Too early to say this is a must win for Tyrone?
Lose first 2 in a row and your whole focus is then placed on battling to avoid relegation.
Weather not looking good hopefully Omagh be playable.
Surely Mickey has to start Kyle Coney in this one.
Showed well in his last 2 substitute appearances.
Quote from: Jeremiah O on January 29, 2019, 12:18:38 PM
Surely Mickey has to start Kyle Coney in this one.
Showed well in his last 2 substitute appearances.
Last year MH almost always held LB back so that he would get opportunities to score as space opened up. He could be doing the same with Kyle. It is when a game opens up that Kyle is at his most effective. I would rather he came on at a point where there were more options for his abilities than to see him starting and doing 40 minutes of chasing / harrying / tackling and getting no time on the ball.
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Quote from: Jeremiah O on January 29, 2019, 12:18:38 PM
Surely Mickey has to start Kyle Coney in this one.
Showed well in his last 2 substitute appearances.
Last year MH almost always held LB back so that he would get opportunities to score as space opened up. He could be doing the same with Kyle. It is when a game opens up that Kyle is at his most effective. I would rather he came on at a point where there were more options for his abilities than to see him starting and doing 40 minutes of chasing / harrying / tackling and getting no time on the ball.
Harte only started this tactic with Lee after he returned from injury for the Super 8s game with Donegal. Lee then started v Monaghan in the semi final and was a sub for the final. Earlier in the year he started every league game bar the opener v Galway, and started the first championship game v Monaghan before getting injured.
I would agree this could be a useful tactic for Coney though. For me the jury is still out on his ability to influence a tight game v strong opposition when he is being man marked. He does deserve a chance though.
Heavy snow in Tyrone doubt game be going ahead.
Game not till Sunday lads. More than likely the snow will have gone by then.
Tyrone (NFL Division One v Mayo, 3/2/2019): Niall Morgan (Éadan na dTorc); Michael McKernan (Oileán a'Ghuail), Ronan McNamee (Achadh Uí Aráin), Hugh Pat McGeary (Cabhán a'Chaortainn); Tiernan McCann (Coill an Chlochair), Rory Brennan (Trí Leac), Peter Harte (Aireagal Chiaráin); Brian Kennedy (Doire Lochain), Declan McClure (Cluain Eo); Matthew Donnelly (Trí Leac), Niall Sludden (An Droim Mhór), Kieran McGeary (Cabhán a'Chaortainn); Darren McCurry (Éadan na dTorc), Cathal McShane (Eoghan Ruadh Uí Néill), Lee Brennan (Trí Leac).
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Quote from: Jeremiah O on January 29, 2019, 12:18:38 PM
Surely Mickey has to start Kyle Coney in this one.
Showed well in his last 2 substitute appearances.
Last year MH almost always held LB back so that he would get opportunities to score as space opened up. He could be doing the same with Kyle. It is when a game opens up that Kyle is at his most effective. I would rather he came on at a point where there were more options for his abilities than to see him starting and doing 40 minutes of chasing / harrying / tackling and getting no time on the ball.
Harte only started this tactic with Lee after he returned from injury for the Super 8s game with Donegal. Lee then started v Monaghan in the semi final and was a sub for the final. Earlier in the year he started every league game bar the opener v Galway, and started the first championship game v Monaghan before getting injured.
I would agree this could be a useful tactic for Coney though. For me the jury is still out on his ability to influence a tight game v strong opposition when he is being man marked. He does deserve a chance though.
I'd say Kyle is happy to be back in and he is performing at the level. That article last year changed my opinion of him and I think he will work as hard as anyone to push on. Delighted to see him back.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 01, 2019, 10:53:08 AM
Tyrone (NFL Division One v Mayo, 3/2/2019): Niall Morgan (Éadan na dTorc); Michael McKernan (Oileán a'Ghuail), Ronan McNamee (Achadh Uí Aráin), Hugh Pat McGeary (Cabhán a'Chaortainn); Tiernan McCann (Coill an Chlochair), Rory Brennan (Trí Leac), Peter Harte (Aireagal Chiaráin); Brian Kennedy (Doire Lochain), Declan McClure (Cluain Eo); Matthew Donnelly (Trí Leac), Niall Sludden (An Droim Mhór), Kieran McGeary (Cabhán a'Chaortainn); Darren McCurry (Éadan na dTorc), Cathal McShane (Eoghan Ruadh Uí Néill), Lee Brennan (Trí Leac).
Lee Brennan ran amok last year in Castlebar. To be honest Boyler should have gotten the line for a horror tackle and Tyrone would have hammered us by even more if we had been down to 14!! Last time up in Omagh we won so it will be interesting to see if the gap has narrowed or widened between us and Tyrone since last year?
Round 1 of the league last year Tyrone lost away game by 4 points and only scored 0-8 very similar happened against Kerry last Sunday. Round 2 last year they were well beaten at home. It took until round 5 v Donegal before Tyrone showed signs of the side that would go on to the reach the AI final. What shape are Tyrone in right now, can they bounce back this weekend or will it be mid league before the best of them are seen again which might open the door for a Mayo win this Sunday?
Mayo team named. Debut for Ciaran Treacy. The two other changes sees starts for James McComack & Fionn McDonagh, the three players who drop out are Colm Boyle, Fergal Boland & Evan Regan
1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. James McCormack - Claremorris
6. Lee Keegan - Westport
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber(C)
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Ciaran Treacy - Ballina Stephenites
13. Conor Diskin - Claremorris
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2019, 03:33:39 PM
Game not till Sunday lads. More than likely the snow will have gone by then.
More snow in Omagh again tonight
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2019, 03:33:39 PM
Game not till Sunday lads. More than likely the snow will have gone by then.
