Stormont Assembly Elections 2017

Started by give her dixie, January 13, 2017, 11:42:52 AM

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Main Street

Quote from: Minder on March 03, 2017, 10:38:06 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 03, 2017, 10:32:25 PM
Is it so that under the rules, Sinn Fein as largest nationalist party, could have had a stint with their leader as first minister but refused the privilege?

You have to be the largest party (seats) to get "privilege" of First Minister
Thanks for clearing that up.

LeoMc

Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2017, 10:43:03 PM
So apparently if dup get 2 in south belfast they still can win petition of concern. Ifgreens win one then they don't. According to twitter.
They may also miss out in Lagan valley so could yet finish up on 28. Come on Bailey and Catney.

Minder

Quote from: Main Street on March 03, 2017, 10:52:10 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 03, 2017, 10:38:06 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 03, 2017, 10:32:25 PM
Is it so that under the rules, Sinn Fein as largest nationalist party, could have had a stint with their leader as first minister but refused the privilege?

You have to be the largest party (seats) to get "privilege" of First Minister
Thanks for clearing that up.

If it's level on seats, as it could be, then it goes to who has the most first preference votes for FM & that would be the DUP
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

armaghniac

Quote from: Minder on March 03, 2017, 10:45:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2017, 10:43:03 PM
So apparently if dup get 2 in south belfast they still can win petition of concern. Ifgreens win one then they don't. According to twitter.

Looks like Pat Catney may get in at DUPs expense in Lagan Valley which would mean no POC for DUP

I would have thought that the DUP would still get more UU transfers than Catney and squeeze in.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Main Street

Quote from: Minder on March 03, 2017, 10:57:45 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 03, 2017, 10:52:10 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 03, 2017, 10:38:06 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 03, 2017, 10:32:25 PM
Is it so that under the rules, Sinn Fein as largest nationalist party, could have had a stint with their leader as first minister but refused the privilege?

You have to be the largest party (seats) to get "privilege" of First Minister
Thanks for clearing that up.

If it's level on seats, as it could be, then it goes to who has the most first preference votes for FM & that would be the DUP
In practice though, the deputy can veto the first minister. I'd say the prognosis is very cloudy for the future of this new assembly.

Rois


Minder

Quote from: Main Street on March 03, 2017, 11:02:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 03, 2017, 10:57:45 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 03, 2017, 10:52:10 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 03, 2017, 10:38:06 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 03, 2017, 10:32:25 PM
Is it so that under the rules, Sinn Fein as largest nationalist party, could have had a stint with their leader as first minister but refused the privilege?

You have to be the largest party (seats) to get "privilege" of First Minister
Thanks for clearing that up.

If it's level on seats, as it could be, then it goes to who has the most first preference votes for FM & that would be the DUP
In practice though, the deputy can veto the first minister. I'd say the prognosis is very cloudy for the future of this new assembly.

Yeah I can't see how anything resembling a functioning administration can happen, not that it was great before now
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

LeoMc

Quote from: armaghniac on March 03, 2017, 10:58:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 03, 2017, 10:45:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2017, 10:43:03 PM
So apparently if dup get 2 in south belfast they still can win petition of concern. Ifgreens win one then they don't. According to twitter.

Looks like Pat Catney may get in at DUPs expense in Lagan Valley which would mean no POC for DUP

I would have thought that the DUP would still get more UU transfers than Catney and squeeze in.
sDLP got more from Palmer than DUP. Next set of UU overages will also contain a lot of her 2nd preferences.

Jim_Murphy_74

I presume even if election is deemed a poor one DUP will stick with Arlene and nominate her role of First Minister. 

That would see Shinners hamstrung on their pledge not to support Arlene, meaning no assembly to use their new found seats and a return to direct rule.

Nothing from their past suggests they will actually do something constructive.

/Jim.


Minder

"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

LeoMc

Right now we need Bailey picking up sufficient overage from Alliance and SDLP to put Pengelly or Stanford out.

Farrandeelin

Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

Harold Disgracey

That's the petition of concern gone isn't it?

Minder

"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

armaghniac

Quote from: Minder on March 03, 2017, 11:21:14 PM
Looks like Catney is in

Definite transfer pattern from the UU, Nesbitt may have achieved something after all.
The SDLP now has two seats, Upper Bann, Lagan Valley that perhaps they wouldn't have expected and which puts a better look on their day.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B