Again the american indians are getting shafted. Or are they over reacting?
Against
http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/dakota-access-pipeline-protests-video-photos-dogs-map-dapl-routes-north-oil-mace-standing-rock-sioux-native-american-indian-energy-transfer-kelcy-warren-bakken-lawsuit/
Pro
http://grist.org/briefly/big-business-is-diving-into-the-fight-over-the-dakota-access-pipeline/
The natives have been treated like vermin for centuries. I've been fascinated by native american history and culture for many years now, and it is heartbreaking what they have endured. I fully support the Dakota and would hope that all decent human beings would do likewise.
They already rerouted the pipeline from the city of Bismark because of worries about leaks contaminating THEIR water supply. They're still cleaning up a river in Michigan which leaked close to a million gallons into the Kalamazoo river in 2010. Then, just yesterday, there was a big explosion in a pipeline in Alabama killed at least one and started wildfires.
I wouldn't want it passing my place either.
I have friends who are raising money for the protesters.
I can't say I've kept up with this at all but I'd be inclined to side with the tribes. Sadly it seems the oil business over rules every other consideration these days.
Where is Obama on this one by the way?
Tell them to build it in Mayo.
Every Irish person will give them the oil for the pipe free.
Didn't Obama approve this?
Also isn't the alternative form of transportation for the oil by train? Which had a couple of big accidents and explosions esp one in Quebec with dozens killed a few years back, will likely happen again.
Course you could just not take the oil out of ground.... or are there other alternatives?
Still wouldn't want it in my backyard tho. I imagine it goes thru the least populated areas which is unfortunate that that is over people's land who have been shafted for centuries.
Quote from: ardchieftain on November 01, 2016, 08:08:28 PM
The natives have been treated like vermin for centuries. I've been fascinated by native american history and culture for many years now, and it is heartbreaking what they have endured. I fully support the Dakota and would hope that all decent human beings would do likewise.
Both Republican and obviously the Democrat party have signed numerous treaties with the Indian people of the course of two plus centuries and have broken virtually every treaty signed.
I am a friend of the chief of police for the Oneida tribe in Green Bay, a more caring, humble man you will never meet, I cannot imagine what is going through his mind today with all of this going on.
To destroy burial grounds is a national disgrace yet both the white House and the Senate sit on their hands and do nothing but let these poor people be beaten, bitten and jailed and for what, corporate greed.
I am appalled at the state of the US, I am disgusted at the move to the far left by 40% of the population and of the move to the far right by 40% of the population, surely to God the moderates can find a couple of candidates in the future to destroy the corrupt parties that currently are collectively f**king America up through cronyism, corruption and self interest.
The native people are right. I was reading about the environmental damage oil has done in Louisiana. People are shafted left, right and centre.
If it was the Bundys who were protesting obviously the pipeline would be rerouted.
It''s like the trains in London. In the East the trains go all the way in to the City. Cos it was easy to demolish the homes of the poor. In the West you can only get as far as Paddington. Cos the property was worth a lot more.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/explosion-alabama-shuts-gas-pipeline-shortages-43209820
Quote from: stew on November 02, 2016, 07:56:21 AM
Quote from: ardchieftain on November 01, 2016, 08:08:28 PM
The natives have been treated like vermin for centuries. I've been fascinated by native american history and culture for many years now, and it is heartbreaking what they have endured. I fully support the Dakota and would hope that all decent human beings would do likewise.
Both Republican and obviously the Democrat party have signed numerous treaties with the Indian people of the course of two plus centuries and have broken virtually every treaty signed.
I am a friend of the chief of police for the Oneida tribe in Green Bay, a more caring, humble man you will never meet, I cannot imagine what is going through his mind today with all of this going on.
To destroy burial grounds is a national disgrace yet both the white House and the Senate sit on their hands and do nothing but let these poor people be beaten, bitten and jailed and for what, corporate greed.
I am appalled at the state of the US, I am disgusted at the move to the far left by 40% of the population and of the move to the far right by 40% of the population, surely to God the moderates can find a couple of candidates in the future to destroy the corrupt parties that currently are collectively f**king America up through cronyism, corruption and self interest.
