Money, Dublin and the GAA

[highorlow]

Saturday nights Kildare result puts paid to the Dubs argument that home advantage in Croke park is not home advantage.

One of the Dubs or maybe more on here have been spouting that Croker is not a home venue as Mayo got as many a crowd as them into the place over the last few years.

Well we outnumbered the home team on Saturday but I guess that wasn't enough to counter the obvious 3 point advantage a (div1 or 2) home team has from the off.

Kildare had the advantage of sleeping in their own beds and watching there own teles on the Friday night, small thing but means a lot. The Dubs have this advantage year in year out.

[mup]

You won't get a quick answer to that. In fact you won't get an answer!

This team is a one off! Out of the blue (to use the pun) has sprung up a talented 25 players - all at the same time. All full time employed lads. A miracle of our time. Playing all their games in a Neutral venue.

And they are all working. And make their own dinners.

You'd have to be a complete moron to think that all the Dublin lads who are out of college don't work.
But there are morons around.

Relax. It was in jest.

[manfromdelmonte]

Saturday nights Kildare result puts paid to the Dubs argument that home advantage in Croke park is not home advantage.

One on the Dubs or maybe more on here have been spouting that Croker is not a home venue as Mayo got as many a crowd as them into the place over the last few years.

Well we outnumbered the home team on Saturday but I guess that wasn't enough to counter the obvious 3 point advantage a (div1 or 2) home team has from the off.

Kildare had the advantage of sleeping in their own beds and watching there own teles on the Friday night, small thing but means a lot. The Dubs have this advantage year in year out.

But their home pitch is Parnell...

[Hound]

Saturday nights Kildare result puts paid to the Dubs argument that home advantage in Croke park is not home advantage.

One of the Dubs or maybe more on here have been spouting that Croker is not a home venue as Mayo got as many a crowd as them into the place over the last few years.

Well we outnumbered the home team on Saturday but I guess that wasn't enough to counter the obvious 3 point advantage a (div1 or 2) home team has from the off.

Kildare had the advantage of sleeping in their own beds and watching there own teles on the Friday night, small thing but means a lot. The Dubs have this advantage year in year out.

QED!
We'll ignore all the other qualifier results (was it really 14 away wins out of 18?) and the Connacht and Munster finals.

[johnnycool]

Saturday nights Kildare result puts paid to the Dubs argument that home advantage in Croke park is not home advantage.

One on the Dubs or maybe more on here have been spouting that Croker is not a home venue as Mayo got as many a crowd as them into the place over the last few years.

Well we outnumbered the home team on Saturday but I guess that wasn't enough to counter the obvious 3 point advantage a (div1 or 2) home team has from the off.

Kildare had the advantage of sleeping in their own beds and watching there own teles on the Friday night, small thing but means a lot. The Dubs have this advantage year in year out.

But their home pitch is Parnell...

When's the last time Dublin senior footballers played a competitive match on it?

I'm not talking about the O'Byrne cup either.

[Jinxy]

Are you saying the O'Byrne Cup isn't competitive?

[blewuporstuffed]

Saturday nights Kildare result puts paid to the Dubs argument that home advantage in Croke park is not home advantage.

One of the Dubs or maybe more on here have been spouting that Croker is not a home venue as Mayo got as many a crowd as them into the place over the last few years.

Well we outnumbered the home team on Saturday but I guess that wasn't enough to counter the obvious 3 point advantage a (div1 or 2) home team has from the off.

Kildare had the advantage of sleeping in their own beds and watching there own teles on the Friday night, small thing but means a lot. The Dubs have this advantage year in year out.

QED!
We'll ignore all the other qualifier results (was it really 14 away wins out of 18?) and the Connacht and Munster finals.

Those results are skewed by the fact that the div 3&4 teams are given home advantage in the qualifiers.

[Hound]

Saturday nights Kildare result puts paid to the Dubs argument that home advantage in Croke park is not home advantage.

One on the Dubs or maybe more on here have been spouting that Croker is not a home venue as Mayo got as many a crowd as them into the place over the last few years.

Well we outnumbered the home team on Saturday but I guess that wasn't enough to counter the obvious 3 point advantage a (div1 or 2) home team has from the off.

Kildare had the advantage of sleeping in their own beds and watching there own teles on the Friday night, small thing but means a lot. The Dubs have this advantage year in year out.

But their home pitch is Parnell...

When's the last time Dublin senior footballers played a competitive match on it?

I'm not talking about the O'Byrne cup either.

Unlike Kildare, we're not "win and at all costs". We're happy to forego home advantage to ensure as many of our fans get into the game as possible!

[Hound]

Saturday nights Kildare result puts paid to the Dubs argument that home advantage in Croke park is not home advantage.

