Doire v Tir Eoghain, Celtic Park, Sat 1st Feb & on Setanta Sports 1

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Lafferty opted out to concentrate on his studies.

[clarshack]

that's an ordinary enough tyrone team tbh. wouldnt be confident of beating derry in celtic park with that starting 15.

[nrico2006]

that's an ordinary enough tyrone team tbh. wouldnt be confident of beating derry in celtic park with that 15.

Dunno how it can be classed as ordinary when its effectively the new generation coming through and is filled with youth.  The majority of them are unproven at senior level but have had major success at underage level.  Im glad that Harte is giving them the game time as the more they play and play together at this level then the quicker they will find their feet and excel, something which I am confident they will do.  Harte did the same back in 2000 to 2003 in the league, and it took a lot of games for the like of Mulligan, SON, BMG etc to relaly find their feet and stand out.

[J OGorman]

that's an ordinary enough tyrone team tbh. wouldnt be confident of beating derry in celtic park with that 15.

Dunno how it can be classed as ordinary when its effectively the new generation coming through and is filled with youth.  The majority of them are unproven at senior level but have had major success at underage level.  Im glad that Harte is giving them the game time as the more they play and play together at this level then the quicker they will find their feet and excel, something which I am confident they will do.  Harte did the same back in 2000 to 2003 in the league, and it took a lot of games for the like of Mulligan, SON, BMG etc to relaly find their feet and stand out.

in terms of a team being rated, say poor / ordinary / good, I'd say ordinary is decent in terms of a description of this Tyrone team. You cant class them as poor and they havent done (had time) to do enough to be described as good

You're fierce sensitive  / confident when it comes to Tyrone. Be nice if Derry tanked you bucks the mora night. Paypacket spent on new Rocksolid denims and no points :-)

[Walter Cronc]

that's an ordinary enough tyrone team tbh. wouldnt be confident of beating derry in celtic park with that 15.

Dunno how it can be classed as ordinary when its effectively the new generation coming through and is filled with youth.  The majority of them are unproven at senior level but have had major success at underage level.  Im glad that Harte is giving them the game time as the more they play and play together at this level then the quicker they will find their feet and excel, something which I am confident they will do.  Harte did the same back in 2000 to 2003 in the league, and it took a lot of games for the like of Mulligan, SON, BMG etc to relaly find their feet and stand out.

Errr Harte took charge in 2003 and even the most optimistic Tyrone fan surely doesn't think this crop are anywhere near the level of the aforementioned.

[nrico2006]

that's an ordinary enough tyrone team tbh. wouldnt be confident of beating derry in celtic park with that 15.

Dunno how it can be classed as ordinary when its effectively the new generation coming through and is filled with youth.  The majority of them are unproven at senior level but have had major success at underage level.  Im glad that Harte is giving them the game time as the more they play and play together at this level then the quicker they will find their feet and excel, something which I am confident they will do.  Harte did the same back in 2000 to 2003 in the league, and it took a lot of games for the like of Mulligan, SON, BMG etc to relaly find their feet and stand out.

Errr Harte took charge in 2003 and even the most optimistic Tyrone fan surely doesn't think this crop are anywhere near the level of the aforementioned.

Yes he did, but my point was that from 2000 on there was a plethora of the underage stars who were given a lot of game time in order to get comfortable at that level.  Its ok looking back now and knowing how good Steven O'Neill, Brian McGuigan, Mulligan became, but at the turn of the century they were in the same boat as a lot of the younger players coming through now.  They all have experienced similar levels of success, and who can say that in ten years time people won't be talking about Ronan O'Neill, Shay McGuigan, Peter Harte, Conan Grugan etc.

[Walter Cronc]

that's an ordinary enough tyrone team tbh. wouldnt be confident of beating derry in celtic park with that 15.

Dunno how it can be classed as ordinary when its effectively the new generation coming through and is filled with youth.  The majority of them are unproven at senior level but have had major success at underage level.  Im glad that Harte is giving them the game time as the more they play and play together at this level then the quicker they will find their feet and excel, something which I am confident they will do.  Harte did the same back in 2000 to 2003 in the league, and it took a lot of games for the like of Mulligan, SON, BMG etc to relaly find their feet and stand out.

Errr Harte took charge in 2003 and even the most optimistic Tyrone fan surely doesn't think this crop are anywhere near the level of the aforementioned.