More snow in Omagh again tonight
A lot more snow needed from a Mayo point of view. Very callow team selected. Looks like an FBD team.
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Game not till Sunday lads. More than likely the snow will have gone by then.
More snow in Omagh again tonight
A lot more snow needed from a Mayo point of view. Very callow team selected. Looks like an FBD team.
What do you expect? Have to blood players to fill the gaps after retirements the next couple of years.
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2019, 03:33:39 PM
Game not till Sunday lads. More than likely the snow will have gone by then.
More snow in Omagh again tonight
A lot more snow needed from a Mayo point of view. Very callow team selected. Looks like an FBD team.
Not so sure I'd agree with you there, moy. The defence is close enough to the best he has got right now. The midfielders, if they can control their tempers, will both be strong contenders for a midfield spot in games to come and the forwards do have some inexperienced lads but young Diskin and Reape have been showing well in what we have seen of them to date. Both look likely t be pressing for places when summer comes around.
Matter of fact, I'm putting my 50 cent on our side; Tyrone didn't impress me last year nor did they look the real deal the last day either.
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2019, 03:33:39 PM
Game not till Sunday lads. More than likely the snow will have gone by then.
More snow in Omagh again tonight
A lot more snow needed from a Mayo point of view. Very callow team selected. Looks like an FBD team.
What do you expect? Have to blood players to fill the gaps after retirements the next couple of years.
I expect realism. Tyrone is no place to be going with a makeshift midfield and 3 callow forwards. We could have one match-up there between Harte and Treacy e.g. ( if teams line up as selected). I think Treacy has potential but if an experienced quality player gets a run on him .......
Deal with retirements when they happen. Throwing the future under the bus is not the way forward.
Thaw on the way, pitch will be fine
Have Tyrone recovered from their McKenna Cup hangover and if so, can they improve on their points from play record in the league?
Quote from: Main Street on February 02, 2019, 01:02:32 PM
Have Tyrone recovered from their McKenna Cup hangover and if so, can they improve on their points from play record in the league?
Sure arn't Monaghan flat out strategising the new rules....fair play to them. You's'll be a force to be reckoned with in 2020!
This game not on telly? Seems to be feckin hurling on TG4
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This game not on telly? Seems to be feckin hurling on TG4
deferred coverage on tg4
Quote from: Hound on February 03, 2019, 08:02:28 AM
This game not on telly? Seems to be feckin hurling on TG4
They want to show some entertainment. Go to the match sure its at home
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Quote from: Hound on February 03, 2019, 08:02:28 AM
This game not on telly? Seems to be feckin hurling on TG4
deferred coverage on tg4
Live on the tg4 player
How does that work Tubber? I'm seeing it as deferred on player as well?
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Quote from: Hound on February 03, 2019, 08:02:28 AM
This game not on telly? Seems to be feckin hurling on TG4
deferred coverage on tg4
Live on the tg4 player
How does that work Tubber? I'm seeing it as deferred on player as well?
Yeah I just saw the same. someone told me it was live on the player, maybe they had it wrong.
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Quote from: Hound on February 03, 2019, 08:02:28 AM
This game not on telly? Seems to be feckin hurling on TG4
They want to show some entertainment. Go to the match sure its at home
Hounds from Dublin. 🙄
Mayo newbies doing very well but sounds like Tyrone have been melodeon altogether!
Harte needs to turn the hairdryer in at HT!
Fionn McDonagh playing well it seems.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 03, 2019, 03:54:25 PM
Fionn McDonagh playing well it seems.
Good to see Mayo and kerry going well. It'll be nice to see someone giving dublin a game.
Tyrone were brutal , made our bucks look mighty. Cavan will bring us back to reality next week .
Is there ever going to be protection for Aido?
Quote from: larryin89 on February 03, 2019, 04:31:54 PM
Tyrone were brutal , made our bucks look mighty. Cavan will bring us back to reality next week .
Is there ever going to be protection for Aido?
Aidan O'Shea doesn't deserve protection. Let himself down badly again today
Quote from: oakleafgael on February 03, 2019, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 03, 2019, 04:31:54 PM
Tyrone were brutal , made our bucks look mighty. Cavan will bring us back to reality next week .
Is there ever going to be protection for Aido?
Aidan O'Shea doesn't deserve protection. Let himself down badly again today
What happened??
Quote from: larryin89 on February 03, 2019, 04:31:54 PM
Tyrone were brutal , made our bucks look mighty. Cavan will bring us back to reality next week .
Was talking to someone who was at the Kerry Tyrone game last week and he was saying that Tyrone were beyond shocking in that and that he thought Kerry only looked average enough - said it was a case of the Tyrone forwards being so bad they made the Kerry defence look like world-beaters. The other thing he said was that he thought the Kerry attack was very wasteful(bar O'Shea). Said if the Kerry attack had been firing they could have scored easily scored a lot more. His theory was that Tyrone were most likely in the middle of some serious heavy training - looked stuck to the ground.
With no points after 2 games and a score difference of -13 already, looks like Tyrone will be battling relegation this year.
Delighted with that win. Two great goals. Tyrone were awful alright but did Mayo make them look poor? Hopefully the good results can continue next week.
Maybe Mayo haven't gone away you know.
Don't know what's' wrong with Tyrone, solo,solo everywhere ,even the goalie was at it, I'd expect them to solo down a rabbit hole if there was one nearby. !
Quote from: TheMaster on February 03, 2019, 04:51:17 PM
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Quote from: larryin89 on February 03, 2019, 04:31:54 PM
Tyrone were brutal , made our bucks look mighty. Cavan will bring us back to reality next week .
Is there ever going to be protection for Aido?
Aidan O'Shea doesn't deserve protection. Let himself down badly again today
What happened??
