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#1
Quote from: fearsiuil on December 24, 2019, 06:33:31 PM
Some gallery reading middle aged men slagging each other about soccer in some random English city.
Your support is f**king shit.
#2
General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
December 07, 2019, 11:18:03 AM
Quote from: Main Street on December 06, 2019, 01:02:31 AM
Quote from: yewtree on December 04, 2019, 11:17:48 PM
Ally McCoist in heaven.And we showed them only one club on Merseyside. #ynwa.
On our way to the title now.Pity the Red Mancs won.
It's really really nice  and unique to boot, to at last have a genuine Liverpudlian here on GAA board. Though in all my time in Liverpool, about 6 months  or so way back in the day, I mostly only came across supporters of Everton.
;D
#3
General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
December 05, 2019, 05:02:14 PM
Quote from: yewtree on December 04, 2019, 11:17:48 PM
Ally McCoist in heaven.And we showed them only one club on Merseyside. #ynwa.
On our way to the title now.Pity the Red Mancs won.
#banter  ::)
#4
Very well put by Horan. Very open-minded about all the options that will be produced.

He forgot one small thing though..........that there'll be a Tier 2 Championship regardless of what anyone else thinks.
#5
Quote from: Rossfan on November 29, 2019, 03:16:38 PM
Correct.
We shortened the Inter Co Championships then later added 2 extra football rounds and 3 or 4 extra hurling rounds.
The net position for the football was a gain of a couple of weeks for each country board to start their championships. The number of rounds is hardly relevant.
#6
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 29, 2019, 12:55:12 PM
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Quote from: five points on November 28, 2019, 10:47:29 AM
Just because you're a genuine GAA person doesn't mean your ideas are any good.
Very much this.

I'll repeat ad infinitum that there is no solution to the current fixtures impasse until the culture of postponing games until county players return, is reversed.

What the average club player in Ireland needs from the CPA, more than anything, is leadership in this regard. Leadership who are prepared to recognise the root cause of the problem, and implement the process of acceptance.


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It never fails to amuse/amaze me that clubs will dig their heels in for months waiting for Jonny to come back from county commitments, but will carry on regardless with matches when Jonny then buggers off to America after a couple of club training sessions.

It's a mindset thing. Which means it can be changed with little effort.

It never fails to a amaze me why people think that the county player can't play in his club league or championship game following the weekend of a county championship match, rather than train with the county team all the time until the next game. Your loaded to the county at the clubs expense. Why don't you loaded to the club and county evenly.

The difficulty is more physiological than physical.

County players put in the hard yards all winter and spring with a goal of playing summer football at the highest level.

To then ask them to jump flippantly between club and county, especially in peak season county, it is - in my opinion - more than a touch unfair. Not because of risk of tiredness or injuries (though these are factors), but because asking them to give 100% equally to two causes has to be an emotional drain.

Of course they want to play for their clubs. But during a county championship season, it's surely not just as high on the list of priorities, especially as they progress in the AI series, and dreams come closer to reality, and the intensity required to fulfil that dream requires selfishness.

I was never even remotely good enough at football to put myself on their actual shoes. But anybody who believes that tearing someone in two directions will lead to a fulfilled conclusion in either, is ignoring every rule they've learned in life, and creating a special fantasy case for GAA commitment.

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Encourage the GAA to wrap up the county season as quick as possible. Encourage the GAA to eliminate as many county teams as early as possible in the summer. Play club GAA with gay abandon while your county team progresses, and then with even gayer abandon when they're out.

This is the only way to ensure a regular and fulfilling club season for the 98%.

I don't want to be confrontational but it seems to me you're not following this issue very closely. The CPA are lobbying for exactly what you're saying. Clearly defined club and country seasons. A shorter county season (e.g. no reason why Ulster SFC has to take so long with one game every week).

Clubs are entitltled to THEIR players so no important games should be fixed for times THEIR players aren't going to be available. It's very nuanced and detailed and won't be fixed without open minds and firm decisions.
Also not being confrontational, but wasn't this very thing changed two summers ago? The Ulster Championship is no longer played at a rate of one game per week.
#7
I'd have thought the question is, what were the terms of reference for this committee?

The CPA seem to think that it was a blank page approach to fixtures which is unlikely to have been the case in practice.

Nothing is ever a blank page approach in the GAA; everything is incremental and to think that this would've been any different was naive, especially with the Tier 2 competition being introduced while the committee was still meeting.
#8
GAA Discussion / Re: Colm O'Rourke vs. the GPA
November 26, 2019, 03:55:40 PM
Quote from: Beffs on November 26, 2019, 02:21:44 PM
Paul Flynn really can't be the sharpest knife in the drawer if he can't see how flying dozens and dozens of people over to the US every year looks terrible, when there are clubhouses up & down the country without running water, hot showers, proper dressing rooms, enough equipment etc etc

All Star trips and the annual team holiday for AI winners are one thing. I don't think anyone has a problem with them. At least I don't. But spending truck loads of money on junkets (with loads of hangers on) to play a bastardized version of hurling that serves no purpose whatsoever, does not sit well with people.

