China Coronavirus

[armaghniac]

They have suspended the visa waiver scheme for people with British visas, which won't stop the yanks coming but does give them a basis stopping some other classes of visitor. That's a start.

[Jeepers Creepers]

Disneyworld in Florida set to reopen. Glad Florida are taking this seriously!

[johnnycool]

I'm going to assume he was already in the system MR2 so it would have been extraordinarily inept not to continue with his care.

All of Derek's peers are lads who should have had a prostrate exam, but these were cancelled. Or have been having migraines or tiredness, and ordinarily would have had blood tests.

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My basic point here is this.

This thread has seen a few people advise that (paraphrasing) "we don't know the long term effects of Covid yet". With the intimation that we need to be extremely cautious not to declare those who have had Covid as survivors.

The thing is, anyone with this viewpoint is speculating.

One thing we do know for sure though is that cancer will almost certainly have extraordinary consequences if not detected early. You may survive, but only after a long period of hell.

That is not speculation.

We need to prioritise things we know about over things we don't.

this is entirely true and what seems to have happened is that absolutely everything was cleared from the decks of the NHS to allow it not to be overrun.

That really shouldn't have happened but was driven by the fact that the NHS, particularly here was/is on it's knees at the best of times. In hindsight I'd say a lot of health professionals will admit that it was a mistake if they're being honest.

[Cunny Funt]

Disneyworld in Florida set to reopen. Glad Florida are taking this seriously!

They never took it seriously to begin with. NBA to be played in Disney isn't it?

[armaghniac]

Disneyworld in Florida set to reopen. Glad Florida are taking this seriously!

No problem, only 11,433 new cases a day there.

Meanwhile the Chinese government is warning its citizens about going to Kazakhstan where a new bug is worse than Covid. 
There is also further research about the TB vaccine helping with Covid, the death rate from Covid-19 was 2.9 times higher among people from the former West Germany than those in the former East Germany, and the mortality rate was four times higher in Italy than in Finland.

[seafoid]

https://www.ft.com/content/95d57c49-4a21-40b8-aa37-42b111b50bb5

The chief executive of Heathrow airport has warned the aviation industry needs to prepare itself for periodic lockdowns around the world as countries are hit by new coronavirus outbreaks. John Holland-Kaye said the airport was considering a range of possible responses as new infections swept across cities previously thought to have brought the pandemic under control, such as Melbourne, Australia, which this week was put into lockdown for six weeks. "If we have periodic outbreaks around the world, we've got to have a different fall back to complete quarantine. There's got to be an alternative that will just become part of the way we live our lives and we need to start working on that now," Mr Holland-Kaye told the FT.

[Milltown Row2]

Smurphy and trailer will have a fit!

[Rossfan]

Have they not been on permanent fits?

[Smurfy123]

Yep lock down the healthy.
Many more cases everywhere with death rate dropping
What does that tell us?
How's furlong going?

[Milltown Row2]

Yep lock down the healthy.
Many more cases everywhere with death rate dropping
What does that tell us?
How's furlong going?

Any young ones getting it?

[dublin7]

A flight landed in Dublin airport this morning from Dallas.

Is there anyone else uneasy that Americans are free to visit Ireland at the minute?
I understand it will be driven by "our special relationship" with the US, but it does seem like this could lead to the re-introduction of greater instances of the virus.

If we don't prevent US flights landing here, then what is the point of blocking flights from any country at the minute?

Is there that many tourists arriving though? I know the likes of MacKenna will tweet details of flight arrivals, but this doesn't show how many are on the flight.

I know someone who works in duty free in the airport and he says its dead there.

For me the fact social distancing is being ignored by more and more people, refusal to wear masks on public transport along with reports today of gardai investigating Covid parties in Kerry are more worrying than American tourists.

[Milltown Row2]

Neighbours son arrived home from Italy yesterday into Dublin airport, there was 18 on the flight, got to  arrival part in Dublin Was told to fill in Quarantine form, read through it and at the bottom it says if you're heading to Northern Ireland no need to fill in form!

The son was living in northern Italy and was in lockdown from the start!

[armaghniac]

American tourists may not be the biggest problem, but like Dominic Cummings or SF in Belfast people obviously behaving riskily in a public way does nothing to encourage others to do their best.

[Milltown Row2]

American tourists may not be the biggest problem, but like Dominic Cummings or SF in Belfast people obviously behaving riskily in a public way does nothing to encourage others to do their best.

Crossgar and Kerry on that list too

[Captain Obvious]

The same should happen in Ireland?

https://www.icelandair.com/en-ie/blog/iceland-eases-travel-restrictions/