Anyone listening to that chav 'Crystal' from Portadown at the moment? She says her five year old has moved out because he doesn't want to live in her two bedroom house. "When other people with one child have a f**king three bedroom house". Greedy selfish whore should have the children taken off her. >:(
I'm sitting here pissin myself laughing at her. :D
"There's a different law for one round here and a different law for another round her and this is Portadown I'm talking about".
What's the sister shouting in the background?
Aye I'm sitting here trying not to laugh so the boss won't see me but WTF is she rambling about. I could have seen me telling my ma when i was 5 what to do, the "made in Taiwan" would have been imprinted on my leg from her slipper...lol
Social Services should def pay that girl a visit. She sounded like she had a Belfast accent though
theres just some people who should not be allowed on radio.
did you hear the switch over to anderson?he was in stiches laughing
Quote from: isourboydownyet on January 14, 2011, 10:39:13 AM
theres just some people who should not be allowed on radio.
did you hear the switch over to anderson?he was in stiches laughing
Aye Anderson goes "does the name Jeremy Kyle mean anything to you (nolan)!" :D
Nolan goes, "think I'll play that one tonight on Radio 5 live"
aye anderson is sum lad :D
It sounded to me that this girl was looking for a larger house and this was her way of putting pressure on the Housing Executive. It has become the ultimate threat up here 'I'll get Nolan for you'. I turned it off to be honest as the sound of Nolan exploiting vulnerable individuals sickens me.
IMHO Nolan deals with some very important and relevant issues put he just tries to make petty points, inflates his own ego thus ruining any chance of proper debate. I think he does much more harm than good!
Nolans a twat - not the man to be dealing with any issues at all becuase hes clueless. Anderson is the best thing on the radio.
i'd love to be able to listen to the radio at work, but there's some relatively new law where you have to pay for some broadcasting licence for a radio at work where more than 1 person can hear it and it's a no no in our company. There'll be taxes on deep breaths soon for taking to big of a draw of 02 :P
Does Nolan have a podcast? Wouldn't mind listening to it. Presumably it's the biggest podcast in the country.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00x9x17/The_Nolan_Show_14_01_2011 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00x9x17/The_Nolan_Show_14_01_2011)
You gotta pity the wee lad, he can't get his man utd wallpaper up on his wall with him sharing with his 4 year old sister WTF.
The ma needs sent out to do a days work.
Quote from: johnneycool on January 14, 2011, 01:50:41 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00x9x17/The_Nolan_Show_14_01_2011 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00x9x17/The_Nolan_Show_14_01_2011)
You gotta pity the wee lad, he can't get his man utd wallpaper up on his wall with him sharing with his 4 year old sister WTF.
The ma needs sent out to do a days work.
That has got to be a wind up. Starts @ 50 minutes.
Quote from: johnneycool on January 14, 2011, 01:50:41 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00x9x17/The_Nolan_Show_14_01_2011 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00x9x17/The_Nolan_Show_14_01_2011)
Looks like they've cut the last 10-15minutes out of that, bit where she curses and looses the rag.
What happened to those "rumours" about Nolan?
Ach sure the young lad is just independent.
Quote from: All of a Sludden on January 14, 2011, 02:12:06 PM
What happened to those "rumours" about Nolan?
Looks like it was just a load of gossip queens on gaaboard speculating :-\
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Quote from: All of a Sludden on January 14, 2011, 02:12:06 PM
What happened to those "rumours" about Nolan?
Looks like it was just a load of gossip queens on gaaboard speculating :-\
I didnt know the rumours were mentioned on here. I heard them elsewhere. I take it they were nonsense then.
Quote from: Mac Eoghain on January 14, 2011, 02:27:45 PM
Not too hard to track her down on Facebook - interesting message where she says that she lied to the papers about the kid moving out 'cos any mum would have done the same' or something to that effect.
Link? I bet shes a real stunner.
That's the most advanced 5 year old ever I heard off!
Does she not know most people would have shared a room with their brother/sister ???
Sounds like an April Fool!
That facebook page saddens me :-\
Crystal Bradley
Quotecant belive wot shit tis haz caused..... all i did waz tellin
lies 2 get a hse y do ppl nt understand yea i no che shudnt hve been in e paper bt e man wanted a photo of him
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 14, 2011, 07:45:27 PM
That facebook page saddens me :-\
Me too.
What sort of lives do these people live? Where exactly do they live? What language do they speak?
I was pretty sure that was a wind up when I first heard it. I cannot believe we allow people like that to breed, its not fair on the children.
Some very classy friends.
Going by the partner's status I'd say there's more than just the three in that house.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 14, 2011, 07:45:27 PM
That facebook page saddens me :-\
Crystal Bradley Quotecant belive wot shit tis haz caused..... all i did waz tellin
lies 2 get a hse y do ppl nt understand yea i no che shudnt hve been in e paper bt e man wanted a photo of him
I'm sad because I have no idea what this means!
You have to read it aloud with a portadown/chav accent - it all comes clear
I listen to the fatboy when traveling up north. He is a decent journalist but god his ego drives me mad. This biggest show in the country is a bit like me saying I have the most money in my house! He is obssesed with hos career, him on TV and him on 5 live. He is also very very pro British.
As for the aformentioned rumours? I assume you are talking about his sexuality? That's old news. He's not openly gay but doesn't deny it either. A mate of mine interviewed him years ago and he told him not to mention it.
Is nolan gay? i listen most days what make you think hes gay?
Quote from: lawnseed on January 15, 2011, 08:29:30 PM
Is nolan gay? i listen most days what make you think hes gay?
As I said, a mate interviewed him. I used to work in radio ad sales and worked through Citybeat (his old station) and it was well known then. Now that you know, it will be obvious when you listen to the way he responds when people slag him about needing a good woman etc. I just have no idea why he doesnt just come out officially, he probably sees it as a bad career move which is silly this day and age.
the whole show is very uk/belfast orientated. it really pissed me off last week when he spent 2 days talking about swine flu in the uk when we nordies are more likely to come into contact with our southern brothers and therefore the swine flu status of the 26 counties is what the show should have been hilighting.
that facebook page is unbelievable
Imagine children having to share a room! I'm sure there's plenty on here who had to share rooms with brothers, sisters or both!
Quote from: turkey+ham on January 15, 2011, 09:04:34 PM
that facebook page is unbelievable
Imagine children having to share a room! I'm sure there's plenty on here who had to share rooms with brothers, sisters or both!
These chav scroungers have a huge sense of entitlement and believe that because they want something then the taxpayer should duly oblige. Most normal people wanting a bigger house go out and work their bollix off until they can afford it. Would never occur to her or her like.
Just after listening to the podcast. Good Lord, Crystal was lost her grip on reality. She really needs to be sent out to do a days work.
Quote from: ziggysego on January 16, 2011, 02:21:15 AM
Just after listening to the podcast. Good Lord, Crystal was lost her grip on reality. She really needs to be sent out to do a days work.
I`m sure you`d find a job for her ziggy. ;)
Tune in now
why?
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Tune in now
That woman sounds like a south armagh woman...
She wants all the Brits dead or move them back to Britan and let the Irish live their lives in peace in IRELAND
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Quote from: gerry on January 27, 2011, 09:50:09 AM
Tune in now
That woman sounds like a south armagh woman...
"Now between you me and the wall we won't go into that" - haha
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Quote from: gerry on January 27, 2011, 09:50:09 AM
Tune in now
That woman sounds like a south armagh woman...
I'd say she was in the Athletic Grounds last night. That would have left anyone in a bad mood.
She gave her identity away at the end there.
Quote from: illdecide on January 27, 2011, 09:57:14 AM
She wants all the Brits dead or move them back to Britan and let the Irish live their lives in peace in IRELAND
Jesus ::)
what was the topic being discssed on the show anyway?
Quote from: ziggysego on January 27, 2011, 10:28:15 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 27, 2011, 09:57:14 AM
She wants all the Brits dead or move them back to Britan and let the Irish live their lives in peace in IRELAND
Jesus ::)
:D Ohh and the rest of you who want to live with Brits on this Island are traitors
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Quote from: illdecide on January 27, 2011, 09:57:14 AM
She wants all the Brits dead or move them back to Britan and let the Irish live their lives in peace in IRELAND
Jesus ::)
:D Ohh and the rest of you who want to live with Brits on this Island are traitors
I prefer the breed them out, than kill them out approach ;D
I think Stephen Nolan is a wonderful man who uses his undoubted talents to engage with the real issues we face on a daily basis from the bin collection to underage drinking to ethnic cleansing. I have met Stephen a few times now and have found him easy and always willing to bend over backwards so you can get your piece in. He is open to everyone and anyone.
Quote from: Olly on January 27, 2011, 11:25:49 AM
I think Stephen Nolan is a wonderful man who uses his undoubted talents to engage with the real issues we face on a daily basis from the bin collection to underage drinking to ethnic cleansing. I have met Stephen a few times now and have found him easy and always willing to bend over backwards so you can get your piece in. He is open to everyone and anyone.
Olly if you had read a thread about Mr nolan a few years back it would have told you that he was very fond off bending lads over backwards and introducing a new spine to their system
Read Ollys post again illdecide.
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Quote from: Olly on January 27, 2011, 11:25:49 AM
I think Stephen Nolan is a wonderful man who uses his undoubted talents to engage with the real issues we face on a daily basis from the bin collection to underage drinking to ethnic cleansing. I have met Stephen a few times now and have found him easy and always willing to bend over backwards so you can get your piece in. He is open to everyone and anyone.
Olly if you had read a thread about Mr nolan a few years back it would have told you that he was very fond off bending lads over backwards and introducing a new spine to their system
I think you missed his message illdecide
Yes indeed i def did jump in feet first there without reading the whole post... :D :D :D didn't think Olly had it in him TBH :D
Quote from: illdecide on January 27, 2011, 11:53:31 AM
Yes indeed i def did jump in feet first there without reading the whole post... :D :D :D didn't think Olly had it in him TBH :D
I'd say Olly has had it in him a good few times :-*
Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2019, 10:59:32 PM
Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
Nope but we definitely wouldn't eat as much red meat in the house.
Was going to go Vegan for a month, probably will at some point just to see..
But seen a report saying that the produce of vegan foods can hurt the environment as much as eating meat!
Watched it. Nolan shouting over everyone and the girl shouting was a complete melt.
My ex was a Vegan. Made life v difficult re meals, 2 sets of food etc. When you went away spent hours walking round towns to obscure spots where i could enjoy f all on the menu. She was glowing to be fair and the healthiest looking person about but it was defo too strict for me
Nope full blown burger lover here
"Why did the vegan cross the road"
"To tell everyone she was a vegan"
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2019, 09:19:47 AM
Nope full blown burger lover here
"Why did the vegan cross the road"
"To tell everyone she was a vegan"
Why is there this perception that all vegans are women?
I wonder what percentage are all the same as the female Vegan does seem to be the most vociferous type.
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Nope full blown burger lover here
"Why did the vegan cross the road"
"To tell everyone she was a vegan"
Why is there this perception that all vegans are women?
I wonder what percentage are all the same as the female Vegan does seem to be the most vociferous type.
Nearly 80% in the USA
Haven't a clue about home but I'm guessing it's close to that.
I don't really have a problem with it to be fair but I bet some vegans have a problem with us meat eaters.
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Nope full blown burger lover here
"Why did the vegan cross the road"
"To tell everyone she was a vegan"
Why is there this perception that all vegans are women?
I wonder what percentage are all the same as the female Vegan does seem to be the most vociferous type.
Nearly 80% in the USA
Haven't a clue about home but I'm guessing it's close to that.
I don't really have a problem with it to be fair but I bet some vegans have a problem with us meat eaters.
A fad. It's not only avoiding meat, it's avoiding cow's milk and honey etc.
A healthy diet is a balanced diet.
P.S Nolan is poison.
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Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2019, 09:19:47 AM
Nope full blown burger lover here
"Why did the vegan cross the road"
"To tell everyone she was a vegan"
Why is there this perception that all vegans are women lesbains ;)?
I wonder what percentage are all the same as the female Vegan does seem to be the most vociferous type.
