Teachers get it handy!

[trueblue1234]

Calling for pay parity is an easy soundbite that Trade Unions can use to establish their position in negotiations.
Why anyone on here would begrudge teachers getting a pay rise or achieving pay parity with UK based teachers is beyond me. It is not an easy job and it is not handy for those working in schools.

But my point is most careers are lower paid here than UK. Doing the same work as them. I've nothing against teachers getting a rise but trying that argument is a bit of BS imo.

I agree teaching would be a tough career. But so is healthcare, engineering, finance, trades etc. and their all paid less than in the uk too.

Yet, pay parity is exactly what recent healthcare strikes were about and exactly what they received in their pay offer.

But, of course, you'll not call them out for "BS"....

I would. I think the pay parity with UK is bollix given most careers are paid less here in NI than the UK. As I said above about teachers, I'm not against them getting a rise, just don't think the argument should be based around pay parity, when it affects nearly all careers here.

[Deerstalker]

When they get pay parity I wonder what the next reason will be in a year or two ? Be interesting to see

[trailer]

Good to see a DUP spokesperson call out the Education Authority on BBC, although there'll be nothing done.  One thing I'm pretty sure of is that like other front line services, teachers and principals are over burdened by bureaucrats.  Between EA, Department of Education and CCMS, principals will have plenty of ridiculous red tape to wade through.

Civil servant departments are full of people who are completely unemployable in everyday life. Go to any of those CS office blocks and it's like the funny bus dropped everyone off. Clown school.

[Milltown Row2]

When they get pay parity I wonder what the next reason will be in a year or two ? Be interesting to see

There are loads of good reasons for pay rises, rise in inflation is the general one, or would you feel that once you get a rise that's that?

[Milltown Row2]

Good to see a DUP spokesperson call out the Education Authority on BBC, although there'll be nothing done.  One thing I'm pretty sure of is that like other front line services, teachers and principals are over burdened by bureaucrats.  Between EA, Department of Education and CCMS, principals will have plenty of ridiculous red tape to wade through.

Civil servant departments are full of people who are completely unemployable in everyday life. Go to any of those CS office blocks and it's like the funny bus dropped everyone off. Clown school.

I've worked in many engineering private sector jobs, and there are guys working their with little or no effort. But in union jobs, are as long as they get up in the morning they are sorted.. There are bluffers in most work places.

The problem with the CS is probably top heavy and too easy to coast along. Not sure if they have KPI's or job reviews.. I'm sure they do, but what happens afterwards?

[DownFanatic]

There is obviously the pay dispute to settle but there is a lot more to be resolved too, namely workload agreements etc. Could be quite some time before the full settlement of all issues is sorted.

[JoG2]

When they get pay parity I wonder what the next reason will be in a year or two ? Be interesting to see

That's the spirit, keep all the money in hands of the elites. Closet Tory

[Deerstalker]

When they get pay parity I wonder what the next reason will be in a year or two ? Be interesting to see

That's the spirit, keep all the money in hands of the elites. Closet Tory

Settle yourself, have no qualms about public sector workers receiving a fair salary.

Just come out and say you want more money, I remember someone from a train union in England last year just saying "we want to be paid more". At least he was honest.

[JoG2]

When they get pay parity I wonder what the next reason will be in a year or two ? Be interesting to see

That's the spirit, keep all the money in hands of the elites. Closet Tory

Settle yourself, have no qualms about public sector workers receiving a fair salary.

Just come out and say you want more money, I remember someone from a train union in England last year just saying "we want to be paid more". At least he was honest.

That's exactly what they're after coco

[armaghniac]

When they get pay parity I wonder what the next reason will be in a year or two ? Be interesting to see

That's the spirit, keep all the money in hands of the elites. Closet Tory

Settle yourself, have no qualms about public sector workers receiving a fair salary.

Just come out and say you want more money, I remember someone from a train union in England last year just saying "we want to be paid more". At least he was honest.

That's exactly what they're after coco

What is the point of being occupied by the British if the feckers won't even pay you the British rate?

[imtommygunn]

Flegs.

[Kidder81]

If you increased the salary you may attract a better quality of candidate into teaching

[imtommygunn]

Teaching aside that is the thing that pisses me off about the NHS. They won't offer good salaries for people that are potentially saving peoples lives. Also more specifically in the case of nurses they can't get half the staff they need to they surely have a surplus as there are vacancies galore to the best of my knowledge so use that to make the conditions bearable for  the people that are in it plus it'll make it more appealing to fill those vacancies. Almost like it's intentional running the thing down 

[GTP]

Calling for pay parity is an easy soundbite that Trade Unions can use to establish their position in negotiations.
Why anyone on here would begrudge teachers getting a pay rise or achieving pay parity with UK based teachers is beyond me. It is not an easy job and it is not handy for those working in schools.

But my point is most careers are lower paid here than UK. Doing the same work as them. I've nothing against teachers getting a rise but trying that argument is a bit of BS imo.

I agree teaching would be a tough career. But so is healthcare, engineering, finance, trades etc. and their all paid less than in the uk too.

I would not expect any settlement to achieve pay parity but it does give the unions a concise (if apparently unpopular on here) demand to government.  Also harder for government to argue against without portraying a negative image of NI. Teachers here have had no rise in pay for a number of years unlike counterparts in GB so discrepancies in pay have grown. Trying  to narrow or remove that gap for doing the same job is not unreasonable.
Maybe the DUP can start campaigning to remove the pay border in the Irish Sea so teachers, nurses, engineers and all the rest are paid equally.

[Tony Baloney]

If you increased the salary you may attract a better quality of candidate into teaching

You'll always get people apply for it for the holidays regardless of salary.