Yes he did, but my point was that from 2000 on there was a plethora of the underage stars who were given a lot of game time in order to get comfortable at that level.  Its ok looking back now and knowing how good Steven O'Neill, Brian McGuigan, Mulligan became, but at the turn of the century they were in the same boat as a lot of the younger players coming through now.  They all have experienced similar levels of success, and who can say that in ten years time people won't be talking about Ronan O'Neill, Shay McGuigan, Peter Harte, Conan Grugan etc.

The one difference with their peers is the U21 step up. Tyrone have failed at this grade for a number of years now despite their minor success.

[nrico2006]

that's an ordinary enough tyrone team tbh. wouldnt be confident of beating derry in celtic park with that 15.

Dunno how it can be classed as ordinary when its effectively the new generation coming through and is filled with youth.  The majority of them are unproven at senior level but have had major success at underage level.  Im glad that Harte is giving them the game time as the more they play and play together at this level then the quicker they will find their feet and excel, something which I am confident they will do.  Harte did the same back in 2000 to 2003 in the league, and it took a lot of games for the like of Mulligan, SON, BMG etc to relaly find their feet and stand out.

Errr Harte took charge in 2003 and even the most optimistic Tyrone fan surely doesn't think this crop are anywhere near the level of the aforementioned.

Yes he did, but my point was that from 2000 on there was a plethora of the underage stars who were given a lot of game time in order to get comfortable at that level.  Its ok looking back now and knowing how good Steven O'Neill, Brian McGuigan, Mulligan became, but at the turn of the century they were in the same boat as a lot of the younger players coming through now.  They all have experienced similar levels of success, and who can say that in ten years time people won't be talking about Ronan O'Neill, Shay McGuigan, Peter Harte, Conan Grugan etc.

The one difference with their peers is the U21 step up. Tyrone have failed at this grade for a number of years now despite their minor success.

That would point to a problem in management as much as anything else.  Another factor I think that is overlooked often is the u-21 championship since 2005 or 2006 has been run off very early in the year in wintry conditions which suits the more physical, strong and well drilled teams as opposed to the best footballing teams.     

[Walter Cronc]

that's an ordinary enough tyrone team tbh. wouldnt be confident of beating derry in celtic park with that 15.

Dunno how it can be classed as ordinary when its effectively the new generation coming through and is filled with youth.  The majority of them are unproven at senior level but have had major success at underage level.  Im glad that Harte is giving them the game time as the more they play and play together at this level then the quicker they will find their feet and excel, something which I am confident they will do.  Harte did the same back in 2000 to 2003 in the league, and it took a lot of games for the like of Mulligan, SON, BMG etc to relaly find their feet and stand out.

Errr Harte took charge in 2003 and even the most optimistic Tyrone fan surely doesn't think this crop are anywhere near the level of the aforementioned.

Yes he did, but my point was that from 2000 on there was a plethora of the underage stars who were given a lot of game time in order to get comfortable at that level.  Its ok looking back now and knowing how good Steven O'Neill, Brian McGuigan, Mulligan became, but at the turn of the century they were in the same boat as a lot of the younger players coming through now.  They all have experienced similar levels of success, and who can say that in ten years time people won't be talking about Ronan O'Neill, Shay McGuigan, Peter Harte, Conan Grugan etc.

The one difference with their peers is the U21 step up. Tyrone have failed at this grade for a number of years now despite their minor success.

That would point to a problem in management as much as anything else.  Another factor I think that is overlooked often is the u-21 championship since 2005 or 2006 has been run off very early in the year in wintry conditions which suits the more physical, strong and well drilled teams as opposed to the best footballing teams.     

[The Trap]

Is there any chance of this game being rained off???

[God14]

Pitch inspection tomorrow morning at 9am

[Club Rossa]

Hopefully the heavens will open this weekend and we'll get a few of the more experienced boys back for the re-fixture

[theticklemister]

Hopefully the heavens will open this weekend and we'll get a few of the more experienced boys back for the re-fixture

What about the shopping trip?

[trileacman]

That would point to a problem in management as much as anything else.  Another factor I think that is overlooked often is the u-21 championship since 2005 or 2006 has been run off very early in the year in wintry conditions which suits the more physical, strong and well drilled teams as opposed to the best footballing teams.     

Dunno how you could say that. Munroe and Donnelly won the AI minor but couldn't make the respective step up when it came to U-21. They were easily the most qualified for the job at the time.

[Redhand Santa]

Hope the games goes ahead and I'm happy enough none of the older boys are back starting. The younger boys did everything asked of them in the McKenna cup and more so deserve their chance at this level. I'm looking forward to seeing how all the debutants get on and Mcbride at midfield. Also curious as to how the mattie Donnelly experiment at full forward will go.

Having said all that wouldn't be surprised if there is no game on!