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Out of pure genuine interest what's dislikable about Sean O'Shea? I don't know him at all but seems like the quintessential dedicated, hard working, team first kind of footballer

Watch the amount of sneaky hits and closed fist tackles he does. That will change your mind

Do you reckon he gets away with more than the guy marking him in most games?

Out of pure genuine interest what's dislikable about Sean O'Shea? I don't know him at all but seems like the quintessential dedicated, hard working, team first kind of footballer 

Controversial opinion. Seanie Shea (as they like to call him) is hugely over rated (from open play). Tyrone will shut him down fairly easily. As for the other lad....where do ye even start!

Not at all controversial. He wouldn't get on the Tyrone team.

Yikes

Why the very noisy booing of Diarmuid Connolly when he came on? I would have expected more from the usually very sporting Kerry supporters.

Passions running high I suppose, bad form though from some of our crowd.

Dublin were the better team on the day. I do agree with the 2 throw balls. Factor in some handy frees given and not given. Also the last point for Roscommon should have been a penalty,push on the back of Lyons. Still thought Dublin were in control in the second half, they monopolised possession.

Fair enough, the highlights never tell the full story.

Sean O'Shea's line ball for Kerry's last point (by the time he let the kick go) was inside the line. It's a dumb rule. During the Summer (in the Rochford era anyhow) the pitch in Castlebar gets widened so their is only about a yard between the stand and the actual sideline, hard for a player to kick a long punted sideline if that rule keeps getting implemented. Probably won't matter anyhow to us as the way we are playing we wouldn't be able to kick a point if we were playing in a 5 sided cube.

Looks well behind the line here
https://twitter.com/brianphelan1981/status/1102248476610580480?s=19

Kerry are away in their second game as well.

Not that it's too late, but what's changed, apart from Dublin becoming good?

What has changed is obviously the format of the championship, which surely hasn't passed you by. This change in format sees every team playing one game at home, one game away and one game at a neutral venue, besides Dublin who play two at home and one away, and whatever team are unlucky enough to win their provincial championship and end up in Dublin's group who play two away and one at home.

I don't think it's unreasonable to attempt to bake a basic element of fairness in to a new format that is being trialled?

Dublin could rent Fitzgerald's Stadium any time they want, presumably that doesn't change the fact that it's Kerry's home ground.

no Kerry men at all on the board any more

Wake us not.

Where in any GAA literature is this type of punishment mentioned and what happens if a player does train or avail of any association privileges? And, "reports in The Star indicate".... the multi-million pound GAA behemoth doesn't have a man to dander round to the Dublin training of a Tuesday night to see DC training?

KERRY captain Paul Galvin will escape punishment for training with the county team while serving a high profile three-month suspension.

Training ban for Galvin
The half-forward returned to training with Kerry after county officials sought clarification as to whether it was okay to do so. GAA President Nickey Brennan confirmed yesterday that Kerry did indeed seek clarification and revealed that they were told it was not Croke Park's place to guide them on such an issue.

Kerry thus applied their own interpretation of the rules regarding suspended players and informed Galvin that he could train with the county squad, but after learning of Galvin's inclusion at training, GAA Director General Paraic Duffy quickly nipped the matter in the bud and sent a letter to Kerry yesterday clarifying that Galvin was not eligible to do so.

"He has not got clearance from the GAA (to train with Kerry), no," said GAA President Nickey Brennan yesterday.

"The situation is that Kerry asked for an interpretation of a rule from Croke Park which we didn't want to give because it's not our job to do that. But having lined out, I understand he trained earlier this week, Kerry have now been informed today in writing by the Ard-Stiúrthóir that it is his belief and my belief that it's contrary to rule and he's been told not to train with Kerry."
Brennan noted that while under suspension players cannot train with their county teams, though it seems the Galvin situation will be put down to a communications error.

"What happened happened and we're not going to revisit that situation," said Brennan. "But Kerry have now been communicated with today, officially, and they have accepted that communication and I expect Kerry to do what they've been told to."

Galvin won't be taken to task for the latest development, with Brennan stating that the GAA will take no further action, leaving him eligible to play in the All-Ireland final if Kerry make it.

The Kerry captain will have to revert to training on his own, and his manager is sympathetic to Galvin's plight, agreeing that the situation would hardly have arisen if they had got the "official word from Croke Park they were seeking all along".

The problem, Kerry manager Pat O'Shea explained, was that they received "conflicting reports" back from Croke Park last week before Kerry Board chairman Jerome Conway got word that Galvin might be free to train. "Since then we got a letter stating that he wasn't able to train,'' added O'Shea. The mixed signals Kerry were getting were the result of the view — expressed by an authoritative source on Monday — that the rule governing the activities of suspended players was not crystal clear. Under the sub-heading 'Effect of a Suspension,' Rule 149 stipulates that for category 1,2 and 3 offences a player cannot take part in games (including tournament and challenge) or act as a referee, umpire, linesman or sideline official.

All other offences — including category 4, under which Galvin was dealt with — result in suspension from "all functions, privileges and competitions under the Association's control, but not from membership of the association".

Galvin might have been able to train away if Kerry had not raised the issue with Croke Park and kept his activity quiet. In the past, suspensions haven't prevented players from training with their county squads and earlier in the year, when Dublin players were serving suspensions arising out of the brawl in the NFL game against Meath in Parnell Park, there wasn't a ban on them continuing to train with the squad.

The view of one manager, expressed privately, was that the spirit of suspensions were that they were "match bans" and that officialdom didn't intervene as long as individuals didn't draw attention to their activity either by posing for photographs at training sessions or by giving media interviews.

O'Shea says the Kerry management will put together a training programme for Galvin.

"I guess that's what it has to be. He is going to have to do it on is own, which he has done over the last couple of weeks. I presume he is going to have to continue to work away on his own until the suspension is up.''

O'Shea said it was easy to empathise with Galvin in the position he now finds himself in, knowing that he will only make a return to the team if they get over the semi-final against Cork.

"More from his own psychological well-being altogether, he would need to be doing something. Obviously it would have been ideal if he was able to train with the team, but that's not the case now. He trained with us on Monday night when we thought it was okay, but unfortunately the word came today that it wasn't."

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/training-ban-for-galvin-69834.html

The reason the Kerry full back line is not being discussed much is because nobody is offering tortured rationalisations for how they weren't destroyed.

This is seriously f**king absurd.

I think most people will be able to admit that it's fairly cut and dry. 'Two penalties'! Mother of god 

You'd be a good man to ask , what do the Narries handle Donaghy when they are playing the Stacks.
He doesn't seem to do a lot of damage ?

Ah he does plenty a lot of the time. He's in and out from midfield with Stacks a lot which curtails him but at that level when he's fired up it's just damage limitation.

Our full back line wouldn't be the biggest so it's generally just a case of trying to get as many bodies around him as you can (and hoping the weather is bad).

I think most people will be able to admit that it's fairly cut and dry. 'Two penalties'! Mother of god 

He did neither while in the small rectangle

We'll have to agree to differ there I suppose.

Sure it was Cillian who played the ball back across the second time for Griffin to handle on the ground.

PS, is that rule still active, that if you are lying on the ground you can play the ball away from yourself, even if you play it on the ground? It was there as a safety thing I think.

AZ look at the video, he was outside when he played it back across

It's a fairly pedantic point but there should have been two penalties and not the free out that WUM
Is claiming

You're back to claiming there was a foot block now are you?