Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?

Started by seafoid, November 24, 2017, 08:27:21 AM

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Syferus

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Quote from: seafoid on November 26, 2017, 03:25:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 26, 2017, 03:13:14 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 26, 2017, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 26, 2017, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 26, 2017, 06:20:52 AM
The Torygraph says the Fitzgerald thing might weaken Ireland in Brexit discussions
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/25/irish-political-crisis-pms-political-firestorm-could-weaken/

It is subscription but the idea is straightforward.
The best chance in over 50 years to weaken Unionism. And FF would do this . FFS.

Brexit talks will stumble on for far, far longer than an election would take. There really isn't much difference between an election now or in six months.

This phase of Brexit talks, scheduled to end in December, is the point of maximum Irish influence and the key moment with regards to a border/no border in the event of the UK leaving the common market.

There's probably going to be a border of some form whether we stick election posters up or not next month. The idea that this materially effects those discussions is column inch filler and little else. This was always a fragile arrangement.
That''s like saying it doesn't matter if f the full back line have their eye on the ball when it arrives in from midfield. Politics is about timing

Barring the UK offering a sweetheart deal, and with the DUP having them by the balls that's extremely unlikely, what magic do you think would be happening next month without an election? Because the supernatural is about the only thing that will make a difference.

LooseCannon

Quote from: seafoid on November 26, 2017, 06:14:16 AM
Sinn Féin have eaten into the working class vote of FF.
FF is like Dunnes Stores. SF is like Aldi plus Lidl.

The country is polarised.


Farmers with more than 100 acres, people with v neck jumpers, golf club members, professionals, club Rossie  types- FG
People who envy golf club members - FF
Working class persons, people who actually get up early,  people who want to nationalise golf clubs -SF
Lower grade civil servants who don't play golf but know how to organise-  Labour

Any SF that has ever called to my house weren't workers, in actual fact they were more than happy to mope about in their tracksuits all day long. So to say that SF voters are people who get up early, well that's complete BS.



Esmarelda

Quote from: seafoid on November 26, 2017, 06:14:16 AM
Sinn Féin have eaten into the working class vote of FF.
FF is like Dunnes Stores. SF is like Aldi plus Lidl.

The country is polarised.


Farmers with more than 100 acres, people with v neck jumpers, golf club members, professionals, club Rossie  types- FG
People who envy golf club members - FF
Working class persons, people who actually get up early,  people who want to nationalise golf clubs -SF
Lower grade civil servants who don't play golf but know how to organise-  Labour
Which category to do the majority of the 35% odd that don't vote fall into?

Syferus

Quote from: Esmarelda on November 26, 2017, 05:29:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 26, 2017, 06:14:16 AM
Sinn Féin have eaten into the working class vote of FF.
FF is like Dunnes Stores. SF is like Aldi plus Lidl.

The country is polarised.


Farmers with more than 100 acres, people with v neck jumpers, golf club members, professionals, club Rossie  types- FG
People who envy golf club members - FF
Working class persons, people who actually get up early,  people who want to nationalise golf clubs -SF
Lower grade civil servants who don't play golf but know how to organise-  Labour
Which category to do the majority of the 35% odd that don't vote fall into?

Dole/kids who don't yet realise voting matters.

LooseCannon

Quote from: Syferus on November 26, 2017, 06:04:29 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on November 26, 2017, 05:29:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 26, 2017, 06:14:16 AM
Sinn Féin have eaten into the working class vote of FF.
FF is like Dunnes Stores. SF is like Aldi plus Lidl.

The country is polarised.


Farmers with more than 100 acres, people with v neck jumpers, golf club members, professionals, club Rossie  types- FG
People who envy golf club members - FF
Working class persons, people who actually get up early,  people who want to nationalise golf clubs -SF
Lower grade civil servants who don't play golf but know how to organise-  Labour
Which category to do the majority of the 35% odd that don't vote fall into?

Dole/kids who don't yet realise voting matters.

Doles generally vote for the shinners. That's the case where I live. They even canvass for them.

Syferus

Quote from: LooseCannon on November 26, 2017, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 26, 2017, 06:04:29 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on November 26, 2017, 05:29:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 26, 2017, 06:14:16 AM
Sinn Féin have eaten into the working class vote of FF.
FF is like Dunnes Stores. SF is like Aldi plus Lidl.

The country is polarised.


Farmers with more than 100 acres, people with v neck jumpers, golf club members, professionals, club Rossie  types- FG
People who envy golf club members - FF
Working class persons, people who actually get up early,  people who want to nationalise golf clubs -SF
Lower grade civil servants who don't play golf but know how to organise-  Labour
Which category to do the majority of the 35% odd that don't vote fall into?

Dole/kids who don't yet realise voting matters.

Doles generally vote for the shinners. That's the case where I live. They even canvass for them.

I'm sure they canvass for it but a lot at that level don't care to vote in the first place. I have no respect for people who choose to not vote but still bitch and whine about x, y and z being wrong in the country.

mrhardyannual

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2017/1127/923103-costello-high-court/

Joe Costello (Lab) seeks to prohibit an election being held before constituency revisions adopted

Boycey


LooseCannon


Farrandeelin

Assuming there is an election, when will it be?
Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

Orchard park

Christ Fitzgerald has zero credibility left, shoukd be dumped for stupidity as well as misinformation

Avondhu star

Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

balladmaker

QuoteAssuming there is an election, when will it be?

December 21st.  But I'd be expecting to awake to news tomorrow that she's done the honourable thing and resigned.

Mayo Border

Quote from: balladmaker on November 28, 2017, 12:29:36 AM
QuoteAssuming there is an election, when will it be?

December 21st.  But I'd be expecting to awake to news tomorrow that she's done the honourable thing and resigned.
But Leo has defended her through the whole episode when her position is now exposed as untenable. Surely Leo's ass is also now in the bacon slicer

Orchard park

Quote from: Mayo Border on November 28, 2017, 01:12:28 AM
Quote from: balladmaker on November 28, 2017, 12:29:36 AM
QuoteAssuming there is an election, when will it be?

December 21st.  But I'd be expecting to awake to news tomorrow that she's done the honourable thing and resigned.
But Leo has defended her through the whole episode when her position is now exposed as untenable. Surely Leo's ass is also now in the bacon slicer

amidst all his spin, smile and tweeting he seems to have forgotten the survival instincts of all leaders that there is always a bus to throw somebody else under, went out on a limb on this one and could come unstuck