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History shows when two teams meet again in the championship, the initial loser tends to come out on top. There was an Ulster title this year for Armagh but they bottled it in the 1st round. Don't mind McGeeney but he needs a trophy!

I agree.  McGeeney set us up too defensively for the first game in Ballybofey, he tried to take Donegal on at their own game in their back yard. When we played them in Clones we played the style of football that is more natural to this team. 

What's the justice thing? I'm not getting it

A Tyrone dick being a Tyrone dick.

The GAA are going to have to find another way of getting their tickets distributed. This Ticketmaster site is a disgrace.

Armagh have a poor record coming out of the Cusack Stand dressing rooms........

[Armagh were lucky to win it in 02 never mind win a second.]

Armagh were lucky to win it in 02 never mind win a second. In the drawn preliminary game cavanagh missed a easy chance to win it at the end, canavan injured for the replay too.

Sligo missed chances against Armagh too in the 1/4 final, and Dublin had that last gasp free at the end in the semi that hit the post.
Armagh's name was on the cup that year.

I've always said that Armagh were lucky to win in 2002 but unlucky to lose out in about 4 other campaigns.  Think we're down on the deal overall. As regards the 05 trilogy the only match that we deserved to win was the only one we lost!!  Absolutely stole a draw in the first Ulster final, the replay was a 50/50 game and we were narrowly better in the AI semi.

Wonder where the Tyrone posters who said we only beat them in the league because we were ahead in our conditioning are tonight?  Thoroughly deserved victory today. We returned to using a lot more direct ball today and using our strengths.  It makes the performance in Ballybofey all the more disappointing. Not that I would take any other opposition for granted but we REALLY don't want Donegal next week.  Are the games at a neutral venue or are the beaten finalists guaranteed a home draw?

The lad Gordon is starting to get a (well-earned) reputation for being someone who goes down too easily.  Yesterday wasn't the first time he's threw himself to the ground over the last few months.  Referees may be starting to catch on to him.  He doesn't need to do it as he's the makings of a very good footballer.

Assuming no further injuries if Armagh have Conor Turbitt and Oisin O'Neill available to play I'd give Armagh a chance with Donegal favourites. Their availability would go some way to make up for the suspensions.

I have watched him and he is very good, just think that on what he has done so far he is over-rated and statements like yours there further add to that belief.  I was just interested to see his scoring stats from play as I don't think he contributes enough to the score board.  I would take the current version of Michael Murphy over him too and wouldn't have him as second best player in the country.

On a thread that is verging on the ridiculous at times (exception David McKeown) this is by far the most ridiculous by some distance. O'Neill's playing credentials are without question.

Are Armagh and Donegal forced to share their own footage?  Between them everything would be captured.

I know in Armagh club football the clubs must go through the Armagh secretary and seek permission to record games. This permission is granted on the understanding that it must be produced if the county board requests it.  I'd imagine that would apply to inter-county football also.

I wouldn't start grugan. Wait to the heavy work is done and bring him on in second half when game opens up.

Grugan is one of the first three names on the teamsheet for me along with Rian O'Neill and Aidan Forker.  He's the man that makes the Armagh forward line tick.  His vision and passing ability are second to none.  Not a chance he doesn't start if fit.

[They should be well up for the rematch]

If Murphy struck on the full time whistle and there is no video evidence available, then I'm afraid that he will not be suspended. It doesn't mean that he is innocent, just that he didn't get caught.

Presumably both teams will have videoed  the match along with the actual TV footage but neither side are going to release footage incriminating their own players. Obviously the GAA have access to a lot more footage than we have seen publicly, otherwise I'm not sure how they could suspend the 3 Armagh lads who supposedly have received bans.

Either way there will appeals and counter appeals as this rumbles on for weeks.

As oisin said after the tyrone game, there shouldn't be any appeals. Tyrone should just take their medicine. Funny I haven't heard him say it this time.

Where was he interviewed?

Does he have to be interviewed to give his opinion? Isn't that what social media is for. He was passionate about the gaa drawing a line in the sand and saying enough is enough and that tyrone shouldn't appeal decisions. Well shoe is on the other foot now so if he was sincere come out and tell armagh to suck it up.

Same as kieran. Was having a dig at tyrone saying fergal will be sticking in an appeal then he has the cheek to appeal the single red card they got.

If he did say that (I dunno) then perhaps he should heed his own advice. Regardless, pundits are always going to be biased towards their own county.  Armagh are no different and Tyrone are no different  - its the nature of the game.

He said it on the Sunday game I think it was and I agreed with him. Most of tyrones red cards were justified and I had hoped that tyrone wouldn't appeal it but unfortunately they tried to.

Oisin is a very good pundit and is usually fair enough to be honest hopefully he will come out now that the players have been identified. As someone else has said this is like gold dust for Armagh in terms of creating a team bond. They should be well up for the rematch

Do people actually think that Armagh wouldn't have been up for the match in the first instance. Their whole season centres mostly around this game so I don't know how people are trying to spin this into a positive for Armagh.

Lets be honest, Donegal are the big winners here. I'd much prefer to have the 3 players available.

Ah of course there would be up for the match but they will feel hard done by which will help them go the extra mile. Tyrone have used this in the past so it does work lol

Exactly. I can't imagine that the Ulster final replay didn't feature in the chat amongst the Tyrone players and management in the lead up to the AI semifinal in 2005.

I wasn't at the match so I can't comment but if as you suggest there was an orchestrated campaign then Donegal should be sanctioned. The problem is that it is very hard to prove that it was orchestrated. Murphy and McGee are probably the 2 most experienced Donegal players and they were allegedly the two players who kicked off the melee on different parts of the field upon the full time whistle.

What we do know however, is that those were the only players suspended on the basis of the referees match report. We don't know if the GAA will carry out their own further investigation into the incident and what exactly kicked it off.

There's no chance of proving it. My point is Geezer and the players can turn this into a positive.  It's great that these top teams are now worried about us.  J70 I witnessed with my own eyes McMenamin and Murphy making a bee line for Grugan at the full time whistle.  As soon as Rian O'Neill and Grugan came onto the field at HT the off the ball shite started in what had been a sporting contest until then.  Rian has a reputation that the Donegal players wanted to test. McGee's cameo role whilst on as a temporary sub was funny if it wasn't so serious.  Aidan Nugent went to shake McFadden-Farry's hand at the FT whistle and he refused and started the arseholing about match.  I have said that our players should not have reacted in the way that they did and I would not be appealing any punishment for neck-rolling striking etc..

There clearly was an orchestrated campaign by the Donegal players at FT and Armagh fell hook, line and sinker for it.  I'm disappointed in our lads for allowing themselves to be suckered into it the way that they did.  I don't agree with this constant appealing suspensions. If I was Geezer I would not appeal them and use it as a massive motivating tool for Ballybofey.  We have plenty of backup in the squad and a few lads will get their chance now.  Discipline will be key to the championship game, there's no greater revenge than the scoreboard at the end of the match.   

[On another note, which Armagh player gave away the penalty?]

Watched some of the row there.  Couldn't make out who was involved and difficult to see much more than a bit of pulling and pushing. Didn't see many headlocks or striking, but unlike the Tyrone / Armagh match where the row was right in front of the papparazi, there doesn't seem to be much definitive flying about on social media.  Mind you, I'm sure the authorities will have all sorts of camera angles that we don't. 

Absolutely stupid for players to get involved in that shite (particularly Armagh players) in what turned out to be a meaningless game for them. 

On another note, which Armagh player gave away the penalty?

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