Teachers get it handy!

[jcpen]

It's a mental institution he should be in.

[manfromdelmonte]

Feel sorry for the lad
Dysfunctional conservative family and no real world experience after being home schooled

[imtommygunn]

Never really stood a chance with that family. I think that boy could be in prison a very very long time as he doesn't strike you as someone who would give in.

[seafoid]

The Burkes ambush Norma Foley

https://twitter.com/EnochBurke/status/1710003742479684073

[armaghniac]

Teachers in the wee six not doing so well

[tbrick18]

Teachers in the wee six not doing so well

I hadn't seen that before, but I can say that it feels about right.
My wife is a teacher now for well over 20 years. She has management points and her take home now is roughly 2k more than when she started all those years ago. Less than £200/year increase in salary.
I can say in all honesty, she has more hours to work in a week than I do.
Was recently chatting to a young lad in a tyre depot when getting a puncture fixed, he was about 21/22 and he was telling me he's taking home over £500 a week. One of the neighbours kids has a part time job in Tesco, and her hourly rate is better than what my wife earns.
I get that there isn't money in the education budget to pay them more, but the current state of things where students and early stage "non-professional" jobs (such as a tyre fitter) earn as much as if not more than a teacher of 20+ years in a management position is fundamentally wrong. I'm not suggesting that those other workers don't deserve what they are getting paid, but teachers should certainly be getting paid more.
I know of 2 young teachers who recently resigned. One of them is just looking for work in shops etc until they find their feet. The other is doing reflexology from the house 3 nights a week and making more than she was when teaching full time.

[trailer]

Striking tomorrow

[intheknowhow]

Teachers in the wee six not doing so well

I hadn't seen that before, but I can say that it feels about right.
My wife is a teacher now for well over 20 years. She has management points and her take home now is roughly 2k more than when she started all those years ago. Less than £200/year increase in salary.
I can say in all honesty, she has more hours to work in a week than I do.
Was recently chatting to a young lad in a tyre depot when getting a puncture fixed, he was about 21/22 and he was telling me he's taking home over £500 a week. One of the neighbours kids has a part time job in Tesco, and her hourly rate is better than what my wife earns.
I get that there isn't money in the education budget to pay them more, but the current state of things where students and early stage "non-professional" jobs (such as a tyre fitter) earn as much as if not more than a teacher of 20+ years in a management position is fundamentally wrong. I'm not suggesting that those other workers don't deserve what they are getting paid, but teachers should certainly be getting paid more.
I know of 2 young teachers who recently resigned. One of them is just looking for work in shops etc until they find their feet. The other is doing reflexology from the house 3 nights a week and making more than she was when teaching full time.

Ye but is it not a 10 month contract? Her hourly rate over them weeks is higher?

UK workers are guaranteed a minimum of 28 days paid leave per year. This can include bank holidays, but many employers add them on top, so employees in England get a minimum of 36 days, or 7 weeks and 1 day (more in Wales, Scotland, and NI).

Typically schools will have the following breaks:

Autumn half-term - 5 days
Christmas - 11 days (inc. three bank holidays)
May Day (bank holiday)
Spring half-term - 5 days
Easter - 10 or 11 days (inc. two bank holidays)
Summer half-term - 5 days (inc. one bank holiday)
Summer - 30 days (inc. one bank holiday)

So that makes 67 or 68 days, of which eight are bank holidays, and 28 are the same entitlement most other employees get. That leaves 30 or 31 days that are "extra." Some of those may be inset days where kids are at home, and schools closed, but teachers are still there working. The first two days of the next Summer break are inset days. This whittles the "extra" down to 28 or 29 days.

[Saffrongael]

If your wife is working 20 years and has management points she will be on north of £40k a year, not many in Tesco or anyone fitting tyres on £40k a year

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Think one of the big differences which gets ignored is the pension. Excellent pension at end of it by they sure pay for it while working. Not uncommon to see a deduction of 4/500 pm taken out. Compare this to a pension of eg tesco/tyre fitter.

Just one argument but I know what yous are saying

[Tony Baloney]

Like the nurses and doctors they just want more pay for the benefit of others. 

The public sector needs a serious thinning out but we'll never see a government tackle it properly.

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

Teachers in the wee six not doing so well

I hadn't seen that before, but I can say that it feels about right.
My wife is a teacher now for well over 20 years. She has management points and her take home now is roughly 2k more than when she started all those years ago. Less than £200/year increase in salary.
I can say in all honesty, she has more hours to work in a week than I do.
Was recently chatting to a young lad in a tyre depot when getting a puncture fixed, he was about 21/22 and he was telling me he's taking home over £500 a week. One of the neighbours kids has a part time job in Tesco, and her hourly rate is better than what my wife earns.
I get that there isn't money in the education budget to pay them more, but the current state of things where students and early stage "non-professional" jobs (such as a tyre fitter) earn as much as if not more than a teacher of 20+ years in a management position is fundamentally wrong. I'm not suggesting that those other workers don't deserve what they are getting paid, but teachers should certainly be getting paid more.
I know of 2 young teachers who recently resigned. One of them is just looking for work in shops etc until they find their feet. The other is doing reflexology from the house 3 nights a week and making more than she was when teaching full time.

Ye but is it not a 10 month contract? Her hourly rate over them weeks is higher?

