Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[Itchy]

Don't get mixed up, if the numbers are up on antisemitism then that's true. Did he he say what's happening in Palestine wrong?

It's a bit of a coincidence though that Stephen Fry, an atheist, does a Christmas message and decides the topic of the day to be discussed is Anti Semitism? I mean, could he not have thought the ending of a either the slaughter in Gaza or the war in Ukraine were topics more worthy.

A long time since I was so disappointed in a person. I've got a few of his books, I just threw them in the recycle bin.

He may be an Athiest but he's still Jewish, he's got a dog in the fight.

Really. How can you be a Jew and athiest? I am an atheist and I don't consider myself a Catholic or a Christian. I certainly wouldn't accept an offer to give a "Christmas message" to anyone

To paraphrase David Baddiel, the Nazis didn't stop to ask if you were were an observant Jew.

Honestly Itchy, that is so ignorant its unreal.

If you say so. Next time you fill in the census and it asks your religion and asks you to select one, let me know if you've the option to select 2.

The German Nazis haven't been in business for 80 yrs so not sure what your point is there.

My point is, if you haven't got it already, there are probably 100 more frequent types of discrimination ahead of anti Semitism and his little talk is bullshit.

[bennydorano]

You're conflating Religion with culture & heritage and all that entails and acting the candyman tho. Unless you want to tell Fry and Baddiel they're not Jews because they don't go to synagogue.

Israel are genocidal c***ts, we are aware. Jewish people can still have their concerns and voice them - the Channel 4 'alternative' Christmas message is different every year - it is an opinion piece. Glad you watched it to get offended.

[Itchy]

You're conflating Religion with culture & heritage and all that entails and acting the candyman tho. Unless you want to tell Fry and Baddiel they're not Jews because they don't go to synagogue.

Israel are genocidal c***ts, we are aware. Jewish people can still have their concerns and voice them - the Channel 4 'alternative' Christmas message is different every year - it is an opinion piece. Glad you watched it to get offended.

Questions..

Can you be a Catholic and atheist?
Can you be a Muslim and atheist?
Can you be a Hindu and athiest?

Judaism is not a culture not a heritage, it's a religion.

I have lost respect for Fry, Offended? No. I just think he's a stupid p***k for doing that.

[Milltown Row2]

Can you identify as not being catholic or atheist?

[Itchy]

Can you identify as not being catholic or atheist?

A Muslim would not be a Catholic nor an atheist.

Here is a english Jewish Comedian doing a more topical Christmas message.

https://twitter.com/abierkhatib/status/1739610945167483144?t=B8CSaWFd1_y5GT1_NuIReA&s=19

[bennydorano]

You're conflating Religion with culture & heritage and all that entails and acting the candyman tho. Unless you want to tell Fry and Baddiel they're not Jews because they don't go to synagogue.

Israel are genocidal c***ts, we are aware. Jewish people can still have their concerns and voice them - the Channel 4 'alternative' Christmas message is different every year - it is an opinion piece. Glad you watched it to get offended.

Questions..

Can you be a Catholic and atheist?
Can you be a Muslim and atheist?
Can you be a Hindu and athiest?

Judaism is not a culture not a heritage, it's a religion.

I have lost respect for Fry, Offended? No. I just think he's a stupid p***k for doing that.

The rest of the world is in on something you are cleary not.

Goodnight, that's enough for me.

[Itchy]

You didn't answer the question I asked, why you running away from it?

[Milltown Row2]

Can you identify as not being catholic or atheist?

A Muslim would not be a Catholic nor an atheist.

Here is a english Jewish Comedian doing a more topical Christmas message.

https://twitter.com/abierkhatib/status/1739610945167483144?t=B8CSaWFd1_y5GT1_NuIReA&s=19

I'll word it slightly better now

You asked, can you be catholic and an atheist.. I'd assume you can't, you're either or, or something else.

But you can still hold a view that there is an increase of antisemitism in the uk.

What's it (his past or present beliefs) got to do with what he said? Did he say anything incorrect?

Will you cancel every 'celebrity' if they say there's an increase of racist hate crimes?

[Itchy]

Can you identify as not being catholic or atheist?

A Muslim would not be a Catholic nor an atheist.

Here is a english Jewish Comedian doing a more topical Christmas message.

https://twitter.com/abierkhatib/status/1739610945167483144?t=B8CSaWFd1_y5GT1_NuIReA&s=19

I'll word it slightly better now

You asked, can you be catholic and an atheist.. I'd assume you can't, you're either or, or something else.

But you can still hold a view that there is an increase of antisemitism in the uk.

What's it (his past or present beliefs) got to do with what he said? Did he say anything incorrect?

