Clerical abuse!

Started by D4S, May 20, 2009, 05:09:14 PM

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We all know this disgusting scandal is as a result of The Church and The State, but who do you hold mostly accountable, and should therefore pay out the most in compensation to victims?

The State
The Church
Split 50/50

dec

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/dromore-priest-steps-aside-pending-psni-investigation-1.3502017

The Catholic Diocese of Dromore has said it is cooperating fully with a PSNI investigation into an historical safeguarding allegation against a priest.
Canon Francis Brown has "voluntarily stepped aside from all public ministry" while the allegation was being investigated by officers, the diocese said.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/northern-ireland-priest-unaware-of-details-of-safeguarding-allegation-made-against-him-36927442.html

On Sunday a statement was released on behalf of Canon Brown, administrator of the Newry parish. He said: "I have been informed by Bishop Philip Boyce, the Apostolic Administrator for the Diocese, that an allegation of an historic nature has been made against me. The details of the allegation have not so far been made known to either myself or The Diocese.
"The complaint has been made recently and I understand that some time is required to have it investigated. "Naturally, I have agreed therefore to step aside from my role as Administrator of the Parish for the time being to allow the investigation to be completed.
"In accordance with the agreed protocol I shall not be involved in ministry during that period of time. I wish to reassure all of my parishioners, my fellow priests, deacon and religious that I look forward to a thorough and expeditious examination of this matter and I expect to return to my work in the parish in the near future.
"I hope that you will remember me in your thoughts and prayers in the weeks ahead and I look forward to returning soon to again serve you in the Parish of Newry."

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-44190496

A priest based in Newry, County Down, has confirmed he has stepped aside from public ministry while a historical allegation against him is investigated.
Canon Francis Brown, administrator of Newry Cathedral Parish, has issued statement saying he expects to return to work when the investigation is over.
Earlier, the PSNI said they were investigating "an historical allegation of abuse against a member of clergy in the Diocese of Dromore". The complaint was made in April.
Canon Brown is originally from Hilltown, County Down. He is a former president of St Colman's College, a boy's secondary school in Newry.

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: dec on March 22, 2018, 06:45:13 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 22, 2018, 06:19:00 PM
I see on the news another ex st Colmans teacher Patrick carton was found guilty of indecent assaults on students on occasions as recently as 2007.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-43500697

13 years in jail

dec

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/05/24/news/concerns-raised-over-how-catholic-diocese-of-dromore-handled-allegation-made-against-newry-cathedral-administrator-1337041/

CONCERNS have been raised over how the Catholic diocese of Dromore has handled an allegation made against the administrator of Newry Cathedral. It was revealed last weekend that Canon Francis Brown had stepped aside from public ministry while the allegation against him was investigated. However, it was claimed today that the priest remained in ministry in the diocese for six weeks after being made aware of the accusation.

The Nolan Show on BBC Radio Ulster reported Canon Brown was told about the allegation by a member of the public at the beginning of March 2018 and again a number of weeks later. It was reported he refused to make his diocese aware of the allegation and said it was not his responsibility to refer himself to Church authorities. However, diocesan guidelines state when someone makes a complaint they should be provided with contact details of the designated liaison person as the disclosing person may wish to ask questions later.

While the nature of the allegation had been previously unclear, the Nolan Show claimed it had spoken to the alleged victim who said it was a "sexual abuse allegation" and relates to a period when the priest was in St Colman's College, Newry.

In a statemen the Dromore diocese said it was aware of the "suggestions and comments" made on the radio show. "The diocese also wishes to clarify that Canon Brown was advised of an allegation and agreed to step aside from all ministry within the diocese and associated bodies," it said. "While he may currently be named on some school websites as a member of the safeguarding team he has voluntarily stepped aside from all ministry and such publications are under revision. "This status will remain while the police investigation is ongoing."

