The Many Faces of US Politics...

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whitey


Esmarelda

Quote from: whitey on February 11, 2018, 10:17:48 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 11, 2018, 09:36:42 AM
Maybe ye missed my post lads. Looking for the evidence that convinces you of Russian meddling. Thanks.

https://www.apnews.com/dea73efc01594839957c3c9a6c962b8a
Hard going on a Sunday morning but thanks nonetheless.

So the DNC server was hacked. The Associated Press (an impartial source??) "sketched out an anatomy of the hack......" and ".....drew on forensic data to report Thursday that the hackers known as Fancy Bear were closely aligned with the interests of the Russian government." Has this detail been produced anywhere or do we need to take the the AP's word for it? I mean is there a proven link between Fancy Bear and the Russian Government? I'd imagine the Russian government had plenty of dirt on Clinton a month later after the leak was made public.

According to this link https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/ , "Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. "

whitey

Quote from: Esmarelda on February 11, 2018, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: whitey on February 11, 2018, 10:17:48 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 11, 2018, 09:36:42 AM
Maybe ye missed my post lads. Looking for the evidence that convinces you of Russian meddling. Thanks.

https://www.apnews.com/dea73efc01594839957c3c9a6c962b8a
Hard going on a Sunday morning but thanks nonetheless.

So the DNC server was hacked. The Associated Press (an impartial source??) "sketched out an anatomy of the hack......" and ".....drew on forensic data to report Thursday that the hackers known as Fancy Bear were closely aligned with the interests of the Russian government." Has this detail been produced anywhere or do we need to take the the AP's word for it? I mean is there a proven link between Fancy Bear and the Russian Government? I'd imagine the Russian government had plenty of dirt on Clinton a month later after the leak was made public.

According to this link https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/ , "Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. "

This has been widely reported....not just by the AP

The question is did the Trump campaign in any way shape or form co-ordinate the release of the embarrassing emails with the Russians?

Several people on Trumps campaign had interactions with Russians...eg Flynn, Manafort etc.  My understanding is that they made have lied to or misled the FBI as it pertained to these points of contact. All indications are (from what I have seen and read) is that these overtures were all about them lining their own pockets and currying favor rather than influencing the outcome of the election.

The DNC are trying to use this investigation as a way of explaining away Trumps victory and delegitimizing his Presidency.

Esmarelda

Quote from: whitey on February 11, 2018, 01:42:15 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 11, 2018, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: whitey on February 11, 2018, 10:17:48 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 11, 2018, 09:36:42 AM
Maybe ye missed my post lads. Looking for the evidence that convinces you of Russian meddling. Thanks.

https://www.apnews.com/dea73efc01594839957c3c9a6c962b8a
Hard going on a Sunday morning but thanks nonetheless.

So the DNC server was hacked. The Associated Press (an impartial source??) "sketched out an anatomy of the hack......" and ".....drew on forensic data to report Thursday that the hackers known as Fancy Bear were closely aligned with the interests of the Russian government." Has this detail been produced anywhere or do we need to take the the AP's word for it? I mean is there a proven link between Fancy Bear and the Russian Government? I'd imagine the Russian government had plenty of dirt on Clinton a month later after the leak was made public.

According to this link https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/ , "Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. "

This has been widely reported....not just by the AP

The question is did the Trump campaign in any way shape or form co-ordinate the release of the embarrassing emails with the Russians?

Several people on Trumps campaign had interactions with Russians...eg Flynn, Manafort etc.  My understanding is that they made have lied to or misled the FBI as it pertained to these points of contact. All indications are (from what I have seen and read) is that these overtures were all about them lining their own pockets and currying favor rather than influencing the outcome of the election.

The DNC are trying to use this investigation as a way of explaining away Trumps victory and delegitimizing his Presidency.
But the AP drew on forensic evidence according to the link. They actually carried out the investigation.


seafoid


Trump on: – Porter: "Hope he has a wonderful career... says he's innocent" – Lewandowski: "How do you know those bruises weren't there before?" – Roy Moore: "He totally denies it" – Roger Ailes: "He helped those women" – Bill O'Reilly: "I don't think Bill did anything wrong"
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

johnneycool

Donnie has a wonderfully generous lawyer it seems!

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: johnneycool on February 14, 2018, 09:28:42 AM
Donnie has a wonderfully generous lawyer it seems!

Must be nice alright  :)

whitey

Quote from: johnneycool on February 14, 2018, 09:28:42 AM
Donnie has a wonderfully generous lawyer it seems!

Not as good as Hillarys....  somehow she was able to speak with Comey without being under oath

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/national-security/286849-fbi-didnt-record-clinton-interview-no-sworn-oath%3famp


It's alright for some!


whitey


Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 14, 2018, 12:55:53 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 14, 2018, 09:28:42 AM
Donnie has a wonderfully generous lawyer it seems!

Must be nice alright  :)

Given Trump's tendency to not pay his creditors, the lawyer's claim that he ended up paying out of his own pocket might actually be true.

heganboy

The quote was neither the administration nor the campaign paid. Doesn't say a thing about the miracle cure that is Trump or the rest of the family paying the lawyer
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

screenexile

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on February 14, 2018, 07:33:18 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 14, 2018, 12:55:53 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 14, 2018, 09:28:42 AM
Donnie has a wonderfully generous lawyer it seems!

Must be nice alright  :)

Given Trump's tendency to not pay his creditors, the lawyer's claim that he ended up paying out of his own pocket might actually be true.

Read something to the effect of Cohen admitting he paid the money makes the NDA null and void . . . could be stormy times ahead form the orange one!!!

heganboy

An adult film star who has been embroiled in allegations of an affair with President Donald Trump is free to tell her story, her manager has said.

Stormy Daniels is no longer bound by a non-disclosure contract after Mr Trump's lawyer admitted he paid her, manager Gina Rodriguez says.

Mr Trump's personal lawyer confirmed in a statement to media he privately paid Ms Daniels $130,000 (£95,000) in 2016.

Ms Rodriguez says that acknowledgement allows her client to speak freely.

Porn actress Stormy Daniels alleged in 2011 that she had an affair with Mr Trump in 2006
"Everything is off now, and Stormy is going to tell her story," Ms Rodriguez told the Associated Press on Wednesday.

$130k 18 months ago plus a couple of million this time around? Pretty good business you'd have to say.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity