PuC and the Liam Miller Fundraiser

[Baile Brigín 2]

Won't be getting into it on here but I know for a fact what Liam Miller earned at United and its way in excess of 25k a week, absolutely miles off; Hence why I have strong views on this.

if you refude to get into it, why should we accept it as fact?

[Minder]

Won't be getting into it on here but I know for a fact what Liam Miller earned at United and its way in excess of 25k a week, absolutely miles off; Hence why I have strong views on this.

if you refude to get into it, why should we accept it as fact?

If there was a letter from his bank detailing his salary you wouldn't accept it

[Baile Brigín 2]

Won't be getting into it on here but I know for a fact what Liam Miller earned at United and its way in excess of 25k a week, absolutely miles off; Hence why I have strong views on this.

if you refude to get into it, why should we accept it as fact?

If there was a letter from his bank detailing his salary you wouldn't accept it

The fella claimed earlier he was one of Uniteds top earners. At a time when Rio, Rooney, Van Nistelroy etc were there? Nope. Not buying it.  He was a fringe young player.

[Maroon Manc]

He arrived on a free transfer and plenty of big clubs were in for him. You've got to be very naive to think this wasn't factored in with his salary.

[rodney trotter]

Put up a link then . He arrived on a free transfer and United doubled the wages Celtic were offering, which was 12 k a week. He wasn't on 12k a week at Celtic. Celtic aren't big wage spenders.  Especially not that type of money in 2004 ,to a 22 year old.

[Maroon Manc]

Put up a link then . He arrived on a free transfer and United doubled the wages Celtic were offering, which was 12 k a week. He wasn't on 12k a week at Celtic. Celtic aren't big wage spenders.  Especially not that type of money in 2004 ,to a 22 year old.

Do you realise Celtic's wage bill was more in 2004 then it was in 2016?

Celtic were well able to compete financially back then with the vast majority of premier league clubs.

[AZOffaly]

According to media reports of the time, Liam Miller was on £42,000 a year at Celtic, and was approaching the end of his contract. Celtic were OFFERING him £12k a week, but Man United went to £25k.

[rodney trotter]

Still no link?  He wasn't even in the Celtic first team that long
as a regular  he had a loan spell in Denmark. Yet you think Celtic were offering 25k a  week

[Maroon Manc]

You're all believing those wages on the basis of an article in one newspaper.

[Baile Brigín 2]

You're all believing those wages on the basis of an article in one newspaper.

The other alternative is a random bloke on the internet....

[Ciarrai_thuaidh]

Lads, it's fairly well known down around Cork  but Michael O'Flynn (one of the chief organisers of the event) was pushing this so strongly out of a lot of guilt. Both he and Liam Miller are from the same area around Ovens and Miller invested heavily in property with O'Flynn around the boom time..he lost big, like a lot of others. O'Flynn could afford to take the hit, but others not so much.

This added to well known awful financial management by a lot of Soccer players is the reason the family were left so short on Liam's death. There were all sorts of rumours, but from speaking to people I believe he didn't have any alochol or substance abuse problems and the issue above is the main reason for the all the fundraising.

Some of the begrudgery and horsesh*t posted in this thread when you look back at it makes me wonder what is wrong with some people. I'm just happy the right thing was done in the end and the event went well. Great to see so much being raised and the donation to the Jack O'Driscoll fund aswell. Jack is a 19 year old Footballer and Hurler who was paralysed in a freak accident earlier this year during the snowstorms. Great to see him and his family benefitting from this also.

[Syferus]

Lads, it's fairly well known down around Cork  but Michael O'Flynn (one of the chief organisers of the event) was pushing this so strongly out of a lot of guilt. Both he and Liam Miller are from the same area around Ovens and Miller invested heavily in property with O'Flynn around the boom time..he lost big, like a lot of others. O'Flynn could afford to take the hit, but others not so much.

This added to well known awful financial management by a lot of Soccer players is the reason the family were left so short on Liam's death. There were all sorts of rumours, but from speaking to people I believe he didn't have any alochol or substance abuse problems and the issue above is the main reason for the all the fundraising.

Some of the begrudgery and horsesh*t posted in this thread when you look back at it makes me wonder what is wrong with some people. I'm just happy the right thing was done in the end and the event went well. Great to see so much being raised and the donation to the Jack O'Driscoll fund aswell. Jack is a 19 year old Footballer and Hurler who was paralysed in a freak accident earlier this year during the snowstorms. Great to see him and his family benefitting from this also.

+1

There's an incredible disconnect between what even a top professional sportsperson earns and what they have at the end of their career because most are not prepared to manage those amounts of money responsibly and the lifestyle is almost by its nature expensive. Indeed most American professional basketball players are bankrupt within three years of retiring and they earn far more than Miller ever did.

That Liam Miller's family should suffer because he didn't make perfect financial decisions, and that most if not all of any remaining wealth was spent trying to keep the man alive in the first place, is utterly cruel to me.