Fixed that
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Quote from: johnnycool on February 07, 2019, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2019, 09:19:47 AM
Nope full blown burger lover here
"Why did the vegan cross the road"
"To tell everyone she was a vegan"
Why is there this perception that all vegans are women lesbains ;)?
I wonder what percentage are all the same as the female Vegan does seem to be the most vociferous type.
Fixed that
You may fix it again well.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2019, 10:59:32 PM
Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
Not vegan, but trying to wean myself off red meat. Off it now over a month, but my doctor said I need a bit now and again for iron purposes. So had a bit at the weekend. In such a short period of time, my stomach didn't know what to do with it and I had gut rot for a few days.
May stay off it now and look for iron supplements instead.
Big Stevie wanting an even bigger slice of the BBC Pie, but Gregory having none of it;
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/watchdog-probes-bbc-ni-after-dup-claims-over-awarding-of-contracts-37787099.html (https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/watchdog-probes-bbc-ni-after-dup-claims-over-awarding-of-contracts-37787099.html)
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Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
Not vegan, but trying to wean myself off red meat. Off it now over a month, but my doctor said I need a bit now and again for iron purposes. So had a bit at the weekend. In such a short period of time, my stomach didn't know what to do with it and I had gut rot for a few days.
May stay off it now and look for iron supplements instead.
A good prescription of Guinness would have been the best method of getting iron back into the body!
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Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
Not vegan, but trying to wean myself off red meat. Off it now over a month, but my doctor said I need a bit now and again for iron purposes. So had a bit at the weekend. In such a short period of time, my stomach didn't know what to do with it and I had gut rot for a few days.
May stay off it now and look for iron supplements instead.
A good prescription of Guinness would have been the best method of getting iron back into the body!
Best advice I've got yet. Time to get some Guinness in me.
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Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
Not vegan, but trying to wean myself off red meat. Off it now over a month, but my doctor said I need a bit now and again for iron purposes. So had a bit at the weekend. In such a short period of time, my stomach didn't know what to do with it and I had gut rot for a few days.
May stay off it now and look for iron supplements instead.
A good prescription of Guinness would have been the best method of getting iron back into the body!
Best advice I've got yet. Time to get some Guinness in me.
Cutting back on it is fine and even admirable but will you not miss the odd big juicy steak? I know I would!
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Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
Not vegan, but trying to wean myself off red meat. Off it now over a month, but my doctor said I need a bit now and again for iron purposes. So had a bit at the weekend. In such a short period of time, my stomach didn't know what to do with it and I had gut rot for a few days.
May stay off it now and look for iron supplements instead.
A good prescription of Guinness would have been the best method of getting iron back into the body!
Best advice I've got yet. Time to get some Guinness in me.
Cutting back on it is fine and even admirable but will you not miss the odd big juicy steak? I know I would!
I did for the first few weeks, not anymore.
Are there more 20+ vegans now than virgins. Just wandering
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2019, 10:59:32 PM
Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
Vegans.
Such a load of shite.
If we were meant to munch exclusively on grass, leaves and berries, then we wouldn't have incisors in our jaws.
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on February 07, 2019, 12:49:58 PM
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Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
Vegans.
Such a load of shite.
If we were meant to munch exclusively on grass, leaves and berries, then we wouldn't have incisors in our jaws.
Gorillas do not eat meat.
(https://i1.wp.com/freefromharm.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Gorilla-Herbivore-Canines1.jpg?w=650&ssl=1)
Woke up to the news about the photos of the queen being taken down in the NI Office.
Thought, I must listen to Nolan this morning. It has not disappointed. Rubber stamping the idiocracy of the NI unionists and Loyalists.
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Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
Vegans.
Such a load of shite.
If we were meant to munch exclusively on grass, leaves and berries, then we wouldn't have incisors in our jaws.
Gorillas do not eat meat.
Actually there is emerging evidence they do.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2019, 10:59:32 PM
Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
I am, went of meat for lent eighteen years ago and have been on a vegetarian diet ever since.
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Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
I am, went of meat for lent eighteen years ago and have been on a vegetarian diet ever since.
Vegan is no animal products whatsoever... no milk, yogurt
eggs, cheese, butter, mince pies, black pudding, jelly babies
Basically think of all the things that are worth eating after you exclude meats.... well exclude you can exclude those too
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Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
I am, went of meat for lent eighteen years ago and have been on a vegetarian diet ever since.
Vegan is no animal products whatsoever... no milk, yogurt
eggs, cheese, butter, mince pies, black pudding, jelly babies
Basically think of all the things that are worth eating after you exclude meats.... well exclude you can exclude those too
Decided to be vegan for a week, just to see how how it would be, lost weight , obviously, and didn't miss anything food wise. But it took a lot of effort to shop for the correct foods! We've been doing a dry September and I'll try it again for a couple weeks. A detox I suppose.
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Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
I am, went of meat for lent eighteen years ago and have been on a vegetarian diet ever since.
Vegan is no animal products whatsoever... no milk, yogurt
eggs, cheese, butter, mince pies, black pudding, jelly babies
Basically think of all the things that are worth eating after you exclude meats.... well exclude you can exclude those too
Decided to be vegan for a week, just to see how how it would be, lost weight , obviously, and didn't miss anything food wise. But it took a lot of effort to shop for the correct foods! We've been doing a dry September and I'll try it again for a couple weeks. A detox I suppose.
What clothes did you wear that week?
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Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
I am, went of meat for lent eighteen years ago and have been on a vegetarian diet ever since.
Vegan is no animal products whatsoever... no milk, yogurt
eggs, cheese, butter, mince pies, black pudding, jelly babies
Basically think of all the things that are worth eating after you exclude meats.... well exclude you can exclude those too
Decided to be vegan for a week, just to see how how it would be, lost weight , obviously, and didn't miss anything food wise. But it took a lot of effort to shop for the correct foods! We've been doing a dry September and I'll try it again for a couple weeks. A detox I suppose.
What clothes did you wear that week?
Its all getting a bit raunchy in here this morning
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Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
I am, went of meat for lent eighteen years ago and have been on a vegetarian diet ever since.
Vegan is no animal products whatsoever... no milk, yogurt
eggs, cheese, butter, mince pies, black pudding, jelly babies
Basically think of all the things that are worth eating after you exclude meats.... well exclude you can exclude those too
Decided to be vegan for a week, just to see how how it would be, lost weight , obviously, and didn't miss anything food wise. But it took a lot of effort to shop for the correct foods! We've been doing a dry September and I'll try it again for a couple weeks. A detox I suppose.
What clothes did you wear that week?
Its all getting a bit raunchy in here this morning
Well if he's in the leather gear that statement is somewhat moot. :)
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Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !
How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?
I am, went of meat for lent eighteen years ago and have been on a vegetarian diet ever since.
Vegan is no animal products whatsoever... no milk, yogurt
eggs, cheese, butter, mince pies, black pudding, jelly babies
Basically think of all the things that are worth eating after you exclude meats.... well exclude you can exclude those too
Decided to be vegan for a week, just to see how how it would be, lost weight , obviously, and didn't miss anything food wise. But it took a lot of effort to shop for the correct foods! We've been doing a dry September and I'll try it again for a couple weeks. A detox I suppose.
What clothes did you wear that week?
Cotton, put the leather trousers away for the week! 8)
Listened to Nolan against my better judgement this morning, big mistake. He managed to turn a show about the DUP's veto into an anti SF show.
Nolan's loving life now !! Another story on be shinners
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2020, 09:19:45 AM
Nolan's loving life now !! Another story on be shinners
thought you'd more sense
The shinners really aren't that intelligent are they? Must be all the close contact with bombs etc affecting their brains.
Fond of the whattsapp messages and emails alright, the famous Alliance one too, now apparently they dont like alliance any more either
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Nolan's loving life now !! Another story on be shinners
thought you'd more sense
Pity the Shinners didn't have more sense. Sending emails advertising an open wake FFS! Then they've the cheek to get on their high horse over golfgate?
The only thing in their favour is that the DUP are an even bigger basket case.
SF will still be voted in again at the next election
It's not SF who are the basket cases.
I'm no fan of the Shinners but the obvious question why do people watch or listen to Nolan?
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Nolan's loving life now !! Another story on be shinners
thought you'd more sense
Caught out, I was in the car yesterday and had Ulster radio on for the match, so dropping daughter off at school and the clampit was on ! He's rotten, regardless of what the shinners did
Quote from: BennyCake on November 23, 2020, 11:25:58 AM
SF will still be voted in again at the next election
It's not SF who are the basket cases.
Totally correct. Its the SDLP who still can't produce viable leadership and candidates to knock them off their perch.
Does it matter if its the Shinners or SDLP who speak for the nationalists? Doesn't it boil down to the unionist pleb resent nationalists because of a perception that nationalists are doing bettter than them, whereas in the past the unionist pleb could tolerate their own misery because the nationalist pleb was worse off.
Was there not a Nolan show on how some unionist politicians were annoyed about Uni students wearing GAA shirts on campus. Not only are they getting educated but they're swamping the place out and throwing it at our faces.
Quote from: Main Street on November 23, 2020, 03:25:45 PM
Does it matter if its the Shinners or SDLP who speak for the nationalists? Doesn't it boil down to the unionist pleb resent nationalists because of a perception that nationalists are doing bettter than them, whereas in the past the unionist pleb could tolerate their own misery because the nationalist pleb was worse off.
Was there not a Nolan show on how some unionist politicians were annoyed about Uni students wearing GAA shirts on campus. Not only are they getting educated but they're swamping the place out and throwing it at our faces.
The new one is about how the Holylands is 90%+ Catholic...
How did this happen, and can you imagine what the reaction would be if it was 90%+ Protestant...
Ben Lowry already has an article on it
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/opinion/columnists/ben-lowry-just-imagine-if-holylands-was-94-protestant-3043394
Quote from: Estimator on November 23, 2020, 06:51:00 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 23, 2020, 03:25:45 PM
Does it matter if its the Shinners or SDLP who speak for the nationalists? Doesn't it boil down to the unionist pleb resent nationalists because of a perception that nationalists are doing bettter than them, whereas in the past the unionist pleb could tolerate their own misery because the nationalist pleb was worse off.
Was there not a Nolan show on how some unionist politicians were annoyed about Uni students wearing GAA shirts on campus. Not only are they getting educated but they're swamping the place out and throwing it at our faces.
The new one is about how the Holylands is 90%+ Catholic...
How did this happen, and can you imagine what the reaction would be if it was 90%+ Protestant...
Ben Lowry already has an article on it
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/opinion/columnists/ben-lowry-just-imagine-if-holylands-was-94-protestant-3043394
Lowry needs to do a bit more legwork on this one.
Even if the stat on the Holylands is correct (and I don't know whether it is or not) what is the significance?
Is it to do with the numbers of catholic's/Protestants going to university?
Is it to do with the numbers choosing NI universities or elsewhere?
Is it the numbers travelling or living away from home?
Is it the numbers choosing the Holylands vs other areas in Belfast?
Lowry might have a story but he hasn't proven it yet
You expect students to be open minded he says...
I would expect a journalist like that to be open minded but that's not the case.
Steeky Nolan saying he's won a libel case off an anonymous twitter account, Pastor Jimberoo and taken him for a 5 figure sum.
I was following that whole tet-a-tet and TBH your man was only questioning the makeup of Nolans guests and why Allister and Bryson were on so much in relation to their voting base..
Unless he's said something else I think the hard facts were with him, so not sure on what grounds Nolan won out!!
What did come out of it is that the Nolan show and his breakfast radio show are deemed entertainment and don't need to follow any rules on balance of guests and the likes..
Time the SDLP stopped going on his show
Quote from: johnnycool on July 02, 2021, 09:28:23 AM
Steeky Nolan saying he's won a libel case off an anonymous twitter account, Pastor Jimberoo and taken him for a 5 figure sum.
I was following that whole tet-a-tet and TBH your man was only questioning the makeup of Nolans guests and why Allister and Bryson were on so much in relation to their voting base..
Unless he's said something else I think the hard facts were with him, so not sure on what grounds Nolan won out!!
What did come out of it is that the Nolan show and his breakfast radio show are deemed entertainment and don't need to follow any rules on balance of guests and the likes..