The usual non stop slabbering to the ref / linesman / whoever he's near with sneaky elbows being thrown when no one is watching.
Swan dive and rolling about to get a black card card issued when he was at fault.
Shame. His and Keegans antics make Mayo awful hard to like.
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Quote from: larryin89 on February 03, 2019, 04:31:54 PM
Tyrone were brutal , made our bucks look mighty. Cavan will bring us back to reality next week .
Is there ever going to be protection for Aido?
Aidan O'Shea doesn't deserve protection. Let himself down badly again today
What happened??
The usual non stop slabbering to the ref / linesman / whoever he's near with sneaky elbows being thrown when no one is watching.
Swan dive and rolling about to get a black card card issued when he was at fault.
Shame. His and Keegans antics make Mayo awful hard to like.
O'Shea over done the theatrics alright but gets awful abuse all through with little protection. If he reacts physically he gets the worse of It. Teams know this and target him.
Keegan was standing up for his young clubmate that the Tyrone hero was trying to do the hard man act on. Fair play to Keegan.
Hard to like. oh the irony
Ha ha the fuckin state of Tyrone
For the love of God who decided to play a hurling game on that pitch before the football....in the middle of winter after a spell of extremely bad weather
If that hurling was a stand alone fixture, I doubt there'd be 200 people at it
The County boards need to speak up
Quote from: whitey on February 03, 2019, 05:55:29 PM
For the love of God who decided to play a hurling game on that pitch before the football....in the middle of winter after a spell of extremely bad weather
If that hurling was a stand alone fixture, I doubt there'd be 200 people at it
The County boards need to speak up
Sure just stop the hurling altogether sure! Some dipsticks about
Keegans antics yet again blot an otherwise superb mayo performance.
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 03, 2019, 05:54:38 PM
Ha ha the fuckin state of Tyrone
Sounds like yer in a right state yerself at 5pm on a Sunday. Looking forward to the Monday club buddy? ;D
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Keegans antics yet again blot an otherwise superb mayo performance.
You mean like the time Cavanagh clattered him in the back in the AISF and he stood up for himself....despicable behavior
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Keegans antics yet again blot an otherwise superb mayo performance.
Keegan and Cooper from dublin are masters of the dark arts.
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Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Keegans antics yet again blot an otherwise superb mayo performance.
You mean like the time Cavanagh clattered him in the back in the AISF and he stood up for himself....despicable behavior
No more like the time he threw his GPS tracker at Dean rock when he was hitting a free. Some thing which is beyond anything any Tyrone player has done in recent years.
Trone need to sort out the forwards and fast. One of our best out the field men (harte) stuck in the full forward line? Was that the same last week?
Very few positives, though Donnelly did well bottling up O'Se and dare I say it but Morgan was a dab hand when he went on a solo run.
What's the story with Colm cav?
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 07:22:00 PM
Trone need to sort out the forwards and fast. One of our best out the field men (harte) stuck in the full forward line? Was that the same last week?
Very few positives, though Donnelly did well bottling up O'Se and dare I say it but Morgan was a dab hand when he went on a solo run.
What's the story with Colm cav?
In a game when one of our players got headbutted and ended up with 9 stitches over his eye, throwing the GPS was in the hapenny place
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Quote from: whitey on February 03, 2019, 06:26:07 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Keegans antics yet again blot an otherwise superb mayo performance.
You mean like the time Cavanagh clattered him in the back in the AISF and he stood up for himself....despicable behavior
No more like the time he threw his GPS tracker at Dean rock when he was hitting a free. Some thing which is beyond anything any Tyrone player has done in recent years.
Worse than dropping the knees onto a player on the ground who is unable to defend himself?
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 07:22:00 PM
Trone need to sort out the forwards and fast. One of our best out the field men (harte) stuck in the full forward line? Was that the same last week?
Very few positives, though Donnelly did well bottling up O'Se and dare I say it but Morgan was a dab hand when he went on a solo run.
What's the story with Colm cav?
Thought Harte was bottled up at FF in the McKenna final as well. Not sure what it's about, my only thought was it may be a play to take advantage of the offensive mark. But he's best running from midfield and distributing ball from there.
Peter Harte was brutal today. End of . Should have been subbed off
Petey had an absolute mare today. All the small things went wrong for him. His handling let him down, solos went too high and he was dispossessed, shots fell short etc. Just one of those days.
I'm hoping we're a good bit behind other teams in the fitness department. Mayo's conditioning way ahead out there today. Their runners blitzed past our defenders at will.
Sometimes you just have days when you shit the togs all round the field and the other team is on fire. Last week Kerry should have buried us, Mayo did it to us today.
LSt year in the league we steamrolled both these teams. Wonder if that was a motivating factor this year?
On a more sobering note, thought we got a glimpse of why Lee Brennan hasn't really taken off as well as we might have hoped. It was clear today that he is really lacking in a burst of speed. Against the top teams a fast corner back often has his card marked. In saying that he destroyed Mayo last year and that was a defenders day/pitch out there today.
Anyway, looking at the table and we've played both second and first place. Need to pick up points pretty quickly. Still think we comfortably avoid relegation but won't trouble 4th place or above.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 03, 2019, 05:25:35 PM
Delighted with that win. Two great goals. Tyrone were awful alright but did Mayo make them look poor? Hopefully the good results can continue next week.
Maybe Mayo haven't gone away you know.
Jaysus, that was an unexpected shot in the arm. Terrific result against one of the serious teams and they actually got a better start than we did as well. The newbies did really well and were instrumental in a good joined-up performance overall. New lads have great speed as well as being able to play a bit.
2 wins while experimenting is a great return from first 2 rounds. Another win and we should be ok in Div 1 again. Leaves more opportunities then to try different players, give the younger lads more time and build a bit of depth for Summer.
That was depressing to watch.
I think you're hard on Harte. He was the only player taking the game to Mayo in their half. He was busted late on and made errors but only for him we could have been scoreless again for the majority of it.
I just can't see what the plan is that is in any way different from last year. Are Colm and Bradley really that big of a loss in that we now look like a poor division 2 team? Has the Dublin defeat affected this team that badly? Or is it just February?
Maybe harsh on Petey but I was right down in line with the goalmouth and he made a number of really uncharacteristic simple errors (high solos etc) that cost us great positions.
To be fair the whole forward unit had a stinker. Anyway, onwards and (hopefully) upwards!
wonder where peter harte will play next week? full back? goals? must have played most positions at this stage.
The sidewards and backwards passing was very annoying, especially when a right few points down. It's as if our lads are so programmed to do it that any sense of doing something slightly different isn't an option. The best sides are finding us an easy touch to defend against.
Andy Moran is pure class
His movement is fantastic.
Worst I have seen Tyrone in years though early season so I expect they will improve a lot.
Quote from: Gold on February 03, 2019, 09:58:21 PM
Andy Moran is pure class
He is. Kept shouting to keep heads and eyes up at the start when Mayo were making hard work of a middlin Tyrone side. He's a gem. As are Higgins and Keegan. Mayo look good.
Perhaps with Tyrone playing no sweeper system it actually highlights how poor defensively Weare..Moran had a field day - is is just me or does anyone else think mc namee is not up to it.
Up front we can't score - we don't have marquee forward hopefully
Mc Aliskey gets back sooner rather than later
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Quote from: TheMaster on February 03, 2019, 04:51:17 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on February 03, 2019, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 03, 2019, 04:31:54 PM
Tyrone were brutal , made our bucks look mighty. Cavan will bring us back to reality next week .
Is there ever going to be protection for Aido?
Aidan O'Shea doesn't deserve protection. Let himself down badly again today
What happened??
The usual non stop slabbering to the ref / linesman / whoever he's near with sneaky elbows being thrown when no one is watching.
Swan dive and rolling about to get a black card card issued when he was at fault.
Shame. His and Keegans antics make Mayo awful hard to like.
That should have been a straight red, cheap, trampish shot
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Keegans antics yet again blot an otherwise superb mayo performance.
I'd have been disgusted if Keegan hadn't bailed in, Tyrone lad was acting the hard man against a young buck and didn't like it when it was given back to him. What's Keegan meant to do? Stand round and watch his club mate getting mauled?
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 07:17:51 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 03, 2019, 06:26:07 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Keegans antics yet again blot an otherwise superb mayo performance.
You mean like the time Cavanagh clattered him in the back in the AISF and he stood up for himself....despicable behavior
No more like the time he threw his GPS tracker at Dean rock when he was hitting a free. Some thing which is beyond anything any Tyrone player has done in recent years.
Exhibit A
https://youtu.be/y3Aqyr433a4
Keegan did right and I'd love him on Tyrone side.
I know you have to try things out in the league but playing without yer sweeper was madness, over the three years we've struggled big time against defensive teams.
Yer passing in the final third was very poor, Higgins was made look exceptional by the amount of ball kicked directly to him
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2019, 09:45:37 PM
The sidewards and backwards passing was very annoying, especially when a right few points down. It's as if our lads are so programmed to do it that any sense of doing something slightly different isn't an option. The best sides are finding us an easy touch to defend against.
This really irritated me. 7 points down with 25 minutes left and we're backwards passing. It's like they want to wait until the opposition makes a mistake before taking the ball past the 21.
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2019, 10:26:59 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 03, 2019, 09:58:21 PM
Andy Moran is pure class
He is. Kept shouting to keep heads and eyes up at the start when Mayo were making hard work of a middlin Tyrone side. He's a gem. As are Higgins and Keegan. Mayo look good.
The thing about Andy and Zippy: Andy has never grown up. I mean that in the best possible way. He has never got jaded or thought of retiring. While he can play he will play. Some day somebody will have to take him by the arm and lead him home.
Higgins will still be quicker at 40 than 99% of 20 yr olds.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 03, 2019, 10:49:14 PM
I know you have to try things out in the league but playing without yer sweeper was madness, over the three years we've struggled big time against defensive teams.
Yer passing in the final third was very poor, Higgins was made look exceptional by the amount of ball kicked directly to him
We are trying things as well. I'm reluctant to comment on another county, but here is an observation. Tyrone might not have been as defensive as we've come to expect but they had the guts of their AI team out there and quality players should be able to deal with a bit of tweaking and express themselves.
For me, today was mostly about Mayo and what we were doing. For me this was one of those performances that can turn out to
be a defining one. I admit I was very dubious about selection. Thought it was far too callow. How wrong I was!!
Okay, it is still early days. Mayo usually transition quickly and on today's evidence we are transitioning very nicely.
Great win today, should have enough now to avoid the last day relegation fears of the past few years. Very good performances all round although Tyrone were dire. We owed them after the hiding in Castlebar last year though. Free taking for Tyrone has to be a worry, brutal misses today from easy positions.
Not sure why anyone's whinging about keegan, it was handbags stuff and from a mayo point of view, good to see him standing up for his rookie clubmate.
What did Tyrone supporters think of Morgan playing fly keeper? I thought it was nervy enough but if he was a bit more assured, could be a good option for later in the year. If he makes a f*ck up though, he'll be pilloried for it
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 03, 2019, 10:49:14 PM
I know you have to try things out in the league but playing without yer sweeper was madness, over the three years we've struggled big time against defensive teams.
Yer passing in the final third was very poor, Higgins was made look exceptional by the amount of ball kicked directly to him
We are trying things as well. I'm reluctant to comment on another county, but here is an observation. Tyrone might not have been as defensive as we've come to expect but they had the guts of their AI team out there and quality players should be able to deal with a bit of tweaking and express themselves.
For me, today was mostly about Mayo and what we were doing. For me this was one of those performances that can turn out to
be a defining one. I admit I was very dubious about selection. Thought it was far too callow. How wrong I was!!
Okay, it is still early days. Mayo usually transition quickly and on today's evidence we are transitioning very nicely.
Was it that callow? 11 of that starting team today has played in AI semi final or finals. Young/new players going into an experienced team like that is a dream environment to impress and Tracey,McDonagh certainly excelled today.
On Tyrone as i said already in this thread it took them until round 5 v Donegal last year before they showed signs of the side that would go on to the reach the AI final and maybe the same could happen for them again this year.
Good news to wake up to this morning - a welcome 2 points, and not a win you would be banking on when the fixtures were released.
Will watch the game after work, so nothing specific to add.
Two early wins mean the league will have a different feel for Mayo - instead of being under pressure from the start, we have the luxury of trying some things. We can keep playing the young blood and different combinations within the various lines.
One question - is the word 'callow' widely used in Ireland? I've seen it more in the last couple of pages of this thread than I've seen / heard the word my entire life! ;D
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Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Keegans antics yet again blot an otherwise superb mayo performance.
I'd have been disgusted if Keegan hadn't bailed in, Tyrone lad was acting the hard man against a young buck and didn't like it when it was given back to him. What's Keegan meant to do? Stand round and watch his club mate getting mauled?
Who was the Tyrone player
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 07:22:00 PM
Trone need to sort out the forwards and fast. One of our best out the field men (harte) stuck in the full forward line? Was that the same last week?
Very few positives, though Donnelly did well bottling up O'Se and dare I say it but Morgan was a dab hand when he went on a solo run.
What's the story with Colm cav?
What game were you watching? O'Shea ragdolled Donnelly on a few occasions and had Mattie Donnelly sitting at FB when he took his couple of minutes inside completely out of the game.
As for the lads saying Keegan done this and that. To be honest, you are deflecting. Mayo bossed Tyrone. Keegan done nothing wrong, as mentioned his clubmate was getting a bit of treatment, of course you want to see him run in and help his teammate.
Not a mention of Conor Meyler coming on and running straight over to O'Shea throwing what looked to be straight punches. Clown of a lad, always lets himself down getting involved in niggle. That was not the type of fight that Tyrone needed to show - and certainly not when they were already hammered out the gate.
To the tyrone boys, I wouldnt get too worried yet to be honest. It takes a good bit of time for a team to get over an all ireland final loss as we well know. They have to be given time to rest and get back into it, it was clear our boys have alot more work done. While we didnt want it at the time our early summer exit may stand to us in the long run.
Trick for Tyrone is to make sure you beat the likes or Roscommon, Monaghan and Cavan. As good as we were today in parts, wouldnt surprise me if we go to sleep next week against Cavan and calve out 2 points to them.
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on February 04, 2019, 01:44:12 AM
One question - is the word 'callow' widely used in Ireland? I've seen it more in the last couple of pages of this thread than I've seen / heard the word my entire life! ;D
It's not widely used. Moysider must have been spending a lot of time down at the library during all this bad weather.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on February 04, 2019, 12:46:33 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on February 04, 2019, 01:44:12 AM
One question - is the word 'callow' widely used in Ireland? I've seen it more in the last couple of pages of this thread than I've seen / heard the word my entire life! ;D
It's not widely used. Moysider must have been spending a lot of time down at the library during all this bad weather.
Or time down by the Shannon outside Athlone.
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 04, 2019, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 07:22:00 PM
Trone need to sort out the forwards and fast. One of our best out the field men (harte) stuck in the full forward line? Was that the same last week?
Very few positives, though Donnelly did well bottling up O'Se and dare I say it but Morgan was a dab hand when he went on a solo run.
What's the story with Colm cav?
What game were you watching? O'Shea ragdolled Donnelly on a few occasions and had Mattie Donnelly sitting at FB when he took his couple of minutes inside completely out of the game.
As for the lads saying Keegan done this and that. To be honest, you are deflecting. Mayo bossed Tyrone. Keegan done nothing wrong, as mentioned his clubmate was getting a bit of treatment, of course you want to see him run in and help his teammate.
Not a mention of Conor Meyler coming on and running straight over to O'Shea throwing what looked to be straight punches. Clown of a lad, always lets himself down getting involved in niggle. That was not the type of fight that Tyrone needed to show - and certainly not when they were already hammered out the gate.
Every high ball sent into O'Se was broken by Donnelly. Also I don't know what "ragdolled" means.
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 04, 2019, 08:02:08 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 03, 2019, 10:31:16 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Keegans antics yet again blot an otherwise superb mayo performance.
I'd have been disgusted if Keegan hadn't bailed in, Tyrone lad was acting the hard man against a young buck and didn't like it when it was given back to him. What's Keegan meant to do? Stand round and watch his club mate getting mauled?
Who was the Tyrone player
Sorry Tonto, I can't remember off the top of my head, I'll have a look later and get back to yo
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 04, 2019, 08:02:08 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 03, 2019, 10:31:16 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Keegans antics yet again blot an otherwise superb mayo performance.
I'd have been disgusted if Keegan hadn't bailed in, Tyrone lad was acting the hard man against a young buck and didn't like it when it was given back to him. What's Keegan meant to do? Stand round and watch his club mate getting mauled?
Who was the Tyrone player
Kyle Coney. He had to change jerseys after his got tore off him.
