Possible Cold war developing between US and China

Started by seafoid, May 25, 2020, 11:44:26 AM

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seafoid

Australia

https://www.ft.com/content/73c4f0b6-d5c7-47c8-b91c-8e84343dfd85

Chinese companies are increasingly questioning whether or not they are welcome here," says Warwick Smith, a former executive director of Macquarie Bank and politician. He warns that Canberra is coming under "more and more pressure" from Washington to choose the US over China and business is concerned that government's actions are causing unnecessary damage to relations with Beijing.

But Beijing has suspended imports of beef from some Australian meat processors and last week slapped tariffs of up to 80 per cent on its barley imports. Far from rescuing Canberra from its difficulties, there is growing concern that Beijing may look to exploit the country's vulnerability by targeting other important trade sectors. "If we're going to go into the biggest debt we've had in our life and then simultaneously poke our biggest provider of income in the eye, it's not necessarily the smartest thing you can do," says Mr Stokes. "If Beijing's anger is not quelled it could have catastrophic consequences for the economy."

Europe

https://www.ft.com/content/7d500105-4349-4721-b4f5-179de6a58f08

Although driven chiefly by a sense of great power rivalry with the US, much of the fallout during the coronavirus crisis has been in Europe. "They have started talking to us in a tone that they would have only used towards countries they considered small or weak," said a German diplomat. Mareike Ohlberg, a scholar at the German Marshall Fund who specialises in Chinese influence campaigns in Europe, said: "In the past, towards us, they had stressed the long-term, the positive, the constructive. It is the first time that we are seeing destructive messaging on a large scale towards Europe

GOP

https://www.mcsally.senate.gov/news/videos/watch/mcsally-were-entering-a-new-cold-war-with-china


"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

RadioGAAGAA

Who is more trustworthy?

The Chinese are certainly more predictable.
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seafoid

It would have huge implications for Brexit. In 2016 the headbangers planned to trade with both China and the US.
Power is ugly  . Just look at Irish history.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

mouview

Shouldn't you swap US for Trump in the headline?

Rossfan

This will end when the single cell organism is removed from the White House.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

BennyCake

Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 01:11:40 PM
This will end when the single cell organism is removed from the White House.

Do you think past presidents were any different? Or future presidents?

None of them are put there to look after the common man.

Rossfan

True but the current thing is a unique specimen.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Rudi

Quote from: BennyCake on May 25, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 01:11:40 PM
This will end when the single cell organism is removed from the White House.

Do you think past presidents were any different? Or future presidents?

None of them are put there to look after the common man.

Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.

grounded

Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 02:13:21 PM
True but the current thing is a unique specimen.

That he surely is, but he's only a puppet for powerful forces pushing this agenda.

BennyCake

Quote from: grounded on May 25, 2020, 02:25:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 02:13:21 PM
True but the current thing is a unique specimen.

That he surely is, but he's only a puppet for powerful forces pushing this agenda.

Exactly. He's there to serve the interests of the top 0.1%

Rossfan

Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 25, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 01:11:40 PM
This will end when the single cell organism is removed from the White House.

Do you think past presidents were any different? Or future presidents?

None of them are put there to look after the common man.

Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.
They said the same in Germany in the 1930s ;)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Rudi

Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 25, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 01:11:40 PM
This will end when the single cell organism is removed from the White House.

Do you think past presidents were any different? Or future presidents?

None of them are put there to look after the common man.

Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.
They said the same in Germany in the 1930s ;)

Is that what Karen told you :)

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.

Do you think that said states started doing better in 2018 off the election of Trump in 2016?
i usse an speelchekor

Rudi

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 25, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.

Do you think that said states started doing better in 2018 off the election of Trump in 2016?

I do, I'm talking about middle America doing better, places like New Richmond Wi, Huntsville Al etc. Wisconsin unemployment fell from 9.8 to 3.4%. Industry is booming, consequently peoples expectations are better. Don't get me wrong he's a horror show of a man, but his adminstration makes more of an interest in looking after middle America than let say Hilary would.

seafoid

Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 25, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.

Do you think that said states started doing better in 2018 off the election of Trump in 2016?



I do, I'm talking about middle America doing better, places like New Richmond Wi, Huntsville Al etc. Wisconsin unemployment fell from 9.8 to 3.4%. Industry is booming, consequently peoples expectations are better. Don't get me wrong he's a horror show of a man, but his adminstration makes more of an interest in looking after middle America than let say Hilary would.
US unemployment is shockingly high again
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU