Money, Dublin and the GAA

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muppet

Quote from: Lar Naparka on October 23, 2016, 10:27:14 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 21, 2016, 12:16:10 AM
Anyone know the number of paid full-time GPOs/GDAs Dublin have and how many the other counties have?
According to Eamonn Sweeney, the bucko that writes a column for the Sindo, there are 60.
NO ideas about the number in any other county.

60!

Imagine if Pat Hickey was CX of the Dubs CB? The scramble for tickets would be legendary.
MWWSI 2017

twohands!!!

Quote from: Lar Naparka on October 23, 2016, 10:27:14 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 21, 2016, 12:16:10 AM
Anyone know the number of paid full-time GPOs/GDAs Dublin have and how many the other counties have?
According to Eamonn Sweeney, the bucko that writes a column for the Sindo, there are 60.
NO ideas about the number in any other county.

I know Cork have somewhere around 5/6 because I heard there was a thing that the County Board were trying to claim lads who worked exclusively for UCC and CIT and some lads who did office jobs to bump the number up. I also heard from a guy with very good links to Croke Park that Dublin have more full-time coaches that all the other counties combined. I thought it was funny to hear Jayo and Brogan going on about all the coaching being done by the volunteers.

AZOffaly

Tipp have 4, one for each division. And they have a boss, a Games Manager.

seafoid

Michael Duignan ‏@DuignanMichael  16 august
Offaly, Ireland
Sport in its purest form is gone! Even hurling & football All Irl's can only be won by counties with deep pockets. #elite #amateurmyarse
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

AZOffaly

Duignan might be reconsidering the notion today after Rynaghs won again in Offaly. First time in 20 years or so I'd say.

seafoid

Quote from: AZOffaly on October 24, 2016, 08:24:26 AM
Duignan might be reconsidering the notion today after Rynaghs won again in Offaly. First time in 20 years or so I'd say.
That must have gone down very well in Banagher.
Where do they say "that  beats Banagher" ?

It good to see things going well for him again cos he must have had a very tough time after his wife died
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Lone Shark

Quote from: seafoid on October 24, 2016, 10:44:01 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 24, 2016, 08:24:26 AM
Duignan might be reconsidering the notion today after Rynaghs won again in Offaly. First time in 20 years or so I'd say.
That must have gone down very well in Banagher.
Where do they say "that  beats Banagher" ?

It good to see things going well for him again cos he must have had a very tough time after his wife died

Great day for him all round - he managed Ballinamere/Durrow to win the minor title on the same day, with his sons both involved. His elder son Seán lifted the cup as captain. He was also sent off to the terrace from the dugout during the game, and was presented to the crowd as part of the 1991 Offaly NHL winning team.

Busy day for Michael!

Michael Schmeichal

#157
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 21, 2016, 12:16:10 AM
Anyone know the number of paid full-time GPOs/GDAs Dublin have and how many the other counties have?

Dublin have between 45-50 full tome GPO's. The clubs they work for pay half their salary. The County Board pay the other half.

Dinny Breen

Good to see all that money going so well on game promotion and development of players

http://otoolesgac.ie/2016/11/07/senior-hurlers-wanted/

then as someone stated perhaps that money is only about developing elite players and not keeping kids in the game.

That advert is more akin to Senior Rugby than GAA.
#newbridgeornowhere

OgraAnDun

Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 10, 2016, 02:38:27 PM
Good to see all that money going so well on game promotion and development of players

http://otoolesgac.ie/2016/11/07/senior-hurlers-wanted/

then as someone stated perhaps that money is only about developing elite players and not keeping kids in the game.

That advert is more akin to Senior Rugby than GAA.

They're probably trying to attract culchies moving to Dublin and looking for a club?

Dinny Breen

Why? They had a winning season, amazing facilities, why not promote from within? Why are the GAA spending millions on Dublin GAA developing players if they are actively trying to recruit players, not even players moving locally but "The North Side". What happens to the local player he replaces?
#newbridgeornowhere

rodney trotter

3 non Dubs transferred to St Vincents at the start of the year. They were current or former county players. Enda Varley being one of them. Brendan Egan joined a few years ago

They are a strong enough club as it is. There should be a restriction on amount of non dub players on their club teams

mup

Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 10, 2016, 03:06:35 PM
Why? They had a winning season, amazing facilities, why not promote from within? Why are the GAA spending millions on Dublin GAA developing players if they are actively trying to recruit players, not even players moving locally but "The North Side". What happens to the local player he replaces?

