Stormont Assembly Elections 2017

[vallankumous]

Tribal is the same as sectarian. When the tribes are religious . Rangers v Celtic is sectarian.

I was really offended ever time I heard the result called sectarian. I know I'm not sectarian and have so much more faith in the people of the north. Now it seems I'm the only one.
Rather than refute the charge of sectarianism the sub conscious in the northern mind set will try to dilute the word. Seems like years of propaganda has become the reality.

[imtommygunn]

Yesterday's vote was progress but 225k people still voted for the dup. Edwin poots got in. Edwin poots. So there has been a lot of progress but have a way to go.

[Keyser soze]

Vallankamous you've spent three (I didn't count em) pages splitting hairs. Everybody accepts you didn't vote on sectarian lines, can we please leave it at that.

[T Fearon]

Tribal voting will continue to produce stalemate and non delivery especially for the deprived.A united ireland would not be endorsed at the ballot box,North and South anytime soon

[Horse Box]

Tribal voting will continue to produce stalemate and non delivery especially for the deprived.A united ireland would not be endorsed at the ballot box,North and South anytime soon

Various surveys suggest otherwise !

[north_antrim_hound]

Tribal voting will continue to produce stalemate and non delivery especially for the deprived.A united ireland would not be endorsed at the ballot box,North and South anytime soon

very true but it looks a hell of lot more viable than it did this time last week
a long way to go all the same

[Minder]

With a border poll you would get *every* unionist voting to remain in the U.K. Don't think it would be like that on the nationalist side of the house. Anyway it's a long way down the road & nobody knows what it would look like.  There would be no chance of success at the minute and it would be damaging to seek one in the short term, knowing it would be almost certainly doomed to defeat.

In any event it shouldn't be the focus now, but getting some sort of functioning government in place

[imtommygunn]

The focus now should be sorting this place out. It is a mess. A united ireland could never happen in current state.

[Rossfan]

Lads and lassies, I can't be bothered looking back the 20 pages since yesterday and I'm too tired to look it up anywhere
But has anyone the total first preferences for the parties ?

[Take Your Points]

Lads and lassies, I can't be bothered looking back the 20 pages since yesterday and I'm too tired to look it up anywhere
But has anyone the total first preferences for the parties ?

Democratic Unionist Party   225,413   28.1%   
Sinn Féin   224,245   27.9%   
SDLP     95,958   11.9%   
Ulster Unionist Party   103,314   12.9%   
Alliance Party   72,717   9.1%   
Green Party   18,527   2.3%   
Traditional Unionist Voice   20,523   2.6%   
Independents   14,407   1.8%   
People Before Profit Alliance   14,100   1.8%   
Progressive Unionist Party of NI   5,590   0.7%
Conservatives   2,399   0.3%   
Others   6,122   0.8%   

Turnout   64.8%
Electorate: 1,254,709

[Main Street]

Lads and lassies, I can't be bothered looking back the 20 pages since yesterday and I'm too tired to look it up anywhere
But has anyone the total first preferences for the parties ?

Democratic Unionist Party   225,413   28.1%   
Sinn Féin   224,245   27.9%   
SDLP     95,958   11.9%   
Ulster Unionist Party   103,314   12.9%   
Alliance Party   72,717   9.1%   
Green Party   18,527   2.3%   
Traditional Unionist Voice   20,523   2.6%   
Independents   14,407   1.8%   
People Before Profit Alliance   14,100   1.8%   
Progressive Unionist Party of NI   5,590   0.7%
Conservatives   2,399   0.3%   
Others   6,122   0.8%   

Turnout   64.8%
Electorate: 1,254,709

The move by the Conservative party to contest elections in NI isn't going too well.

[Eamonnca1]

The move by the Conservative party to contest elections in NI isn't going too well.

Time for Lord Such to offer them an electoral pact.

[armaghniac]

You have to look at equivalences to see how all fared:

DUP 38 (2016) equals 32 (2017) achieved 28 down by 12.5%

SF 28 (2016) equals 23 (2017) achieved 27 up by 17.4%

UUP 16 (2016) equals 13 (2017) achieved 10 down by 23.1%

SDLP 12 (2016) equals 10 (2017) achieved 12 up by 20%

Alliance 8 (2016) equals 7 (2017) achieved 8 up by 14.3%

If the turnout goes back down at the next election, DUP will be the big winners. If foster is gone by then, will the extra 10% that came out this time stay at home?

The change in the balance of power this time is symbolic but I wouldn't be certain that it's permanent. It would be interesting to see the age profile of DUP voters.

There is a calculation on Slugger that there are 4000 more voters from a nationalist background each year. Turnout might give a temporary reboost to the DUP but the writing is on the wall, these people might not be out and out nationalists but their vote is unlikely to end up with the DUP. In addition, Brexit may mean thousands of EU citizens taking out British citizenship and so getting a vote, Lukas or Agnieska might produce a British passport at the poll for ID, but probably won't vote for the DUP either and the Pro EU parties will target these voters.

The focus now should be sorting this place out. It is a mess. A united ireland could never happen in current state.

And people are happy just to work the GFA for a generation, the only danger is that the British will overturn the whole thing with Brexit.

[Avondhu star]

Vallankamous you've spent three (I didn't count em) pages splitting hairs. Everybody accepts you didn't vote on sectarian lines, can we please leave it at that.

His doctor encourages him to engage on these websites as it prevents him from his usual habit of eating the feathers in his pillow

[Take Your Points]

Democratic Unionist Party   225,413   28.1%   
Sinn Féin   224,245   27.9%   
SDLP     95,958   11.9%   
Ulster Unionist Party   103,314   12.9%   
Alliance Party   72,717   9.1%   
Green Party   18,527   2.3%   
Traditional Unionist Voice   20,523   2.6%   
Independents   14,407   1.8%   
People Before Profit Alliance   14,100   1.8%   
Progressive Unionist Party of NI   5,590   0.7%
Conservatives   2,399   0.3%   
Others   6,122   0.8%   

Turnout   64.8%
Electorate: 1,254,709

Nationalist = 224,245 + 95,958 +14,100 = 334,303     26.6% of electorate     

Unionist =225,413 + 103,314 + 20,523 + 5,590 + 2,399 + 4,918 = 365,157    29.1% of electorate

Others =  72,717 + 18,527 + 14,407 - 4918 + 6,122 = 106,855     8.4% of electorate