Hillary is probably to the right of Trump!
There is nothing remotely far left the USA. Bernie might just count as left of centre.
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2016, 11:01:30 AM
Quote from: stew on November 02, 2016, 07:56:21 AM
Quote from: ardchieftain on November 01, 2016, 08:08:28 PM
The natives have been treated like vermin for centuries. I've been fascinated by native american history and culture for many years now, and it is heartbreaking what they have endured. I fully support the Dakota and would hope that all decent human beings would do likewise.
Both Republican and obviously the Democrat party have signed numerous treaties with the Indian people of the course of two plus centuries and have broken virtually every treaty signed.
I am a friend of the chief of police for the Oneida tribe in Green Bay, a more caring, humble man you will never meet, I cannot imagine what is going through his mind today with all of this going on.
To destroy burial grounds is a national disgrace yet both the white House and the Senate sit on their hands and do nothing but let these poor people be beaten, bitten and jailed and for what, corporate greed.
I am appalled at the state of the US, I am disgusted at the move to the far left by 40% of the population and of the move to the far right by 40% of the population, surely to God the moderates can find a couple of candidates in the future to destroy the corrupt parties that currently are collectively f**king America up through cronyism, corruption and self interest.
Hillary is probably to the right of Trump!
There is nothing remotely far left the USA. Bernie might just count as left of centre.
Bullshit as usual, Bernie is a full blown avowed socialist but I do agree on Clinton being right of Trump, they are both left wing liberals, that said she can be anyone you need her to be if the money is there.
Quote from: stew on November 02, 2016, 01:14:46 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2016, 11:01:30 AM
Quote from: stew on November 02, 2016, 07:56:21 AM
Quote from: ardchieftain on November 01, 2016, 08:08:28 PM
The natives have been treated like vermin for centuries. I've been fascinated by native american history and culture for many years now, and it is heartbreaking what they have endured. I fully support the Dakota and would hope that all decent human beings would do likewise.
Both Republican and obviously the Democrat party have signed numerous treaties with the Indian people of the course of two plus centuries and have broken virtually every treaty signed.
I am a friend of the chief of police for the Oneida tribe in Green Bay, a more caring, humble man you will never meet, I cannot imagine what is going through his mind today with all of this going on.
To destroy burial grounds is a national disgrace yet both the white House and the Senate sit on their hands and do nothing but let these poor people be beaten, bitten and jailed and for what, corporate greed.
I am appalled at the state of the US, I am disgusted at the move to the far left by 40% of the population and of the move to the far right by 40% of the population, surely to God the moderates can find a couple of candidates in the future to destroy the corrupt parties that currently are collectively f**king America up through cronyism, corruption and self interest.
Hillary is probably to the right of Trump!
There is nothing remotely far left the USA. Bernie might just count as left of centre.
Bullshit as usual, Bernie is a full blown avowed socialist but I do agree on Clinton being right of Trump, they are both left wing liberals, that said she can be anyone you need her to be if the money is there.
Bernies a Social Democrat at best hardly a socialist. As muppet says there is no far left in popular US politics, there's people slightly less right but that's it.
Quote from: stew on November 02, 2016, 01:14:46 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2016, 11:01:30 AM
Quote from: stew on November 02, 2016, 07:56:21 AM
Quote from: ardchieftain on November 01, 2016, 08:08:28 PM
The natives have been treated like vermin for centuries. I've been fascinated by native american history and culture for many years now, and it is heartbreaking what they have endured. I fully support the Dakota and would hope that all decent human beings would do likewise.
Both Republican and obviously the Democrat party have signed numerous treaties with the Indian people of the course of two plus centuries and have broken virtually every treaty signed.
I am a friend of the chief of police for the Oneida tribe in Green Bay, a more caring, humble man you will never meet, I cannot imagine what is going through his mind today with all of this going on.
To destroy burial grounds is a national disgrace yet both the white House and the Senate sit on their hands and do nothing but let these poor people be beaten, bitten and jailed and for what, corporate greed.
I am appalled at the state of the US, I am disgusted at the move to the far left by 40% of the population and of the move to the far right by 40% of the population, surely to God the moderates can find a couple of candidates in the future to destroy the corrupt parties that currently are collectively f**king America up through cronyism, corruption and self interest.
