Teachers get it handy!

[marty34]

Bit random but do teachers get paid holiday pay when off, say 2 weeks at Christmas or is it just their normal pay during holidays (when they're off)?

It's a yearly pay, paid monthly

So nothing extra then.

[Milltown Row2]

Bit random but do teachers get paid holiday pay when off, say 2 weeks at Christmas or is it just their normal pay during holidays (when they're off)?

It's a yearly pay, paid monthly

So nothing extra then.

Every month is the same, no overtime

[marty34]

Bit random but do teachers get paid holiday pay when off, say 2 weeks at Christmas or is it just their normal pay during holidays (when they're off)?

It's a yearly pay, paid monthly

So nothing extra then.

Every month is the same, no overtime

Ok. Thanks.

[Sportacus]

Teaching union leader on the radio saying 50% of schools are in the red, spending more money than they have in their budget.
So that presumably means 50% of schools are not spending more than they have coming in. How is that? 

Are some principals spending away beyond their means and others aren't? E.g holding onto staff.
Are principals given any training on finances and budgets?
Are some schools great at fundraising?
What else are the factors?

It's odd that half the schools are managing (extremely difficult no doubt), and half aren't.  Perhaps even seems unfair that one school is busting their gut to stay inside budget, and the next one is merrily running up a deficit.

[imtommygunn]

In what I work in if you're good at your job you're made a manager which is a completely different skillset. School principals are probably good at educating and then fall into a role where they need to be good at raising money. Feels like a very different skillset again...

[JimStynes]

Teaching union leader on the radio saying 50% of schools are in the red, spending more money than they have in their budget.
So that presumably means 50% of schools are not spending more than they have coming in. How is that? 

Are some principals spending away beyond their means and others aren't? E.g holding onto staff.
Are principals given any training on finances and budgets?
Are some schools great at fundraising?
What else are the factors?

It's odd that half the schools are managing (extremely difficult no doubt), and half aren't.  Perhaps even seems unfair that one school is busting their gut to stay inside budget, and the next one is merrily running up a deficit.

There are many reasons why some schools may be spending more than other schools. A younger staff means less wages. If you have a lot of EAL children then you will have more money per child to spend. Maybe there is a number of difficult children who need specialist support and that will need to come out of a budget. Schools in some areas don't get access to grants etc as they're seen to come from more affluent areas than their inner city or town counterparts. Every school is different and money needs to be spent in different ways. I have no doubt there are many principals who are more savvy with how they spend or save money but it's not just as clear cut or simple as your post suggests.

[Delgany 2nds]

One example
Two Belfast schools that are two miles from each other; The schools have approx same number of pupils / classes  and teachers.One school with significantly higher Free School Meals entitlement, it receives £100 000 more in its budget allocation than the other school.

[Milltown Row2]

My wife has a budget for printing, if she's over that budget she pays for it out of her own pocket.

She's regularly paying to print stuff as the budget given is never near enough..

Schools are fecked

[armaghniac]

Schools are fecked

The one thing that the DUP and SF can agree on is that they shouldn't spend money on education.

[Delgany 2nds]

Going by news stories this week, English schools are broke as well with SEN  spending through the roof. Scotland the biggest spenders per pupil.

Funding in NI would need to increase by £500 per pupil for schools to balance their budgets.

The thing to remember is whether a school has a deficit or not  , it's not going to close anytime soon !

[trailer]

Going by news stories this week, English schools are broke as well with SEN  spending through the roof. Scotland the biggest spenders per pupil.

Funding in NI would need to increase by £500 per pupil for schools to balance their budgets.

The thing to remember is whether a school has a deficit or not  , it's not going to close anytime soon !

Wage cuts?

[Jim Bob]

Going by news stories this week, English schools are broke as well with SEN  spending through the roof. Scotland the biggest spenders per pupil.

Funding in NI would need to increase by £500 per pupil for schools to balance their budgets.

The thing to remember is whether a school has a deficit or not  , it's not going to close anytime soon !

Wage cuts?

Dream on. Wages will be going UP !!!

[Delgany 2nds]

Going by news stories this week, English schools are broke as well with SEN  spending through the roof. Scotland the biggest spenders per pupil.

Funding in NI would need to increase by £500 per pupil for schools to balance their budgets.

The thing to remember is whether a school has a deficit or not  , it's not going to close anytime soon !

Wage cuts?

They'll be queuing up for that opportunity ...their about to get pay parity with UK ..so I'm sure it'll happen

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Going by news stories this week, English schools are broke as well with SEN  spending through the roof. Scotland the biggest spenders per pupil.

Funding in NI would need to increase by £500 per pupil for schools to balance their budgets.

The thing to remember is whether a school has a deficit or not  , it's not going to close anytime soon !

Wage cuts?

They'll be queuing up for that opportunity ...their about to get pay parity with UK ..so I'm sure it'll happen

For Christ's sake, Delgany. I appreciate you are trying to reveal the depths education has fallen to but please try to keep some standards.

[trailer]

Going by news stories this week, English schools are broke as well with SEN  spending through the roof. Scotland the biggest spenders per pupil.

Funding in NI would need to increase by £500 per pupil for schools to balance their budgets.

The thing to remember is whether a school has a deficit or not  , it's not going to close anytime soon !

Wage cuts?

They'll be queuing up for that opportunity ...their about to get pay parity with UK ..so I'm sure it'll happen

For Christ's sake, Delgany. I appreciate you are trying to reveal the depths education has fallen to but please try to keep some standards.

You gotta cut your cloth. If a business is struggling there is wage cuts across the board. Teachers need to carry some of the load here.