Paddy Jackson apology

[Insane Bolt]

Is a spit roast like a Sunday roast or more like a barbecue?😎

[Milltown Row2]

If we can hate Jackson and Olding for being dicks to women can we also unite in our hatred of Patrick Reed because he's a w**ker to his folks.

I don't hate either of them and they may well be decent lads in other ways, but nor do I have any sympathy that their careers are stalling as a result.  They brought it on themselves.  It doesn't appear to have been a spur of the moment/ out of character thing fuelled by drink.  It seems from the texts that this type of behaviour took place fairly regularly and was perhaps even planned.  It was going to get exposed at some point given their profiles.

All probably a result of too much money, too much time on their hands and too much porn.

You're making out that having sex on a regular bases and telling your mates is a crime! Wise up

I'm not but 2-3 grown men setting up a drunken teenager for group sex with them is morally reprehensible, whether it's legal or not.

They were all around the same age and they hardly set her up. She was a willing participant.

No they weren't around the same age and she was drunk. Where you come from is it fine to double and treble up on drunk teenagers then?

They were all drunk, not as if they were sober and got her drunk. What is your definition of around the same age? Olding was around 22 and Jackson 23/24. The girl was 19. No big difference.

You obviously do not have daughters. They did this sort of stuff regularly according to their WA group including spit roasting another girl the night before. WTF is wrong that they  can't go out and get a shag without sending girls home feeling degraded?  Do you really think the "willing participants" to these regular  threesomes woke up the next morning punching the air saying 'result, I got spit-roasted!!'

I've two daughters. Your point is lost..the girl had sex

[trileacman]

The main difference between porn and real life is what the woman brings to a situation. While spit roasting when pissed may have been the height of pleasure for the lads it wouldnt be guaranteed to hit the spot for every woman, especially if she feels objectified.

If they had done a few spit roasts before, their fame may have carried them over the line, covering over the risks. But some women might not be satisfied with just the fame and the ride. They might expect something more. And the lads had 17 pints and weren't set up for nuance.

There is a lot more to sex than the act.

And the lads were very unlucky with their timing too.  #MeToo took off recently. Power/Fame and impunity are not particularly fashionable .

As some comedian used to say on RTE years ago, it's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice.

The board spit-roasting expert speaketh.

The most bizzare thing about internet forums is the manner in which people district and rationalise subjects and incidents. Who knew seafoids hidden pleasure was spit roast analysis.

[Insane Bolt]

Maybe he's been in a Turkish prison😂

[imtommygunn]

The main difference between porn and real life is what the woman brings to a situation. While spit roasting when pissed may have been the height of pleasure for the lads it wouldnt be guaranteed to hit the spot for every woman, especially if she feels objectified.

If they had done a few spit roasts before, their fame may have carried them over the line, covering over the risks. But some women might not be satisfied with just the fame and the ride. They might expect something more. And the lads had 17 pints and weren't set up for nuance.

There is a lot more to sex than the act.

And the lads were very unlucky with their timing too.  #MeToo took off recently. Power/Fame and impunity are not particularly fashionable .

As some comedian used to say on RTE years ago, it's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice.

Is there anything you aren't an expert on

[seafoid]

The main difference between porn and real life is what the woman brings to a situation. While spit roasting when pissed may have been the height of pleasure for the lads it wouldnt be guaranteed to hit the spot for every woman, especially if she feels objectified.

If they had done a few spit roasts before, their fame may have carried them over the line, covering over the risks. But some women might not be satisfied with just the fame and the ride. They might expect something more. And the lads had 17 pints and weren't set up for nuance.

There is a lot more to sex than the act.

And the lads were very unlucky with their timing too.  #MeToo took off recently. Power/Fame and impunity are not particularly fashionable .

As some comedian used to say on RTE years ago, it's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice.

The board spit-roasting expert speaketh.

The most bizzare thing about internet forums is the manner in which people district and rationalise subjects and incidents. Who knew seafoids hidden pleasure was spit roast analysis.

Are there any women in Tyrone apart from Philomena Begley?

[Syferus]

If we can hate Jackson and Olding for being dicks to women can we also unite in our hatred of Patrick Reed because he's a w**ker to his folks.

I don't hate either of them and they may well be decent lads in other ways, but nor do I have any sympathy that their careers are stalling as a result.  They brought it on themselves.  It doesn't appear to have been a spur of the moment/ out of character thing fuelled by drink.  It seems from the texts that this type of behaviour took place fairly regularly and was perhaps even planned.  It was going to get exposed at some point given their profiles.

All probably a result of too much money, too much time on their hands and too much porn.

You're making out that having sex on a regular bases and telling your mates is a crime! Wise up

I'm not but 2-3 grown men setting up a drunken teenager for group sex with them is morally reprehensible, whether it's legal or not.

They were all around the same age and they hardly set her up. She was a willing participant.

No they weren't around the same age and she was drunk. Where you come from is it fine to double and treble up on drunk teenagers then?

They were all drunk, not as if they were sober and got her drunk. What is your definition of around the same age? Olding was around 22 and Jackson 23/24. The girl was 19. No big difference.

You obviously do not have daughters. They did this sort of stuff regularly according to their WA group including spit roasting another girl the night before. WTF is wrong that they  can't go out and get a shag without sending girls home feeling degraded?  Do you really think the "willing participants" to these regular  threesomes woke up the next morning punching the air saying 'result, I got spit-roasted!!'