It wasn't really a day for clean high catches but I was impressed with O'Shea yesterday. I said after theRoscommon game that he shouldn't be at 11, too slow moving and too slow to move the ball, playing like Ciaran Kilkenny of two years ago, not a fan of that at all. Yesterday he was Much improved
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 04, 2019, 01:08:29 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 04, 2019, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 07:22:00 PM
Trone need to sort out the forwards and fast. One of our best out the field men (harte) stuck in the full forward line? Was that the same last week?
Very few positives, though Donnelly did well bottling up O'Se and dare I say it but Morgan was a dab hand when he went on a solo run.
What's the story with Colm cav?
What game were you watching? O'Shea ragdolled Donnelly on a few occasions and had Mattie Donnelly sitting at FB when he took his couple of minutes inside completely out of the game.
As for the lads saying Keegan done this and that. To be honest, you are deflecting. Mayo bossed Tyrone. Keegan done nothing wrong, as mentioned his clubmate was getting a bit of treatment, of course you want to see him run in and help his teammate.
Not a mention of Conor Meyler coming on and running straight over to O'Shea throwing what looked to be straight punches. Clown of a lad, always lets himself down getting involved in niggle. That was not the type of fight that Tyrone needed to show - and certainly not when they were already hammered out the gate.
Every high ball sent into O'Se was broken by Donnelly. Also I don't know what "ragdolled" means.
Maybe they were broken, the point is, Aiden O'Shea dictated where Tyrone's captain and arguably one of their better ball carriers / attackers played. Donnelly was completely ineffective. O'Shea physically bested him and this isn't the first time he's went missing in the heat of battle against a player 'just as big'. To say Donnelly was better than O'Shea yesterday is your opinion but I for one certainly wouldn't agree - I'd be interested to see what others thought of that battle.
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 04, 2019, 01:38:04 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 04, 2019, 01:08:29 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 04, 2019, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 03, 2019, 07:22:00 PM
Trone need to sort out the forwards and fast. One of our best out the field men (harte) stuck in the full forward line? Was that the same last week?
Very few positives, though Donnelly did well bottling up O'Se and dare I say it but Morgan was a dab hand when he went on a solo run.
What's the story with Colm cav?
What game were you watching? O'Shea ragdolled Donnelly on a few occasions and had Mattie Donnelly sitting at FB when he took his couple of minutes inside completely out of the game.
As for the lads saying Keegan done this and that. To be honest, you are deflecting. Mayo bossed Tyrone. Keegan done nothing wrong, as mentioned his clubmate was getting a bit of treatment, of course you want to see him run in and help his teammate.
Not a mention of Conor Meyler coming on and running straight over to O'Shea throwing what looked to be straight punches. Clown of a lad, always lets himself down getting involved in niggle. That was not the type of fight that Tyrone needed to show - and certainly not when they were already hammered out the gate.
Every high ball sent into O'Se was broken by Donnelly. Also I don't know what "ragdolled" means.
Maybe they were broken, the point is, Aiden O'Shea dictated where Tyrone's captain and arguably one of their better ball carriers / attackers played. Donnelly was completely ineffective. O'Shea physically bested him and this isn't the first time he's went missing in the heat of battle against a player 'just as big'. To say Donnelly was better than O'Shea yesterday is your opinion but I for one certainly wouldn't agree - I'd be interested to see what others thought of that battle.
I thought Mattie got the better of O'Shea. O'Shea didn't score and didn't win any balls played into him when he was in the full forward line, and Mattie still got forward to set up a few points.
In relation to O'Shea dictating where Donnelly played, my reading of this was that Mattie was sent out to do a man marking job on him. While I think Mattie did a good job, I don't think this is a wise use of his talents. He would be much more useful to us picking the ball up around the middle or half forward line and driving through for scores.
Also, there were numerous occasions where Mayo ran straight through the heart of the Tyrone defence yesterday. So while IMO Donnelly did a good job of nullifying O'Shea, our defence was still wide open and the centre half back (Mattie) has to take some responsibility for this.
so now mattie Donnelly is doing man marking jobs? that's almost as mad as asking tiarnan mc cann to man mark Ciaran kilkenny. oh wait....
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2019, 08:42:37 PM
That was depressing to watch.
I think you're hard on Harte. He was the only player taking the game to Mayo in their half. He was busted late on and made errors but only for him we could have been scoreless again for the majority of it.
I just can't see what the plan is that is in any way different from last year. Are Colm and Bradley really that big of a loss in that we now look like a poor division 2 team? Has the Dublin defeat affected this team that badly? Or is it just February?
Talk that there is a bit of a rift between the players.
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Quote from: moysider on February 03, 2019, 11:40:12 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 03, 2019, 10:49:14 PM
I know you have to try things out in the league but playing without yer sweeper was madness, over the three years we've struggled big time against defensive teams.
Yer passing in the final third was very poor, Higgins was made look exceptional by the amount of ball kicked directly to him
We are trying things as well. I'm reluctant to comment on another county, but here is an observation. Tyrone might not have been as defensive as we've come to expect but they had the guts of their AI team out there and quality players should be able to deal with a bit of tweaking and express themselves.
For me, today was mostly about Mayo and what we were doing. For me this was one of those performances that can turn out to
be a defining one. I admit I was very dubious about selection. Thought it was far too callow. How wrong I was!!
Okay, it is still early days. Mayo usually transition quickly and on today's evidence we are transitioning very nicely.
Was it that callow? 11 of that starting team today has played in AI semi final or finals. Young/new players going into an experienced team like that is a dream environment to impress and Tracey,McDonagh certainly excelled today.
On Tyrone as i said already in this thread it took them until round 5 v Donegal last year before they showed signs of the side that would go on to the reach the AI final and maybe the same could happen for them again this year.
