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By the same token then, does that that mean that a school that does not acknowledge the unionist / British tradition in Ireland is also not integrated in any meaningful sense of the word?

How on earth could they not acknowledge the British in Ireland when the Queen's head is on every coin spent in the tuckshop?

If they want to play Gaelic games they will at the club,

A school that has no Gaelic games, no Irish language etc is not integrated in any meaningful sense of the word (and of course real integrated schools have these things).  It is no use talking about schools that did not play soccer, everyone at that school had exposure to soccer and played in the school yard. It is no good talking about rugby schools, if Rockwell College does not have gaelic games it does not mean that its pupils do not know about them.

with no exposure whatsoever to any form of Irish culture.

Exactly. Leaving religion out of it, the State school sector in NI sees its role as promoting colonialism.

No. That's one of the few arguments in their favour.

And their fans see this as the objective of such schools.

Can anyone identify a single state school in the 6 counties where Gaelic games are played?

What is it with you Armagh folk and getting your dates mixed up

Getting your dates mixed up is still better than getting your wires crossed.

Integrated schooling is a really nice concept but it would never work. For a start it would never be allowed to happen. I went to school in Newry, I'd like to see them explain how this would work for the four Catholic grammar schools there.


Would you agree that religion should be taught at home?

I'm sure everyone thinks religion should be taught at home, the question is whether it should be taught at school.

As for Fitzroyalty's point, where you have areas where most people are of one side or the other then schools will reflect that.

If you show up positive on the bag you have to go to the station to get a proper, quantitatively measurable blood or urine test.

Do they not also have evidential calibrated breathalsyers in the station? The ones in the car are a guideline only

I didn't think you could refuse to be breathalysed.

She probably wasn't very drunk. Heading back to the station to give a sample would delay things a bit and might make just get you back under the limit or in a lower category.

What has the wrong turn got to do with anything?

It couldn't have been a U-turn, otherwise you'd have to arrest all politicians.

Re the All Ireland poll and interesing post on Politics.ie. It seems that the NI tickers on the census form probably vote nationalist.
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I analysed the census data of 2011 and correlated it with the NI election results to get a more accurate breakdown of the figures specifically in relation to the "northern Irish only" percentage, these are the areas i have completed so far. i think the figures demonstrate that practically all of the people who choose the "northern irish only" option must come exclusively from the nationalist catholic demographic as it is the only way that the numbers fit with the election results on the other side the "british only" and "british and NI" or "british and irish" etc options correlate with the entire protestant community and fits perfectly into the election results. Also the term irish/northern irish is present to a not insignificant degree in the the total perentage generated for the protestant communty.

Newry and Morne
79.4% catholic
18% protestant
100%= 29 seats
Nationalist = 23 seats =79.3%
Unionist = 5 seats = 17.2%

census 2011
Irish only 49.75% Irish and northern Irish only (I+NI) 1.74% and northern Irish (NI) only 23.1% =74.59%
british only 16.87 + British and NI (B+NI) only 2.11= 18.98%


Down district Council
62.5% catholic
32.1% protestant
seats 23
Nationalist seats= 14 = 60.86 %
Unionist seats = 6 = 28.57%

census 2011
British only = 33.06% + british and NI only 4.27% = 37.33%
Irish only 28.22% , NI only 26.98%, I+NI 1.37 = 56.57 %


Dungannon and South tyrone
Catholic 64.1%
Protestant 33%
22 seats
Nationalist = 12 = 54.54%
Unionist 10= 45.45%

Census 2011
Irish only 35.68 % I+ NI only = 1.32%, NI only = 21.96% = 58.96%
British only 26.51%,, B+NI only 3.06%, B+NI+I= 0.55%= 30.12%

Ballymena
Catholic 22.6%
Protestant 71.4%
seats 24
Nationalist = 4 = 16.6%
Unionist = 16= 66.6%

Census 2011
British only = 57.87% + british and NI only= 8.96% = 66.83%
Irish only= 8.81% + I=NI only = 0.58%, NI only 17.2%= 26.59%


Fermanagh District Council

Catholic 59.2%
Protestant 37.8%
seats 23
Nationalist = 13 = 56.52%
Unionist =10= 43.4%

Census 2011
Irish only = 33.39 % , I+NI only = 1.12%, NI only = 23.94%= 58.45%
British only 31.92 %, British + NI =3.7% = 35.62%

Coleraine
Catholic 28%
Protestant 65.3
seats 22
Unionist =14 = 63.6%
Nationalist = 5 = 22.72%

census 2011

british only 51.43 + B+NI only = 8.22 + B=I + NI =1.27 = 60.92%
Irish only = 11.47, NI only 21.03, I+NI = .76 = 33.26%

Armagh City

48.4% catholic
48% protestant
seats 22
nationalist = 11 = 50%
unionist =11 = 50%

census 2011

british only 37.68% , British and Ni only 5.17%, B+I+NI =0.65%= 43.5%
Irish only = 29.91%, NI only 20.16%, I+NI=0.93% = 51.1%


Strabane

Catholic 64.9%
Protestant 33.7%
seats 14
Nationalist= 9= 64.28
Unionist = 5= 35.7%

census 2011
Irish only 36.81%, NI only, 26.55%, I+NI only= 1.25= 64.61%
british only 28.41%, B+NI only= 3.37%, B+I+NI =0.47% = 32.25%



Magherfelt District

Catholic 66%
Protestant 31.5%
seats = 16
Nationalist = 11 = 68.75%
Unionist= 5 = 31.25%

Census
Irish only = 39.31%, NI only= 23.94%, I+NI only 1.88= 65.13%
british only = 26.74%, B+NI = 3.27%, B+I+NI=0.5%= 30.51%

As I see it, their policy 'towards' the north is dictated by the day-to-day situations they find themselves in as they govern up there. They have a pragmatic attitude towards the short-term improvement of a) public services; b) community and political relations; c) equality in all aspects of culture & society; and d) job creation. Their long-term solution is no secret, and this seems to be fairly well reflected in Adams' call for a border poll last weekend

In order for Adams border poll to work, then public expenditure in NI must be reduced and tax income must be increased.
What policies (notwithstanding any lack of fiscal control) do SF have to
- reduce NI public expenditure?
- increase NI tax take?

Will both anthems be played before the game?

Armagh has adopted "By the shores of Lough Neagh" to the tune of "Oben am jungen Rhein".

This group of young Cullyhanna residents are getting their flegs out for the trip to Maryborough.

this is an excellent thread
some of the previous works http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=7501.165

it seems you don't have to do a photography course to be brilliant
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/photographer-is-architect-of-his-own-success-16266768.html

Why oh why did they have cash deliveries organised at the same time every week in this Credit Union?

it wasn't a delivery, it was the closing time of the CU when someone would have been going to the bank night safe.