I've two daughters. Your point is lost..the girl had sex

You're obviously not great at empathising with these daughters because you've found it much easier to explain away the 'lads' numerous misdeeds. If you really have daughters it makes what you've done in this thread far worse.

[Milltown Row2]

Syferus women have sex men have sex! There was no victims here! All went in with eyes wide open move on!

[Avondhu star]

Syferus women have sex men have sex! There was no victims here! All went in with eyes wide open move on!

More than the eyes were wide open

[trileacman]

The main difference between porn and real life is what the woman brings to a situation. While spit roasting when pissed may have been the height of pleasure for the lads it wouldnt be guaranteed to hit the spot for every woman, especially if she feels objectified.

If they had done a few spit roasts before, their fame may have carried them over the line, covering over the risks. But some women might not be satisfied with just the fame and the ride. They might expect something more. And the lads had 17 pints and weren't set up for nuance.

There is a lot more to sex than the act.

And the lads were very unlucky with their timing too.  #MeToo took off recently. Power/Fame and impunity are not particularly fashionable .

As some comedian used to say on RTE years ago, it's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice.

The board spit-roasting expert speaketh.

The most bizzare thing about internet forums is the manner in which people district and rationalise subjects and incidents. Who knew seafoids hidden pleasure was spit roast analysis.

Are there any women in Tyrone apart from Philomena Begley?

Stunning retort, was it Philomena told ya about the spit roasts? I heard she's a loose one alright.

[moysider]

If we can hate Jackson and Olding for being dicks to women can we also unite in our hatred of Patrick Reed because he's a w**ker to his folks.

I don't hate either of them and they may well be decent lads in other ways, but nor do I have any sympathy that their careers are stalling as a result.  They brought it on themselves.  It doesn't appear to have been a spur of the moment/ out of character thing fuelled by drink.  It seems from the texts that this type of behaviour took place fairly regularly and was perhaps even planned.  It was going to get exposed at some point given their profiles.

All probably a result of too much money, too much time on their hands and too much porn.

You're making out that having sex on a regular bases and telling your mates is a crime! Wise up

I'm not but 2-3 grown men setting up a drunken teenager for group sex with them is morally reprehensible, whether it's legal or not.

They were all around the same age and they hardly set her up. She was a willing participant.

No they weren't around the same age and she was drunk. Where you come from is it fine to double and treble up on drunk teenagers then?

They were all drunk, not as if they were sober and got her drunk. What is your definition of around the same age? Olding was around 22 and Jackson 23/24. The girl was 19. No big difference.

You obviously do not have daughters. They did this sort of stuff regularly according to their WA group including spit roasting another girl the night before. WTF is wrong that they  can't go out and get a shag without sending girls home feeling degraded?  Do you really think the "willing participants" to these regular  threesomes woke up the next morning punching the air saying 'result, I got spit-roasted!!'

I've two daughters. Your point is lost..the girl had sex

She believed she was raped. That's why there was a court case. Most rape claims never even get to court.

[nrico2006]

If we can hate Jackson and Olding for being dicks to women can we also unite in our hatred of Patrick Reed because he's a w**ker to his folks.

I don't hate either of them and they may well be decent lads in other ways, but nor do I have any sympathy that their careers are stalling as a result.  They brought it on themselves.  It doesn't appear to have been a spur of the moment/ out of character thing fuelled by drink.  It seems from the texts that this type of behaviour took place fairly regularly and was perhaps even planned.  It was going to get exposed at some point given their profiles.

All probably a result of too much money, too much time on their hands and too much porn.

You're making out that having sex on a regular bases and telling your mates is a crime! Wise up

I'm not but 2-3 grown men setting up a drunken teenager for group sex with them is morally reprehensible, whether it's legal or not.

They were all around the same age and they hardly set her up. She was a willing participant.

No they weren't around the same age and she was drunk. Where you come from is it fine to double and treble up on drunk teenagers then?

They were all drunk, not as if they were sober and got her drunk. What is your definition of around the same age? Olding was around 22 and Jackson 23/24. The girl was 19. No big difference.

You obviously do not have daughters. They did this sort of stuff regularly according to their WA group including spit roasting another girl the night before. WTF is wrong that they  can't go out and get a shag without sending girls home feeling degraded?  Do you really think the "willing participants" to these regular  threesomes woke up the next morning punching the air saying 'result, I got spit-roasted!!'

I've two daughters. Your point is lost..the girl had sex

She believed she was raped. That's why there was a court case. Most rape claims never even get to court.

She might have believed she was raped or she simply made it up.

[Milltown Row2]

Seems the court thought she wasn't raped..

Seen one there of a man who got 6 years for rape and transpired she lied... admitted it to a friend on her social media..the guy was a promising  sports star!

Maybe at the time she believed she was raped too

[Syferus]

Seems the court thought she wasn't raped..

Seen one there of a man who got 6 years for rape and transpired she lied... admitted it to a friend on her social media..the guy was a promising  sports star!

Maybe at the time she believed she was raped too

Is that supposed to be relevant to this case in some manner?

[Milltown Row2]

Seems the court thought she wasn't raped..

Seen one there of a man who got 6 years for rape and transpired she lied... admitted it to a friend on her social media..the guy was a promising  sports star!

Maybe at the time she believed she was raped too

Is that supposed to be relevant to this case in some manner?

None, what's so ever.