Stormont Assembly Elections 2017

[Orior]

Big Bitter Arnie Fister needs to go for there to be any hope for the immediate future...  and the DUP in general would need to change tack..

Its disgusting that just because the aul bitch has been caught out (incompetent &/or Corrupt) she and the DUP are prepared to simply put the breaks on and drag the people backwards .... It really is the lowest common denominator .. f**king B**tards when you think about it 

To save their own skin and deflect away from the real issues they are making the place we live in much worse .. much more sectarian and tribal ... its pathetic...

And then ofcourse when you watch GB TV they dont point that out .. back to the old .. "ah sure both sides are as bad as eachother" ... no they're f**king NOT 

it would sicken yer shite  ...

What are ye trying to say?

[AhNowRef]

Big Bitter Arnie Fister needs to go for there to be any hope for the immediate future...  and the DUP in general would need to change tack..

Its disgusting that just because the aul bitch has been caught out (incompetent &/or Corrupt) she and the DUP are prepared to simply put the breaks on and drag the people backwards .... It really is the lowest common denominator .. f**king B**tards when you think about it 

To save their own skin and deflect away from the real issues they are making the place we live in much worse .. much more sectarian and tribal ... its pathetic...

And then ofcourse when you watch GB TV they dont point that out .. back to the old .. "ah sure both sides are as bad as eachother" ... no they're f**king NOT 

it would sicken yer shite  ...

What are ye trying to say?

Read it slowly 

[imtommygunn]

Big Bitter Arnie Fister needs to go for there to be any hope for the immediate future...  and the DUP in general would need to change tack..

Its disgusting that just because the aul bitch has been caught out (incompetent &/or Corrupt) she and the DUP are prepared to simply put the breaks on and drag the people backwards .... It really is the lowest common denominator .. f**king B**tards when you think about it 

To save their own skin and deflect away from the real issues they are making the place we live in much worse .. much more sectarian and tribal ... its pathetic...

And then ofcourse when you watch GB TV they dont point that out .. back to the old .. "ah sure both sides are as bad as eachother" ... no they're f**king NOT 

it would sicken yer shite  ...

I have always believed they have zero interest in peace at all and are just feathering their nests. If the place progresses too much then there will be less bitterness and they will have no votes so it is in their best interests to keep it bitter.

[Take Your Points]

Excellent comparison of Foster and Trump by Eamonn Mallie

http://eamonnmallie.com/2017/02/good-night-arlene-or-hello-parlene-by-eamonn-mallie/

[Take Your Points]

SF voters are generally as much plumpers as any unionist, they won't even transfer a vote to any other non-unionist for fear of allowing any progress other than for their own party.

I think that's an inaccurate analysis TYP.

In the 2016 election, SF voters transferred 21,672 votes. 
Alliance got 768, Cons 1, DUP 111, Greens 878, Independents 83, PBP 67, PUP 10, SDLP 3049, SF 15,687, TUV 11, UKIP 31, UUP 224, WP 750.

72% of SF transferred votes went to SF candidates.  Only 14% to SDLP and 13% to non-nationalist parties.

61% of DUP transferred to DUP.

[trileacman]

SF voters are generally as much plumpers as any unionist, they won't even transfer a vote to any other non-unionist for fear of allowing any progress other than for their own party.

I think that's an inaccurate analysis TYP.

In the 2016 election, SF voters transferred 21,672 votes. 
Alliance got 768, Cons 1, DUP 111, Greens 878, Independents 83, PBP 67, PUP 10, SDLP 3049, SF 15,687, TUV 11, UKIP 31, UUP 224, WP 750.

72% of SF transferred votes went to SF candidates.  Only 14% to SDLP and 13% to non-nationalist parties.

61% of DUP transferred to DUP.

What was the sdlp transfer rate?

[Take Your Points]

SF voters are generally as much plumpers as any unionist, they won't even transfer a vote to any other non-unionist for fear of allowing any progress other than for their own party.

I think that's an inaccurate analysis TYP.

In the 2016 election, SF voters transferred 21,672 votes. 
Alliance got 768, Cons 1, DUP 111, Greens 878, Independents 83, PBP 67, PUP 10, SDLP 3049, SF 15,687, TUV 11, UKIP 31, UUP 224, WP 750.

72% of SF transferred votes went to SF candidates.  Only 14% to SDLP and 13% to non-nationalist parties.

61% of DUP transferred to DUP.