Hillary is probably to the right of Trump!
There is nothing remotely far left the USA. Bernie might just count as left of centre.
Bullshit as usual, Bernie is a full blown avowed socialist but I do agree on Clinton being right of Trump, they are both left wing liberals, that said she can be anyone you need her to be if the money is there.
You have agreed with my argument AND called it bullshit! ;D ;D ;D
Neither Trump, the billionaire, nor Hillary are remotely left wing. You keep claiming she is a Wall Street stooge ffs. You can't have it both ways.
And not all socialists are far left. The US has spent the last few decades propping up, installing and arming: dictators, Tribal warlords, Islamic Fundamentalists, guerrilla outfits, genocidal maniacs, drug cartels and military coupe organisers; all over the world, just because someone else looked a little bit too red.
Quote from: MoChara on November 02, 2016, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: stew on November 02, 2016, 01:14:46 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2016, 11:01:30 AM
Quote from: stew on November 02, 2016, 07:56:21 AM
Quote from: ardchieftain on November 01, 2016, 08:08:28 PM
The natives have been treated like vermin for centuries. I've been fascinated by native american history and culture for many years now, and it is heartbreaking what they have endured. I fully support the Dakota and would hope that all decent human beings would do likewise.
Both Republican and obviously the Democrat party have signed numerous treaties with the Indian people of the course of two plus centuries and have broken virtually every treaty signed.
I am a friend of the chief of police for the Oneida tribe in Green Bay, a more caring, humble man you will never meet, I cannot imagine what is going through his mind today with all of this going on.
To destroy burial grounds is a national disgrace yet both the white House and the Senate sit on their hands and do nothing but let these poor people be beaten, bitten and jailed and for what, corporate greed.
I am appalled at the state of the US, I am disgusted at the move to the far left by 40% of the population and of the move to the far right by 40% of the population, surely to God the moderates can find a couple of candidates in the future to destroy the corrupt parties that currently are collectively f**king America up through cronyism, corruption and self interest.
Hillary is probably to the right of Trump!
There is nothing remotely far left the USA. Bernie might just count as left of centre.
Bullshit as usual, Bernie is a full blown avowed socialist but I do agree on Clinton being right of Trump, they are both left wing liberals, that said she can be anyone you need her to be if the money is there.
Bernies a Social Democrat at best hardly a socialist. As muppet says there is no far left in popular US politics, there's people slightly less right but that's it.
Bernie would be UK Labour party maybe Corbyn wing
I think John Trudell was Lakota. The native people understand US culture better than anyone else cos they have a different way of seeing the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSIGGpQHcH4
I don't know what to make of it all. I've seen maps and facts from both sides and I might lean towards the state on this one that they did what they were supposed to?
The natives were shafted and continue to be but we all played a part in that I think - the Irish were just as guilty as any other emigrant of driving them from their land. Too often we point the finger at everyone else - we were there too.
Quote from: The Iceman on November 02, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
I don't know what to make of it all. I've seen maps and facts from both sides and I might lean towards the state on this one that they did what they were supposed to?
The natives were shafted and continue to be but we all played a part in that I think - the Irish were just as guilty as any other emigrant of driving them from their land. Too often we point the finger at everyone else - we were there too.
You'd think the Irish would understand more than most what it is like to be at the bottom and trampled upon.
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2016, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 02, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
I don't know what to make of it all. I've seen maps and facts from both sides and I might lean towards the state on this one that they did what they were supposed to?
The natives were shafted and continue to be but we all played a part in that I think - the Irish were just as guilty as any other emigrant of driving them from their land. Too often we point the finger at everyone else - we were there too.
You'd think the Irish would understand more than most what it is like to be at the bottom and trampled upon.
I just think we distance ourselves all too easily from any blame. We have a real notion of ourselves as a nation because we are welcomed all over the world. But when we are established in those places I don't think we're as welcoming to others..
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2016, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 02, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
I don't know what to make of it all. I've seen maps and facts from both sides and I might lean towards the state on this one that they did what they were supposed to?
