The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread

[Balboa]

Balls Bingobus, there were plenty of newsagents stocking it. I support Liverpool so why would i lie? If you went to our local Tescos after midday it was sold out, there is a difference in not stocking a paper and it being sold out. Dont let the truth get in the way though.

[AZOffaly]

Sorry Balboa, but the Sun is read very little in Liverpool.

[Balboa]

Sorry Balboa, but the Sun is read very little in Liverpool.

Things must have changed......

[Tony Baloney]

Isn't it time someone came up with some figures on the readership of the Sun in Liverpool instead of just saying "I'm right, you're wrong". AZ and bingobus have you actually been in every shop in Liverpool to check if the Sun is sold there?

[AZOffaly]

Tony, The Sun made a big apology, and have had several love ins towards Liverpool, the city and the club, since 1989. They acknowledge themselves that they have a problem with circulation in Liverpool, and I heard their Editor, can't remember his name now, interviewed on Radio 5 Live last year and he acknowledged the same thing. Of course people will read it, and newsagents will stock it, but I guarantee you their readership in Liverpool is way lower than the national average.

Edit: This is from the Independent (English) At the time of the Wayne Rooney - Sun rumpus.


An own goal? Rooney caught in crossfire between 'The Sun' and an unforgiving city By Ian Burrell, Media Editor
Published: 08 July 2004

Fifteen years after the event, The Sun has apologised to the people of Liverpool. It said sorry for reporting, in the immediate aftermath of the Hillsborough disaster which claimed 96 lives, that Liverpool fans had stolen from fellow supporters as they lay injured on the turf, and that they had urinated on police and the bodies of those who died.

The newspaper published a full-page apology yesterday for its reporting of the disaster, and acknowledged it as "the most terrible mistake in its history".

The city, though, was not in a forgiving mood and Liverpudlians jammed radio phone-ins to express their anger. The reason? What they saw as the cynical manipulation of a series of interviews this week with England's football sensation, Wayne Rooney, who plays in the city for Everton. Listeners queued up to accuse The Sun of trying to cash in on the interviews with Rooney and his girlfriend, Colleen McLoughlin, with the apology.

In its editorial, The Sun said the reports were "a mistake ... for which we are truly sorry". The Liverpool Echo ran an editorial last night accusing the tabloid paper of being "cynical and shameless".

The Sun, which sells 3.3 million copies nationwide but only 12,000 in Liverpool, remains the subject of a boycott in Merseyside. The Sun's coverage of the disaster lost the paper around around 200,000 readers in the city and sales have never recovered since.

The Sun sought to suggest that Rooney, only a toddler at the time of the disaster, had become a hate figure for selling his story to it - but most reserved their ire for the newspaper.

Peter Sampara, who survived the disaster, said: "The Sun's apology is too little, too late. They're doing it on the grounds of economics, not morality. Some people say forgive and forget, but the depth of the insult to the people who died, to their relatives - why should The Sun be forgiven? It increased the pain for everyone. Rooney's been ill-advised. Maybe he can't appreciate the devastating impact on people in the area. But I've got a 10-year-old daughter and she sees it."

The paper carried an article yesterday claiming that Rooney was "hurt" by a "hate campaign" against him because of his deal with The Sun. The story, headlined "Backlash! Fans turn on Rooney", was illustrated with a picture of Rooney and Ms McLoughlin, holding up a copy of last Thursday's edition of The Sun.

The photograph - used to give the impression that the player was sympathetic to The Sun's attempt to bury the hatchet with Liverpudlians - was taken in an entirely different context and the Rooney camp was feeling deeply let down by the newspaper .

The football player was not consulted about the apology, despite detailed discussions on the series of articles - thought to have cost the paper £280,000.

Liverpudlians were deeply suspicious of The Sun's claim that Rooney had been targeted in a hate campaign. Steve Hothersall, the news editor of Radio City, said: "I don't think anyone blames Wayne. They just think he is a bit naive."

The footballer is represented by the agent Paul Stretford of Proactive Sports Group (PSG). A spokesman for PSGsaid that it had "absolutely no comment". Graham Dudman, the associate editor of The Sun, which says it long ago apologised for the Hillsborough report, told the BBC Radio's Five Live that the "entire senior team" of 1989 had left the paper, "yet we are still being blamed and tarnished for what was a terrible mistake".

Phil Hammond, who lost his 14-year-old son at Hillsborough, said: "This will not be accepted by me or any of the Hillsborough families. They are hiding behind Rooney.

"They think that because they've got a big name on board people will start to buy the paper but we're not that stupid."

[Balboa]

Sorry Balboa, but the Sun is read very little in Liverpool.

I can only give anecdotal evidence.

[Tony Baloney]

It's hardly a big miss anyway is it no matter what they said about Liverpool supporters.

[EC Unique]

Maybe it does not sell because the Bin dippers can't read that well

[bingobus]

Maybe it does not sell because the Bin dippers can't read that well

Reading and The Sun??? Whats the connection? Most apes only buy it for the pictures and big bold headlines.

Balboa - I've been to Liverpool fairly regular and haven't seen it read once. I have a mate who took it over once on the plane and the racing section on him later in the pub (The beehive). To say he was soon eductated by some of the locals is an understatement. Luckily we weren't in Rileys next door or I'm sure he would have got a slap.

[Balboa]

Maybe it does not sell because the Bin dippers can't read that well

Reading and The Sun??? Whats the connection? Most apes only buy it for the pictures and big bold headlines.

Balboa - I've been to Liverpool fairly regular and haven't seen it read once. I have a mate who took it over once on the plane and the racing section on him later in the pub (The beehive). To say he was soon eductated by some of the locals is an understatement. Luckily we weren't in Rileys next door or I'm sure he would have got a slap.

Well i can only tell you my experience, i lived in Liverpool for a few years and i saw different. Anyway its my last word on the matter.

[DirtyDozen12]

No team news yet ahead of todays game???

[The Real Laoislad]

No team news yet ahead of todays game???

You asking us or telling us

[longball]

No team news yet ahead of todays game???

You asking us or telling us

question marks usually mean a question numbnuts. team in accordance to the daily mirror Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Agger, Arbeloa, Benayoun, alonso, sissoko, riise, voronin, crouch

[DirtyDozen12]

Bit of both LoaisLad .  official website not yet updated and match only 2 hours away.  Wondering has anyone heard anything through the grapevine??

[DirtyDozen12]

team in accordance to the daily mirror Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Agger, Arbeloa, Benayoun, alonso, sissoko, riise, voronin, crouch

So thats probably no where near the team then