Time the SDLP stopped going on his show
Six figures, well whoever it was I assume would be "known" as he paid dearly to protect his anonymity. He had some time in his hands, 200 odd tweets a day he was churning out.
Not everyone has six figures hangin around to pay out either.....never thought it could be someone well known
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 02, 2021, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 02, 2021, 09:28:23 AM
Steeky Nolan saying he's won a libel case off an anonymous twitter account, Pastor Jimberoo and taken him for a 5 figure sum.
I was following that whole tet-a-tet and TBH your man was only questioning the makeup of Nolans guests and why Allister and Bryson were on so much in relation to their voting base..
Unless he's said something else I think the hard facts were with him, so not sure on what grounds Nolan won out!!
What did come out of it is that the Nolan show and his breakfast radio show are deemed entertainment and don't need to follow any rules on balance of guests and the likes..
Time the SDLP stopped going on his show
Six figures, well whoever it was I assume would be "known" as he paid dearly to protect his anonymity. He had some time in his hands, 200 odd tweets a day he was churning out.
I stand corrected, what's a zero between friends.
Yes, wondering who that might be..
He portrayed himself as someone brought up in a unionist community but was pro a UI...
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 02, 2021, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 02, 2021, 09:28:23 AM
Steeky Nolan saying he's won a libel case off an anonymous twitter account, Pastor Jimberoo and taken him for a 5 figure sum.
I was following that whole tet-a-tet and TBH your man was only questioning the makeup of Nolans guests and why Allister and Bryson were on so much in relation to their voting base..
Unless he's said something else I think the hard facts were with him, so not sure on what grounds Nolan won out!!
What did come out of it is that the Nolan show and his breakfast radio show are deemed entertainment and don't need to follow any rules on balance of guests and the likes..
Time the SDLP stopped going on his show
Six figures, well whoever it was I assume would be "known" as he paid dearly to protect his anonymity. He had some time in his hands, 200 odd tweets a day he was churning out.
Must have worked in the public sector.
Good news for fast food outlets round ormeau avenue.
There has actually been a second settlement reached for a 5 figure sum!
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/bbcs-stephen-nolan-receives-further-five-figure-sum-in-damages-after-tracking-second-twitter-troll-40605559.html (https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/bbcs-stephen-nolan-receives-further-five-figure-sum-in-damages-after-tracking-second-twitter-troll-40605559.html)
Quote from: smort on July 02, 2021, 10:42:33 AM
There has actually been a second settlement reached for a 5 figure sum!
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/bbcs-stephen-nolan-receives-further-five-figure-sum-in-damages-after-tracking-second-twitter-troll-40605559.html (https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/bbcs-stephen-nolan-receives-further-five-figure-sum-in-damages-after-tracking-second-twitter-troll-40605559.html)
Surely they should be named and shamed?
Sure would be a deterrence to others if they knew their identity could be revealed
NI seems to be a place apart as well when it comes to Libel;;
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/jeffrey-donaldson-sued-us-heres-why-were-going-public/ (https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/jeffrey-donaldson-sued-us-heres-why-were-going-public/)
Wonder why the DUP don't want to align to England and Wales when it suits....
People should have more sense with social media and this shows it again. Nolan is horrible so it's annoying to see him get a payout after all the hate he peddles.
How is it done to track down the identity of an anon Twitter account? court order or some other way?
Bound to be a few nervous people about the day!
Quote from: Main Street on July 02, 2021, 12:50:48 PM
How is it done to track down the identity of an anon Twitter account? court order or some other way?
Think the court can get twitter to give up an IP address. You're never truly anonymous.
If you use VPNs well enough you'll not be traceable but presumably they got one and then there was an ISP associated with it who had to give the data.
I wonder who this eejit is. Must be somebody to be protecting his identity.
Be some shock for whoever it was. Him tweeting away and then coming back from Tesco's and a dirty lawyers letter waiting for him.
And a bill of 100k plus for bitta online slabberin
I was gona call him a fat no eared basturt but i dont think ill bother now
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 02, 2021, 01:32:51 PM
If you use VPNs well enough you'll not be traceable but presumably they got one and then there was an ISP associated with it who had to give the data.
I wonder who this eejit is. Must be somebody to be protecting his identity.
Must be a teacher to be tweeting 200 times a day
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 02, 2021, 01:57:02 PM
And a bill of 100k plus for bitta online slabberin
I was gona call him a fat no eared basturt but i dont think ill bother now
Surely they can only take it off you if ya have it... ;)
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2021, 02:21:48 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 02, 2021, 01:57:02 PM
And a bill of 100k plus for bitta online slabberin
I was gona call him a fat no eared basturt but i dont think ill bother now
Surely they can only take it off you if ya have it... ;)
I aint givin away 10% of my savings for no no eared basturt 😂
What's the craic with libelling outside of the UK? What if pastor Jim was resident in another jursidiction? How does the law tackle that... You could have someone laying up in Donegal slabbering away... what does Nolan do then?
As far as I can tell, all that Pastor Jimboroo did was to organise a petition to get Nolan off the air, because Nolan's show is clearly one sided (no hounding of police following the Noah Donahue debacle, but still not giving up on trying to embarrass Sinn Fein around the Bobby Storey funeral).
29,000 people signed the petition.
Quote from: Orior on July 02, 2021, 02:46:37 PM
As far as I can tell, all that Pastor Jimboroo did was to organise a petition to get Nolan off the air, because Nolan's show is clearly one sided (no hounding of police following the Noah Donahue debacle, but still not giving up on trying to embarrass Sinn Fein around the Bobby Storey funeral).
29,000 people signed the petition.
So by signing the petition, does that mean Nolan can go after all 29,000 as well ... asking for a friend ;D
I can't fully tell what he did either tbh. It appears to be all about protecting his identity which makes you wonder lol. I imagine it will come out in the end anyway. (and I also imagine I won't have a baldy who he is either).
Anyone checked in on O'Neill lately?
Seen a few of that accounts tweets, thought him a good laugh tbf. Never saw anything to justify such a payout .
I assume it was a bit more than just "I don't like your show" as he/she was obviously concerned about reputational damage & and I assume the volume of stuff he was tweeting out as well, it was seemingly round the clock, 139k tweets in 800 days
jsus thats near enough 200pd for 800 days. Whodafuq has time to be at that. Harrassment/stalking youd imagine as well as what was being said in the tweets themselves
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 02, 2021, 04:03:39 PM
jsus thats near enough 200pd for 800 days. Whodafuq has time to be at that. Harrassment/stalking youd imagine as well as what was being said in the tweets themselves
Don't think they were all for Nolan but it's heavy going regardless
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 02, 2021, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 02, 2021, 04:03:39 PM
jsus thats near enough 200pd for 800 days. Whodafuq has time to be at that. Harrassment/stalking youd imagine as well as what was being said in the tweets themselves
Don't think they were all for Nolan but it's heavy going regardless
Must have been someone with a lot of time on their hands ... maybe a politician so.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on July 02, 2021, 06:08:25 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 02, 2021, 09:28:23 AM
Steeky Nolan saying he's won a libel case off an anonymous twitter account, Pastor Jimberoo and taken him for a 5 figure sum.
I was following that whole tet-a-tet and TBH your man was only questioning the makeup of Nolans guests and why Allister and Bryson were on so much in relation to their voting base..
Unless he's said something else I think the hard facts were with him, so not sure on what grounds Nolan won out!!
What did come out of it is that the Nolan show and his breakfast radio show are deemed entertainment and don't need to follow any rules on balance of guests and the likes..
Time the SDLP stopped going on his show
There wasn't a libel case. What happened is that the matter was settled before it went to the courts, and whoever was behind the "Pastor Jimberoo" twitter handle has agreed to compensate a not insignificant amount of money.
From what I seen of the whole back 'n forth between them I was struggling to think of anything that was outright libellous, though NI libel law is still very much a mirror of the old English libel law where an awful lot of weight was placed on the person making the claim that it isn't libellous and that the person making the libel or slander claim doesn't have to show "damage". Maybe there was something else that I didn't see? Anyhoo, it comes across as an example within legal speak of this being a "Chilling Effect", or what those here resident in the Americas would call a "SLAPP" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect - basically using the threat of legal action to silence opponents.
This was much more than a SLAPP, Nolan's lawyer negotiated a quick killing and a large sum of money.
It is a mystery as to what was deemed libelous.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on July 02, 2021, 06:08:25 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 02, 2021, 09:28:23 AM
Steeky Nolan saying he's won a libel case off an anonymous twitter account, Pastor Jimberoo and taken him for a 5 figure sum.
I was following that whole tet-a-tet and TBH your man was only questioning the makeup of Nolans guests and why Allister and Bryson were on so much in relation to their voting base..
Unless he's said something else I think the hard facts were with him, so not sure on what grounds Nolan won out!!
What did come out of it is that the Nolan show and his breakfast radio show are deemed entertainment and don't need to follow any rules on balance of guests and the likes..
Time the SDLP stopped going on his show
There wasn't a libel case. What happened is that the matter was settled before it went to the courts, and whoever was behind the "Pastor Jimberoo" twitter handle has agreed to compensate a not insignificant amount of money.
From what I seen of the whole back 'n forth between them I was struggling to think of anything that was outright libellous, though NI libel law is still very much a mirror of the old English libel law where an awful lot of weight was placed on the person making the claim that it isn't libellous and that the person making the libel or slander claim doesn't have to show "damage". Maybe there was something else that I didn't see? Anyhoo, it comes across as an example within legal speak of this being a "Chilling Effect", or what those here resident in the Americas would call a "SLAPP" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect - basically using the threat of legal action to silence opponents.
The threshold for libel in Norn Iron much lower than GB it seems
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 02, 2021, 01:57:02 PM
And a bill of 100k plus for bitta online slabberin
I was gona call him a fat no eared basturt but i dont think ill bother now
It can't be libel if it's true.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 02, 2021, 04:03:39 PM
jsus thats near enough 200pd for 800 days. Whodafuq has time to be at that. Harrassment/stalking youd imagine as well as what was being said in the tweets themselves
Maybe it was Donald Trump. He had plenty of time for tweeting when he was president, probably because he watched so much TV.
imagine being wealthy and spending your time obsessing over nolan
Quote from: Eire90 on July 03, 2021, 01:23:17 AM
imagine being wealthy and spending your time obsessing over nolan
What's wealth got to do with it?
Even if you hadn't a pot to piss in, obsessing over Nolan would still be strange.
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 02, 2021, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 02, 2021, 04:03:39 PM
jsus thats near enough 200pd for 800 days. Whodafuq has time to be at that. Harrassment/stalking youd imagine as well as what was being said in the tweets themselves
Don't think they were all for Nolan but it's heavy going regardless
Might teach them a lesson to go out and get a life.
There's another guy McKane has an unreal obsession with him and a few other Journos. Someone should have a quiet word with him and tell him to let it go.
Quote from: trailer on July 03, 2021, 02:25:58 PM
There's another guy McKane has an unreal obsession with him and a few other Journos. Someone should have a quiet word with him and tell him to let it go.
McKane only recently took up the baton. I believe his background was marketing and he is retired. To be fair, he has pointed out a number of home truths.
Quote from: trailer on July 03, 2021, 02:25:58 PM
There's another guy McKane has an unreal obsession with him and a few other Journos. Someone should have a quiet word with him and tell him to let it go.
The original clip is worth a listen to. Does Nolan still holiday in West - seems to love Galway. Must be the Supermacs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/northernireland/comments/ml9leu/nolan_cuts_off_tim_for_questioning_the_amount_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
If you dislike nolan so much ignore and stop listening to him. You get these people moaning about nolan but still listen to his show every day i find his show boring anyway i stopped listing to him same with talkback which is just another nolan show same people same topics all the time.
Quote from: Silver hill on July 03, 2021, 09:30:14 AM
Quote from: Eire90 on July 03, 2021, 01:23:17 AM
imagine being wealthy and spending your time obsessing over nolan
What's wealth got to do with it?
