Hurling 2024

Started by seafoid, January 01, 2023, 08:24:25 PM

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imtommygunn

There is a chance of a draw.

Felt the same about ref Jc. Kk wiser about playing the ref than Clare as well but Kelly shafted a couple of times. Limerick are wise to these things too. The free when tj was back in defense when he was lauded for his work rate etc wasn't a free as you say.

burdizzo

Wouldn't mind Kelly, and his histrionics. Actually, serves him right.

Jonkunlon

Clare lost by one puck of the ball.

The amount of soft frees Kilkenny got were hard to fathom. The free against Tony Kelly when the Kilkenny player slipped, the two frees TJ got in the minutes leading up to halftime, one in his attacking half (which he scored from) then the one in his own full back line, neither were frees.

Clare have a genuine grievance here. Training all year to be on the end of those decisions is hard to stomach.

Go back and watch the first free awarded in the game. The Kilkenny player twice puts his hand in the Clare defender's neck then face. That's 2 men every day of the week.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 12, 2023, 11:24:35 PM
Clare lost by one puck of the ball.

The amount of soft frees Kilkenny got were hard to fathom. The free against Tony Kelly when the Kilkenny player slipped, the two frees TJ got in the minutes leading up to halftime, one in his attacking half (which he scored from) then the one in his own full back line, neither were frees.

Clare have a genuine grievance here. Training all year to be on the end of those decisions is hard to stomach.

Go back and watch the first free awarded in the game. The Kilkenny player twice puts his hand in the Clare defender's neck then face. That's 2 men every day of the week.

Go back and watch how Clare played the game, hie the defender lost possession that led to a goal, look at the use of the sweeper. There are plenty reasons why Clare lost, blaming the ref is easy though
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marty34

Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 12, 2023, 11:24:35 PM
Clare lost by one puck of the ball.

The amount of soft frees Kilkenny got were hard to fathom. The free against Tony Kelly when the Kilkenny player slipped, the two frees TJ got in the minutes leading up to halftime, one in his attacking half (which he scored from) then the one in his own full back line, neither were frees.

Clare have a genuine grievance here. Training all year to be on the end of those decisions is hard to stomach.

Go back and watch the first free awarded in the game. The Kilkenny player twice puts his hand in the Clare defender's neck then face. That's 2 men every day of the week.

Clare have only themselves to blame.

1. Played a sweeper against KK for first half yet the went toe-to-toe with Limerick in Munster. Bad idea by Lohan.

2. Hit too many wides and from impossible angles.

3. Poor enough bench. No impact.

4. TK was poor.

5. Coughed up a handy goal.

Not the ref's fault the above happened.

Jonkunlon

Clare would have been 18-17 up ten minutes into the 2nd half only for another poor refereeing decision, that being the disallowed goal.

Clare were on fire for the first 20 minutes of the 2nd half and did take the lead, through their tactics and will to win. They went 2 up, 19-17 and were on top all over the pitch.

The one big mistake Clare made was the conceded goal. Outside of that they did little wrong.

There was one throw ball given the entire game. Who did it go against? Clare!!

Referees circling the wagons is a poor look. Show a little balance in your perspective if you want to be taken seriously.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 12, 2023, 11:59:28 PM
Clare would have been 18-17 up ten minutes into the 2nd half only for another poor refereeing decision, that being the disallowed goal.

Clare were on fire for the first 20 minutes of the 2nd half and did take the lead, through their tactics and will to win. They went 2 up, 19-17 and were on top all over the pitch.

The one big mistake Clare made was the conceded goal. Outside of that they did little wrong.

There was one throw ball given the entire game. Who did it go against? Clare!!

Referees circling the wagons is a poor look. Show a little balance in your perspective if you want to be taken seriously.

Ok should Clare player been black carded and penalty given?
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Jonkunlon

He probably should have been red carded. It was a bad slap on the hip. Body language from the ref was poor in this incident. No advantage signalled by a raised hand at all but still played advantage. Left the players bemused.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 13, 2023, 12:16:32 AM
He probably should have been red carded. It was a bad slap on the hip. Body language from the ref was poor in this incident. No advantage signalled by a raised hand at all but still played advantage. Left the players bemused.

So no biased towards Clare, it could've been ( my view was different) an easy penalty Sin bin and no one on reflection would disagree with it.

But still it's he favoured Kilkenny?

The Cats won the game in the first half, Clare came back at them and looked to be on top, boom, Kilkenny goal, job done. Bar a fantastic late save Clare could have squeezed out extra time.

The missed free from 30 meters was awful miss too, 9 wides to 5 but that must have been the ref's fault too
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Zooming around

Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 12, 2023, 11:24:35 PM
Clare lost by one puck of the ball.

The amount of soft frees Kilkenny got were hard to fathom. The free against Tony Kelly when the Kilkenny player slipped, the two frees TJ got in the minutes leading up to halftime, one in his attacking half (which he scored from) then the one in his own full back line, neither were frees.

