Would you be in favour of a second tier?

[BennyCake]

The current proposal(s) are just Tommy Murphy mark 2 leaving "Tier 2" as just a Summer tournament with no tangible reward for winning it other than a nice shiny cup.
However let's see what comes from the June CC meeting.

Do we really need to wait? HQ's plan will be pushed through no matter who's in favour of it.

Even if 30 counties are against it, HQ will tell us all how everyone is behind and how s great idea it is.

The GAA are becoming more like Blatter and his FIFA cronies with every passing week.

[imtommygunn]

There are ways this could be made work if enough thought is put into it. That's an if though.

[Esmarelda]

The current proposal(s) are just Tommy Murphy mark 2 leaving "Tier 2" as just a Summer tournament with no tangible reward for winning it other than a nice shiny cup.
However let's see what comes from the June CC meeting.

Do we really need to wait? HQ's plan will be pushed through no matter who's in favour of it.

Even if 30 counties are against it, HQ will tell us all how everyone is behind and how s great idea it is.

The GAA are becoming more like Blatter and his FIFA cronies with every passing week.

That's the fear. The GPA need to their members' views across strongly here. The players should be the dominant voice here, in my view.

[Rossfan]

Last I heard GPA members from weaker Counties favour the move.

[Esmarelda]

Last I heard GPA members from weaker Counties favour the move.

That's the talk. If that's the case then they need to be happy with the specific structure of it.

[Dinny Breen]

Time to merge the League and Championship.


Senior 1
Dublin
Donegal
Mayo
Cork
Monaghan
Roscommon
Tipperary
Fermanagh

Senior 2
Kerry
Meath
Tyrone
Clare
Cavan
Galway
Armagh
Kildare

Intermediate 1
Longford
Carlow
Down
Derry
Westmeath
Antrim
Wexford
Wicklow

Intermediate 2
Waterford
London
Laois
Louth
Offaly
Sligo
Limerick
Leitrim

Home and Away 14 games
3 Automatically relegated 3 Automatically Promoted.


Senior AI Series
Top 4 in Senior 1 and Senior 2 qualify for All-Ireland Senior Quarters. Seeded draw. Top seeds have home advantage for quarter-final and semi-final.
Final in CP

Intermediate AI Series
Top 3 in Intermediate 1 and Intermediate 3 qualify for All-Ireland Intermediate Series Top seeds straight through to semi-finals, the other 4 play a quarter-final . Seeded draw. Top seeds have home advantage for quarter-final and semi-final.

Minimum 14 games per county. Maximum 17. Finals day last Sunday in June and work back from there. Clubs have July, August, Sept and October for Championships.

[BennyCake]

Last I heard GPA members from weaker Counties favour the move.

How many of them favour it?

What about club members, all the county players, county board reps, managers, fans etc? Are they all in favour of it?

[trailer]

Why would anyone be against a tiered championship. What can they see in the current system that won't exist in a future tiered championship?
Look at the Hurling championship and how it has become the premier GAA competition. The best teams playing each other lots of times in meaningful games.
Those against change are in the same category as flat-earthers and anti-vaxers. They must be crushed!

[five points]

Why would anyone be against a tiered championship. What can they see in the current system that won't exist in a future tiered championship?

The opportunity to win a provincial title.

Those against change are in the same category as flat-earthers and anti-vaxers. They must be crushed!

Nothing like a bit of calm perspective.

[Sportacus]

Why would anyone be against a tiered championship. What can they see in the current system that won't exist in a future tiered championship?
Look at the Hurling championship and how it has become the premier GAA competition. The best teams playing each other lots of times in meaningful games.
Those against change are in the same category as flat-earthers and anti-vaxers. They must be crushed!

Which County are you from Trailer?

[Farrandeelin]

Dinny, are you proposing three to be relegated from each of the senior divisions?

[BennyCake]

Why would anyone be against a tiered championship. What can they see in the current system that won't exist in a future tiered championship?
Look at the Hurling championship and how it has become the premier GAA competition. The best teams playing each other lots of times in meaningful games.
Those against change are in the same category as flat-earthers and anti-vaxers. They must be crushed!

What's the best teams got to do with anything? Do we want to see Dublin v Kerry in the AI final every year, just because they happen to be the best teams? Now, Cavan aren't the best team in Ireland. But should that mean it's unacceptable for them to appear in an AI final?

Any new format is snobbery. Oh we only want to see the best teams in the final. Why? Dublin Kerry, Kerry Dublin, Dublin Tyrone. I dunno about you but it tends to get very monotonous watching the same teams over and over again in the final stages. Any new format suggested won't change this.

As for meaningful games. Was Dublin Roscommon and Tyrone Roscommon meaningful games last year? 20 point margins. And that was Div 1 teams. The top 8 teams playing each other!! I don't recall any talk of Roscommon not being allowed in the Senior c'ship. But Louth and Antrim on Sunday with a similar margin of defeat, oh chuck them in tier 2!

[Dinny Breen]

Dinny, are you proposing three to be relegated from each of the senior divisions?

Yes to ensure leagues remain competitive and reduce dead rubbers.

[imtommygunn]

They would need to do better than they do in the hurling in terms of relegation. They have made it very difficult to get relegated with the team in the higher divisions having a few chances.

i think the McDonagh cup is ok but the league definitely has been like that.

[Rossfan]

Last I heard GPA members from weaker Counties favour the move.

How many of them favour it?

What about club members, all the county players, county board reps, managers, fans etc? Are they all in favour of it?

Me uncle Tom thinks it's a great idea anyway.