China Coronavirus

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johnnycool

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
Lets imagine this is a factory.

There are always problems, defects , failures. How to you improve throughput and reduce waste, you improve detection, reduce severity and reduce occurence. We have done that with vacinnes and track trace etc.

Then you have to look at bottlenecks-ICU.

Improve capacity-more beds, more staff.

Then we have no crisis until the next one. Then we start again

The much vaunted bengoa report highlighted a lot of waste in the current system so throwing good money after bad evidently the only option on the table unless there's a huge capital investment in a new super hospital and close down a few of the regional hospitals..

Rudi

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
Lets imagine this is a factory.

There are always problems, defects , failures. How to you improve throughput and reduce waste, you improve detection, reduce severity and reduce occurence. We have done that with vacinnes and track trace etc.

Then you have to look at bottlenecks-ICU.

Improve capacity-more beds, more staff.

Then we have no crisis until the next one. Then we start again

Straight from the PFMEA manual, refresher course recently?  ;D

thebigfella

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
Lets imagine this is a factory.

There are always problems, defects , failures. How to you improve throughput and reduce waste, you improve detection, reduce severity and reduce occurence. We have done that with vacinnes and track trace etc.

Then you have to look at bottlenecks-ICU.

Improve capacity-more beds, more staff.

Then we have no crisis until the next one. Then we start again

But it is not a factory

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: Rudi on September 21, 2021, 03:21:19 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
Lets imagine this is a factory.

There are always problems, defects , failures. How to you improve throughput and reduce waste, you improve detection, reduce severity and reduce occurence. We have done that with vacinnes and track trace etc.

Then you have to look at bottlenecks-ICU.

Improve capacity-more beds, more staff.

Then we have no crisis until the next one. Then we start again

Straight from the PFMEA manual, refresher course recently?  ;D

Daily unfortunately

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: thebigfella on September 21, 2021, 03:44:20 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
Lets imagine this is a factory.

There are always problems, defects , failures. How to you improve throughput and reduce waste, you improve detection, reduce severity and reduce occurence. We have done that with vacinnes and track trace etc.

Then you have to look at bottlenecks-ICU.

Improve capacity-more beds, more staff.

Then we have no crisis until the next one. Then we start again

But it is not a factory

Yeah we know that. There is a reason massive number lean case studies either focus on hospitals or manufacturing

Armagh18

Quote from: JoG2 on September 21, 2021, 02:45:34 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 21, 2021, 02:31:12 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on September 21, 2021, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 02:17:08 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 21, 2021, 01:55:43 PM
Michelle O'Neill reckons it would be dishonest to rule out another lockdown apparently?

I can honestly say that Sinn Fein will never ever get another vote from me if that happens and I am probably one of their biggest supporters on here. Can't see a lockdown happening anyway because Boris won't want to pay for another one.

Brown smelly sandle wing of SF taking over. Nobody can seem to explain to me why after 2 years we have no extra ICU beds but we can print money hand over fist for furlough

Have we not been through this already, there is no one to staff them.
I'd say if half the money that was threw at furlough etc was thrown at finding staff it'd be sorted..

Eh? Medical professionals trained up in what, a few months? Or brought in from where in the middle of a pandemic? Maybe 'they' could through in an extra medical expertise chip in the booster jab
Maybe we'd paid nurses a decent wage and gave them decent conditions we'd have kept the ones we did have?

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: johnnycool on September 21, 2021, 03:19:48 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
Lets imagine this is a factory.

There are always problems, defects , failures. How to you improve throughput and reduce waste, you improve detection, reduce severity and reduce occurence. We have done that with vacinnes and track trace etc.

Then you have to look at bottlenecks-ICU.

Improve capacity-more beds, more staff.

Then we have no crisis until the next one. Then we start again

The much vaunted bengoa report highlighted a lot of waste in the current system so throwing good money after bad evidently the only option on the table unless there's a huge capital investment in a new super hospital and close down a few of the regional hospitals..

That has been mooted. To do that we need to develop roads west of the Bann

thebigfella

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 03:46:57 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on September 21, 2021, 03:44:20 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
Lets imagine this is a factory.