Be prepared for the backlash with the focus on a certain Cavan hurler.

Lar Naparka

Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 10, 2016, 02:38:27 PM
Good to see all that money going so well on game promotion and development of players

http://otoolesgac.ie/2016/11/07/senior-hurlers-wanted/

then as someone stated perhaps that money is only about developing elite players and not keeping kids in the game.

That advert is more akin to Senior Rugby than GAA.
That's very true and it's disappointing to say the least, that the CC and the Dublin CB haven't recognised the fact.
I'm not being anti-Dub here but there are facts that shouldn't be ignored. The superclub system that operates widely in Dublin is great for coaching elite players and bringing them through to senior level but this "success" comes at a hefty price.
Just compare County Cavan with Finglas, a suburb in  Dublin.


According to the last census returns, Cavan has a population of 76,000.
According to local garda sources, the K district, covering Finglas, Cabra and Blanchardstown has roughly the same amount.
The Cavan GAA site says the number of clubs in Cavan is 41.
The number of clubs in Finglas is one.
There is a slight overlap with St Brigid's in Castleknock but to all intents and purposes, Erin's Isle is the only GAA club that matters in Finglas. (There is another small junior club, St Joseph's,and there is the Pavee Gaels club that caters exclusively for the Travelling community.


So one club in Finglas compared to 41 in Cavan.


In fairness to Isles, the club has good contacts with the Primary schools in the area and draws all its juvenile members from those schools but in recent times the number of males teaching at this level is dropping sharply and so is the commitment to Gaelic games.
Isles only gets a small percentage of potential juvenile players in its catchment area and the vast majority of those who join will either leave as they get older or are dropped due to a shortage of teams as the age level increases.
Soccer, by comparison, has Tolka Rovers, roughly equal in size to Isles and there are (at least) 14 other clubs in the general Finglas area.
No problem guessing what the dominant sport in this area is.
I have had associations with Isles going back many years and I have nothing but praise for their underage structures and the volunteers who look after teams but they are not winning the hearts and minds of the ordinary public and there are many other clubs in Isles' position throughout County Dublin.
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: Lar Naparka on November 11, 2016, 01:58:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 10, 2016, 02:38:27 PM
Good to see all that money going so well on game promotion and development of players

http://otoolesgac.ie/2016/11/07/senior-hurlers-wanted/

then as someone stated perhaps that money is only about developing elite players and not keeping kids in the game.

That advert is more akin to Senior Rugby than GAA.
That's very true and it's disappointing to say the least, that the CC and the Dublin CB haven't recognised the fact.
I'm not being anti-Dub here but there are facts that shouldn't be ignored. The superclub system that operates widely in Dublin is great for coaching elite players and bringing them through to senior level but this "success" comes at a hefty price.
Just compare County Cavan with Finglas, a suburb in  Dublin.


According to the last census returns, Cavan has a population of 76,000.
According to local garda sources, the K district, covering Finglas, Cabra and Blanchardstown has roughly the same amount.
The Cavan GAA site says the number of clubs in Cavan is 41.
The number of clubs in Finglas is one.
There is a slight overlap with St Brigid's in Castleknock but to all intents and purposes, Erin's Isle is the only GAA club that matters in Finglas. (There is another small junior club, St Joseph's,and there is the Pavee Gaels club that caters exclusively for the Travelling community.


So one club in Finglas compared to 41 in Cavan.


In fairness to Isles, the club has good contacts with the Primary schools in the area and draws all its juvenile members from those schools but in recent times the number of males teaching at this level is dropping sharply and so is the commitment to Gaelic games.
Isles only gets a small percentage of potential juvenile players in its catchment area and the vast majority of those who join will either leave as they get older or are dropped due to a shortage of teams as the age level increases.
Soccer, by comparison, has Tolka Rovers, roughly equal in size to Isles and there are (at least) 14 other clubs in the general Finglas area.
No problem guessing what the dominant sport in this area is.
I have had associations with Isles going back many years and I have nothing but praise for their underage structures and the volunteers who look after teams but they are not winning the hearts and minds of the ordinary public and there are many other clubs in Isles' position throughout County Dublin.
GAA should be about providing games for as many people as possible

super clubs don't do that