UK workers are guaranteed a minimum of 28 days paid leave per year. This can include bank holidays, but many employers add them on top, so employees in England get a minimum of 36 days, or 7 weeks and 1 day (more in Wales, Scotland, and NI).

Typically schools will have the following breaks:

Autumn half-term - 5 days
Christmas - 11 days (inc. three bank holidays)
May Day (bank holiday)
Spring half-term - 5 days
Easter - 10 or 11 days (inc. two bank holidays)
Summer half-term - 5 days (inc. one bank holiday)
Summer - 30 days (inc. one bank holiday)

So that makes 67 or 68 days, of which eight are bank holidays, and 28 are the same entitlement most other employees get. That leaves 30 or 31 days that are "extra." Some of those may be inset days where kids are at home, and schools closed, but teachers are still there working. The first two days of the next Summer break are inset days. This whittles the "extra" down to 28 or 29 days.

1,265 hours a year.

[intheknowhow]

Teachers in the wee six not doing so well

I hadn't seen that before, but I can say that it feels about right.
My wife is a teacher now for well over 20 years. She has management points and her take home now is roughly 2k more than when she started all those years ago. Less than £200/year increase in salary.
I can say in all honesty, she has more hours to work in a week than I do.
Was recently chatting to a young lad in a tyre depot when getting a puncture fixed, he was about 21/22 and he was telling me he's taking home over £500 a week. One of the neighbours kids has a part time job in Tesco, and her hourly rate is better than what my wife earns.
I get that there isn't money in the education budget to pay them more, but the current state of things where students and early stage "non-professional" jobs (such as a tyre fitter) earn as much as if not more than a teacher of 20+ years in a management position is fundamentally wrong. I'm not suggesting that those other workers don't deserve what they are getting paid, but teachers should certainly be getting paid more.
I know of 2 young teachers who recently resigned. One of them is just looking for work in shops etc until they find their feet. The other is doing reflexology from the house 3 nights a week and making more than she was when teaching full time.

Ye but is it not a 10 month contract? Her hourly rate over them weeks is higher?

UK workers are guaranteed a minimum of 28 days paid leave per year. This can include bank holidays, but many employers add them on top, so employees in England get a minimum of 36 days, or 7 weeks and 1 day (more in Wales, Scotland, and NI).

Typically schools will have the following breaks:

Autumn half-term - 5 days
Christmas - 11 days (inc. three bank holidays)
May Day (bank holiday)
Spring half-term - 5 days
Easter - 10 or 11 days (inc. two bank holidays)
Summer half-term - 5 days (inc. one bank holiday)
Summer - 30 days (inc. one bank holiday)

So that makes 67 or 68 days, of which eight are bank holidays, and 28 are the same entitlement most other employees get. That leaves 30 or 31 days that are "extra." Some of those may be inset days where kids are at home, and schools closed, but teachers are still there working. The first two days of the next Summer break are inset days. This whittles the "extra" down to 28 or 29 days.

1,265 hours a year.

Exactly ........

[FermGael]

Teachers in the wee six not doing so well

I hadn't seen that before, but I can say that it feels about right.
My wife is a teacher now for well over 20 years. She has management points and her take home now is roughly 2k more than when she started all those years ago. Less than £200/year increase in salary.
I can say in all honesty, she has more hours to work in a week than I do.
Was recently chatting to a young lad in a tyre depot when getting a puncture fixed, he was about 21/22 and he was telling me he's taking home over £500 a week. One of the neighbours kids has a part time job in Tesco, and her hourly rate is better than what my wife earns.
I get that there isn't money in the education budget to pay them more, but the current state of things where students and early stage "non-professional" jobs (such as a tyre fitter) earn as much as if not more than a teacher of 20+ years in a management position is fundamentally wrong. I'm not suggesting that those other workers don't deserve what they are getting paid, but teachers should certainly be getting paid more.
I know of 2 young teachers who recently resigned. One of them is just looking for work in shops etc until they find their feet. The other is doing reflexology from the house 3 nights a week and making more than she was when teaching full time.

Ye but is it not a 10 month contract? Her hourly rate over them weeks is higher?

UK workers are guaranteed a minimum of 28 days paid leave per year. This can include bank holidays, but many employers add them on top, so employees in England get a minimum of 36 days, or 7 weeks and 1 day (more in Wales, Scotland, and NI).

Typically schools will have the following breaks:

Autumn half-term - 5 days
Christmas - 11 days (inc. three bank holidays)
May Day (bank holiday)
Spring half-term - 5 days
Easter - 10 or 11 days (inc. two bank holidays)
Summer half-term - 5 days (inc. one bank holiday)
Summer - 30 days (inc. one bank holiday)

So that makes 67 or 68 days, of which eight are bank holidays, and 28 are the same entitlement most other employees get. That leaves 30 or 31 days that are "extra." Some of those may be inset days where kids are at home, and schools closed, but teachers are still there working. The first two days of the next Summer break are inset days. This whittles the "extra" down to 28 or 29 days.

1,265 hours a year.

Catch yourself on.

Sure it's nearly Christmas .

Most of the primary ones will have Elf , the Grinch on repeat for the next three weeks .

Secondary ones have will a week of Christmas "mocks" where they get a handy wee day off and then they will hit the Christmas Netflix section.

Surprised if any of them made 1000 hours a year.

[Sportacus]

Seeking pay parity with other parts of the UK seems fair. It'd be a great career if it weren't for all the entitled parents.