Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[longballin]

so expert, explain what's gone wrong with great talents like Coney, McNiece and now Ronan O'Neill? nothing to do with management?... players that continue to thrive at club level 

[BennyHarp]

is time to ask why promising young players aren't coming through... McNiece and Coney walk in frustration... Ronan O'Neill not being developed either and heading the same way by all accounts. Now other U 21s being taken in... for the same to happen to them?

Ah come on Longballin, your not trying to tell us that Tyrone are the only county who can't transform every good club player into a county star. Go to any county, in fact any club, in Ireland and they'll tell you about any number of lads who were/are great minors, club players etc but didn't perform for their county at senior. This isn't just a Mickey Harte thing.

[winghalfback]

Maybe i'm wrong but I don't think the blame solely lies with Harte but it is his game plan as he is the manager. To me a lot of GAA players bemoan the roles they have to play there is no freedom of expression in most teams anymore as they have to play to a strict role which can work and has worked in the past, suppose maybe success is the ultimate price and the way the game looks doesn't matter. If players want to go to USA then away they go and enjoy it, it is some experience and can open up so many more possibilities in life. Football will always be here and plenty of other players to take the place.

[longballin]

Players are walking, others with huge potential not coming through but it's nothing to do with management... 

[redhandefender]

I heard mc geary, burns, mc nulty and Dwayne Quinn all away stateside now to. Don't blame them. This early championship round has been a rip roaring success!

I wonder has mickey tried to get niall sludden in again this year

[longballin]

Difficult one... waiting for Tyrone to finish championship has also been problematic in recent years. As well players go to USA if club championship starts late August or early September... get rid of county football backdoor would help... 

[redhandofgod]

McGeary and Burns heading to Boston this week

[nrico2006]

McGeary should have been called into the senior squad by this stage.

is time to ask why promising young players aren't coming through... McNiece and Coney walk in frustration... Ronan O'Neill not being developed either and heading the same way by all accounts. Now other U 21s being taken in... for the same to happen to them?

Ah come on Longballin, your not trying to tell us that Tyrone are the only county who can't transform every good club player into a county star. Go to any county, in fact any club, in Ireland and they'll tell you about any number of lads who were/are great minors, club players etc but didn't perform for their county at senior. This isn't just a Mickey Harte thing.

But there is a longer list of talent in Tyrone that Harte has not brought through than in most other counties.

[redhandofgod]

McGeary was in the panel training with the seniors at the end of last year/start of this year but left to concentrate on Tyrone U21s and Sigerson for St. Mary's. Harte may well treat this as a snub.

[BennyHarp]

McGeary should have been called into the senior squad by this stage.

is time to ask why promising young players aren't coming through... McNiece and Coney walk in frustration... Ronan O'Neill not being developed either and heading the same way by all accounts. Now other U 21s being taken in... for the same to happen to them?

Ah come on Longballin, your not trying to tell us that Tyrone are the only county who can't transform every good club player into a county star. Go to any county, in fact any club, in Ireland and they'll tell you about any number of lads who were/are great minors, club players etc but didn't perform for their county at senior. This isn't just a Mickey Harte thing.

But there is a longer list of talent in Tyrone that Harte has not brought through than in most other counties.

Is there?

[nrico2006]

McGeary should have been called into the senior squad by this stage.

is time to ask why promising young players aren't coming through... McNiece and Coney walk in frustration... Ronan O'Neill not being developed either and heading the same way by all accounts. Now other U 21s being taken in... for the same to happen to them?

Ah come on Longballin, your not trying to tell us that Tyrone are the only county who can't transform every good club player into a county star. Go to any county, in fact any club, in Ireland and they'll tell you about any number of lads who were/are great minors, club players etc but didn't perform for their county at senior. This isn't just a Mickey Harte thing.

But there is a longer list of talent in Tyrone that Harte has not brought through than in most other counties.

Is there?

Mulgrew, Coney, O'Neill, McDermott, Grugan to name a few who were arguably as good as there was in the country yet were not developed under Harte.

[longballin]

Plunkett Kane MOM last week Coalisland V Clonoe... 

[BennyHarp]

McGeary should have been called into the senior squad by this stage.

is time to ask why promising young players aren't coming through... McNiece and Coney walk in frustration... Ronan O'Neill not being developed either and heading the same way by all accounts. Now other U 21s being taken in... for the same to happen to them?

Ah come on Longballin, your not trying to tell us that Tyrone are the only county who can't transform every good club player into a county star. Go to any county, in fact any club, in Ireland and they'll tell you about any number of lads who were/are great minors, club players etc but didn't perform for their county at senior. This isn't just a Mickey Harte thing.

But there is a longer list of talent in Tyrone that Harte has not brought through than in most other counties.

Is there?

Mulgrew, Coney, O'Neill, McDermott, Grugan to name a few who were arguably as good as there was in the country yet were not developed under Harte.

What about other counties?

[nrico2006]

McGeary should have been called into the senior squad by this stage.

is time to ask why promising young players aren't coming through... McNiece and Coney walk in frustration... Ronan O'Neill not being developed either and heading the same way by all accounts. Now other U 21s being taken in... for the same to happen to them?

Ah come on Longballin, your not trying to tell us that Tyrone are the only county who can't transform every good club player into a county star. Go to any county, in fact any club, in Ireland and they'll tell you about any number of lads who were/are great minors, club players etc but didn't perform for their county at senior. This isn't just a Mickey Harte thing.

But there is a longer list of talent in Tyrone that Harte has not brought through than in most other counties.

Is there?

Mulgrew, Coney, O'Neill, McDermott, Grugan to name a few who were arguably as good as there was in the country yet were not developed under Harte.

What about other counties?

What about them?

[Mikhailov]

McGeary was in the panel training with the seniors at the end of last year/start of this year but left to concentrate on Tyrone U21s and Sigerson for St. Mary's. Harte may well treat this as a snub.

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What do you mean 'may treat this as a snub'. MH most definitely treats this as a snub - anyone who snubs or does anything to annoy Harte will regret it unfortunately. There are quite a few lads who have suffered because they crossed MH in some form or other and McGeary appears to have been added to the list