Clare have a genuine grievance here. Training all year to be on the end of those decisions is hard to stomach.

Go back and watch the first free awarded in the game. The Kilkenny player twice puts his hand in the Clare defender's neck then face. That's 2 men every day of the week.


Clare should have had at least two black cards which would have resulted in penalties which TJ Reid would have buried plus a red card for the head high tackle on Richie Hogan but of course the ref favoured Kilkenny!!!! Take off the glasses.

mouview

Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 12, 2023, 11:59:28 PM
Clare would have been 18-17 up ten minutes into the 2nd half only for another poor refereeing decision, that being the disallowed goal.

Clare were on fire for the first 20 minutes of the 2nd half and did take the lead, through their tactics and will to win. They went 2 up, 19-17 and were on top all over the pitch.

The one big mistake Clare made was the conceded goal. Outside of that they did little wrong.

There was one throw ball given the entire game. Who did it go against? Clare!!

Referees circling the wagons is a poor look. Show a little balance in your perspective if you want to be taken seriously.

Whatever about all your other points, there can be no quibbles about the disallowed goal. The whistle clearly sounded before the ball was driven in and the KK defenders had largely stopped playing.

Jonkunlon

Quote from: Zooming around on July 13, 2023, 09:24:30 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 12, 2023, 11:24:35 PM
Clare lost by one puck of the ball.

The amount of soft frees Kilkenny got were hard to fathom. The free against Tony Kelly when the Kilkenny player slipped, the two frees TJ got in the minutes leading up to halftime, one in his attacking half (which he scored from) then the one in his own full back line, neither were frees.

Clare have a genuine grievance here. Training all year to be on the end of those decisions is hard to stomach.

Go back and watch the first free awarded in the game. The Kilkenny player twice puts his hand in the Clare defender's neck then face. That's 2 men every day of the week.


Clare should have had at least two black cards which would have resulted in penalties which TJ Reid would have buried plus a red card for the head high tackle on Richie Hogan but of course the ref favoured Kilkenny!!!! Take off the glasses.

Oh come on. Ruche Higan clearly overcarried the ball then bought that foul. The commentators all agreed on that. Red card my arse.

Jonkunlon

Quote from: mouview on July 13, 2023, 09:51:49 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 12, 2023, 11:59:28 PM
Clare would have been 18-17 up ten minutes into the 2nd half only for another poor refereeing decision, that being the disallowed goal.

Clare were on fire for the first 20 minutes of the 2nd half and did take the lead, through their tactics and will to win. They went 2 up, 19-17 and were on top all over the pitch.

The one big mistake Clare made was the conceded goal. Outside of that they did little wrong.

There was one throw ball given the entire game. Who did it go against? Clare!!

Referees circling the wagons is a poor look. Show a little balance in your perspective if you want to be taken seriously.

Whatever about all your other points, there can be no quibbles about the disallowed goal. The whistle clearly sounded before the ball was driven in and the KK defenders had largely stopped playing.

Was the wrong call though. The advantage was poorly applied as it was for the slap on the hip at the other end of the field. The Clare goal was right on the fringe of the 5 second rule. Look at the reaction of the players.

shark

Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 13, 2023, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: mouview on July 13, 2023, 09:51:49 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 12, 2023, 11:59:28 PM
Clare would have been 18-17 up ten minutes into the 2nd half only for another poor refereeing decision, that being the disallowed goal.

Clare were on fire for the first 20 minutes of the 2nd half and did take the lead, through their tactics and will to win. They went 2 up, 19-17 and were on top all over the pitch.

The one big mistake Clare made was the conceded goal. Outside of that they did little wrong.

There was one throw ball given the entire game. Who did it go against? Clare!!

Referees circling the wagons is a poor look. Show a little balance in your perspective if you want to be taken seriously.

Whatever about all your other points, there can be no quibbles about the disallowed goal. The whistle clearly sounded before the ball was driven in and the KK defenders had largely stopped playing.

Was the wrong call though. The advantage was poorly applied as it was for the slap on the hip at the other end of the field. The Clare goal was right on the fringe of the 5 second rule. Look at the reaction of the players.

And the referee. You can see on one of the replays from his facial expression that he knew he called it too early. Not allowing this to affect subsequent decisions is one of the things that sets tops refs apart from the rest. Don't think I could resist trying to even it up  ;D

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 13, 2023, 11:27:42 AM
Looked to me that he saw that ball being caught by the Kilkenny back and went to blow the whistle to call it back. As he's doing so the Kilkenny back drops the catch and of course it's put into the net. When you blow the whistle you can't unblow it.
It's unfortunate and I'm sure the referee looks back and wishes he waited but it is literally a split second decision. I wouldn't be too hard on him.

It was a 5 second decision, he could, and I know I've went well beyond 5 seconds to see how it develops but yeah, while he was actually clocked correctly, I'm sure looking back he wishes he'd have seen him drop the ball and we'd all be saying the ref was brilliant, but for now he's just a ......
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