NFL Division 1 2024

[seafoid]

With five games to play it looks like three teams (Derry, Mayo and Kerry) are aiming to win the league Dublin might be a 4th if the old guard Fitzsimons, McCarthy, Cluxton,Mannion start to feature in the remaining games.

As for the rest staying up is the prime objective for Monaghan,Roscommon, Tyrone and Galway as all look to get players back and in form before the championship gets up and running.

I don't think Kerry want to win the league.

[Tubberman]

Mayo and Derry both like greyhounds out of the traps in this years League campaign. However it's a long season and Mayo ultimately flattered to deceive during last years League.

Derry have approached every league campaign like this for the past 3 years and have managed to keep it going deep into the championship. The GAA media seem obsessed about timing your run, usually as an excuse for the big counties losing.  This team has been unbelievably consistent for 3 years now, so the only criticism left is to say we are trying to hard to win every game.

McFaul's best position is definitely at 6, it's a pity for him that McKinless is also so good at it and probably more dangerous as an attacking threat. McFaul very good at linking the play though.

I agree with you Estimator, some pressure on Scullion coming in to that game against a gale force wind with a packed Celtic park and very little experience in county football. He did very well in the circumstances and got most of his kick-outs off.

The big difference being that Derry needed to keep winning Leagu games to get promotion. I'm not saying it's a bad thing at all to be winning League matches but it doesn't guarantee success later in the summer either. In fact I'd probably put a division one League title above a provincial title now that they have become diluted. It depends where a team is at in its development and a League title for Derry would be another staging post marked off enroute to trying to win Sam Maguire.

There is no way a Div 1 league title is above an Ulster championship. It's not even near it in terms of fan interest, media interest and what it means to the players. Look at Clones last year for Armagh Derry vs the Mayo Galway league final.

It doesn't generate the level of fan or media interest but it's arguable which is the greater achievement. Beating the top teams in the country and lifting a national title at HQ or winning 3 games in a knockout regional competition. I think the Ulster championship is unique and can understand how it might be considered more valued but it has still been greatly diminished by it no longer being linked to the AI series.

Certainly for the likes of Kerry or Dublin, winning a national league title is a far greater achievement than hoovering up easy provincial wins.

That's because the other teams in Leinster + Munster are an embarrassment, and roll over to both Kerry & Dub.

Ask McGuinness, McGeeney, Harte, Laverty etc if they'd rather win Ulster than their respective divisions.

Maybe one of the worst takes ever on this board. Look at Mayo, homecoming for both recent titles, only to do what Mayo do later in the year.

Why are you making things up?

[yellowcard]

Mayo and Derry both like greyhounds out of the traps in this years League campaign. However it's a long season and Mayo ultimately flattered to deceive during last years League.

Derry have approached every league campaign like this for the past 3 years and have managed to keep it going deep into the championship. The GAA media seem obsessed about timing your run, usually as an excuse for the big counties losing.  This team has been unbelievably consistent for 3 years now, so the only criticism left is to say we are trying to hard to win every game.

McFaul's best position is definitely at 6, it's a pity for him that McKinless is also so good at it and probably more dangerous as an attacking threat. McFaul very good at linking the play though.

I agree with you Estimator, some pressure on Scullion coming in to that game against a gale force wind with a packed Celtic park and very little experience in county football. He did very well in the circumstances and got most of his kick-outs off.

The big difference being that Derry needed to keep winning Leagu games to get promotion. I'm not saying it's a bad thing at all to be winning League matches but it doesn't guarantee success later in the summer either. In fact I'd probably put a division one League title above a provincial title now that they have become diluted. It depends where a team is at in its development and a League title for Derry would be another staging post marked off enroute to trying to win Sam Maguire.

There is no way a Div 1 league title is above an Ulster championship. It's not even near it in terms of fan interest, media interest and what it means to the players. Look at Clones last year for Armagh Derry vs the Mayo Galway league final.

It doesn't generate the level of fan or media interest but it's arguable which is the greater achievement. Beating the top teams in the country and lifting a national title at HQ or winning 3 games in a knockout regional competition. I think the Ulster championship is unique and can understand how it might be considered more valued but it has still been greatly diminished by it no longer being linked to the AI series.

Certainly for the likes of Kerry or Dublin, winning a national league title is a far greater achievement than hoovering up easy provincial wins.

That's because the other teams in Leinster + Munster are an embarrassment, and roll over to both Kerry & Dub.

Ask McGuinness, McGeeney, Harte, Laverty etc if they'd rather win Ulster than their respective divisions.

Maybe one of the worst takes ever on this board. Look at Mayo, homecoming for both recent titles, only to do what Mayo do later in the year.

Of course they would but that's because all except Harte are playing in division 2/3 where the primary target is to get promoted.