Problem with that is, that if Tyrone lose next weekend V Roscommon, then they could be in relegation trouble big time, as it is safe to assume they will not beat Dublin.
Quote from: Under Lights on February 04, 2019, 03:54:46 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2019, 08:42:37 PM
That was depressing to watch.
I think you're hard on Harte. He was the only player taking the game to Mayo in their half. He was busted late on and made errors but only for him we could have been scoreless again for the majority of it.
I just can't see what the plan is that is in any way different from last year. Are Colm and Bradley really that big of a loss in that we now look like a poor division 2 team? Has the Dublin defeat affected this team that badly? Or is it just February?
Talk that there is a bit of a rift between the players.
Go on ...
Bit of argy bargy on recent vacation.Just a bit of MMA antics.
Quote from: skeog on February 04, 2019, 07:02:15 PM
Bit of argy bargy on recent vacation.Just a bit of MMA antics.
A right bit of Argy bargy alright good few haven't kissed and made up yet either.
Quote from: iorras on February 04, 2019, 11:35:38 AM
To the tyrone boys, I wouldnt get too worried yet to be honest. It takes a good bit of time for a team to get over an all ireland final loss as we well know. They have to be given time to rest and get back into it, it was clear our boys have alot more work done. While we didnt want it at the time our early summer exit may stand to us in the long run.
Trick for Tyrone is to make sure you beat the likes or Roscommon, Monaghan and Cavan. As good as we were today in parts, wouldnt surprise me if we go to sleep next week against Cavan and calve out 2 points to them.
I wonder if the fact that they lost to Dublin twice in the championship (throw in the loss in the league and it's 3 losses in a year to the Dubs) made it have more of an impact than just losing the final. The nature of the loss in the final probably didn't help either.
Optimism in Mayo will be on the rise since Sunday.
Got to give them credit for the way they play football, their always great to watch.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:28:49 AM
Optimism in Mayo will be on the rise since Sunday.
Got to give them credit for the way they play football, their always great to watch.
Great result! Promising debuts, but you'd have to wonder at where Tyrone are at, at the minute?
Dublin are so far ahead, there is a lot of ground to make up! Nobody losing the run of themselves.
Serious Mayo support. Did they outnumber us?
attendance only 6500. corresponding fixture 2 years ago had 8500. tyrone support getting smaller and smaller.
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 05, 2019, 11:24:43 PM
attendance only 6500. corresponding fixture 2 years ago had 8500. tyrone support getting smaller and smaller.
It's the loss of hope. The common Tyrone football fan knows the Gap between themselves and Dublin. The Mayo fan has forgotten about last year and still harks back to Mayo losing by 1 point in 2017! They think their mainstay are the same, and forget they will be 2 years older this year. Years of being ''Close'' and bouncing back the next year, gives renewed false hope.
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 05, 2019, 11:24:43 PM
attendance only 6500. corresponding fixture 2 years ago had 8500. tyrone support getting smaller and smaller.
The corresponding fixture two years ago was a sun drenched day in late March. It was championship weather.
Sunday past was as bad as it gets conditions wise.
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 06, 2019, 07:55:35 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 05, 2019, 11:24:43 PM
attendance only 6500. corresponding fixture 2 years ago had 8500. tyrone support getting smaller and smaller.
The corresponding fixture two years ago was a sun drenched day in late March. It was championship weather.
Sunday past was as bad as it gets conditions wise.
yes the game 2 years ago was played on a sunny day at end of March, so you're not going to get the same attendance.
what is the capacity of the stand in healy park?
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 05, 2019, 11:32:16 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 05, 2019, 11:24:43 PM
attendance only 6500. corresponding fixture 2 years ago had 8500. tyrone support getting smaller and smaller.
It's the loss of hope. The common Tyrone football fan knows the Gap between themselves and Dublin. The Mayo fan has forgotten about last year and still harks back to Mayo losing by 1 point in 2017! They think their mainstay are the same, and forget they will be 2 years older this year. Years of being ''Close'' and bouncing back the next year, gives renewed false hope.
Copy paste job again Bunker? Cheer up ta feck. :)
Quote from: spuds on February 06, 2019, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 05, 2019, 11:32:16 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 05, 2019, 11:24:43 PM
attendance only 6500. corresponding fixture 2 years ago had 8500. tyrone support getting smaller and smaller.
It's the loss of hope. The common Tyrone football fan knows the Gap between themselves and Dublin. The Mayo fan has forgotten about last year and still harks back to Mayo losing by 1 point in 2017! They think their mainstay are the same, and forget they will be 2 years older this year. Years of being ''Close'' and bouncing back the next year, gives renewed false hope.
Copy paste job again Bunker? Cheer up ta feck. :)
Copy/Paste from where?
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 06, 2019, 07:55:35 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 05, 2019, 11:24:43 PM
attendance only 6500. corresponding fixture 2 years ago had 8500. tyrone support getting smaller and smaller.
The corresponding fixture two years ago was a sun drenched day in late March. It was championship weather.
Sunday past was as bad as it gets conditions wise.
hard to believe the Mayo Roscommon game which filled a much larger stand and have a good crowd standing the far side only have 10K if thats WHAT 6500 looks like .
I wonder will mayo professional fames be out in force against cavan after last weeks display
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 06, 2019, 07:55:35 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 05, 2019, 11:24:43 PM
attendance only 6500. corresponding fixture 2 years ago had 8500. tyrone support getting smaller and smaller.
The corresponding fixture two years ago was a sun drenched day in late March. It was championship weather.
Sunday past was as bad as it gets conditions wise.
can't always blame the weather. Kerry had near 13000 at first game in worse conditions. Mayo had 11000 in a storm first Saturday night.
