Man Utd Thread:

[magpie seanie]

I'm convinced Mourinho went bald headed after Sanchez to get one up on Guardiola.

[Cunny Funt]

I'm convinced Mourinho went bald headed after Sanchez to get one up on Guardiola.

I think it was Ed Woodward vanity signing. Di Maria before it and he tried to do the same with Dybala this summer. On the template for success the main question should be do the owners and Ed Woodward have the structures in place with a clear vision for success?

[Look-Up!]

I'm convinced Mourinho went bald headed after Sanchez to get one up on Guardiola.

Doesn't seem right to me. Mourinho always seemed more tactically aware than that and getting his midfield right was the basis for a lot of his success. Of course I could be wrong but my hunch was Utd wanted to get one over City. Maybe they felt Sanchez would have strengthened City too much and made a very agricultural move against them without worrying too much about the effect it would have on themselves. How complicit Mourinho was in this I don't know but it was an incredibly stupid way be be thinking bereft of logic and not in line with what fights the club needed taking on at the time. Kinda reminded me of Chelsea's move for Shevchenko with the outcome more or less the same.

[magpie seanie]

Jose Mourinho commented: "Alexis is one of the best attacking players in the world and he will complete our very young and talented group of attacking players. He will bring his ambition, drive and personality, qualities that make a Manchester United player and a player that makes the team stronger and the supporters proud of their club dimension and prestige.

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/manchester-united-complete-the-transfer-of-alexis-sanchez-from-arsenal

Seemed happy enough with it at the time. Interesting he mentioned prestige.

[DrumraghAbu]

Looking forward to seeing Ole getting some success.... not least so that Seanie's tiresome Mourinho obsession can perhaps be laid to rest. 

Really hoping the same, however I believe he has been thrown in the deep end. I seen Gary Neville in an interview say the other day that he should be given time like Klopp. This statement is complete bulls***, Klopp was very successful at Dortmund and was one of the most sought after manager, Ole has came from a farmers league.

With James, Rashy, Martial, Pogba all playing well I think we will get back to the glory days sooner rather than later.

[GetOverTheBar]

Looking forward to seeing Ole getting some success.... not least so that Seanie's tiresome Mourinho obsession can perhaps be laid to rest. 

Really hoping the same, however I believe he has been thrown in the deep end. I seen Gary Neville in an interview say the other day that he should be given time like Klopp. This statement is complete bulls***, Klopp was very successful at Dortmund and was one of the most sought after manager, Ole has came from a farmers league.

With James, Rashy, Martial, Pogba all playing well I think we will get back to the glory days sooner rather than later.

At a time, when he left Dortmund they were a shambles and he'd ran them into the ground and in the relegation zone if I recall. Liverpool should be wary history doesn't repeat.

[laoislad]

Looking forward to seeing Ole getting some success.... not least so that Seanie's tiresome Mourinho obsession can perhaps be laid to rest. 

Really hoping the same, however I believe he has been thrown in the deep end. I seen Gary Neville in an interview say the other day that he should be given time like Klopp. This statement is complete bulls***, Klopp was very successful at Dortmund and was one of the most sought after manager, Ole has came from a farmers league.

With James, Rashy, Martial, Pogba all playing well I think we will get back to the glory days sooner rather than later.

At a time, when he left Dortmund they were a shambles and he'd ran them into the ground and in the relegation zone if I recall. Liverpool should be wary history doesn't repeat.

Shambles?
Finished 7th in league,Won the German Super Cup, Runners up in the German Cup and last 16 of the Champions League..
His time was up with them no doubt and compared to previous seasons it wouldn't have been as good,but he hardly left them in a shambles.

[Joeythelips]

Looking forward to seeing Ole getting some success.... not least so that Seanie's tiresome Mourinho obsession can perhaps be laid to rest. 

Really hoping the same, however I believe he has been thrown in the deep end. I seen Gary Neville in an interview say the other day that he should be given time like Klopp. This statement is complete bulls***, Klopp was very successful at Dortmund and was one of the most sought after manager, Ole has came from a farmers league.

With James, Rashy, Martial, Pogba all playing well I think we will get back to the glory days sooner rather than later.

Exactly, Ole needs time just like Klopp, but Klopp had a proven record at Dortmund. When Fergueson came to united he had to do a major rebuilding job, what kept him in the job was the fact of what he had done in Scotland. Ole has none of that so when things are not going well (which is inevitable when rebuilding a team) he has not got the CV to back up what he is doing.

