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Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« Reply #1410 on: April 19, 2017, 07:17:21 PM »
So, according to the last Assembly poll, SDLP could be left with no MPs.  The fortresses of Foyle and South Down have been breached.  Only the unionists and PBP could save the day for M Durkan in Foyle.  Only an anti SF vote can save M Ritchie.

An anti-Brexit alliance could be achieved but the APNI will struggle to be on the same side as Adams and remain a home for refugees from the collapsing and becoming less relevant UUP.

FST and South Belfast remain the battlegrounds. 

Will the fact that May will gain a huge majority making the DUP irrelevant to her affect how the DUP look on forming pacts as they will become a tiny grouping in the UK parliament with no power?
Why does it matter whether or not a party has MPs?
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« Reply #1411 on: April 19, 2017, 07:27:20 PM »
So, according to the last Assembly poll, SDLP could be left with no MPs.  The fortresses of Foyle and South Down have been breached.  Only the unionists and PBP could save the day for M Durkan in Foyle.  Only an anti SF vote can save M Ritchie.

An anti-Brexit alliance could be achieved but the APNI will struggle to be on the same side as Adams and remain a home for refugees from the collapsing and becoming less relevant UUP.

FST and South Belfast remain the battlegrounds. 

Will the fact that May will gain a huge majority making the DUP irrelevant to her affect how the DUP look on forming pacts as they will become a tiny grouping in the UK parliament with no power?
Why does it matter whether or not a party has MPs?

Essentially it is a method used to determine the success or otherwise of a party.  It can also fulfil a narrative used by others to put it in the minds of the voters that a party is in decline and they would be best to go for a winning ticket that they might hold.  Once voters shift parties and sometimes 'lend' their vote to another it can be very difficult to pull them back.

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Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« Reply #1412 on: April 19, 2017, 08:28:55 PM »
So, according to the last Assembly poll, SDLP could be left with no MPs.  The fortresses of Foyle and South Down have been breached.  Only the unionists and PBP could save the day for M Durkan in Foyle.  Only an anti SF vote can save M Ritchie.

An anti-Brexit alliance could be achieved but the APNI will struggle to be on the same side as Adams and remain a home for refugees from the collapsing and becoming less relevant UUP.

FST and South Belfast remain the battlegrounds. 

Will the fact that May will gain a huge majority making the DUP irrelevant to her affect how the DUP look on forming pacts as they will become a tiny grouping in the UK parliament with no power?
Why does it matter whether or not a party has MPs?

Essentially it is a method used to determine the success or otherwise of a party.  It can also fulfil a narrative used by others to put it in the minds of the voters that a party is in decline and they would be best to go for a winning ticket that they might hold.  Once voters shift parties and sometimes 'lend' their vote to another it can be very difficult to pull them back.
Do Assembly elections not show that anyway?
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Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« Reply #1413 on: April 19, 2017, 09:51:25 PM »
So, according to the last Assembly poll, SDLP could be left with no MPs.  The fortresses of Foyle and South Down have been breached.  Only the unionists and PBP could save the day for M Durkan in Foyle.  Only an anti SF vote can save M Ritchie.

An anti-Brexit alliance could be achieved but the APNI will struggle to be on the same side as Adams and remain a home for refugees from the collapsing and becoming less relevant UUP.

FST and South Belfast remain the battlegrounds. 

Will the fact that May will gain a huge majority making the DUP irrelevant to her affect how the DUP look on forming pacts as they will become a tiny grouping in the UK parliament with no power?
Why does it matter whether or not a party has MPs?

Essentially it is a method used to determine the success or otherwise of a party.  It can also fulfil a narrative used by others to put it in the minds of the voters that a party is in decline and they would be best to go for a winning ticket that they might hold.  Once voters shift parties and sometimes 'lend' their vote to another it can be very difficult to pull them back.
Do Assembly elections not show that anyway?

Yes but a fall or increase in number of MPs is another measure used in the same way.

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Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« Reply #1414 on: April 19, 2017, 10:19:28 PM »
Also sf don't go to westminster which you would imagine impacts their voting.


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« Reply #1416 on: April 21, 2017, 08:44:17 AM »
Also sf don't go to westminster which you would imagine impacts their voting.

It might not help but like the Assembly elections the SF voters have the chance to bloody the DUP's nose and loosen their pull with May if its another slim majority and the Shinners can take a few seats from them even if no one sits in Westminster.



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Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« Reply #1417 on: April 21, 2017, 08:49:07 AM »
Also sf don't go to westminster which you would imagine impacts their voting.

It will have a positive impact i'd say. As shown with Brexit, there's no point in sending politicians to London.

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Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« Reply #1418 on: April 21, 2017, 09:14:35 AM »
Brokenshire is going to do something about the council funding. Poor NI. Nobody cares either in Stormont or London.
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Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« Reply #1419 on: April 21, 2017, 09:18:28 AM »
Or Dublin.

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« Reply #1420 on: April 21, 2017, 10:12:13 AM »
Brokenshire is going to do something about the council funding. Poor NI. Nobody cares either in Stormont or London.

He will strike the regional rate to allow rates bills to be paid as councils have started to be paid out of the block grant and amend legislation to extend the time from three weeks for nominations of FM and DFM given election date.

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Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« Reply #1421 on: April 21, 2017, 10:49:30 AM »
Also sf don't go to westminster which you would imagine impacts their voting.

It will have a positive impact i'd say. As shown with Brexit, there's no point in sending politicians to London.

Could someone point out the arguments for SF not sitting in Westminster against the reasoning why it makes sense for the SNP to do so?

I'm just wondering if there's not a time when it would be beneficial for SF to make their voices heard in Westminster so as to embarrass the ruling parties a bit more in their own back yard.

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« Reply #1422 on: April 21, 2017, 11:00:31 AM »

I'm just wondering if there's not a time when it would be beneficial for SF to make their voices heard in Westminster so as to embarrass the ruling parties a bit more in their own back yard.

I'd actually love to hear Mary-Lou over in Westminster. 

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Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« Reply #1423 on: April 21, 2017, 11:08:20 AM »
There are over 500 English MPs  in Westminister so it doesn't matter a damn who from the North (or Scotland/Wales) take or dont taketheir seats.
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Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« Reply #1424 on: April 21, 2017, 11:13:28 AM »
There are over 500 English MPs  in Westminister so it doesn't matter a damn who from the North (or Scotland/Wales) take or dont taketheir seats.
if there is a hung parliament it does.
The SF position doesn't make sense now. The net result of their foostering is that NI is in limbo.
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