Even if you hadn't a pot to piss in, obsessing over Nolan would still be strange.
exactly but it shows money does not make you smart or free from being obsessive
Quote from: Eire90 on July 03, 2021, 04:12:23 PM
If you dislike nolan so much ignore and stop listening to him. You get these people moaning about nolan but still listen to his show every day i find his show boring anyway i stopped listing to him same with talkback which is just another nolan show same people same topics all the time.
100. He is a radio version of Jeremy Kyle. I have zero interest in him or the inane ramblings of the people who ring into him so I never listen.
The only way you stop the Nolan juggernaut is by not listening to him. His ratings make him untouchable and this weeks events will have strengthened it. For what it's worth it seems he had a strong case against the Pastor. Loads of defamatory comments on the petition he set up which he didn't monitor.
As for Tim McKane he has tried to engage Nolan on the make up of his show, particularly in terms of the over exposure to the likes of Jim Allister. He is a bit obsessive and that dilutes his point I think. It's no different to the heckler and the comedian. The man with the microphone always has the last word....that's Nolan.
Pride comes before a fall. I have no doubt that karma will catch up with the fat Shankill slabber one of these fine days.
I wouldn't listen to him at all. The problem is not as simple as turning it off. He stirs up hate for a living and it does nothing for this place. You hear some nonsense about this place almost being ready to go to war when it's a very small minority who are annoyed by this border stuff. He provides a voice for those morons and tbh I imagine the likes of him is the reason that lcc have a voice.
its also the bekind brigade that seem to me making comments about nolans weight
Quote from: Eire90 on July 03, 2021, 07:41:45 PM
its also the bekind brigade that seem to me making comments about nolans weight
It's not glandular, he's just a complete and utter glutton. Your point?
Play the ball not the man.
There is plenty to attack with how he conducts himself - how he looks is irrelevant and petty.
What about the small ears tho. Can we at least have a go at them?!
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 03, 2021, 09:15:36 PM
What about the small ears tho. Can we at least have a go at them?!
;D
He's an idiot no matter what he looks like lol.
I see wee Seamie Bwyson is now gonna try to get a few quid off the Pastor as well
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 04, 2021, 01:51:23 PM
I see wee Seamie Bwyson is now gonna try to get a few quid off the Pastor as well
Pastor Begbie?
No sympathy for the pastor.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2021, 06:11:49 PM
I wouldn't listen to him at all. The problem is not as simple as turning it off. He stirs up hate for a living and it does nothing for this place. You hear some nonsense about this place almost being ready to go to war when it's a very small minority who are annoyed by this border stuff. He provides a voice for those morons and tbh I imagine the likes of him is the reason that lcc have a voice.
Exactly that, particularly as someone who is employed by the 'national' broadcaster and paid via license fee, it's shameful for the BBC. We are not talking about a commercial station here dependent on advertising revenue.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 03, 2021, 05:57:26 PM
The only way you stop the Nolan juggernaut is by not listening to him. His ratings make him untouchable and this weeks events will have strengthened it. For what it's worth it seems he had a strong case against the Pastor. Loads of defamatory comments on the petition he set up which he didn't monitor.
As for Tim McKane he has tried to engage Nolan on the make up of his show, particularly in terms of the over exposure to the likes of Jim Allister. He is a bit obsessive and that dilutes his point I think. It's no different to the heckler and the comedian. The man with the microphone always has the last word....that's Nolan.
He has become more desperate of late, valid points no doubt but it is becoming rambling at this stage.
Tbh it would appear he's pretty much untouchable looking at this. For me he's a boy who should be put off the air but that has very very little chance of happening.
JC's point there is an interesting one about it being an entertainment show not a politics show is an interesting one.
I think that definition could come back to haunt him. It now gives the political parties a valid reason to refuse to come on to his show.
Apparently the pastor was/is a SPAD?
Quote from: Orior on July 05, 2021, 02:12:40 PM
Apparently the pastor was/is a SPAD?
Lots of accusations that it's a member of the Alliance but I'd be surprised at that. More than likely a shinner but whoever they are mustn't be overly clued in tech wise as there are pretty simple ways to hide on the internet if you know how.
Quote from: Eire90 on July 04, 2021, 05:23:03 PM
No sympathy for the pastor.
DiSagree, on the other hand I'd have zero for SN
No time for either of these characters
I would have no time for Nolan at all and most people I speak to would have a similar opinion. The lawsuits are just a means of trying to dampen down criticism of him and his show. It seems peculiar that he settled for a big payout and non disclosure rather than have his day in court. Although he is agnostic so maybe it's just the fact that money is his god that he took the £100k settlement!
I've heard it said before that there would never have been a Good Friday Agreement if Stephen Nolan been around in the 1990's and although that cannot be proved, it is hard to argue with that. He definitely does not provide a climate for promoting good relations in a divided society in the north.
Quote from: johnnycool on July 05, 2021, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Orior on July 05, 2021, 02:12:40 PM
Apparently the pastor was/is a SPAD?
Lots of accusations that it's a member of the Alliance but I'd be surprised at that. More than likely a shinner but whoever they are mustn't be overly clued in tech wise as there are pretty simple ways to hide on the internet if you know how.
Surely if it was a Shinner Nolan would have went to town on them..
It appears to me that Nolan has played on the decision of the other party that their anonymity was of greater value than the 6 figure sum which I don't believe necessarily confirms their guilt as fact, but simply that they would prefer to pay the fee and remain anonymous.
Which also (if the rumour is true) raises a huge question on the earning potential of a SpAd in salary and/or 'expenses'
There would be a few Spads who did very nicely out if the RHI scheme...
Quote from: lfdown2 on July 05, 2021, 05:23:15 PM
It appears to me that Nolan has played on the decision of the other party that their anonymity was of greater value than the 6 figure sum which I don't believe necessarily confirms their guilt as fact, but simply that they would prefer to pay the fee and remain anonymous.
Which also (if the rumour is true) raises a huge question on the earning potential of a SpAd in salary and/or 'expenses'
Paying out £100k hasn't really protected his anonymity though if you consider that he was practically named in a Sunday newspaper article yesterday. There aren't too many Alliance Party Spads so anyone who wants to find out who operated the Pastor account will be able to easily find out.
Quote from: lfdown2 on July 05, 2021, 05:23:15 PM
It appears to me that Nolan has played on the decision of the other party that their anonymity was of greater value than the 6 figure sum which I don't believe necessarily confirms their guilt as fact, but simply that they would prefer to pay the fee and remain anonymous.
Which also (if the rumour is true) raises a huge question on the earning potential of a SpAd in salary and/or 'expenses'
That's my take on it as well. Not being an expert on it but maybe the online petition was doing reputational damage to Steeky but from what I could make out it was based on the inordinate amount of airtime Allister and Bryson in particular are afforded on his
entertainment show based on their mandate which I'd suggest the facts would have backed up the Pastor.
Evidently the Pastor is a novice at trolling as he/she could have covered their tracks better but they have decided and had the resources to take the 6 figure sum hit rather than ride out the court case which probably isn't as clear cut as Nolan and Jamwie are making out..
Quote from: johnnycool on July 06, 2021, 08:40:16 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on July 05, 2021, 05:23:15 PM
It appears to me that Nolan has played on the decision of the other party that their anonymity was of greater value than the 6 figure sum which I don't believe necessarily confirms their guilt as fact, but simply that they would prefer to pay the fee and remain anonymous.
Which also (if the rumour is true) raises a huge question on the earning potential of a SpAd in salary and/or 'expenses'
That's my take on it as well. Not being an expert on it but maybe the online petition was doing reputational damage to Steeky but from what I could make out it was based on the inordinate amount of airtime Allister and Bryson in particular are afforded on his entertainment show based on their mandate which I'd suggest the facts would have backed up the Pastor.
Evidently the Pastor is a novice at trolling as he/she could have covered their tracks better but they have decided and had the resources to take the 6 figure sum hit rather than ride out the court case which probably isn't as clear cut as Nolan and Jamwie are making out..
No.
This is what the pastor said
"For some time, operating the Twitter accounts 'Pastor Jimberoo' and 'Pastor Jimberoo's Ghost', I engaged in a campaign against the BBC personality, Stephen Nolan, which involved the systematic dissemination of false and defamatory allegations against him"
A toolbag of the highest order
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2021, 10:44:29 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 06, 2021, 08:40:16 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on July 05, 2021, 05:23:15 PM
It appears to me that Nolan has played on the decision of the other party that their anonymity was of greater value than the 6 figure sum which I don't believe necessarily confirms their guilt as fact, but simply that they would prefer to pay the fee and remain anonymous.
Which also (if the rumour is true) raises a huge question on the earning potential of a SpAd in salary and/or 'expenses'
That's my take on it as well. Not being an expert on it but maybe the online petition was doing reputational damage to Steeky but from what I could make out it was based on the inordinate amount of airtime Allister and Bryson in particular are afforded on his entertainment show based on their mandate which I'd suggest the facts would have backed up the Pastor.
Evidently the Pastor is a novice at trolling as he/she could have covered their tracks better but they have decided and had the resources to take the 6 figure sum hit rather than ride out the court case which probably isn't as clear cut as Nolan and Jamwie are making out..
No.
This is what the pastor said
"For some time, operating the Twitter accounts 'Pastor Jimberoo' and 'Pastor Jimberoo's Ghost', I engaged in a campaign against the BBC personality, Stephen Nolan, which involved the systematic dissemination of false and defamatory allegations against him"
A toolbag of the highest order
that is what was put into the pastors mouth to get Nolan off his back..
Once Nolan found out whoever it was, he was calling the shots and those statements are part of that.
Quote from: yellowcard on July 05, 2021, 08:17:44 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on July 05, 2021, 05:23:15 PM
It appears to me that Nolan has played on the decision of the other party that their anonymity was of greater value than the 6 figure sum which I don't believe necessarily confirms their guilt as fact, but simply that they would prefer to pay the fee and remain anonymous.
Which also (if the rumour is true) raises a huge question on the earning potential of a SpAd in salary and/or 'expenses'
Paying out £100k hasn't really protected his anonymity though if you consider that he was practically named in a Sunday newspaper article yesterday. There aren't too many Alliance Party Spads so anyone who wants to find out who operated the Pastor account will be able to easily find out.
What does a Spad make?? They were making about £72k a year a few years ago so probably something closer to £45k/50k net. Whoever this is they had more than just SPAD wealth!!
"The Twitter troll forced to hand over £100,000 in libel damages to Stephen Nolan has advised Northern Ireland government officials in his well-paid role in economics and finance.
Fearing for his career, the Alliance party voter in his 40s, who used the Twitter handles 'Pastor Jimberoo' and 'Pastor Jimberoo's Ghost' to harass the BBC presenter, begged him not to reveal his identity.
Nolan has stuck to the agreement, saying it shows that he is the "bigger man".
That's from the Sunday Life story, it doesent necessarily make him a SpAd. People can advise government on a range of issues if they have the expertise. A SpAd is different.
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 06, 2021, 01:00:19 PM
"The Twitter troll forced to hand over £100,000 in libel damages to Stephen Nolan has advised Northern Ireland government officials in his well-paid role in economics and finance.
Fearing for his career, the Alliance party voter in his 40s, who used the Twitter handles 'Pastor Jimberoo' and 'Pastor Jimberoo's Ghost' to harass the BBC presenter, begged him not to reveal his identity.
Nolan has stuck to the agreement, saying it shows that he is the "bigger man".
That's from the Sunday Life story, it doesent necessarily make him a SpAd. People can advise government on a range of issues if they have the expertise. A SpAd is different.
Yeah I don't think it is an Alliance Party SpAD going by that. The only Alliance party SpAD is a girl Patricia O'Loan I think. And she is obviously in Justice.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57736237
- Fifth highest paid on-air employee
- Up approx. £10k-£15k from previous year
He must be doing something right in the Beebs eyes
Quote from: Decod89 on July 06, 2021, 01:39:48 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57736237
- Fifth highest paid on-air employee
- Up approx. £10k-£15k from previous year
He must be doing something right in the Beebs eyes
Ratings
Big listenership. GAA board is not a reflection of the wider public on this subject.
Stirring, would do well in here..............!