The natives were shafted and continue to be but we all played a part in that I think - the Irish were just as guilty as any other emigrant of driving them from their land. Too often we point the finger at everyone else - we were there too.
You'd think the Irish would understand more than most what it is like to be at the bottom and trampled upon.
That was not the Irish experience in the US. You would think Jews would be nice to minorities in a Jewish state as well. f**k you is more like it. Same for any persecuted group that gets a bit of daylight.
Quote from: seafoid on November 02, 2016, 04:04:08 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2016, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 02, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
I don't know what to make of it all. I've seen maps and facts from both sides and I might lean towards the state on this one that they did what they were supposed to?
The natives were shafted and continue to be but we all played a part in that I think - the Irish were just as guilty as any other emigrant of driving them from their land. Too often we point the finger at everyone else - we were there too.
You'd think the Irish would understand more than most what it is like to be at the bottom and trampled upon.
That was not the Irish experience in the US. You would think Jews would be nice to minorities in a Jewish state as well. f**k you is more like it. Same for any persecuted group that gets a bit of daylight.
Totally agree. Oliver Letwins parents fled the Nazis yet he was one of the MPs who voted against letting child refugees into Britain.
There was someone on the bbc news the other day, I can't remember his name but it was something like Sean O'Shaughnassey, I meant to wiki him to see if his great Grandad crossed the Irish sea in a raft with his last potato. He basically said why don't they **** off back to where they came from.
Quote from: dferg on November 02, 2016, 04:16:06 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 02, 2016, 04:04:08 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2016, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 02, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
I don't know what to make of it all. I've seen maps and facts from both sides and I might lean towards the state on this one that they did what they were supposed to?
The natives were shafted and continue to be but we all played a part in that I think - the Irish were just as guilty as any other emigrant of driving them from their land. Too often we point the finger at everyone else - we were there too.
You'd think the Irish would understand more than most what it is like to be at the bottom and trampled upon.
That was not the Irish experience in the US. You would think Jews would be nice to minorities in a Jewish state as well. f**k you is more like it. Same for any persecuted group that gets a bit of daylight.
Totally agree. Oliver Letwins parents fled the Nazis yet he was one of the MPs who voted against letting child refugees into Britain.
There was someone on the bbc news the other day, I can't remember his name but it was something like Sean O'Shaughnassey, I meant to wiki him to see if his great Grandad crossed the Irish sea in a raft with his last potato. He basically said why don't they **** off back to where they came from.
Populism is easy but unworkable answers, disguised as policies.
A populist entering power is usually like a ponzi scheme approaching its day of reckoning. The alternative is that the populist just becomes part of the system he promised to fix.
Even Nigel Farage understood this and ran away as soon as he realised people would look at him for leadership.
I thought Trump understood this as well, but I am not so sure now.
Trump did offer John Kasich full control over domestic AND foreign policy when pitching the VP slot to him.
I doubt if Trump is motivated by much more than attaining the position. Maybe to fill his ego or stick it to Obama for humiliating him. How hands on he will be will be revealed if he wins.
Most of the populist rhetoric is probably just him seizing on a platform to win the bitter white working class support. Luckily for him, he picked the right year with a horrible Democratic candidate as well.
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2016, 04:38:54 PM
Quote from: dferg on November 02, 2016, 04:16:06 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 02, 2016, 04:04:08 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2016, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 02, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
I don't know what to make of it all. I've seen maps and facts from both sides and I might lean towards the state on this one that they did what they were supposed to?
The natives were shafted and continue to be but we all played a part in that I think - the Irish were just as guilty as any other emigrant of driving them from their land. Too often we point the finger at everyone else - we were there too.
You'd think the Irish would understand more than most what it is like to be at the bottom and trampled upon.
That was not the Irish experience in the US. You would think Jews would be nice to minorities in a Jewish state as well. f**k you is more like it. Same for any persecuted group that gets a bit of daylight.
Totally agree. Oliver Letwins parents fled the Nazis yet he was one of the MPs who voted against letting child refugees into Britain.
There was someone on the bbc news the other day, I can't remember his name but it was something like Sean O'Shaughnassey, I meant to wiki him to see if his great Grandad crossed the Irish sea in a raft with his last potato. He basically said why don't they **** off back to where they came from.