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 05, 2019, 01:19:53 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:28:49 AM
Optimism in Mayo will be on the rise since Sunday.
Got to give them credit for the way they play football, their always great to watch.
Great result! Promising debuts, but you'd have to wonder at where Tyrone are at, at the minute?
Dublin are so far ahead, there is a lot of ground to make up! Nobody losing the run of themselves.
In fairness its not been Mayo people getting carried away its the media, the new off the ball football show been the latest example.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 06, 2019, 02:14:13 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 05, 2019, 01:19:53 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:28:49 AM
Optimism in Mayo will be on the rise since Sunday.
Got to give them credit for the way they play football, their always great to watch.
Great result! Promising debuts, but you'd have to wonder at where Tyrone are at, at the minute?
Dublin are so far ahead, there is a lot of ground to make up! Nobody losing the run of themselves.
In fairness its not been Mayo people getting carried away its the media, the new off the ball football show been the latest example.
Yeah, but who cares if supporters lose the run of themselves anyway? It's all part of following a team. Tyrone beat Mayo easily last year and they've more than turned the tables this time round and introduced a few new players along the way so fair play to them. Tyrone were disappointing on Sunday and looked fairly clueless going forward, i'll hold fire on writing our chances of improving just yet though.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 06, 2019, 02:14:13 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 05, 2019, 01:19:53 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:28:49 AM
Optimism in Mayo will be on the rise since Sunday.
Got to give them credit for the way they play football, their always great to watch.
Great result! Promising debuts, but you'd have to wonder at where Tyrone are at, at the minute?
Dublin are so far ahead, there is a lot of ground to make up! Nobody losing the run of themselves.
In fairness its not been Mayo people getting carried away its the media, the new off the ball football show been the latest example.
Wooly Parkinson the same.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 06, 2019, 02:34:34 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 06, 2019, 02:14:13 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 05, 2019, 01:19:53 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:28:49 AM
Optimism in Mayo will be on the rise since Sunday.
Got to give them credit for the way they play football, their always great to watch.
Great result! Promising debuts, but you'd have to wonder at where Tyrone are at, at the minute?
Dublin are so far ahead, there is a lot of ground to make up! Nobody losing the run of themselves.
In fairness its not been Mayo people getting carried away its the media, the new off the ball football show been the latest example.
Wooly Parkinson the same.
Wooly and the lads talked a lot about the positives for Mayo but I don't think they were getting too carried away. I do think there is reason for optimism in Mayo though. Horan is a better coach that Rochford and some of their young lads look like they might be able to contribute later in the year. Mayo have struggled badly in the league the last few seasons meaning they've had to grind out results in the later rounds to survive so with two wins on the board they should be happy and able to experiment more in the later parts of the league. Plus Galway look a shade off where they were last year.
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2019, 12:05:01 PM
Quote from: spuds on February 06, 2019, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 05, 2019, 11:32:16 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 05, 2019, 11:24:43 PM
attendance only 6500. corresponding fixture 2 years ago had 8500. tyrone support getting smaller and smaller.
It's the loss of hope. The common Tyrone football fan knows the Gap between themselves and Dublin. The Mayo fan has forgotten about last year and still harks back to Mayo losing by 1 point in 2017! They think their mainstay are the same, and forget they will be 2 years older this year. Years of being ''Close'' and bouncing back the next year, gives renewed false hope.
Copy paste job again Bunker? Cheer up ta feck. :)
Copy/Paste from where?
Same negative dour comments in every thread you post on. Meet the challenge and power on best we can.
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 06, 2019, 01:27:00 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 06, 2019, 07:55:35 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 05, 2019, 11:24:43 PM
attendance only 6500. corresponding fixture 2 years ago had 8500. tyrone support getting smaller and smaller.
The corresponding fixture two years ago was a sun drenched day in late March. It was championship weather.
Sunday past was as bad as it gets conditions wise.
can't always blame the weather. Kerry had near 13000 at first game in worse conditions. Mayo had 11000 in a storm first Saturday night.
on attendances, as has been mentioned before mayo understate their home gates for every league match and have been at it for at least the last 5-7 years. they are fairly consistent with the understatement, usually in the region of 2-3k,more on occasion.
i assume they are doing this by pocketing the money from tickets bought with cash on the night and using certain capable stewards on certain turnstiles.
Quote from: guy crouchback on February 07, 2019, 10:27:01 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 06, 2019, 01:27:00 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 06, 2019, 07:55:35 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 05, 2019, 11:24:43 PM
attendance only 6500. corresponding fixture 2 years ago had 8500. tyrone support getting smaller and smaller.
The corresponding fixture two years ago was a sun drenched day in late March. It was championship weather.
Sunday past was as bad as it gets conditions wise.
can't always blame the weather. Kerry had near 13000 at first game in worse conditions. Mayo had 11000 in a storm first Saturday night.
on attendances, as has been mentioned before mayo understate their home gates for every league match and have been at it for at least the last 5-7 years. they are fairly consistent with the understatement, usually in the region of 2-3k,more on occasion.
i assume they are doing this by pocketing the money from tickets bought with cash on the night and using certain capable stewards on certain turnstiles.
Under 16s got in free for Rosscommon home game, are these included in attendance figure as they still go in through turnstile?
For as long as I remember attendance figures always understated.
yes under 16's are included in the attendances, everyone who goes through the attendances is supposed to be counted.
from a health and safety point of view you can imagine how important that is.
i suppose this only possible with a half empty ground, it would be hard to get away with in a big championship match.
anyone remember the mayo v dublin match a few years ago where it was oblivious to anyone on the hill that there was a bigger crowd than normal in there, everyone was waiting for the attendance to be announced in the second half but it never was.
all the papers just reported it as a full house.