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2021, 01:49:08 PM
Quote from: Decod89 on July 06, 2021, 01:39:48 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57736237
- Fifth highest paid on-air employee
- Up approx. £10k-£15k from previous year
He must be doing something right in the Beebs eyes
Ratings
Big listenership. GAA board is not a reflection of the wider public on this subject.
Agree, while he's not my cup of tea at all, he must bring in a serious % of available audience for his shows both here and on 5Live.
I see that he's paid more than double what the the director of BBCNI earns.
Petitions wont bridge that gap.
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 06, 2021, 01:00:19 PM
"The Twitter troll forced to hand over £100,000 in libel damages to Stephen Nolan has advised Northern Ireland government officials in his well-paid role in economics and finance.
Fearing for his career, the Alliance party voter in his 40s, who used the Twitter handles 'Pastor Jimberoo' and 'Pastor Jimberoo's Ghost' to harass the BBC presenter, begged him not to reveal his identity.
Nolan has stuck to the agreement, saying it shows that he is the "bigger man".
That's from the Sunday Life story, it doesent necessarily make him a SpAd. People can advise government on a range of issues if they have the expertise. A SpAd is different.
100k for him to b the bigger man? The bigger man would have accepted an apology and costs.
That's a bigger salary than the US president.
The Nolan show I'm sure does some good, but high ratings doesn't mean that the progamme provides NET community benefit or public good. In my view it does public harm as it promotes ThemUns v Ussuns style discussion in a way that is not constructive.
It is not remotely edifying and I can't see how it makes any attempt to take the level of public discourse out of the gutter.
Do not confuse programmes that interest the public with programmes that are in the public interest.
I'm sure Naked Attraction has good ratings; doesn't mean that it is in the public interest,
Quote from: APM on July 06, 2021, 03:50:43 PM
The Nolan show I'm sure does some good, but high ratings doesn't mean that the progamme provides NET community benefit or public good. In my view it does public harm as it promotes ThemUns v Ussuns style discussion in a way that is not constructive.
It is not remotely edifying and I can't see how it makes any attempt to take the level of public discourse out of the gutter.
Do not confuse programmes that interest the public with programmes that are in the public interest.
I'm sure Naked Attraction has good ratings; doesn't mean that it is in the public interest,
The Nolan Show, like anything Piers Morgan does, is about him not the subject matter.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 06, 2021, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: APM on July 06, 2021, 03:50:43 PM
The Nolan show I'm sure does some good, but high ratings doesn't mean that the progamme provides NET community benefit or public good. In my view it does public harm as it promotes ThemUns v Ussuns style discussion in a way that is not constructive.
It is not remotely edifying and I can't see how it makes any attempt to take the level of public discourse out of the gutter.
Do not confuse programmes that interest the public with programmes that are in the public interest.
I'm sure Naked Attraction has good ratings; doesn't mean that it is in the public interest,
The Nolan Show, like anything Piers Morgan does, is about him not the subject matter.
A narcissist.
But people love the drama, its in our DNA here and has been for a long time. As someone said its not in the public interest but people are defs interested
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 06, 2021, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: APM on July 06, 2021, 03:50:43 PM
The Nolan show I'm sure does some good, but high ratings doesn't mean that the progamme provides NET community benefit or public good. In my view it does public harm as it promotes ThemUns v Ussuns style discussion in a way that is not constructive.
It is not remotely edifying and I can't see how it makes any attempt to take the level of public discourse out of the gutter.
Do not confuse programmes that interest the public with programmes that are in the public interest.
I'm sure Naked Attraction has good ratings; doesn't mean that it is in the public interest,
The Nolan Show, like anything Piers Morgan does, is about him not the subject matter.
I would say Morgan is multiple times better than Nolan.
Morgan at least has the balls to stand up to anyone & ask the hard questions.
Nolan only seems to have the gonads to do this to a certain sector of the community
Quote from: Decod89 on July 06, 2021, 01:54:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2021, 01:49:08 PM
Quote from: Decod89 on July 06, 2021, 01:39:48 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57736237
- Fifth highest paid on-air employee
- Up approx. £10k-£15k from previous year
He must be doing something right in the Beebs eyes
Ratings
Big listenership. GAA board is not a reflection of the wider public on this subject.
Agree, while he's not my cup of tea at all, he must bring in a serious % of available audience for his shows both here and on 5Live.
I see that he's paid more than double what the the director of BBCNI earns.
Petitions wont bridge that gap.
There's a good chance the petition was causing concerns to his 5 Live bosses and he'd to be seen to be doing something about it.
He's evidently struck gold with whoever Pastor was and had them by the short and curlies evidently but I saw a lot of those tweets and I'd doubt there was much libelous in them.
Your man Tim McKane was live on air and openly invited Nolan to sue him. Wonder did anything ever come of that?
Quote from: general_lee on July 06, 2021, 04:43:33 PM
Your man Tim McKane was live on air and openly invited Nolan to sue him. Wonder did anything ever come of that?
Another rocket head
Quote from: Taylor on July 06, 2021, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 06, 2021, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: APM on July 06, 2021, 03:50:43 PM
The Nolan show I'm sure does some good, but high ratings doesn't mean that the progamme provides NET community benefit or public good. In my view it does public harm as it promotes ThemUns v Ussuns style discussion in a way that is not constructive.
It is not remotely edifying and I can't see how it makes any attempt to take the level of public discourse out of the gutter.
Do not confuse programmes that interest the public with programmes that are in the public interest.
I'm sure Naked Attraction has good ratings; doesn't mean that it is in the public interest,
The Nolan Show, like anything Piers Morgan does, is about him not the subject matter.
I would say Morgan is multiple times better than Nolan.
Morgan at least has the balls to stand up to anyone & ask the hard questions.
Nolan only seems to have the gonads to do this to a certain sector of the community
In fairness he got stuck into the DUP over RHI
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2021, 05:02:31 PM
Quote from: general_lee on July 06, 2021, 04:43:33 PM
Your man Tim McKane was live on air and openly invited Nolan to sue him. Wonder did anything ever come of that?
Another rocket head
Why is he a rocket head, whatever that is?
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 06, 2021, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: Taylor on July 06, 2021, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 06, 2021, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: APM on July 06, 2021, 03:50:43 PM
The Nolan show I'm sure does some good, but high ratings doesn't mean that the progamme provides NET community benefit or public good. In my view it does public harm as it promotes ThemUns v Ussuns style discussion in a way that is not constructive.
It is not remotely edifying and I can't see how it makes any attempt to take the level of public discourse out of the gutter.
Do not confuse programmes that interest the public with programmes that are in the public interest.
I'm sure Naked Attraction has good ratings; doesn't mean that it is in the public interest,
The Nolan Show, like anything Piers Morgan does, is about him not the subject matter.
I would say Morgan is multiple times better than Nolan.
Morgan at least has the balls to stand up to anyone & ask the hard questions.
Nolan only seems to have the gonads to do this to a certain sector of the community
In fairness he got stuck into the DUP over RHI
He did .daily for about 6 months
Quote from: APM on July 06, 2021, 05:07:13 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2021, 05:02:31 PM
Quote from: general_lee on July 06, 2021, 04:43:33 PM
Your man Tim McKane was live on air and openly invited Nolan to sue him. Wonder did anything ever come of that?
Another rocket head
Why is he a rocket head, whatever that is?
Rants incessantly on Twitter
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2021, 06:30:44 PM
Quote from: APM on July 06, 2021, 05:07:13 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2021, 05:02:31 PM
Quote from: general_lee on July 06, 2021, 04:43:33 PM
Your man Tim McKane was live on air and openly invited Nolan to sue him. Wonder did anything ever come of that?
Another rocket head
Why is he a rocket head, whatever that is?
Rants incessantly on Twitter
In tim's case a lot of it is very constructive. I enjoy his posts. He basically says what we are all thinking that Nolan is nothing but a road block to proper peace in our time just for the sake a few listeners and viewers on tele. How the BBC can justify his enormous wage i'll never get my head around it
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2021, 06:28:56 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 06, 2021, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: Taylor on July 06, 2021, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 06, 2021, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: APM on July 06, 2021, 03:50:43 PM
The Nolan show I'm sure does some good, but high ratings doesn't mean that the progamme provides NET community benefit or public good. In my view it does public harm as it promotes ThemUns v Ussuns style discussion in a way that is not constructive.
It is not remotely edifying and I can't see how it makes any attempt to take the level of public discourse out of the gutter.
Do not confuse programmes that interest the public with programmes that are in the public interest.
I'm sure Naked Attraction has good ratings; doesn't mean that it is in the public interest,
The Nolan Show, like anything Piers Morgan does, is about him not the subject matter.
I would say Morgan is multiple times better than Nolan.
Morgan at least has the balls to stand up to anyone & ask the hard questions.
Nolan only seems to have the gonads to do this to a certain sector of the community
In fairness he got stuck into the DUP over RHI
He did .daily for about 6 months
He had to for RHI - for everything else it seems only one side of the community get it.
How long did he go on about Storey?
His contributors to the show is a major sticking point for many people
Quote from: Taylor on July 06, 2021, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2021, 06:28:56 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 06, 2021, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: Taylor on July 06, 2021, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 06, 2021, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: APM on July 06, 2021, 03:50:43 PM
The Nolan show I'm sure does some good, but high ratings doesn't mean that the progamme provides NET community benefit or public good. In my view it does public harm as it promotes ThemUns v Ussuns style discussion in a way that is not constructive.
It is not remotely edifying and I can't see how it makes any attempt to take the level of public discourse out of the gutter.
Do not confuse programmes that interest the public with programmes that are in the public interest.
I'm sure Naked Attraction has good ratings; doesn't mean that it is in the public interest,
The Nolan Show, like anything Piers Morgan does, is about him not the subject matter.
I would say Morgan is multiple times better than Nolan.
Morgan at least has the balls to stand up to anyone & ask the hard questions.
Nolan only seems to have the gonads to do this to a certain sector of the community
In fairness he got stuck into the DUP over RHI
He did .daily for about 6 months
He had to for RHI - for everything else it seems only one side of the community get it.
How long did he go on about Storey?
His contributors to the show is a major sticking point for many people
Not sure , stopped listening to him , but storey another disgrace just like rhi. Mon contributed to it by stubbornly refusing to admit wrong. Could have nipped it in the bud and gained some respect
He had to follow the storey issue too, blatant 2 fingers to us all from govt
Ive been listening to his show since the DUP went belly up, I just catch up with selected bits on BBC Sounds. The first segment in this morning's show ranked with the worst. It dealt with Nolan ringing his church bells with gusto and ranting against the Irish Republic BIAS against NORN IRON UK citizens, on behalf of the trials and tribulations experienced by a Newry couple arriving into Dublin Airport from Edinburgh on a British passport, with no negative covid test who were subsequently escorted into a quarantine hotel.
It irritates me to hear the term used Irish Republic, It's Ireland !!! the effin name of the country is Ireland , as is named in Dev's constitution.
The Republic of Ireland is just a description, it is not the name of the country. What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland. And on an Irish passport is Ireland with a nice graphic of the whole Island.
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
Ive been listening to his show since the DUP went belly up, I just catch up with selected bits on BBC Sounds. The first segment in this morning's show ranked with the worst. It dealt with Nolan ringing his church bells with gusto and ranting against the Irish Republic BIAS against NORN IRON UK citizens, on behalf of the trials and tribulations experienced by a Newry couple arriving into Dublin Airport from Edinburgh on a British passport, with no negative covid test who were subsequently escorted into a quarantine hotel.
It irritates me to hear the term used Irish Republic, It's Ireland !!! the effin name of the country is Ireland , as is named in Dev's constitution.
The Republic of Ireland is just a description, it is not the name of the country. What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland. And on an Irish passport is Ireland with a nice graphic of the whole Island.
It's Éire
My guess is that Nolan will be retired before too long.
BBC will likely be subject to an enquiry or two soon about playing a role in facilitating propaganda and hate. They're not daft. They know it's coming. And they'll try to walk away from it before it happens.
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland.
You know what's worse than Nolan's terminology? People from the south trying to appropriate the name Ireland as as the name of the 26 counties and the 26 counties only.