What was the sdlp transfer rate?

SDLP voters transferred 15,202 votes.
Alliance got 4,143, Cons 2, DUP 379, Greens 1,566, Independents 386, PBP 615, SDLP 5,092, SF 2,083, TUV 17, UKIP 34, UUP 759, WP 126.

34% of SDLP transferred to SDLP
13% of SDLP transferred to SF

[dec]

SF voters are generally as much plumpers as any unionist, they won't even transfer a vote to any other non-unionist for fear of allowing any progress other than for their own party.

I think that's an inaccurate analysis TYP.

In the 2016 election, SF voters transferred 21,672 votes. 
Alliance got 768, Cons 1, DUP 111, Greens 878, Independents 83, PBP 67, PUP 10, SDLP 3049, SF 15,687, TUV 11, UKIP 31, UUP 224, WP 750.

72% of SF transferred votes went to SF candidates.  Only 14% to SDLP and 13% to non-nationalist parties.

61% of DUP transferred to DUP.

What was the sdlp transfer rate?

SDLP voters transferred 15,202 votes.
Alliance got 4,143, Cons 2, DUP 379, Greens 1,566, Independents 386, PBP 615, SDLP 5,092, SF 2,083, TUV 17, UKIP 34, UUP 759, WP 126.

34% of SDLP transferred to SDLP
13% of SDLP transferred to SF

The SDLP only ran 24 candidates so in most constituencies they would have just had 1 candidate. SF ran 39 so they would have much more opportunity to transfer to another SF candidate.

[Take Your Points]

SF voters are generally as much plumpers as any unionist, they won't even transfer a vote to any other non-unionist for fear of allowing any progress other than for their own party.

I think that's an inaccurate analysis TYP.

In the 2016 election, SF voters transferred 21,672 votes. 
Alliance got 768, Cons 1, DUP 111, Greens 878, Independents 83, PBP 67, PUP 10, SDLP 3049, SF 15,687, TUV 11, UKIP 31, UUP 224, WP 750.

72% of SF transferred votes went to SF candidates.  Only 14% to SDLP and 13% to non-nationalist parties.

61% of DUP transferred to DUP.

What was the sdlp transfer rate?

SDLP voters transferred 15,202 votes.
Alliance got 4,143, Cons 2, DUP 379, Greens 1,566, Independents 386, PBP 615, SDLP 5,092, SF 2,083, TUV 17, UKIP 34, UUP 759, WP 126.

34% of SDLP transferred to SDLP
13% of SDLP transferred to SF

The SDLP only ran 24 candidates so in most constituencies they would have just had 1 candidate. SF ran 39 so they would have much more opportunity to transfer to another SF candidate.

That's why percentages are more relevant.

SF got 166,785 1st pref votes and transferred 21,672 - 13% which is poor vote management given the number of constituencies with two or more SF candidates as only 15,687 SF voters transferred to the party's other candidates.

Only 3.3% Of SF voters transferred to other parties, i.e. just over 96% of SF voters plumped for SF.

[Rossfan]

And therein lies the problem.....caused by people who don't understand PR .

[armaghniac]

And therein lies the problem.....caused by people who don't understand PR .

PR is not hard to understand, some just prefer their own cult.

[Cannon Fodder]

Re Transfers - If you look into the stats you will probably find SF were either last elected or last eliminated in most areas hence their votes weren`t distributed.

Its easy to make sweeping statements

[vallankumous]

And therein lies the problem.....caused by people who don't understand PR .

No it isn't. This was an electoral strategy by SF and people who understand PR not the lack of understanding by the voter.

[vallankumous]

I know someone pooh poohed it, but all the issues come down to Unionists failure to embrace change, to cling to outdated notions of British superiority and a denial of equality. For example on education their insistence on testing at 11 despite the detrimental effect on their own voters. Obsession over flags etc... Nothing will change until that all changes.

Unionists supported by both Governments have always claimed it was Republicans that needed to change. It's understandable why they have held that line. Unionists today are a product of the great success of consecutive British and Irish governments. Even today, in Dublin in particular, John Hume is the Hero of peace. This is deny any credit of changes made by Republicans and credit the middle man from the Nationalist community. There is no such person credited from the Unionist side as there was no change demanded from Uionnists

[Farrandeelin]

Who was that DUP man on Nolan last night? He doesn't care about what happens, so long as the UK are out of EU. Says a lot really.