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Started by T Fearon, April 06, 2017, 09:19:15 PM

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Quote from: T Fearon on April 06, 2017, 09:19:15 PM
According to the 2016 Census statistics.Must say I am pleasantly surprised.This bodes well and must be a huge sickener for the miniscule number of anti Catholics on this board and elsewhere
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Billys Boots

From RTÉ:

Today's preliminary Census data on religion has huge pertinence for the long-running school patronage debate.

The picture it reveals fits with what campaigners for change have long argued; that there is a steadily growing demand for non-religious or multi-denominational schooling here, writes Education Correspondent Emma O Kelly.

The data published today by the Central Statistics Office does not give any great detail but it shows a significant increase in the number of people stating that they have no religion, up by 73.6% on four years ago from 269,800 to 468,400.

On top of that, a further 125,000 chose not to tick any religion box when they filled out their Census form last year. This is a 78% increase on those ticking no religion box in 2011.

The Census data also shows a rise in numbers practising non-traditional minority religions here, such as Islam or Hinduism, although those numbers still remain quite small overall.

But in terms of the school patronage debate the most interesting figure contained in today's preliminary data is the fact that 45% of those who say they have no religion are in the 20 to 39 age bracket. This, even though this bracket represents just 28% of the general population.

This is the age group that is having babies, and sending young children off to school, and it's significant that it's here that the highest proportion of people stating they have no religion is found.

The Roman Catholic religion continues of course to dominate, but its dominance has fallen sharply, according to the CSO.

78% of people here identify as Catholic, compared to 84% five years earlier. That's a fall of 6%. Yet the Catholic church still runs 92% of Irish primary schools.

While 16% of the population is now not Catholic, that percentage is probably significantly higher when it comes to children.

Yet very many of those children have no option but to attend Catholic schools, where the Catholic faith is taught as an integral part of the school day.

Today's CSO summary provides one other piece of relevant data. Examining the percentage of non-Catholics by county it finds that in three large urban areas, Dublin City, Dún Laoghaire, and Galway city more than one in three of the population is non-Catholic.

Yet the overwhelming majority of publicly-funded schools in all three of these areas, at both primary and second level, continue to be controlled by the Catholic church.

The CSO data begs one further question; how many of the 84% who ticked the Roman Catholic box were baptised into that faith simply in order to secure a school place? Unfortunately the Census data won't provide any answer to that question.

For all those who are interested in a more comprehensive breakdown of this data, there's a six-month wait. The CSO plans to publish its detailed figures on religion in October.
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grounded

The comprehensive breakdown of these figures will be interesting. For example what effect (if any)has immigration/emigration had on that overall figure since the previous cencus?

Lar Naparka

78% of the Irish population is Catholic?
They are on me arse! ;D
People who attend church at times likes funerals, weddings and christenings will most likely regard themselves as Catholics without giving the matter much thought but they are Catholics by convenience only. In terms of active participation, the actual percentage is probably in single digits.
One of the largest churches in the Dublin diocese is going to be demolished to make was for social housing and a much smaller church to cater for the congregation.  It is a huge building with over an acre of floor space. It was built to accommodate 3,500 worshippers but is being downscales to 10% of that number. That's the reality in Finglas West and I doubt that it is markedly different to any other parish in the land.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/one-of-dublin-s-largest-catholic-churches-to-be-demolished-1.2961481
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T Fearon

If they feel bothered to designate then they retain at least some degree of Catholicism.It is encouraging,and many will return more actively to the fold when they see the meaninglessness of a life spent pursuing pleasures of this world only

Eamonnca1

Quote from: T Fearon on April 07, 2017, 05:09:08 PM
If they feel bothered to designate then they retain at least some degree of Catholicism.It is encouraging,and many will return more actively to the fold when they see the meaninglessness of a life spent pursuing pleasures of this world only

So the decline is going to be reversed, eh? How much do you wanna bet, Tony? $40 says the next census will show yet another decline in the catholic proportion of the population.

dec

I suspect many of them are Catholic in the same way as Dara O'Briain is Catholic

"I'm staunchly atheist, I simply don't believe in God, even if he believes in me. But I'm still Catholic, of course. Catholicism has a much broader reach than just the religion. I'm technically Catholic, it's the box you have to tick on the census form: 'Don't believe in God, but I do still hate Rangers.'"

T Fearon

If a political party canvas showed 78% of the population intended to vote for them the party top brass would be ecstatic.

It is a fantastic and pleasantly surprising result in the face of scandal and propaganda

Farrandeelin

Quote from: T Fearon on April 07, 2017, 06:26:15 PM
If a political party canvas showed 78% of the population intended to vote for them the party top brass would be ecstatic.

It is a fantastic and pleasantly surprising result in the face of scandal and propaganda
The church isn't a political party. Though it oftrn acted like one unfortunately.
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Eamonnca1

Quote from: T Fearon on April 07, 2017, 06:26:15 PM
If a political party canvas showed 78% of the population intended to vote for them the party top brass would be ecstatic.

It is a fantastic and pleasantly surprising result in the face of scandal and propaganda

If a political party had direct control of 90% of the country's schools and brainwashed children into voting for them when they grow up, it'd be a bit horrifying.

mrdeeds


T Fearon

Why would you do that.It would be like me describing myself as a non practicing atheist

mrdeeds

Quote from: T Fearon on April 07, 2017, 09:36:19 PM
Why would you do that.It would be like me describing myself as a non practicing atheist

Simple. I was born a Catholic but I don't go to mass. Christianity where we're meant to believe two penguins walked to the Middle East for a boat ride. Story book nonsense.