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2021, 06:28:56 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 06, 2021, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: Taylor on July 06, 2021, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 06, 2021, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: APM on July 06, 2021, 03:50:43 PM
The Nolan show I'm sure does some good, but high ratings doesn't mean that the progamme provides NET community benefit or public good. In my view it does public harm as it promotes ThemUns v Ussuns style discussion in a way that is not constructive.
It is not remotely edifying and I can't see how it makes any attempt to take the level of public discourse out of the gutter.
Do not confuse programmes that interest the public with programmes that are in the public interest.
I'm sure Naked Attraction has good ratings; doesn't mean that it is in the public interest,
The Nolan Show, like anything Piers Morgan does, is about him not the subject matter.
I would say Morgan is multiple times better than Nolan.
Morgan at least has the balls to stand up to anyone & ask the hard questions.
Nolan only seems to have the gonads to do this to a certain sector of the community
In fairness he got stuck into the DUP over RHI
He did .daily for about 6 months
It must have been a ratings winner for him, a bit like the Bobby Storey funeral.
He must run a story, see what the ratings are like and then decide whether to shÃt stir more or move on to something else.
He did a bit about Muckamore and then moved on quickly. The ratings weren't there.
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
Ive been listening to his show since the DUP went belly up, I just catch up with selected bits on BBC Sounds. The first segment in this morning's show ranked with the worst. It dealt with Nolan ringing his church bells with gusto and ranting against the Irish Republic BIAS against NORN IRON UK citizens, on behalf of the trials and tribulations experienced by a Newry couple arriving into Dublin Airport from Edinburgh on a British passport, with no negative covid test who were subsequently escorted into a quarantine hotel.
It irritates me to hear the term used Irish Republic, It's Ireland !!! the effin name of the country is Ireland , as is named in Dev's constitution.
The Republic of Ireland is just a description, it is not the name of the country. What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland. And on an Irish passport is Ireland with a nice graphic of the whole Island.
I remember listening to Nolan a few years back (before I stopped) and he was asking listeners to recommend places to visit in the 'Republic of Ireland' on a short break since he had never been down south. He made it sound like it was an alien land far away but the fact that he hadn't been across the border said enough. His blatant ignorance and disdain for anything to do with Irish culture and tradition was always very obvious on air.
Quote from: yellowcard on July 07, 2021, 09:24:14 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
Ive been listening to his show since the DUP went belly up, I just catch up with selected bits on BBC Sounds. The first segment in this morning’s show ranked with the worst. It dealt with Nolan ringing his church bells with gusto and ranting against the Irish Republic BIAS against NORN IRON UK citizens, on behalf of the trials and tribulations experienced by a Newry couple arriving into Dublin Airport from Edinburgh on a British passport, with no negative covid test who were subsequently escorted into a quarantine hotel.
It irritates me to hear the term used Irish Republic, It’s Ireland !!! the effin name of the country is Ireland , as is named in Dev’s constitution.
The Republic of Ireland is just a description, it is not the name of the country. What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland. And on an Irish passport is Ireland with a nice graphic of the whole Island.
I remember listening to Nolan a few years back (before I stopped) and he was asking listeners to recommend places to visit in the 'Republic of Ireland' on a short break since he had never been down south. He made it sound like it was an alien land far away but the fact that he hadn't been across the border said enough. His blatant ignorance and disdain for anything to do with Irish culture and tradition was always very obvious on air.
Going to defend Nolan here, I don't think he is sectarian at all. He just stokes the flames from either side to get an argument going, get the ratings up, that is all he cares about. The stupid people are those that think he is biased against their side. I worked with a girl from Bangor who didn't believe me when I said he was a protestant from Belfast, she truly believed he was a secret shinner.
He is just a wind-up merchant and I listen to his show purely for the entertainment value of some idiot from the Shankill or West Belfast ringing in with their sectarian views.
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 07, 2021, 09:24:14 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
Ive been listening to his show since the DUP went belly up, I just catch up with selected bits on BBC Sounds. The first segment in this morning's show ranked with the worst. It dealt with Nolan ringing his church bells with gusto and ranting against the Irish Republic BIAS against NORN IRON UK citizens, on behalf of the trials and tribulations experienced by a Newry couple arriving into Dublin Airport from Edinburgh on a British passport, with no negative covid test who were subsequently escorted into a quarantine hotel.
It irritates me to hear the term used Irish Republic, It's Ireland !!! the effin name of the country is Ireland , as is named in Dev's constitution.
The Republic of Ireland is just a description, it is not the name of the country. What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland. And on an Irish passport is Ireland with a nice graphic of the whole Island.
I remember listening to Nolan a few years back (before I stopped) and he was asking listeners to recommend places to visit in the 'Republic of Ireland' on a short break since he had never been down south. He made it sound like it was an alien land far away but the fact that he hadn't been across the border said enough. His blatant ignorance and disdain for anything to do with Irish culture and tradition was always very obvious on air.
Going to defend Nolan here, I don't think he is sectarian at all. He just stokes the flames from either side to get an argument going, get the ratings up, that is all he cares about. The stupid people are those that think he is biased against their side. I worked with a girl from Bangor who didn't believe me when I said he was a protestant from Belfast, she truly believed he was a secret shinner.
He is just a wind-up merchant and I listen to his show purely for the entertainment value of some idiot from the Shankill or West Belfast ringing in with their sectarian views.
There's probably something to that alright, Mario.
IMO there is more likelihood to get an over the top rage reaction from the "PUL" community - possibly why he goes harder on the shinners, or stokes the brexit and protocol issues.
I still think he's rotten for stoking up any tensions - but he's happy enough with his bag of silver.
Quote from: JohnDenver on July 07, 2021, 09:49:59 AM
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 07, 2021, 09:24:14 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
Ive been listening to his show since the DUP went belly up, I just catch up with selected bits on BBC Sounds. The first segment in this morning's show ranked with the worst. It dealt with Nolan ringing his church bells with gusto and ranting against the Irish Republic BIAS against NORN IRON UK citizens, on behalf of the trials and tribulations experienced by a Newry couple arriving into Dublin Airport from Edinburgh on a British passport, with no negative covid test who were subsequently escorted into a quarantine hotel.
It irritates me to hear the term used Irish Republic, It's Ireland !!! the effin name of the country is Ireland , as is named in Dev's constitution.
The Republic of Ireland is just a description, it is not the name of the country. What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland. And on an Irish passport is Ireland with a nice graphic of the whole Island.
I remember listening to Nolan a few years back (before I stopped) and he was asking listeners to recommend places to visit in the 'Republic of Ireland' on a short break since he had never been down south. He made it sound like it was an alien land far away but the fact that he hadn't been across the border said enough. His blatant ignorance and disdain for anything to do with Irish culture and tradition was always very obvious on air.
Going to defend Nolan here, I don't think he is sectarian at all. He just stokes the flames from either side to get an argument going, get the ratings up, that is all he cares about. The stupid people are those that think he is biased against their side. I worked with a girl from Bangor who didn't believe me when I said he was a protestant from Belfast, she truly believed he was a secret shinner.
He is just a wind-up merchant and I listen to his show purely for the entertainment value of some idiot from the Shankill or West Belfast ringing in with their sectarian views.
There's probably something to that alright, Mario.
IMO there is more likelihood to get an over the top rage reaction from the "PUL" community - possibly why he goes harder on the shinners, or stokes the brexit and protocol issues.
I still think he's rotten for stoking up any tensions - but he's happy enough with his bag of silver.
The fact is that he sometimes sets the agenda and it's pure sectarian bullshit as we see Robin Swann wanting to speak to his Irish counterpart about how the Newry couple were treated that boils my piss.
He's the Jeremy Kyle of Norn Iron radio and shouldn't be taken seriously as he isn't a qualified journalist by his own admission
It is not so much that he is sectarian it's the fact that he has a clear issue with SF because they won't speak to him and he goes out of his way to target them. Deirdre Hargey is his present target through the COVID grants and the capita stuff. Whilst there may be something requiring investigation it has made it all the sweeter by being a SF lead department.
It's all about ratings and to be honest he gets a greater stir in the pot from the PUL community as they are vulnerable at the minute and like a cornered rat would do they are lashing out harder. He is a shock jock. Every so often he has decent stories but most of the time he is stirring it up.
I wonder if he'll do something in the RUC station closing in Cross. Let's be honest that will be one of the biggest stories of its kind given the history of the place. Will be some party when the walls are pulled down, kinda like the Berlin Wall, we will all be looking out piece of rubble!!!
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 07, 2021, 09:24:14 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
Ive been listening to his show since the DUP went belly up, I just catch up with selected bits on BBC Sounds. The first segment in this morning's show ranked with the worst. It dealt with Nolan ringing his church bells with gusto and ranting against the Irish Republic BIAS against NORN IRON UK citizens, on behalf of the trials and tribulations experienced by a Newry couple arriving into Dublin Airport from Edinburgh on a British passport, with no negative covid test who were subsequently escorted into a quarantine hotel.
It irritates me to hear the term used Irish Republic, It's Ireland !!! the effin name of the country is Ireland , as is named in Dev's constitution.
The Republic of Ireland is just a description, it is not the name of the country. What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland. And on an Irish passport is Ireland with a nice graphic of the whole Island.
I remember listening to Nolan a few years back (before I stopped) and he was asking listeners to recommend places to visit in the 'Republic of Ireland' on a short break since he had never been down south. He made it sound like it was an alien land far away but the fact that he hadn't been across the border said enough. His blatant ignorance and disdain for anything to do with Irish culture and tradition was always very obvious on air.
Going to defend Nolan here, I don't think he is sectarian at all. He just stokes the flames from either side to get an argument going, get the ratings up, that is all he cares about. The stupid people are those that think he is biased against their side. I worked with a girl from Bangor who didn't believe me when I said he was a protestant from Belfast, she truly believed he was a secret shinner.
He is just a wind-up merchant and I listen to his show purely for the entertainment value of some idiot from the Shankill or West Belfast ringing in with their sectarian views.
He is from the Shankill himself so you would have to be incredibly stupid or uninformed to think he was a Shinner. I'm not saying that he is necessarily sectarian but he is most definitely very culturally British. His show though does depend and thrive on sectarianism. A peaceful harmonised society is not in Nolan's own interests and his show is borne out of the hatred and division. I agree that there is more of this hatred and anger on the loyalist side and Jim Allister and Jamie Bryson are perfect pupeteers for the type of show he wishes to create.
I can think of far better ways of getting my entertainment than listening to Nolan's shitshow.
""The stupid people are those that think he is biased against their side. I worked with a girl from Bangor who didn't believe me when I said he was a protestant from Belfast, she truly believed he was a secret shinner.""
You 2 will have beautiful children... :D :D
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 09:38:02 AM
Going to defend Nolan here, I don't think he is sectarian at all. He just stokes the flames from either side to get an argument going, get the ratings up, that is all he cares about. The stupid people are those that think he is biased against their side. I worked with a girl from Bangor who didn't believe me when I said he was a protestant from Belfast, she truly believed he was a secret shinner.
He is just a wind-up merchant and I listen to his show purely for the entertainment value of some idiot from the Shankill or West Belfast ringing in with their sectarian views.
I would have to disagree. He is the anchor of the show and a recent analysis of the show I came across somewhere in the twittersphere showed that during the dates being analysed, something in the region of 45% of invited contributors were unionist compared to something like 12% nationalist. I can't recall the exact figures but it was striking. That is not just him stirring. It is a consistent sectarian bias from a public broadcaster.
I know I posted this before, but what typifies Nolan for me was his antics in February 2018 when stormont was collapsed, and talks were at an advanced stage aimed at reinstating the assembly. He spent months and months criticising politicians for not compromising to get the institutions back until lo and behold, the first day news leaked that a compromise may have been reached, Nolan was all over it the next morning like a rash, whipping unionism into an absolute frenzy over the news that the DUP had made an apparent compromise on an Irish Language Act.
