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[Eamonnca1]

and Eamonn it's a hair transplant you need first lad.....

Ha! 

[omaghjoe]

Why does one need  a "reason" to live?

And how this manifest itself in terms of a supposed higher power and religion or spiritual belief?

Are you serious?? If you have no reason to live then regretably the question would have to be asked.... why would you bother living? 

A spiritual reason for living stems from a sense of actual self, that we are more than just flesh and bones. From the intution of free will, morality, and our experience of life. And that we are being guided on our path.
If you have any or all of these things, you can try and reason them away with various theories telling you they arent there, they are an illusion but they wont really leave you, the only way you'll ever satisfy them is by listening to them and fulfiling their needs.
A religion is a group of souls who wish to consolidate their spirituality within a community

"Reason" in quotes, Joe.

I have plenty of reasons to live, if we need to list things as such that make life fulfilling. None of them have anything whatsoever to do with religion or a higher power or purpose or the motivation of a supposed afterlife. That doesn't mean I think thoughts and emotions and attachments and so on "aren't there".

But then the paradigms that are used to attempt to refute spirituality also thoroughly refute these as real also. In the materialist universe for example they are just neurons firing in certain patterns creating an illusion of our experience, and if you go further it says there is also no you as such just a wave of atoms that are constantly interchanging.

[Hardy]

Or, in other words, "you're wrong in finding no specific purpose for living. I'm right, simply because I believe there is, though I've no idea what it is."

The onus for proof of a proposition is upon the proposer.

[manfromdelmonte]

Or, in other words, "you're wrong in finding no specific purpose for living. I'm right, simply because I believe there is, though I've no idea what it is."

The onus for proof of a proposition is upon the proposer.

Exactly
It's funny when followers of faiths berate non believers with a load of mumbo jumbo nonsense that loosely references to some inner meaning or truth

Usually to cover their own doubts and fears

I'm quite happy for anyone to believe in a celestial dictator
I just think you could be doing a lot more beneficial stuff with the limited amount of time you have

[seafoid]

The key message of Christianity as far as I can see is the non admissibility of death. This is what distinguished it from pagan religions which were nature based. Christianity tells people that they are superior to nature. And that is makey uppy. There is no escaping the laws of nature.

[Rossfan]

Jesus rose from the dead

[seafoid]

Jesus rose from the dead

Yeah. Why didn't he start a second career?

[Rossfan]

Jesus rose from the dead

Yeah. Why didn't he start a second career?

He's working diligently for all the human race with the exception of herrins and rhubarbs as He knows they belong  to the other crowd.

[seafoid]

Jesus rose from the dead

Yeah. Why didn't he start a second career?

He's working diligently for all the human race with the exception of herrins and rhubarbs as He knows they belong  to the other crowd.

Why is it taking so long?

[omaghjoe]

Or, in other words, "you're wrong in finding no specific purpose for living. I'm right, simply because I believe there is, though I've no idea what it is."

The onus for proof of a proposition is upon the proposer.

The oft used reasoning to denounce faith is that is that what they believe is not "real", usually using empirical methods with a materialist outlook (neither of which prove anything I might add).
"Finding" a purpose implies that you are inventing something to live for even more so that using your intuition, anyway all things being equal we should apply those same standards to the purpose you find

AS for proving anything how do you do that? Prehaps you should look up faith in the dictionary. As a test me one thing that is real I'll guarente you I can show you that using logic its most likely not

[Rossfan]

Jesus rose from the dead

Yeah. Why didn't he start a second career?

He's working diligently for all the human race with the exception of herrins and rhubarbs as He knows they belong  to the other crowd.

Why is it taking so long?

The Lord doesn't  operate in human time.

[manfromdelmonte]

Jesus rose from the dead

Yeah. Why didn't he start a second career?

He's working diligently for all the human race with the exception of herrins and rhubarbs as He knows they belong  to the other crowd.

Why is it taking so long?

The Lord doesn't  operate in human time.

According to the bible he's been in action for only 6000 years
What did he do for the few billion years before that?
Lazy git

[seafoid]

Jesus rose from the dead

Yeah. Why didn't he start a second career?

He's working diligently for all the human race with the exception of herrins and rhubarbs as He knows they belong  to the other crowd.

Why is it taking so long?

The Lord doesn't  operate in human time.

Why is he called Ram in India?

[omaghjoe]

Jesus rose from the dead

Yeah. Why didn't he start a second career?

He's working diligently for all the human race with the exception of herrins and rhubarbs as He knows they belong  to the other crowd.

Why is it taking so long?

The Lord doesn't  operate in human time.

According to the bible he's been in action for only 6000 years
What did he do for the few billion years before that?
Lazy git

Relative to you maybe.
But if God was creator or director of the cosmos of which time is part of and varies vastly within it. Then how would he be even subject to time?

[Rossfan]

Jesus rose from the dead

Yeah. Why didn't he start a second career?

He's working diligently for all the human race with the exception of herrins and rhubarbs as He knows they belong  to the other crowd.

Why is it taking so long?

The Lord doesn't  operate in human time.

According to the bible he's been in action for only 6000 years
What did he do for the few billion years before that?
Lazy git

You fundamentalist Prods taking the Old Testament literally