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Thanks for that, will download when I get home.

Kidney won't pick any of them so they'll be fine 

Ah don't get me started on that clown!

I think we're maybe 7th above Cavan and Fermanagh, even though Fermanagh beat us in the McKenna cup I think with a full team we would have enough to handle them. I think we're capable (and with a bit of luck) of beating most of the teams in Ulster on our day and I think we are more than capable of getting out of Division 3.

Any vital players? At this stage no, as we haven't really played with a settled team yet, although it's great to have Loughery back and a few of the new players seem to be decent enough

Why the interest in Antrim? I don't think we would worry Kerry too much

Interested in everyone tbh!

Antrim would be one of the teams I'd know least about, have found it next to impossible to find any footage of them playing and stuff even compared to a lot of other teams so they're like a mystery to me :p

Only stumbled across gaaboard yesterday and just noticed the county fora now so said I'd wander in here to see if I could learn something.

I could tell the media a story about someone grabbing my balls at work today? Does that mean that it happened? Also, why dont they tell the guards?

Is making up a story about having your balls grabbed at work something you're likely to do?

The Kerry folk as usual when beaten by a Tyrone outfit are trying to justify the defeat by creating an image about the game that they were beaten unfairly. This has become a great media story over the years and has become the ultimate outlet for lazy journalists who have f*ck all imagination to come up with new stories.

Standard strawman argument, I'm unlikely to bite but you may fire at will.

Very tough draw for Munster, Ulster are one of the form teams in the HEC and are still pretty underrated.

Assuming they come through the Six Nations with a clean bill of health they'll be tough to beat.

Where would you guys rate yourselves in Ulster at the end of the preseason comps and heading into the league?

Any players stand out as vitally important?

Reading not a strong point? I'm addressing the running to the media to complain approach. I don't care if it was bollock-bating or eyebrow-tweezing.

There is absolutely no reason why people should feel reluctant to tell the media if something like that happens to them on the pitch.

It's a matter for the guards in my humble opinion, but if a media campaign can help educate these animals who think this sort of assault has any place in a civilised society, never mind on a sports field, then that avenue should be exercised to the absolute maximum.

Yes I really, really am a dreadful person. I think that in future if the ref, linesmen, umpires and TV don't pick up, or act, on a bit of skulduggery which may have occured between two players (be it ball tugging, neck nipping, back scratching, ear bending, name calling, eating garlic, wearing earpieces ...) there should a day set aside for complaining to the media as that's fairly important, even if it happened or not.

My dreadfulness will follow me to my grave.

Glibly dismissing something like grabbing a fellow players' testicles is contemptible, pretty much sub-human tbh.

They should also identify the players that assaulted their opponents before the game by grabbing them down below.

This is the most laughable accusation. Derrytresk could highlight similar tactics but won't. I'd heard of deballing happening to a Hill player the day before Dromid came out with this. One of the Dromid sendings off was a second yellow for this same offence. Yet, Derrytresk will not bother to get involved in any kind of a media war highlighting this. Just because one side runs to the press to complain about testicle pulling....jaysus such a load of balls.

Suggesting that testicle grabbing should be ignored is a really, really dreadful reflection on you as a person. I assume I'm reading your post wrong but that seems to be your position?

How many players were Dublin missing from what would be considered a first choice side?

How close was it to Dublin's strongest "second-string" team as well? Or were there a lot of players that would fall between the two missing as well?

On the day, unavailable were.............................Cluxton, Nolan, OCarroll, Cahill, A Brogan, B Brogan (who just arrived back in dub the weekend) Bastick,

Cup tied DCU ...........Flynn, Mc Mahon, Mc Carthy ( 2 STARTED THE ALL IRELAND / 1 CAME ON AS A SUB)

Of the team that started against Kildare, it contained 5 of last years starting all ireland team ............Fitzsimons, Brennan, OSullivan, McCauley, Cullen

Cool, ty.

Looks to me a touch like the difference in strength of the lineups is being overstated a touch.

IMO Dublin lack a bit of depth, the first fifteen is obv excellent, but beneath that it's a bit thin.

I would have thought the dearth of rebuttals in the mass media from journalists of any kind was more an indictment of the Derrytresk position than something to be hidden behind as some sort of reverso defence.

I think we can assume there were as many journalists at the game from Tyrone as there was from Kerry, it's quite telling that none of them are launching spirited defences of the wrongly beset Derrytresk position.

In any case, it's a fairly lol suggestion that having two (presumably) equally and oppositely biased opinions on the incident will tell us anything other than that people see what they want to see.

How many players were Dublin missing from what would be considered a first choice side?

How close was it to Dublin's strongest "second-string" team as well? Or were there a lot of players that would fall between the two missing as well?