I posted here before that in the space of the ten days in/around that time in February '18, Nolan had Jim Allister on as a guest on his radio/tv shows on the
9th, 11th, 12th, on BOTH his radio and TV shows on 14th, on 15th and the 19th. That's seven times in ten shows. Who else (Bryson aside) gets airtime like that on any political radio or TV show? And then when the deal collapsed, guess who was back on his radio show/high horse, damning politicians from a height for failing to agree said compromise? I stopped listening to any of his output since.
If his show is not institutionally sectarian, then what is the explanation for his constant platforming of Jamie Bryson (an individual literally no other broadcaster gives time of day to), and Jim Allister - a man who, if twitter is anything to go by, continues to be on the show at least three times a week despite him being the leader and only MLA in the Assembly's smallest party?
You might claim that he only provides a platforms to two such extremist unionists as a means of winding people - but if that was the only reason, then surely he could offer some unelected dissident republican binlid with links to a paramilitary organisation an almost daily slot on his show, just to wind people up? The reality, as far as I can see, is that his show is a means of stoking sectarian tension and is done so from the conscious position of unionist bias. A bias which the bare statistics overwhelmingly back up.
Quote from: Snapchap on July 07, 2021, 12:48:36 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 09:38:02 AM
Going to defend Nolan here, I don't think he is sectarian at all. He just stokes the flames from either side to get an argument going, get the ratings up, that is all he cares about. The stupid people are those that think he is biased against their side. I worked with a girl from Bangor who didn't believe me when I said he was a protestant from Belfast, she truly believed he was a secret shinner.
He is just a wind-up merchant and I listen to his show purely for the entertainment value of some idiot from the Shankill or West Belfast ringing in with their sectarian views.
I would have to disagree. He is the anchor of the show and a recent analysis of the show I came across somewhere in the twittersphere showed that during the dates being analysed, something in the region of 45% of invited contributors were unionist compared to something like 12% nationalist. I can't recall the exact figures but it was striking. That is not just him stirring. It is a consistent sectarian bias from a public broadcaster.
I know I posted this before, but what typifies Nolan for me was his antics in February 2018 when stormont was collapsed, and talks were at an advanced stage aimed at reinstating the assembly. He spent months and months criticising politicians for not compromising to get the institutions back until lo and behold, the first day news leaked that a compromise may have been reached, Nolan was all over it the next morning like a rash, whipping unionism into an absolute frenzy over the news that the DUP had made an apparent compromise on an Irish Language Act.
I posted here before that in the space of the ten days in/around that time in February '18, Nolan had Jim Allister on as a guest on his radio/tv shows on the 9th, 11th, 12th, on BOTH his radio and TV shows on 14th, on 15th and the 19th. That's seven times in ten shows. Who else (Bryson aside) gets airtime like that on any political radio or TV show? And then when the deal collapsed, guess who was back on his radio show/high horse, damning politicians from a height for failing to agree said compromise? I stopped listening to any of his output since.
If his show is not institutionally sectarian, then what is the explanation for his constant platforming of Jamie Bryson (an individual literally no other broadcaster gives time of day to), and Jim Allister - a man who, if twitter is anything to go by, continues to be on the show at least three times a week despite him being the leader and only MLA in the Assembly's smallest party?
You might claim that he only provides a platforms to two such extremist unionists as a means of winding people - but if that was the only reason, then surely he could offer some unelected dissident republican binlid with links to a paramilitary organisation an almost daily slot on his show, just to wind people up? The reality, as far as I can see, is that his show is a means of stoking sectarian tension and is done so from the conscious position of unionist bias. A bias which the bare statistics overwhelmingly back up.
Other parties are asked on regularly but have the sense to know they are better off avoiding Nolan. Just because you have Allister or Bryson on more than nationalist representatives does not show institutional sectarianism. What it shows to me is that unionism/loyalism is in disarray and these are the people that what to talk about the current issues on the show. Brexit, the protocol, the DUP leadership, Bonfires/12th. Do any nationalists feel that strongly about the current position on any of these issues?
As for asking on dissident republicans, in general working class inner city catholics are well represented politically. Working class loyalists are not, the DUP rile them up come election time to get votes but want nothing to do with them. I'm no fan of Bryson but his views are the views of loyalists around Belfast.
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 01:50:33 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on July 07, 2021, 12:48:36 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 09:38:02 AM
Going to defend Nolan here, I don't think he is sectarian at all. He just stokes the flames from either side to get an argument going, get the ratings up, that is all he cares about. The stupid people are those that think he is biased against their side. I worked with a girl from Bangor who didn't believe me when I said he was a protestant from Belfast, she truly believed he was a secret shinner.
He is just a wind-up merchant and I listen to his show purely for the entertainment value of some idiot from the Shankill or West Belfast ringing in with their sectarian views.
I would have to disagree. He is the anchor of the show and a recent analysis of the show I came across somewhere in the twittersphere showed that during the dates being analysed, something in the region of 45% of invited contributors were unionist compared to something like 12% nationalist. I can't recall the exact figures but it was striking. That is not just him stirring. It is a consistent sectarian bias from a public broadcaster.
I know I posted this before, but what typifies Nolan for me was his antics in February 2018 when stormont was collapsed, and talks were at an advanced stage aimed at reinstating the assembly. He spent months and months criticising politicians for not compromising to get the institutions back until lo and behold, the first day news leaked that a compromise may have been reached, Nolan was all over it the next morning like a rash, whipping unionism into an absolute frenzy over the news that the DUP had made an apparent compromise on an Irish Language Act.
I posted here before that in the space of the ten days in/around that time in February '18, Nolan had Jim Allister on as a guest on his radio/tv shows on the 9th, 11th, 12th, on BOTH his radio and TV shows on 14th, on 15th and the 19th. That's seven times in ten shows. Who else (Bryson aside) gets airtime like that on any political radio or TV show? And then when the deal collapsed, guess who was back on his radio show/high horse, damning politicians from a height for failing to agree said compromise? I stopped listening to any of his output since.
If his show is not institutionally sectarian, then what is the explanation for his constant platforming of Jamie Bryson (an individual literally no other broadcaster gives time of day to), and Jim Allister - a man who, if twitter is anything to go by, continues to be on the show at least three times a week despite him being the leader and only MLA in the Assembly's smallest party?
You might claim that he only provides a platforms to two such extremist unionists as a means of winding people - but if that was the only reason, then surely he could offer some unelected dissident republican binlid with links to a paramilitary organisation an almost daily slot on his show, just to wind people up? The reality, as far as I can see, is that his show is a means of stoking sectarian tension and is done so from the conscious position of unionist bias. A bias which the bare statistics overwhelmingly back up.
Other parties are asked on regularly but have the sense to know they are better off avoiding Nolan. Just because you have Allister or Bryson on more than nationalist representatives does not show institutional sectarianism. What it shows to me is that unionism/loyalism is in disarray and these are the people that what to talk about the current issues on the show. Brexit, the protocol, the DUP leadership, Bonfires/12th. Do any nationalists feel that strongly about the current position on any of these issues?
As for asking on dissident republicans, in general working class inner city catholics are well represented politically. Working class loyalists are not, the DUP rile them up come election time to get votes but want nothing to do with them. I'm no fan of Bryson but his views are the views of loyalists around Belfast.
His views represent a couple of hundred people based on the last time he stood for anything. Nobody else, sure FFS at the last anti-protocol in Newtownards got a couple of hundred at best mostly bands and kids..
Do you think it would be right to have that dissie group in Derry on all the time?
Quote from: johnnycool on July 07, 2021, 02:03:01 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 01:50:33 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on July 07, 2021, 12:48:36 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 09:38:02 AM
Going to defend Nolan here, I don't think he is sectarian at all. He just stokes the flames from either side to get an argument going, get the ratings up, that is all he cares about. The stupid people are those that think he is biased against their side. I worked with a girl from Bangor who didn't believe me when I said he was a protestant from Belfast, she truly believed he was a secret shinner.
He is just a wind-up merchant and I listen to his show purely for the entertainment value of some idiot from the Shankill or West Belfast ringing in with their sectarian views.
I would have to disagree. He is the anchor of the show and a recent analysis of the show I came across somewhere in the twittersphere showed that during the dates being analysed, something in the region of 45% of invited contributors were unionist compared to something like 12% nationalist. I can't recall the exact figures but it was striking. That is not just him stirring. It is a consistent sectarian bias from a public broadcaster.
I know I posted this before, but what typifies Nolan for me was his antics in February 2018 when stormont was collapsed, and talks were at an advanced stage aimed at reinstating the assembly. He spent months and months criticising politicians for not compromising to get the institutions back until lo and behold, the first day news leaked that a compromise may have been reached, Nolan was all over it the next morning like a rash, whipping unionism into an absolute frenzy over the news that the DUP had made an apparent compromise on an Irish Language Act.
I posted here before that in the space of the ten days in/around that time in February '18, Nolan had Jim Allister on as a guest on his radio/tv shows on the 9th, 11th, 12th, on BOTH his radio and TV shows on 14th, on 15th and the 19th. That's seven times in ten shows. Who else (Bryson aside) gets airtime like that on any political radio or TV show? And then when the deal collapsed, guess who was back on his radio show/high horse, damning politicians from a height for failing to agree said compromise? I stopped listening to any of his output since.
If his show is not institutionally sectarian, then what is the explanation for his constant platforming of Jamie Bryson (an individual literally no other broadcaster gives time of day to), and Jim Allister - a man who, if twitter is anything to go by, continues to be on the show at least three times a week despite him being the leader and only MLA in the Assembly's smallest party?
You might claim that he only provides a platforms to two such extremist unionists as a means of winding people - but if that was the only reason, then surely he could offer some unelected dissident republican binlid with links to a paramilitary organisation an almost daily slot on his show, just to wind people up? The reality, as far as I can see, is that his show is a means of stoking sectarian tension and is done so from the conscious position of unionist bias. A bias which the bare statistics overwhelmingly back up.
Other parties are asked on regularly but have the sense to know they are better off avoiding Nolan. Just because you have Allister or Bryson on more than nationalist representatives does not show institutional sectarianism. What it shows to me is that unionism/loyalism is in disarray and these are the people that what to talk about the current issues on the show. Brexit, the protocol, the DUP leadership, Bonfires/12th. Do any nationalists feel that strongly about the current position on any of these issues?
As for asking on dissident republicans, in general working class inner city catholics are well represented politically. Working class loyalists are not, the DUP rile them up come election time to get votes but want nothing to do with them. I'm no fan of Bryson but his views are the views of loyalists around Belfast.
His views represent a couple of hundred people based on the last time he stood for anything. Nobody else, sure FFS at the last anti-protocol in Newtownards got a couple of hundred at best mostly bands and kids..
Do you think it would be right to have that dissie group in Derry on all the time?
I think his views represent loyalism. I think he doesn't do well at elections as the loyalist vote is driven by fear of Sinn Fein, any vote for a party outside the DUP is splitting the unionist vote and is a vote for SF. Before I go down as a Bryson supporter I absolutely agree he shouldn't be on the show as much as he is, but he's controversial and that helps ratings. I just don't think you need 50/50 representation on the show. Representation should be driven by the issues being discussed. eg the NI protocol, as a nationalist i'm happy with it, i don't need my politicians on defending an irish sea border everyday. Unionists aren't so they will be the people on the show.
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 01:50:33 PM
Other parties are asked on regularly but have the sense to know they are better off avoiding Nolan. Just because you have Allister or Bryson on more than nationalist representatives does not show institutional sectarianism.
Sorry, but I just don't buy that for a second. Are you seriously suggesting that they cannot find ANYONE from the nationalist/republican community to be a regular contributor to his show? That he would have a number of nationalist/republican contributors on as routinely as Allister/Byrson, if he could only just find one, is just fanciful stuff.
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 01:50:33 PM
What it shows to me is that unionism/loyalism is in disarray and these are the people that what to talk about the current issues on the show. Brexit, the protocol, the DUP leadership, Bonfires/12th. Do any nationalists feel that strongly about the current position on any of these issues?
The Nolan show, and the problems with it, aren't a recent phenomenon. It has always, always, been a show presented by a unionist, from a unionist perspective, with invited guest overwhelmingly weighted towards the unionist side of the divide - and again the stats are there to back that up.
