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#556
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 17, 2011, 05:50:28 PM
oisinog, you are with out a doubt wrong on the suspension thing. How many players and supporters have been suspended in the past without being shown a red card? Lots, for example LW from the Tipp V Antrim game in 2002.
#557
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 17, 2011, 03:48:01 PM
oisinog you need to read the rules about the suspension process. By the weekend I will be proven correct. Karl will get suspended and Neil will have his red card rescinded. Wait and see. Also I was part of the previous conversation oisinog and if I want too I'll post my opinion for discussion. It is a discussion board after all.
#558
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 17, 2011, 02:37:24 PM
Minder, what is wrong with what I have said? oisinog has posted a pile of rubbish. Glenariffe's actions relating to the league match in Dunloy won't have found them much favour around the county, or indeed on the ards penninsula. I'm sure there are plenty of people looking forward to the championship quarter final. Minder I haven't peddled any lies but oisinog has.
#559
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 17, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
oisinog, you have posted the biggest pile of rubbish I have ever heard. If you knew anything at all RM was told by one of his linesmen EH, that he had made a mistake and that it was Karl who said it. RM then put an amendment to his referees report stating that he was wrong about sending off Neil and that he now knows it was Karl. The likely outcome is that Neil's red card will be rescinded however this talk that Karl can't get suspended is a load of rubbish and as far as I am aware he will get banned. For how long is up to the Ulster Council. On a side note, oisinog you said Neil lashed out due to frustration due to him playing badly. Neil had scored 1-4 in the match, hardly playing badly. I'm sure you'd be happy if any of your forwards scored 1-4 in the championship quarter final however I don't think there is much chance of that. Keep your rubbish off this discussion board. Glenariffe might be able to weasel their way out of relegation but there'll be no avoiding the stuffing you so richly deserve in the quarter final!!!
#560
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 16, 2011, 06:31:09 PM
I think that those supporters involved in the trouble at the Ballycastle V Cushendall match should be punished as individuals. To ban home matches has hit hundreds of under age and senior players in hurling and camogie. We are supposed to be promoting our national games and we have now been prevented from doing this. Why should kids suffer because of the actions of adult supporters? I remember back in the early 90's when Cushendall beat Ballycastle in 2 ill tempered county finals we were forced to play all senior matches against Ballycastle at neutral venues for 2 years. Maybe all Cushendall V Ballycastle minor matches should be played at neutral venues for say 2 or 3 years?
#561
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 16, 2011, 09:55:03 AM
The Ballycastle V Cushendall game was in Ballycastle. Totally over the top punishment.
#562
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 12, 2011, 04:39:14 PM
Why didn't the players and management just agree to call the match off in the first place? I thought it showed a lack of manners to be honest.
#563
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 11, 2011, 09:42:17 PM
Maninblack he made plenty last night. Just ask the Dunloy folks as well.
#564
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 11, 2011, 03:26:14 PM
I think it is bad sportsmanship from Glenariffe to refuse to refix the game away to Dunloy, sure Dunloy rearranged the corresponding fixture a few weeks ago twice at Glenariffe's request. As far as our quarter final against Glenariffe goes it is going to be one hell of a struggle to get out of it without Neil. Shane Mc Naughton's imminent return takes on a new significance.
#565
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 11, 2011, 10:15:57 AM
Calling a referee a cheating b*****d is wrong. However sending off the wrong man is also wrong. I would have had no argument if he sent off the player that said it but he got it wrong. I hope he will be big enough to admit that. Unless something can be done Neil will miss the quarter final against Glenariffe and he doesn't deserve this at all. As far as the incident with Mc Keague hitting Scullion off the ball goes, there is no grey area here, if you strike someone you should walk simple as that, there is no grey area here. The same with throwing a hurl at another player. If RM is going to apply the rules so rigidly for one team and send people off then why not apply the rules the same way for the other team. Look up the rule book, there is no grey area, striking is a sending off as is throwing a hurl at someone. Which is a more serious offence? Striking with a stick and throwing a hurl or calling someone a b*****d? SD's tackle on PD was late but Skinny got away with a few bad tackles as well. All we are looking for from referees is consistency.
#566
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 11, 2011, 09:31:29 AM
Nag I totally dispute what you are saying. RM was nowhere near Neil at the time of the sending off, he was on the one 45 yard line and Neil was on the other and RM had his back to Neil as he was watching the play in the Dall full back line. There was hardly a dirty stroke in the game? Are you having a laugh? Mc Keague struck Scullion off the ball with the stick. How can the referee give a yellow for this? The umpire told him what happened. Is throwing your stick not a dirty action? According to RM throwing a stick at someone is only a yellow card. I already said I don't blame him for the defeat but I do blame him for refusing to apply the rules of the game. Anyway it was the same for the league game in Dunloy earlier in the year. I was at an U-21 match earlier this year and he called one of our players a "Silly B*****d"
#567
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
August 11, 2011, 08:32:49 AM
While not blaming the ref RM for our defeat in the Ulster League Semi Final I thought he was terrible. How can he justify sending Neil Mc Manus off for alleged verbal abuse? RM was 50 yards away from him at the time and had his back to him. How can he be certain he got the right man? On 2 occasions he had reason to send off a Dunloy man and never did. James Mc Keague struck Odhran Scullion, off the ball, with the stick, the umpire called the referee in and the ref only issued a yellow card. Also Paddy Doherty threw his stick at Paddy Mc Naughton as he chased him, this is also a red card offence according to the rule book. RM seems incapable of just refereeing a match, he always has to be the centre of attention.
   As far as the game goes I thought it was poor enough from both teams, Sean Delargy was superb for Cushendall and Paul Shiels was excellent for Dunloy. We threw it away in the second period of extra time missing 3 frees and 2 65's. I honestly think Pappy and Shane Elliott have a lot to think about. Dunloy only seemed to be missing Paddy Richmond where as Cushendall were without Aaron Graffin, Shane Mc Naughton, Brian Delargy, Aidan Delargy and Declan Mc Killop and they hurled most of the second half without Mc Manus.
On this showing both teams have a lot of improving to do if they want to win the championship.