get paid until the Assembly is functioning, expenses only reimbursed.
That might give them an incentive to cut out a part of the waffle.

[LCohen]

Still, I think Adams was being premature with his statement of some certainty.

How? There is now a nationalist majority, you think its premature to say the idea that there will be always a unionist majority has been demolished? Its stating the blindingly obvious.

There is now a Nationalist majority?  When did this happen?

Quite right. There is no nationalist majority in Stormont and no nationalist majority in NI.

More nationalist voted than unionist, because of the constituency borders this didn't transpire to more seats but they had the majority vote

SF and SDLP had less than 40% of the vote. What parties did the other 10%+ express their nationslism by voting for?

[LCohen]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/ruth-dudley-edwards/ruth-dudley-edwards-unionists-need-to-start-acting-like-patriots-rather-than-nationalists-or-war-will-be-lost-35504078.html


Oh the irony.


Talk of a border poll is unfortunately premature at the minute. Whilst it is now closer than it looked 10 months ago, we need to remember that a high proportion of Alliance voters are soft unionists who would be very unlikely to vote for a UI in a referendum. Brexit might change that however - we're in for an interesting few years.

Impossible to say at this stage but its really not certain that brexit will make much of a difference

[seafoid]

   https://www.ft.com/content/80d3f39e-0265-11e7-ace0-1ce02ef0def9

   "The election outcome has gravely weakened the more hardline DUP, which supported Brexit," says Vincent Boland, the FT's Dublin correspondent. "So the question of the EU will become a much bigger issue in Northern Irish politics from here on."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2zvWbrv-CY

[haranguerer]

Still, I think Adams was being premature with his statement of some certainty.

How? There is now a nationalist majority, you think its premature to say the idea that there will be always a unionist majority has been demolished? Its stating the blindingly obvious.

I don't think he needed to say that the "IDEA" of a Unionist majority has been demolished. . . he should be speaking positively about Nationalism/Republicanism there was no need to mention the Unionists demise let them worry about it.

It's so important going forward for Sinn Fein to take the higher ground on everything, although it didn't work for Clinton the mantra "When they go low we go high" should be SF's new motto!!!

Politically Adam's statement is premature. And already that word in bold (idea) has been lost in the headline.

The very thing unionists fear, is everything they value being demolished, annihilated.
If and when Sinn Fein can be the first party, the unionist veto will still remain.
A situation will change but the unionists will react to that dynamic.
And that type of dynamic does not have that much appeal, does it?
At least not a destroyed forever appeal about it.

What's the goal?
Is the goal, a majority in a referendum voting to leave the UK? Hardly you can say right now that the idea of a majority voting to remain in the UK has been demolished for ever.

Yes, lost in some of the headlines. Propagated by comments here and elsewhere based on those erroneous headlines. How long will it take for the penny to drop that headlines aren't usually a good guide? Still think Elvis lives on the moon? Probably best to read the full thing before commenting.

And now we're talking about a referendum? First commenting on something he didn't say, then deciding for him what he should have been talking about so as to make his statement fit with your first evaluation of it 

[haranguerer]

Still, I think Adams was being premature with his statement of some certainty.

How? There is now a nationalist majority, you think its premature to say the idea that there will be always a unionist majority has been demolished? Its stating the blindingly obvious.

There is now a Nationalist majority?  When did this happen?

Apologies, of course there isn't - got carried away. Doesn't make any difference to the point re unionists not having a majority