The money could be better spent elsewhere, whether it's their own money, the GAA's or the sponsors. If he can't see that, it's a damming inditement of just how out of touch with reality he & the rest of the GPA are.
I don't think the GPA ever pretended to have anything to do with anything other than intercounty players.
#9
General discussion / Re: Syria
November 24, 2019, 04:06:53 PM
Good man Jell O, but nobody's listening.

Shocked that the mail had it though.
#10
Quote from: five points on November 21, 2019, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on November 19, 2019, 11:04:15 PM

The previous administration, despite the criticism they got, compressed the season while still introducing the Super 8s meaning that club championships were able to begin earlier as counties exited the All Ireland series earlier.


That hasn't happened though. Almost all counties schedule their county finals for 2-3 weeks ahead of the winner's first game in the provincial club championships. If they schedule them earlier they'll be accused of scuppering their chances of doing well in the provincials. Tail wagging dog in usual GAA fashion.
Perhaps, but time was created for the county boards to use as they saw fit.
#11
Quote from: Gael85 on November 19, 2019, 08:22:18 PM
GAA have no desire to tackle club fixtures crisis especially when bring in more games like super 8's .
The previous administration, despite the criticism they got, compressed the season while still introducing the Super 8s meaning that club championships were able to begin earlier as counties exited the All Ireland series earlier.

I'm not sure but I think Horan has managed to reverse these changes with his Tier 2 championship.
#12
Quote from: five points on November 19, 2019, 05:27:25 PM
Clear as day that John Horan scuppered his own task force by rushing through the tier 2 championship.
Absolutely. This was inevitable. CPA wanted a blank page approach, Horan has a new championship structure set up to start next June. What other way could it have ended?
#14
GAA Discussion / Re: Colm O'Rourke vs. the GPA
November 18, 2019, 05:42:26 PM
Quote from: five points on November 18, 2019, 03:23:20 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on November 18, 2019, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: five points on November 18, 2019, 03:11:53 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on November 18, 2019, 02:52:01 PM
Definitely not, just nonsensical.

An auditing scandal, as you might define it, is likely to have involved one of the big five accountancy firms as, to merit it being a scandal, it would probably need to involve an entity who engages a firm of such a size.

By your logic, the GPA shouldn't use one of these firms because they have been or are more likely to have been involved in a scandal. You seem to be suggesting (in the absence of you explaining your post) that the GPA would be better off hiring a small firm of accountants who haven't been found to be in a scandal as they're not large enough to make such headlines.

Or maybe there's something cryptic in there after all?

No, what I said was very clear. The GPA shouldn't be using them because their fees are astronomical, to the level that only very large companies, multinationals and those with very deep pockets use them. Your red herring that their work should be more dependable than smaller firms was and is easily rebuffed.
"A telltale sign of an outfit with too much money"
"Google "auditing scandals" and you'll find Deloitte way ahead of any "small time crowd"."

No mention of fees in either of those two posts yet you feel what you say is very clear despite you deciding not to clarify when I invited you to.

And I didn't say their work would be more dependable as you can see.........very clearly.

"...too much money"
"...No mention of fees... "
::)

(It's only a minor point anyway. Hardly worth fighting over.)
I agree with the bit in brackets, but who's fighting?

I've no vested interest in the GPA. I just want a balanced view of what's going on there. Saying that using a Big Five accountancy firm is a sign of a firm with too much money sounds like an argument in favour of an already formed opinion rather than a balanced one.
#15
GAA Discussion / Re: Colm O'Rourke vs. the GPA
November 18, 2019, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: five points on November 18, 2019, 03:11:53 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on November 18, 2019, 02:52:01 PM
Definitely not, just nonsensical.

An auditing scandal, as you might define it, is likely to have involved one of the big five accountancy firms as, to merit it being a scandal, it would probably need to involve an entity who engages a firm of such a size.

By your logic, the GPA shouldn't use one of these firms because they have been or are more likely to have been involved in a scandal. You seem to be suggesting (in the absence of you explaining your post) that the GPA would be better off hiring a small firm of accountants who haven't been found to be in a scandal as they're not large enough to make such headlines.

Or maybe there's something cryptic in there after all?

No, what I said was very clear. The GPA shouldn't be using them because their fees are astronomical, to the level that only very large companies, multinationals and those with very deep pockets use them. Your red herring that their work should be more dependable than smaller firms was and is easily rebuffed.
"A telltale sign of an outfit with too much money"
"Google "auditing scandals" and you'll find Deloitte way ahead of any "small time crowd"."

No mention of fees in either of those two posts yet you feel what you say is very clear despite you deciding not to clarify when I invited you to.

And I didn't say their work would be more dependable as you can see.........very clearly.