One of the Dubs or maybe more on here have been spouting that Croker is not a home venue as Mayo got as many a crowd as them into the place over the last few years.

Well we outnumbered the home team on Saturday but I guess that wasn't enough to counter the obvious 3 point advantage a (div1 or 2) home team has from the off.

Kildare had the advantage of sleeping in their own beds and watching there own teles on the Friday night, small thing but means a lot. The Dubs have this advantage year in year out.

QED!
We'll ignore all the other qualifier results (was it really 14 away wins out of 18?) and the Connacht and Munster finals.

Those results are skewed by the fact that the div 3&4 teams are given home advantage in the qualifiers.

Not too many were moved. But you are right, the better team on the day tends to win even if they are away.

Home v Away summary
Qualifiers 4-14
Leinster 3-1
Ulster 3-2
Munster 2-3
Connacht 1-5
Total 13-25

If Galway had played Sligo in Markeivich, there would have been a clean sweep of away wins in Connacht!

Of course a lot depends on a host of factors. But saying Mayo lost to Kildare because they were away is absolute nonsense. IMO, them having the majority of fans played a huge part in recovering from 7-2 down to go in level at HT despite being well outplayed. Two very soft frees followed up by quick points brought Mayo level. There was also the COC point that went clearly over the top of the post, which would definitely have been disallowed in Croke Park through hawkeye. Second half, Kildare were simply the better team. 

[Syferus]

Saturday nights Kildare result puts paid to the Dubs argument that home advantage in Croke park is not home advantage.

One of the Dubs or maybe more on here have been spouting that Croker is not a home venue as Mayo got as many a crowd as them into the place over the last few years.

Well we outnumbered the home team on Saturday but I guess that wasn't enough to counter the obvious 3 point advantage a (div1 or 2) home team has from the off.

Kildare had the advantage of sleeping in their own beds and watching there own teles on the Friday night, small thing but means a lot. The Dubs have this advantage year in year out.

QED!
We'll ignore all the other qualifier results (was it really 14 away wins out of 18?) and the Connacht and Munster finals.

Those results are skewed by the fact that the div 3&4 teams are given home advantage in the qualifiers.

Not too many were moved. But you are right, the better team on the day tends to win even if they are away.

Home v Away summary
Qualifiers 4-14
Leinster 3-1
Ulster 3-2
Munster 2-3
Connacht 1-5
Total 13-25

If Galway had played Sligo in Markeivich, there would have been a clean sweep of away wins in Connacht!

Of course a lot depends on a host of factors. But saying Mayo lost to Kildare because they were away is absolute nonsense. IMO, them having the majority of fans played a huge part in recovering from 7-2 down to go in level at HT despite being well outplayed. Two very soft frees followed up by quick points brought Mayo level. There was also the COC point that went clearly over the top of the post, which would definitely have been disallowed in Croke Park through hawkeye. Second half, Kildare were simply the better team.

Dublin fan tries to minimise advantages, shocking a total of zero people.

[blewuporstuffed]

Saturday nights Kildare result puts paid to the Dubs argument that home advantage in Croke park is not home advantage.

One of the Dubs or maybe more on here have been spouting that Croker is not a home venue as Mayo got as many a crowd as them into the place over the last few years.

Well we outnumbered the home team on Saturday but I guess that wasn't enough to counter the obvious 3 point advantage a (div1 or 2) home team has from the off.

Kildare had the advantage of sleeping in their own beds and watching there own teles on the Friday night, small thing but means a lot. The Dubs have this advantage year in year out.

QED!
We'll ignore all the other qualifier results (was it really 14 away wins out of 18?) and the Connacht and Munster finals.

Those results are skewed by the fact that the div 3&4 teams are given home advantage in the qualifiers.

Not too many were moved. But you are right, the better team on the day tends to win even if they are away.

Home v Away summary
Qualifiers 4-14
Leinster 3-1
Ulster 3-2
Munster 2-3
Connacht 1-5
Total 13-25

If Galway had played Sligo in Markeivich, there would have been a clean sweep of away wins in Connacht!

Of course a lot depends on a host of factors. But saying Mayo lost to Kildare because they were away is absolute nonsense. IMO, them having the majority of fans played a huge part in recovering from 7-2 down to go in level at HT despite being well outplayed. Two very soft frees followed up by quick points brought Mayo level. There was also the COC point that went clearly over the top of the post, which would definitely have been disallowed in Croke Park through hawkeye. Second half, Kildare were simply the better team.

Dublin fan tries to minimise advantages, shocking a total of zero people.

I have never said that Mayo lost to Kildare because they were away. Mayo lost to Kildare, because Kildare were a better team on the day. But you cant just dismiss the advantages there are to being the home team They are just facts.