But for this forum cruelty masquerading as 'common sense' is par for the course.

[mup]

Lads, it's fairly well known down around Cork  but Michael O'Flynn (one of the chief organisers of the event) was pushing this so strongly out of a lot of guilt. Both he and Liam Miller are from the same area around Ovens and Miller invested heavily in property with O'Flynn around the boom time..he lost big, like a lot of others. O'Flynn could afford to take the hit, but others not so much.

This added to well known awful financial management by a lot of Soccer players is the reason the family were left so short on Liam's death. There were all sorts of rumours, but from speaking to people I believe he didn't have any alochol or substance abuse problems and the issue above is the main reason for the all the fundraising.

Some of the begrudgery and horsesh*t posted in this thread when you look back at it makes me wonder what is wrong with some people. I'm just happy the right thing was done in the end and the event went well. Great to see so much being raised and the donation to the Jack O'Driscoll fund aswell. Jack is a 19 year old Footballer and Hurler who was paralysed in a freak accident earlier this year during the snowstorms. Great to see him and his family benefitting from this also.

+1

There’s an incredible disconnect between what even a top professional sportsperson earns and what they have at the end of their career because most are not prepared to manage those amounts of money responsibility and the lifestyle is almost by its nature expensive. Indeed most American professional basketball players are bankrupt within three years of retiring and they earn far more than Miller ever did.

That Liam Miller’s family should suffer because he didn’t make perfect financial decisions and that most if not all of any remaining wealth was spent trying to keep the man alive in the first place, is utterly cruel to me.

But for this forum cruelty masquerading as ‘common sense’ is par for the course.

Two great posts.

[dublin7]

Lads, it's fairly well known down around Cork  but Michael O'Flynn (one of the chief organisers of the event) was pushing this so strongly out of a lot of guilt. Both he and Liam Miller are from the same area around Ovens and Miller invested heavily in property with O'Flynn around the boom time..he lost big, like a lot of others. O'Flynn could afford to take the hit, but others not so much.

This added to well known awful financial management by a lot of Soccer players is the reason the family were left so short on Liam's death. There were all sorts of rumours, but from speaking to people I believe he didn't have any alochol or substance abuse problems and the issue above is the main reason for the all the fundraising.

Some of the begrudgery and horsesh*t posted in this thread when you look back at it makes me wonder what is wrong with some people. I'm just happy the right thing was done in the end and the event went well. Great to see so much being raised and the donation to the Jack O'Driscoll fund aswell. Jack is a 19 year old Footballer and Hurler who was paralysed in a freak accident earlier this year during the snowstorms. Great to see him and his family benefitting from this also.

+1

There's an incredible disconnect between what even a top professional sportsperson earns and what they have at the end of their career because most are not prepared to manage those amounts of money responsibility and the lifestyle is almost by its nature expensive. Indeed most American professional basketball players are bankrupt within three years of retiring and they earn far more than Miller ever did.

That Liam Miller's family should suffer because he didn't make perfect financial decisions and that most if not all of any remaining wealth was spent trying to keep the man alive in the first place, is utterly cruel to me.

But for this forum cruelty masquerading as 'common sense' is par for the course.

Two great posts.

It's rare to see a well thought out, considered, reasonable post on this thread considering the verbal diarrhoea that's been thrown at Liam Miller and his family.  Maybe now all the "football experts" posting s**te about how much Liam Miller earned might back off.

I was really disappointed in the Tom Ryan's first real interview recently as director general of GAA. Like alot of posters on this thread he couldn't see how GAA does anything wrong. Didn't mention the annual fixture chaos or issues with onfield/off the field violence at club matches. What upsets him is that the negative publicity the GAA received for how they handled holding the Liam Miller testimonial in PuC.   

[seafoid]

Lads, it's fairly well known down around Cork  but Michael O'Flynn (one of the chief organisers of the event) was pushing this so strongly out of a lot of guilt. Both he and Liam Miller are from the same area around Ovens and Miller invested heavily in property with O'Flynn around the boom time..he lost big, like a lot of others. O'Flynn could afford to take the hit, but others not so much.

This added to well known awful financial management by a lot of Soccer players is the reason the family were left so short on Liam's death. There were all sorts of rumours, but from speaking to people I believe he didn't have any alochol or substance abuse problems and the issue above is the main reason for the all the fundraising.

Some of the begrudgery and horsesh*t posted in this thread when you look back at it makes me wonder what is wrong with some people. I'm just happy the right thing was done in the end and the event went well. Great to see so much being raised and the donation to the Jack O'Driscoll fund aswell. Jack is a 19 year old Footballer and Hurler who was paralysed in a freak accident earlier this year during the snowstorms. Great to see him and his family benefitting from this also.

Maybe the stress of the crash contributed to the development of the cancer that killed him.