Populism is easy but unworkable answers, disguised as policies.
A populist entering power is usually like a ponzi scheme approaching its day of reckoning. The alternative is that the populist just becomes part of the system he promised to fix.
Even Nigel Farage understood this and ran away as soon as he realised people would look at him for leadership.
I thought Trump understood this as well, but I am not so sure now.
Especially with social media feedback. The Leave crowd expected a 45% vote. They were shocked to get 52%. As soon as the news was out they stopped the bluster. Johnson had no more jokes. Farage was straight out of the traps denying he ever promised 350m for the NHS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz2tvnVM6oA
See you next Tuesday
It was like laughing with the lads about messing around with women and then having one come up to you saying she was pregnant. Not very funny at all.
Now the estimate for losing Euro clearing is 77bn which is 4x 350m a week
Senior hurling
And there is no way to put the genie back in the bottle
The Irish should have been nicer to the indiiians.
http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/irish-town-builds-memorial-to-thank-native-americans-who-helped-during-famine
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 02, 2016, 05:54:13 PM
The Irish should have been nicer to the indiiians.
http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/irish-town-builds-memorial-to-thank-native-americans-who-helped-during-famine
Thanks for posting that. Every Irish person should know that story.
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2016, 06:10:47 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 02, 2016, 05:54:13 PM
The Irish should have been nicer to the indiiians.
http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/irish-town-builds-memorial-to-thank-native-americans-who-helped-during-famine
Thanks for posting that. Every Irish person should know that story.
People should also read Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee. It's an uncomfortable read and puts the Standing Rock protests in perspective. I remember being sickened at the antics of those with obvious Irish roots, sickened and ashamed.
It seems to me that the Native americans have drawn a line in the sand. It appears that new government policy is to get all the native land by any means possible in the near future. Well, all exploitable land anyway.
Quote from: J70 on November 02, 2016, 04:46:33 PM
Luckily for him, he picked the right year with a horrible Democratic candidate as well.
As opposed to the fella for the last 8 years?
So what's the bold kenyan doing on the job? Learning how to dance to "Thriller".
Worst president ever.
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2016, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 02, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
I don't know what to make of it all. I've seen maps and facts from both sides and I might lean towards the state on this one that they did what they were supposed to?
The natives were shafted and continue to be but we all played a part in that I think - the Irish were just as guilty as any other emigrant of driving them from their land. Too often we point the finger at everyone else - we were there too.
You'd think the Irish would understand more than most what it is like to be at the bottom and trampled upon.
I've said it before, the free-state irish are full of "me firsts". Sure didn't they forget the 6 counties easy enough
Quote from: foxcommander on November 02, 2016, 10:55:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2016, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 02, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
I don't know what to make of it all. I've seen maps and facts from both sides and I might lean towards the state on this one that they did what they were supposed to?
The natives were shafted and continue to be but we all played a part in that I think - the Irish were just as guilty as any other emigrant of driving them from their land. Too often we point the finger at everyone else - we were there too.
You'd think the Irish would understand more than most what it is like to be at the bottom and trampled upon.
I've said it before, the free-state irish are full of "me firsts". Sure didn't they forget the 6 counties easy enough
Close enough I suppose:
(http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2586179.1458853511!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg)
Bury my heart at Wounded Knee was some book and record of what hate filled racism and super race mentality did.
One of the worst things for me was them giving blankets infected with small pox to one small tribe knowing they had no defence against it ( or measles either) as such diseases didn't exist in America before the Europeans arrived.
And the Yanks had the cheek to put the Nazis on trial in Nürnberg!!!
Quote from: The Iceman on November 02, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
I don't know what to make of it all. I've seen maps and facts from both sides and I might lean towards the state on this one that they did what they were supposed to?
The natives were shafted and continue to be but we all played a part in that I think - the Irish were just as guilty as any other emigrant of driving them from their land. Too often we point the finger at everyone else - we were there too.
Case is ongoing.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/09/dapl-dakota-sitting-rock-sioux/499178/
Quote from: foxcommander on November 02, 2016, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 02, 2016, 04:46:33 PM
Luckily for him, he picked the right year with a horrible Democratic candidate as well.