It was also reported the priest continues to be listed as a contact for safeguarding issues for schools in the parish. But a CCMS spokesman said Canon Brown had "stepped aside from his roles as a school governor in St Clare's Abbey Primary School, Newry and St Joseph's High School, Newry" pending the outcome of the police investigation. "Arrangements are being made to replace him and all school literature is being updated to reflect the new governance structures at both schools." A solicitor for Canon Brown said he "categorically asserts that he has never at any time behaved inappropriately to any child or adult". "Police have not asked to meet with Canon Brown and, if they do make such a request, he will co-operate fully with them in any investigation which they undertake," they added.

dec

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/ex-school-principal-goes-on-trial-for-sexual-abuse-of-nine-boys-1.3526723

A former primary school principal is to stand trial accused of sexual offences against nine boys, a judge ordered on Monday. Christian Brother Paul Dunleavy appeared before Belfast Magistrates' Court to face a total of 41 charges. The 82-year-old, with an address at the Province Centre, Griffith Avenue in Dublin, allegedly committed multiple counts of indecent assault and gross indecency towards a child. He is also accused of attempted buggery and inciting gross indecency. The charges span a ten-year period between 1969 and 1978. At the time, he taught at the now-closed St Colman's Abbey Primary School in Newry.

During a preliminary enquiry hearing he confirmed that he understood the allegations against him. Prosecutors submitted that he had a prima facie case to answer. District Judge Fiona Bagnall granted an application to have the accused returned for Crown Court trial on a date to be fixed, the Courts Service confirmed. He was released on continuing bail of £500 until those proceedings get underway.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-44442063

A former headmaster of a Newry primary school has appeared in court charged with 41 sexual offences against children. Christian Brother Paul Dunleavy, 82, with an address at the Province Centre on Dublin's Griffith Avenue, appeared in Laganside Magistrates' Court. The charges relate to the 1960s and 70s when Br Dunleavy was a teacher at St Colman's Abbey Primary School in Newry. They include accusations from nine boys. He was released on £500 bail.

The school closed in 2014 when it was merged with another school in the city. At Monday's brief hearing, Br Dunleavy confirmed that he understood the nature of the charges against him.

Gabriel_Hurl

300 priests - 1000+victims - been happening 70+ years

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/us/pennsylvania-catholic-church-grand-jury/index.html

Quote(CNN)A new grand jury report says that internal documents from six Catholic dioceses in Pennsylvania show that more than 300 "predator priests" have been credibly accused of sexually abusing more than 1,000 child victims.

"We believe that the real number of children whose records were lost or who were afraid ever to come forward is in the thousands," the grand jury report says.

"Priests were raping little boys and girls, and the men of God who were responsible for them not only did nothing; they hid it all. For decades. Monsignors, auxiliary bishops, bishops, archbishops, cardinals have mostly been protected; many, including some named in this report, have been promoted. Until that changes, we think it is too early to close the book on the Catholic Church sex scandal."

The lengthy report, released Tuesday afternoon, investigates clergy sexual abuse in six dioceses dating back to 1947. Pennsylvania's two other dioceses, Philadelphia and Altoona-Johnstown, were the subjects of earlier grand jury reports, which found similarly damaging information about clergy and bishops in those dioceses.

gallsman

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 14, 2018, 09:59:39 PM
300 priests - 1000+victims - been happening 70+ years

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/us/pennsylvania-catholic-church-grand-jury/index.html

Quote(CNN)A new grand jury report says that internal documents from six Catholic dioceses in Pennsylvania show that more than 300 "predator priests" have been credibly accused of sexually abusing more than 1,000 child victims.

"We believe that the real number of children whose records were lost or who were afraid ever to come forward is in the thousands," the grand jury report says.

"Priests were raping little boys and girls, and the men of God who were responsible for them not only did nothing; they hid it all. For decades. Monsignors, auxiliary bishops, bishops, archbishops, cardinals have mostly been protected; many, including some named in this report, have been promoted. Until that changes, we think it is too early to close the book on the Catholic Church sex scandal."

The lengthy report, released Tuesday afternoon, investigates clergy sexual abuse in six dioceses dating back to 1947. Pennsylvania's two other dioceses, Philadelphia and Altoona-Johnstown, were the subjects of earlier grand jury reports, which found similarly damaging information about clergy and bishops in those dioceses.

Another tough read.