Will you cancel every 'celebrity' if they say there's an increase of racist hate crimes?

A man who has no time for religion, at Christmas time decides he will give a talk asking us to stand with Jews at a time that Israel is committing Genocide against Palestinians, murdering 100s on Christmas day. This was not coincidental, at least I don't believe it was

If he had called for peace, ceasefire etc in the holy land I'd have some respect but he seems to have forgotten all that - maybe he doesn't watch tv and this is all a coincidence?

[Milltown Row2]

Can you identify as not being catholic or atheist?

A Muslim would not be a Catholic nor an atheist.

Here is a english Jewish Comedian doing a more topical Christmas message.

https://twitter.com/abierkhatib/status/1739610945167483144?t=B8CSaWFd1_y5GT1_NuIReA&s=19

I'll word it slightly better now

You asked, can you be catholic and an atheist.. I'd assume you can't, you're either or, or something else.

But you can still hold a view that there is an increase of antisemitism in the uk.

What's it (his past or present beliefs) got to do with what he said? Did he say anything incorrect?

Will you cancel every 'celebrity' if they say there's an increase of racist hate crimes?

A man who has no time for religion, at Christmas time decides he will give a talk asking us to stand with Jews at a time that Israel is committing Genocide against Palestinians, murdering 100s on Christmas day. This was not coincidental, at least I don't believe it was

If he had called for peace, ceasefire etc in the holy land I'd have some respect but he seems to have forgotten all that - maybe he doesn't watch tv and this is all a coincidence?

Is he talking about UK Jews having increased attacks in the UK?

[Itchy]

Can you identify as not being catholic or atheist?

A Muslim would not be a Catholic nor an atheist.

Here is a english Jewish Comedian doing a more topical Christmas message.

https://twitter.com/abierkhatib/status/1739610945167483144?t=B8CSaWFd1_y5GT1_NuIReA&s=19

I'll word it slightly better now

You asked, can you be catholic and an atheist.. I'd assume you can't, you're either or, or something else.

But you can still hold a view that there is an increase of antisemitism in the uk.

What's it (his past or present beliefs) got to do with what he said? Did he say anything incorrect?

Will you cancel every 'celebrity' if they say there's an increase of racist hate crimes?

A man who has no time for religion, at Christmas time decides he will give a talk asking us to stand with Jews at a time that Israel is committing Genocide against Palestinians, murdering 100s on Christmas day. This was not coincidental, at least I don't believe it was

If he had called for peace, ceasefire etc in the holy land I'd have some respect but he seems to have forgotten all that - maybe he doesn't watch tv and this is all a coincidence?

Is he talking about UK Jews having increased attacks in the UK?

There is a concerted campaign from Zionist quarters to play victim and cry anti-Semitism. This is just another effort at the same. They are trying to equate anti Israel and Anti Zionism as being the same as Anti Semitism. Its ridiculous and especially so when you look where the real victims are - the children of Gaza blown to bits by Zionist Nazis

[Milltown Row2]

Just because he hasn't discussed it doesn't mean he's supporting what's happening in Gaza.

But you have been able to take what he said and changed the context to suit yourself.

[Itchy]

Just because he hasn't discussed it doesn't mean he's supporting what's happening in Gaza.

But you have been able to take what he said and changed the context to suit yourself.

His silence on it is deafening as they say Miltown. You can believe what you like regarding his motives as is your right.

[bennydorano]

The actual first thing you've done Itchy in referencing Fry is to deny his right to see himself as Jewish (because he's an atheist), if that isn't anti-semitic I don't know what is. The fact you can't (or choose not to imo) accept this is absolutely pathetic. Its nothing to do with Gaza in itself, it is the definition of anti-semitism and reinforces the point Fry was trying to make. Play the ball Not the man.

[Itchy]

The actual first thing you've done Itchy in referencing Fry is to deny his right to see himself as Jewish (because he's an atheist), if that isn't anti-semitic I don't know what is. The fact you can't (or choose not to imo) accept this is absolutely pathetic. Its nothing to do with Gaza in itself, it is the definition of anti-semitism and reinforces the point Fry was trying to make. Play the ball Not the man.

Well what you've done is deny me an athiest, who is also a Catholic as I share a culture and heritage with Catholics around the world in Ireland, Phillipines, chile and outer mongolia etc. You've denied me the right to be anti Jewish as the Jews killed Jesus as i was thought before I became an athiest. But that belief still lingers in my Catholic culture. So you are anti Catholic (self hating Catholic?) and sectarian and indeed pathetic. I'm glad we've cleared this up. I'm anti Semitic and you are anti Catholic. Brilliant.