As opposed to the fella for the last 8 years?
So what's the bold kenyan doing on the job? Learning how to dance to "Thriller".
Worst president ever.
OMG, Obama's having a bit of a laugh for a minute doing a dance!!
Grow the f**k up will ya.
My point about Trump's populist nonsense stands. If you want to address that, go ahead.
Quote from: J70 on November 03, 2016, 10:22:51 AM
Quote from: foxcommander on November 02, 2016, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 02, 2016, 04:46:33 PM
Luckily for him, he picked the right year with a horrible Democratic candidate as well.
As opposed to the fella for the last 8 years?
So what's the bold kenyan doing on the job? Learning how to dance to "Thriller".
Worst president ever.
OMG, Obama's having a bit of a laugh for a minute doing a dance!!
Grow the f**k up will ya.
My point about Trump's populist nonsense stands. If you want to address that, go ahead.
So is he a comedian or a president? All he ever does is populist nonsense.
He'll be remembered for Obamacare. That's his legacy.
OMG?? Are you a 13 year old girl?
Quote from: Rossfan on November 02, 2016, 11:44:18 PM
Bury my heart at Wounded Knee was some book and record of what hate filled racism and super race mentality did.
One of the worst things for me was them giving blankets infected with small pox to one small tribe knowing they had no defence against it ( or measles either) as such diseases didn't exist in America before the Europeans arrived.
And the Yanks had the cheek to put the Nazis on trial in Nürnberg!!!
rossfan i'm an irish immigrant in a formed country. the people who gave the pox to the natives were irish and european immigrants in a yet to be formed country. this ones on us...
Quote from: foxcommander on November 03, 2016, 03:04:26 PM
So is he a comedian or a president? All he ever does is populist nonsense.
He'll be remembered for Obamacare. That's his legacy.
OMG?? Are you a 13 year old girl?
I'd say you'd give Cicero a run for his money.
Quote from: foxcommander on November 03, 2016, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 03, 2016, 10:22:51 AM
Quote from: foxcommander on November 02, 2016, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 02, 2016, 04:46:33 PM
Luckily for him, he picked the right year with a horrible Democratic candidate as well.
As opposed to the fella for the last 8 years?
So what's the bold kenyan doing on the job? Learning how to dance to "Thriller".
Worst president ever.
OMG, Obama's having a bit of a laugh for a minute doing a dance!!
Grow the f**k up will ya.
My point about Trump's populist nonsense stands. If you want to address that, go ahead.
So is he a comedian or a president? All he ever does is populist nonsense.
He'll be remembered for Obamacare. That's his legacy.
OMG?? Are you a 13 year old girl?
No, I'm not a 13 year old girl, but you might well be by your hysterical reactions to anything Obama-related.
Seriously, who else, you aside, really gives a f**k whether he or any other president or political figure did the Thriller dance somewhere at some point?
Quote from: J70 on November 03, 2016, 03:43:17 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on November 03, 2016, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 03, 2016, 10:22:51 AM
Quote from: foxcommander on November 02, 2016, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 02, 2016, 04:46:33 PM
Luckily for him, he picked the right year with a horrible Democratic candidate as well.
As opposed to the fella for the last 8 years?
So what's the bold kenyan doing on the job? Learning how to dance to "Thriller".
Worst president ever.
OMG, Obama's having a bit of a laugh for a minute doing a dance!!
Grow the f**k up will ya.
My point about Trump's populist nonsense stands. If you want to address that, go ahead.
So is he a comedian or a president? All he ever does is populist nonsense.
He'll be remembered for Obamacare. That's his legacy.
OMG?? Are you a 13 year old girl?
No, I'm not a 13 year old girl, but you might well be by your hysterical reactions to anything Obama-related.
Seriously, who else, you aside, really gives a f**k whether he or any other president or political figure did the Thriller dance somewhere at some point?
I'm not the one who said OMG :)
The POTUS dances while he sends troops to their death on foreign soil. But isn't he a great fella.