ONeill

"Also in Allentown, a priest who had abused several boys, according to the grand jury, was given a recommendation to work at Disney World."
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Hereiam


Evil Genius

Quote from: Hereiam on September 12, 2018, 10:17:35 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45500072

What are other countries not tellin
(Flying visit, so no time to dwell on this, but)
Heard this on the radio this morning:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bh5x24

Shocking.
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

Owen Brannigan

Former priest sentenced to 200 hours community service for indecently assaulting a boy

Downpatrick Court heard on Thursday morning that it was Curran's sixth conviction for abusing children.

What sort of community work should a paedophile be asked or allowed to do?

Surely this is case for appeal by Public Prosecution Service.

https://www.itv.com/news/utv/2018-09-20/former-priest-sentenced-to-200-hours-community-work-for-indecently-assaulting-a-boy/



take_yer_points

Fr Gerard McAleer I believe...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45779109

A parish priest in the Archdiocese of Armagh has stood aside from his position due to concerns brought to the Diocese and reported to the Gardaí.

A statement from the Catholic Church was issued on Sunday afternoon.

It said the information received is historical and relates to a time prior to the man's ordination as a priest.

The statement added that the relevant statutory authorities in Northern Ireland have been informed.

sid waddell

Quote from: take_yer_points on October 07, 2018, 10:03:49 PM
Fr Gerard McAleer I believe...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45779109

A parish priest in the Archdiocese of Armagh has stood aside from his position due to concerns brought to the Diocese and reported to the Gardaí.

A statement from the Catholic Church was issued on Sunday afternoon.

It said the information received is historical and relates to a time prior to the man's ordination as a priest.

The statement added that the relevant statutory authorities in Northern Ireland have been informed.

Time for Mickey Harte to dust off the old character reference...

dec

Quote from: take_yer_points on October 07, 2018, 10:03:49 PM
Fr Gerard McAleer I believe...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45779109

A parish priest in the Archdiocese of Armagh has stood aside from his position due to concerns brought to the Diocese and reported to the Gardaí.

A statement from the Catholic Church was issued on Sunday afternoon.

It said the information received is historical and relates to a time prior to the man's ordination as a priest. The statement added that the relevant statutory authorities in Northern Ireland have been informed.

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/10/07/news/parish-priest-and-former-long-time-tyrone-gaa-coach-fr-gerard-mcaleer-steps-aside-from-parish-role-after-historical-complaint-1452332/

A PARISH priest and former long-time coach with Tyrone GAA has stepped down from his parish role following a historical complaint. Fr Gerard McAleer, the PP of Donaghmore, has voluntarily stood aside following concerns relating to a time "prior to his ordination as a priest".
It is believed that Fr McAleer was ordained in the early 1980s.

The Tyrone priest is also well-known in education and sporting circles. A former principal of St Brigid's High School in Armagh and St Patrick's Academy in Dungannon, he was a close companion of Mickey Harte throughout many of Tyrone GAA's successes over recent decades.

The pair took over the county's minor side in 1991 and Fr McAleer served as assistant manager when Tyrone landed its first ever All-Ireland senior football title in 2003. Fr McAleer, believed to be in his early 60s, became parish priest in Donaghmore in the same year.

Parishioners in Donaghmore and neighbouring Galbally were informed of the news in an announcement read at Masses at the weekend. It is understood that Fr McAleer celebrated morning Mass in Donaghmore on Saturday but was not present for the vigil Mass later that evening.

The parish lies within the Archdiocese of Armagh, which released a statement but declined to name either the priest or the parish concerned. The Archbishop of Armagh is Eamon Martin, who as the Primate of All-Ireland is the head of the Catholic Church in Ireland.
The Archdiocese said that the priest had "voluntarily stood aside from his position because of concerns brought to the Diocese and reported to the Gardaí".
"The information received is historic and relates to a time prior to his time in ministry in the Archdiocese, and indeed prior to his ordination as a priest. The relevant statutory authorities in Northern Ireland have been informed."
The statement added that Archbishop Martin has appealed for prayers for all concerned while "stressing that the priest continues to be entitled to the natural right of every person to the presumption of innocence pending the completion of all relevant state and Church processes."

Gardai did not respond to requests for a comment

southtyronegael

hartes buddies starting to drop like flys. first bishop mc areavey now mc aleer.

bennydorano

Not a very likeable person from my own personal experiences in St Pats Armagh. Didnt strike me as very Christian.