There are always problems, defects , failures. How to you improve throughput and reduce waste, you improve detection, reduce severity and reduce occurence. We have done that with vacinnes and track trace etc.

Then you have to look at bottlenecks-ICU.

Improve capacity-more beds, more staff.

Then we have no crisis until the next one. Then we start again

But it is not a factory

Yeah we know that. There is a reason massive number lean case studies either focus on hospitals or manufacturing

::)

armaghniac

Quote from: thebigfella on September 21, 2021, 03:44:20 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
Lets imagine this is a factory.

There are always problems, defects , failures. How to you improve throughput and reduce waste, you improve detection, reduce severity and reduce occurence. We have done that with vacinnes and track trace etc.

Then you have to look at bottlenecks-ICU.

Improve capacity-more beds, more staff.

Then we have no crisis until the next one. Then we start again

But it is not a factory

They cannot even get enough lorry drivers to make deliveries, so they can hardly conuure up appropriate ICU staff just like that. 
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: armaghniac on September 21, 2021, 07:06:58 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on September 21, 2021, 03:44:20 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
Lets imagine this is a factory.

There are always problems, defects , failures. How to you improve throughput and reduce waste, you improve detection, reduce severity and reduce occurence. We have done that with vacinnes and track trace etc.

Then you have to look at bottlenecks-ICU.

Improve capacity-more beds, more staff.

Then we have no crisis until the next one. Then we start again

But it is not a factory

They cannot even get enough lorry drivers to make deliveries, so they can hardly conuure up appropriate ICU staff just like that.

Yeah I'd love to see their recovery plan, they have only has 2 years to be fair

Armagh18

Quote from: armaghniac on September 21, 2021, 07:06:58 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on September 21, 2021, 03:44:20 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
Lets imagine this is a factory.

There are always problems, defects , failures. How to you improve throughput and reduce waste, you improve detection, reduce severity and reduce occurence. We have done that with vacinnes and track trace etc.

Then you have to look at bottlenecks-ICU.

Improve capacity-more beds, more staff.

Then we have no crisis until the next one. Then we start again

But it is not a factory

They cannot even get enough lorry drivers to make deliveries, so they can hardly conuure up appropriate ICU staff just like that.
Again, shite money and generally treating them like shite for years is the main reason behind this, same as nurses.

armaghniac

If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

sid waddell

Quote from: armaghniac on September 23, 2021, 09:46:21 PM
Shop worker in petrol station in Germany murdered by anti masker
https://news.sky.com/story/germany-petrol-station-worker-shot-dead-following-mask-row-as-man-arrested-on-suspicion-of-murder-12413527

this is what things have come to
Anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers are the new Incels.

The ideology of hatred, the enmity towards truth and reason and the sheer contempt for the lives of others which permeates these "movements" are reminiscent of Anders Behring Breivik and the Christchurch mass murderer.

It is terrifying.

Itchy

Quote from: Rudi on September 21, 2021, 03:21:19 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
Lets imagine this is a factory.

There are always problems, defects , failures. How to you improve throughput and reduce waste, you improve detection, reduce severity and reduce occurence. We have done that with vacinnes and track trace etc.

Then you have to look at bottlenecks-ICU.

Improve capacity-more beds, more staff.

Then we have no crisis until the next one. Then we start again

Straight from the PFMEA manual, refresher course recently?  ;D

I wonder have the HSE opened an A3 on it?

sensethetone

Quote from: Itchy on September 24, 2021, 08:06:58 AM
Quote from: Rudi on September 21, 2021, 03:21:19 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 21, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
Lets imagine this is a factory.

There are always problems, defects , failures. How to you improve throughput and reduce waste, you improve detection, reduce severity and reduce occurence. We have done that with vacinnes and track trace etc.

Then you have to look at bottlenecks-ICU.

Improve capacity-more beds, more staff.

Then we have no crisis until the next one. Then we start again

Straight from the PFMEA manual, refresher course recently?  ;D

I wonder have the HSE opened an A3 on it?

;D