Dad explains what happened to daughter who was protesting,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp6h9U8Wb3A
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxwZv7sUkAAtOuN.jpg:large)
See some veterans are heading to help
Hundreds Of Veterans "Self-Deploy" To Standing Rock To Defend Protesters
By Colin Taylor
Posted on November 23, 2016
As the government increasingly turns to appalling violence in their efforts to subdue the unshakable will of the Standing Rock Sioux, the protesters fighting to protect their sacred lands have a new ally – our veterans.
Hundreds of veterans are planning to travel to North Dakota to join the protesters and assemble as "an unarmed, peaceful militia to defend water protectors from assault and intimidation at the hands of the militarized police force and DAPL Security." A Facebook page devoted to the event has 600 confirmed marchers and 4500 potential more. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) will be joining them at the protest site.
"This country is repressing our people. If we're going to be heroes, if we're really going to be those veterans that this country praises, well, then we need to do the things that we actually said we're going to do when we took the oath to defend the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic" says prominent veteran and former Baltimore police officer Michael A. Wood.
"I've been watching the news, how they're spraying everybody and using rubber bullets, and these guys are fighting for what they believe in and as a veteran we took an oath. We're not just there to protect Americans in foreign countries. We're here to protect this country inside of it, too" said former Marine Jade Emilio Snell.
The protesters are in desperate need of more support as police turn to riot suppression tactics commonly used in authoritarian dictatorships. Since beatings, mass arrests, and targeted sexual humiliation has failed to break the spirit of the protesters, they have turned to outright violence, using water cannons to soak protesters in freezing temperatures and unleashing brutal fusillades of rubber bullets and concussion grenades.
Hundreds have been injured from bullet fire. One protester will lose her arm after a grenade detonation sliced through her muscles in a gruesome fashion. Five to six hundred have been treated for hypothermia after being hit by water cannons. The veterans, however, are undaunted at the prospect of violence. "Bring Body armor, gas masks, earplugs AND shooting mufflers (we may be facing a sound cannon) but no drugs, alcohol or weapons" reads the Facebook page.
As we travel home for Thanksgiving, remember that three hundred years later, there are Native Americans still being repressed and abused by an uncaring government and the insatiable greed of the white man. We salute our brave veterans for standing up and protecting the American people against corporate tyranny.
Madness, fair play to the ex marines, the people were told to stand up to internal tyranny and they should.
God curse these corporate money hungry bastards, Obama should intervene and demand the republicans join him in shelving this project until a compromise is reached, sadly, they probably would not give a shite!
Don't Come To Standing Rock If You're Going To Treat It Like Burning Man
http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/11/dont-come-standing-rock-youre-going-treat-like-burning-man/
I suppose it should have been obvious that the protests would attract shite heads like this.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38203131
QuoteThe US Army has decided not to allow an oil pipeline to cross under a reservoir on land it controls in North Dakota in a move praised by protesters
Great news, for now. I dread to think what will happen in the near future though.
The Pope weighs in. Or is this Fake news?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/02/15/pope-francis-wades-into-us-oil-pipeline-dispute.html
No. It's Fox news.
Quote from: ardchieftain on December 05, 2016, 01:40:33 PM
Great news, for now. I dread to think what will happen in the near future though.
I agree, here is what is going to happen, an ex serviceman will be shot by govt forces defending the native people and ex servicemen will come out of the woodwork to exact revenge and to protect the lands from this f**king pipeline, murder and mayhem will ensue.
Good news. for Sioux.
http://standwithstandingrock.net/victory-standing-rock-sioux-tribe-court-finds-approval-dakota-access-pipeline-violated-law/
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Ruling: Trump administration shortcut environmental review; Court seeks additional briefing on whether to shut down pipeline
Washington, D.C. —
The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe won a significant victory today in its fight to protect the Tribe's drinking water and ancestral lands from the Dakota Access pipeline.
A federal judge ruled that the federal permits authorizing the pipeline to cross the Missouri River just upstream of the Standing Rock reservation, which were hastily issued by the Trump administration just days after the inauguration, violated the law in certain critical respects.
Excellent news.
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 15, 2017, 09:52:54 PM
Excellent news.
Indeed, I am delighted for the people there, I just hope it sticks.