[Hound]

Saturday nights Kildare result puts paid to the Dubs argument that home advantage in Croke park is not home advantage.

One of the Dubs or maybe more on here have been spouting that Croker is not a home venue as Mayo got as many a crowd as them into the place over the last few years.

Well we outnumbered the home team on Saturday but I guess that wasn't enough to counter the obvious 3 point advantage a (div1 or 2) home team has from the off.

Kildare had the advantage of sleeping in their own beds and watching there own teles on the Friday night, small thing but means a lot. The Dubs have this advantage year in year out.

QED!
We'll ignore all the other qualifier results (was it really 14 away wins out of 18?) and the Connacht and Munster finals.

Those results are skewed by the fact that the div 3&4 teams are given home advantage in the qualifiers.

Not too many were moved. But you are right, the better team on the day tends to win even if they are away.

Home v Away summary
Qualifiers 4-14
Leinster 3-1
Ulster 3-2
Munster 2-3
Connacht 1-5
Total 13-25

If Galway had played Sligo in Markeivich, there would have been a clean sweep of away wins in Connacht!

Of course a lot depends on a host of factors. But saying Mayo lost to Kildare because they were away is absolute nonsense. IMO, them having the majority of fans played a huge part in recovering from 7-2 down to go in level at HT despite being well outplayed. Two very soft frees followed up by quick points brought Mayo level. There was also the COC point that went clearly over the top of the post, which would definitely have been disallowed in Croke Park through hawkeye. Second half, Kildare were simply the better team.

Dublin fan tries to minimise advantages, shocking a total of zero people.

I have never said that Mayo lost to Kildare because they were away. Mayo lost to Kildare, because Kildare were a better team on the day. But you cant just dismiss the advantages there are to being the home team They are just facts.

highorlow did!

Again, someone put up a very detailed basketball analysis of home/away advantage from a US study.

It concluded that player performance was completely un-impacted. It concluded that refs were influenced where the home team had a big advantage in support.

So for GAA matches with 50/50 split in attendance, the real advantage is for the home fans. Much easier and cheaper to attend games.

[blewuporstuffed]

So there is a significant advantage to be had for Dublin by playing the games in Croke park then?

[Maroon Manc]

Surely attendances have really suffered in Leinster in comparison to where they were 12/13 years ago?

[screenexile]

Saturday nights Kildare result puts paid to the Dubs argument that home advantage in Croke park is not home advantage.

One of the Dubs or maybe more on here have been spouting that Croker is not a home venue as Mayo got as many a crowd as them into the place over the last few years.

Well we outnumbered the home team on Saturday but I guess that wasn't enough to counter the obvious 3 point advantage a (div1 or 2) home team has from the off.

Kildare had the advantage of sleeping in their own beds and watching there own teles on the Friday night, small thing but means a lot. The Dubs have this advantage year in year out.

QED!
We'll ignore all the other qualifier results (was it really 14 away wins out of 18?) and the Connacht and Munster finals.

Those results are skewed by the fact that the div 3&4 teams are given home advantage in the qualifiers.

Not too many were moved. But you are right, the better team on the day tends to win even if they are away.

Home v Away summary
Qualifiers 4-14
Leinster 3-1
Ulster 3-2
Munster 2-3
Connacht 1-5
Total 13-25

If Galway had played Sligo in Markeivich, there would have been a clean sweep of away wins in Connacht!

Of course a lot depends on a host of factors. But saying Mayo lost to Kildare because they were away is absolute nonsense. IMO, them having the majority of fans played a huge part in recovering from 7-2 down to go in level at HT despite being well outplayed. Two very soft frees followed up by quick points brought Mayo level. There was also the COC point that went clearly over the top of the post, which would definitely have been disallowed in Croke Park through hawkeye. Second half, Kildare were simply the better team.

Dublin fan tries to minimise advantages, shocking a total of zero people.

I have never said that Mayo lost to Kildare because they were away. Mayo lost to Kildare, because Kildare were a better team on the day. But you cant just dismiss the advantages there are to being the home team They are just facts.

highorlow did!

Again, someone put up a very detailed basketball analysis of home/away advantage from a US study.

It concluded that player performance was completely un-impacted. It concluded that refs were influenced where the home team had a big advantage in support.

So for GAA matches with 50/50 split in attendance, the real advantage is for the home fans. Much easier and cheaper to attend games.

I may be wrong but has there not been research on this that says home advantage is worth 4 points to the home team?

Look if Dublin/Kerry/Donegal etc. go to pearse park in Longford they're still going to win but when teams are much closer in ability home advantage can be the difference.

Yes Dublin are a better team than most anyway but had they played Mayo in an AIF at McHale Park would they have won by a point like last year?! I doubt it!!