[Armagh18]

A league title would be nice but Ulster is still the bigger prize for them.

[imtommygunn]

No harm but Down would be a good bit off winning ulster though definitely improving.

Only a few teams likely to win it.

[Cunny Funt]

With five games to play it looks like three teams (Derry, Mayo and Kerry) are aiming to win the league Dublin might be a 4th if the old guard Fitzsimons, McCarthy, Cluxton,Mannion start to feature in the remaining games.

As for the rest staying up is the prime objective for Monaghan,Roscommon, Tyrone and Galway as all look to get players back and in form before the championship gets up and running.

I don't think Kerry want to win the league.

Jack O'Connor always wants to win national titles and couldn't do so last year because of all the first team players that was missing for the opening rounds of the league.

[Armagh18]

No harm but Down would be a good bit off winning ulster though definitely improving.

Only a few teams likely to win it.

they were brutal against us last year in Clones but as you say they're improving. Laverty a shrewd operator and you could see them win an Ulster within a few years.

[screenexile]

I don't want to win the NFL or Ulster this year.

Tailor training after the NFL to peak for the All Ireland QFs. A loss to Donegal will get the knives out for everyone about "Glen lads back too early" "no depth" "no forwards" "Mickey Harte shouldn't have taken the Derry job" etc.

Nobody better at a siege mentality than Mickey Harte.

The one problem with that is Mickey never likes to lose games ever so I imagine we'll just be flat to the mat from now until we get beat!

[Mario]

With five games to play it looks like three teams (Derry, Mayo and Kerry) are aiming to win the league Dublin might be a 4th if the old guard Fitzsimons, McCarthy, Cluxton,Mannion start to feature in the remaining games.

As for the rest staying up is the prime

With five games to play it looks like three teams (Derry, Mayo and Kerry) are aiming to win the league Dublin might be a 4th if the old guard Fitzsimons, McCarthy, Cluxton,Mannion start to feature in the remaining games.

As for the rest staying up is the prime objective for Monaghan,Roscommon, Tyrone and Galway as all look to get players back and in form before the championship gets up and running.

I don't think Kerry want to win the league.

With five games to play it looks like three teams (Derry, Mayo and Kerry) are aiming to win the league Dublin might be a 4th if the old guard Fitzsimons, McCarthy, Cluxton,Mannion start to feature in the remaining games.

As for the rest staying up is the prime objective for Monaghan,Roscommon, Tyrone and Galway as all look to get players back and in form before the championship gets up and running.

I don't think Kerry want to win the league.

objective for Monaghan,Roscommon, Tyrone and Galway as all look to get players back and in form before the championship gets up and running.

I don't think Kerry want to win the league.

That's why they abandoned the Clifford rest schedule after 1 game and brought David on before half time in their second game.

[tyrone08]

I don't want to win the NFL or Ulster this year.

Tailor training after the NFL to peak for the All Ireland QFs. A loss to Donegal will get the knives out for everyone about "Glen lads back too early" "no depth" "no forwards" "Mickey Harte shouldn't have taken the Derry job" etc.

Nobody better at a siege mentality than Mickey Harte.

The one problem with that is Mickey never likes to lose games ever so I imagine we'll just be flat to the mat from now until we get beat!

The other problem is mickey hasnt beaten Kerry, Dublin or Mayo in 10 years in a championship match.

[statto]

No harm but Down would be a good bit off winning ulster though definitely improving.

Only a few teams likely to win it.

they were brutal against us last year in Clones but as you say they're improving. Laverty a shrewd operator and you could see them win an Ulster within a few years.

Can't see the basis for this been poor at underage a long time now and alot of the kilcoo players have been unable to carry their club form to county jersey.

[imtommygunn]

You've won 2 out of 3 under 20 titles though so you're not that poor at underage.

[ClubScene13]

I don't want to win the NFL or Ulster this year.

Tailor training after the NFL to peak for the All Ireland QFs. A loss to Donegal will get the knives out for everyone about "Glen lads back too early" "no depth" "no forwards" "Mickey Harte shouldn't have taken the Derry job" etc.

Nobody better at a siege mentality than Mickey Harte.

The one problem with that is Mickey never likes to lose games ever so I imagine we'll just be flat to the mat from now until we get beat!

The other problem is mickey hasnt beaten Kerry, Dublin or Mayo in 10 years in a championship match.

Would the last time this happened not be 2008 AI final? I could be missing a game, but the big gripe towards the end in Tyrone was how long we had went without cracking these 3 in championship. I can't remember a more recent one, possibly a Mayo game I'm forgetting?

[statto]

You've won 2 out of 3 under 20 titles though so you're not that poor at underage.

fair enough had overlooked that.

[screenexile]

In fairness if Down lose Murdock they are in trouble!