Also as much as I am not a fan of Jose, he did want to sign McGuire last season (for half the price) so he knew what was needed and united could not deliver it.

[nrico2006]

Looking forward to seeing Ole getting some success.... not least so that Seanie's tiresome Mourinho obsession can perhaps be laid to rest. 

Really hoping the same, however I believe he has been thrown in the deep end. I seen Gary Neville in an interview say the other day that he should be given time like Klopp. This statement is complete bulls***, Klopp was very successful at Dortmund and was one of the most sought after manager, Ole has came from a farmers league.

With James, Rashy, Martial, Pogba all playing well I think we will get back to the glory days sooner rather than later.

Exactly, Ole needs time just like Klopp, but Klopp had a proven record at Dortmund. When Fergueson came to united he had to do a major rebuilding job, what kept him in the job was the fact of what he had done in Scotland. Ole has none of that so when things are not going well (which is inevitable when rebuilding a team) he has not got the CV to back up what he is doing.

Also as much as I am not a fan of Jose, he did want to sign McGuire last season (for half the price) so he knew what was needed and united could not deliver it.

Mourinho wanted Maguire but the fact was he had already splashed out heavily on a few centre backs already.

[gallsman]

Rashy

Is this a thing now

[trailer]

I'm happy to give Ole the time. He's making an omelette but the eggs are inferior to rival eggs in other omelettes. Let's see if he can get the hens to lay better eggs so he can make a better omelette. Let's remember also, that to make an omelette he will have to break some eggs as well.

Lets just hope we all don't end up with egg on our face.

[DrumraghAbu]

Rashy

Is this a thing now

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[DrumraghAbu]

I'm happy to give Ole the time. He's making an omelette but the eggs are inferior to rival eggs in other omelettes. Let's see if he can get the hens to lay better eggs so he can make a better omelette. Let's remember also, that to make an omelette he will have to break some eggs as well.

Lets just hope we all don't end up with egg on our face.

Give me some of whatever you are smoking buddy.

[Look-Up!]

Jose Mourinho commented: "Alexis is one of the best attacking players in the world and he will complete our very young and talented group of attacking players. He will bring his ambition, drive and personality, qualities that make a Manchester United player and a player that makes the team stronger and the supporters proud of their club dimension and prestige.

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/manchester-united-complete-the-transfer-of-alexis-sanchez-from-arsenal

Seemed happy enough with it at the time. Interesting he mentioned prestige.

Once the deed is done manager has to get on with it, work with the new player and put a positive spin on it. He's hardy going to come out and say "what a load of b0ll0x".

Mourinho on Shevchenko signing "Today is a day when the dream became reality. Andrei has always been my first choice for Chelsea since I arrived. Before it was not possible, now it is for real. He has great qualities, ambition, discipline, tactical awareness and of course he is a great goalscorer.
I did not need to meet with him to convince him about Chelsea, in the same way we did not need to talk a lot about why I wanted him. Everybody knows him as a player, tactically he can play in the Chelsea system no doubt.
Milan is a big club, a great club, but for him to leave Milan for Chelsea is a big statement about where Chelsea is."

That flies in the face of a lot of what is widely accepted what really happened.

[GetOverTheBar]

Looking forward to seeing Ole getting some success.... not least so that Seanie's tiresome Mourinho obsession can perhaps be laid to rest. 

Really hoping the same, however I believe he has been thrown in the deep end. I seen Gary Neville in an interview say the other day that he should be given time like Klopp. This statement is complete bulls***, Klopp was very successful at Dortmund and was one of the most sought after manager, Ole has came from a farmers league.

With James, Rashy, Martial, Pogba all playing well I think we will get back to the glory days sooner rather than later.

At a time, when he left Dortmund they were a shambles and he'd ran them into the ground and in the relegation zone if I recall. Liverpool should be wary history doesn't repeat.

Shambles?
Finished 7th in league,Won the German Super Cup, Runners up in the German Cup and last 16 of the Champions League..
His time was up with them no doubt and compared to previous seasons it wouldn't have been as good,but he hardly left them in a shambles.

Apologies, in the relegation zone most of first half of season. Got act together during last half of season but 7th in Germany is a disaster compared to 7th in England, say. Certainly wasn't an in demand manager. In fact it was only after he announced he was leaving Dortmund started to get the act together.

Liverpool took a gamble on him after giving Rodgers the road. Klopp was unemployed. I don't recall the doors being busted down at too many clubs to take him before Liverpool got in there.