If you think he concentrates on unionist guests because you think nationalists are not concerned about something as huge as Brexit, then that's an odd enough claim, but besides that, how often do you hear Nolan devoting months unend to coverage of, for instance, state collusion, featuring the same handful of republican (maybe even unelected dissident republican) voices being platformed multiple times per week?
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 01:50:33 PM
As for asking on dissident republicans, in general working class inner city catholics are well represented politically. Working class loyalists are not, the DUP rile them up come election time to get votes but want nothing to do with them. I'm no fan of Bryson but his views are the views of loyalists around Belfast.
The DUP are not alone in riling up Loyalism. Nolan does so too. Like I said, the proposed deal on resurrecting the institutions in Feb '18 fell apart, and if you listened to the tone of Nolan's shows in the days in/around then, and the daily appearances of Jim Allister (sometimes on two Nolan programmes in the same day), then you couldn't but accept he played his part in the deal collapsing.
As for claiming Bryson represents the views of loyalism, then need I remind you what happened when he tried to stand for election in 2014? The deposit to stand as a candidate was £5,000, and he managed to fundraise a rand total of £165. He also stood for election in North Down and finished in 42nd place, with a total of 167 votes.
No doubt Nolan is desperately trying to peddle the notion that unionists are outraged about the protocol and that Jamie Bryson is their voice - but in reality, how many have been turning up at their "mass protests" where he speaks? Research last week showed that the population is exactly evenly split on the protocol - 47% of the population backing it and 47% opposing it. Has that been reflected in Nolan's coverage? Or, as I suspect, have the discussions around the protocol been framed almost exclusively in terms of how opposed unionism is to it?
Quote from: Snapchap on July 07, 2021, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 01:50:33 PM
Other parties are asked on regularly but have the sense to know they are better off avoiding Nolan. Just because you have Allister or Bryson on more than nationalist representatives does not show institutional sectarianism.
Sorry, but I just don't buy that for a second. Are you seriously suggesting that they cannot find ANYONE from the nationalist/republican community to be a regular contributor to his show? That he would have a number of nationalist/republican contributors on as routinely as Allister/Byrson, if he could only just find one, is just fanciful stuff.
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 01:50:33 PM
What it shows to me is that unionism/loyalism is in disarray and these are the people that what to talk about the current issues on the show. Brexit, the protocol, the DUP leadership, Bonfires/12th. Do any nationalists feel that strongly about the current position on any of these issues?
The Nolan show, and the problems with it, aren't a recent phenomenon. It has always, always, been a show presented by a unionist, from a unionist perspective, with invited guest overwhelmingly weighted towards the unionist side of the divide - and again the stats are there to back that up.
If you think he concentrates on unionist guests because you think nationalists are not concerned about something as huge as Brexit, then that's an odd enough claim, but besides that, how often do you hear Nolan devoting months unend to coverage of, for instance, state collusion, featuring the same handful of republican (maybe even unelected dissident republican) voices being platformed multiple times per week?
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 01:50:33 PM
As for asking on dissident republicans, in general working class inner city catholics are well represented politically. Working class loyalists are not, the DUP rile them up come election time to get votes but want nothing to do with them. I'm no fan of Bryson but his views are the views of loyalists around Belfast.
The DUP are not alone in riling up Loyalism. Nolan does so too. Like I said, the proposed deal on resurrecting the institutions in Feb '18 fell apart, and if you listened to the tone of Nolan's shows in the days in/around then, and the daily appearances of Jim Allister (sometimes on two Nolan programmes in the same day), then you couldn't but accept he played his part in the deal collapsing.
As for claiming Bryson represents the views of loyalism, then need I remind you what happened when he tried to stand for election in 2014? The deposit to stand as a candidate was £5,000, and he managed to fundraise a rand total of £165. He also stood for election in North Down and finished in 42nd place, with a total of 167 votes.
No doubt Nolan is desperately trying to peddle the notion that unionists are outraged about the protocol and that Jamie Bryson is their voice - but in reality, how many have been turning up at their "mass protests" where he speaks? Research last week showed that the population is exactly evenly split on the protocol - 47% of the population backing it and 47% opposing it. Has that been reflected in Nolan's coverage? Or, as I suspect, have the discussions around the protocol been framed almost exclusively in terms of how opposed unionism is to it?
This is stretching. Nolan is basing what he says in these instances off leaks from within the DUP and within Loyalism. RHI for example was driven completely by leaks with the DUP and Jonathan Bell in particular.
Nolan is a mouthpiece but he hasn't the power to topple governments. He's the conduit for the information and leaks that's all. And what's is more every party in NI uses him as such. How many times do you hear him say "the information given to the nolan show..." That's all from within the parties of government, especially the big two.
Quote from: trailer on July 07, 2021, 02:47:13 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on July 07, 2021, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 01:50:33 PM
Other parties are asked on regularly but have the sense to know they are better off avoiding Nolan. Just because you have Allister or Bryson on more than nationalist representatives does not show institutional sectarianism.
Sorry, but I just don't buy that for a second. Are you seriously suggesting that they cannot find ANYONE from the nationalist/republican community to be a regular contributor to his show? That he would have a number of nationalist/republican contributors on as routinely as Allister/Byrson, if he could only just find one, is just fanciful stuff.
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 01:50:33 PM
What it shows to me is that unionism/loyalism is in disarray and these are the people that what to talk about the current issues on the show. Brexit, the protocol, the DUP leadership, Bonfires/12th. Do any nationalists feel that strongly about the current position on any of these issues?
The Nolan show, and the problems with it, aren't a recent phenomenon. It has always, always, been a show presented by a unionist, from a unionist perspective, with invited guest overwhelmingly weighted towards the unionist side of the divide - and again the stats are there to back that up.
If you think he concentrates on unionist guests because you think nationalists are not concerned about something as huge as Brexit, then that's an odd enough claim, but besides that, how often do you hear Nolan devoting months unend to coverage of, for instance, state collusion, featuring the same handful of republican (maybe even unelected dissident republican) voices being platformed multiple times per week?
Quote from: Mario on July 07, 2021, 01:50:33 PM
As for asking on dissident republicans, in general working class inner city catholics are well represented politically. Working class loyalists are not, the DUP rile them up come election time to get votes but want nothing to do with them. I'm no fan of Bryson but his views are the views of loyalists around Belfast.
The DUP are not alone in riling up Loyalism. Nolan does so too. Like I said, the proposed deal on resurrecting the institutions in Feb '18 fell apart, and if you listened to the tone of Nolan's shows in the days in/around then, and the daily appearances of Jim Allister (sometimes on two Nolan programmes in the same day), then you couldn't but accept he played his part in the deal collapsing.
As for claiming Bryson represents the views of loyalism, then need I remind you what happened when he tried to stand for election in 2014? The deposit to stand as a candidate was £5,000, and he managed to fundraise a rand total of £165. He also stood for election in North Down and finished in 42nd place, with a total of 167 votes.
No doubt Nolan is desperately trying to peddle the notion that unionists are outraged about the protocol and that Jamie Bryson is their voice - but in reality, how many have been turning up at their "mass protests" where he speaks? Research last week showed that the population is exactly evenly split on the protocol - 47% of the population backing it and 47% opposing it. Has that been reflected in Nolan's coverage? Or, as I suspect, have the discussions around the protocol been framed almost exclusively in terms of how opposed unionism is to it?
This is stretching. Nolan is basing what he says in these instances off leaks from within the DUP and within Loyalism. RHI for example was driven completely by leaks with the DUP and Jonathan Bell in particular.
Nolan is a mouthpiece but he hasn't the power to topple governments. He's the conduit for the information and leaks that's all. And what's is more every party in NI uses him as such. How many times do you hear him say "the information given to the nolan show..." That's all from within the parties of government, especially the big two.
Of course he uses leaks, what "journalist" doesn't ffs. The point is
how he covers a story. Talkback covered the same story that week, but William Crawley was able to facilitate debate around the actual deal and around the significance of it for the institutions getting back up and running. Nolan's coverage of it was entirely framed as a story of unionists being "betrayed" and "sold out". Crawley also did not provide a repeated daily, and sometimes twice daily, platform to an extreme unionist political minnow (nor to an unelected unofficial mouthpiece for the UVF) for their reactions to the story.
Quote from: Snapchap on July 06, 2021, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland.
You know what's worse than Nolan's terminology? People from the south trying to appropriate the name Ireland as as the name of the 26 counties and the 26 counties only.
You being deliberately dumb or does it just come natural?? I wrote "And on an Irish passport is Ireland (Eire) with a nice graphic of the whole Island".
Quote from: Main Street on July 07, 2021, 03:51:10 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on July 06, 2021, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland.
You know what's worse than Nolan's terminology? People from the south trying to appropriate the name Ireland as as the name of the 26 counties and the 26 counties only.
You being deliberately dumb or does it just come natural?? I wrote "And on an Irish passport is Ireland (Eire) with a nice graphic of the whole Island".
More the quote highlighted in red that I was referring to. Nauseating how often some in the south refer to something being the case "both in Ireland and Northern Ireland".
Quote from: Snapchap on July 07, 2021, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 07, 2021, 03:51:10 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on July 06, 2021, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland.
You know what's worse than Nolan's terminology? People from the south trying to appropriate the name Ireland as as the name of the 26 counties and the 26 counties only.
You being deliberately dumb or does it just come natural?? I wrote "And on an Irish passport is Ireland (Eire) with a nice graphic of the whole Island".
More the quote highlighted in red that I was referring to. Nauseating how often some in the south refer to something being the case "both in Ireland and Northern Ireland".
Selective nausea, ignoring context, deliberately dumb. Now added to the ignore list.
Quote from: Main Street on July 07, 2021, 11:20:37 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on July 07, 2021, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 07, 2021, 03:51:10 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on July 06, 2021, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland.
You know what's worse than Nolan's terminology? People from the south trying to appropriate the name Ireland as as the name of the 26 counties and the 26 counties only.
You being deliberately dumb or does it just come natural?? I wrote "And on an Irish passport is Ireland (Eire) with a nice graphic of the whole Island".
More the quote highlighted in red that I was referring to. Nauseating how often some in the south refer to something being the case "both in Ireland and Northern Ireland".
Selective nausea, ignoring context, deliberately dumb. Now added to the ignore list.
Aw no. How will I ever cope?
nolan show is boring i cant listen to it anymore or talkback.
I dont know if this is right place to put this but did not want to start new thread do you think we will see violence on this weekend or 12th i think its going to be ok maybe minor things.
Quote from: Eire90 on July 08, 2021, 01:46:42 AM
I dont know if this is right place to put this but did not want to start new thread do you think we will see violence on this weekend or 12th i think its going to be ok maybe minor things.
a few wheelie bins might get the works, that's about it.
the main body of unionism isn't interested in that sort of thing and has distanced itself from the protocol protests up until now.
He 's having a go at Crapita this morning. Surely lots of Ulster's finest work for Capita?
They are a horrible horrible company.
Quote from: Snapchap on July 07, 2021, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 07, 2021, 03:51:10 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on July 06, 2021, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland.
You know what's worse than Nolan's terminology? People from the south trying to appropriate the name Ireland as as the name of the 26 counties and the 26 counties only.
You being deliberately dumb or does it just come natural?? I wrote "And on an Irish passport is Ireland (Eire) with a nice graphic of the whole Island".
More the quote highlighted in red that I was referring to. Nauseating how often some in the south refer to something being the case "both in Ireland and Northern Ireland".
They are the official names of both areas :-\
Quote from: Rossfan on July 08, 2021, 09:21:05 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on July 07, 2021, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 07, 2021, 03:51:10 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on July 06, 2021, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland.
You know what's worse than Nolan's terminology? People from the south trying to appropriate the name Ireland as as the name of the 26 counties and the 26 counties only.
You being deliberately dumb or does it just come natural?? I wrote "And on an Irish passport is Ireland (Eire) with a nice graphic of the whole Island".
More the quote highlighted in red that I was referring to. Nauseating how often some in the south refer to something being the case "both in Ireland and Northern Ireland".
They are the official names of both areas :-\
Fair enough so. If the six counties aren't in Ireland then clearly there was no such place as Ireland, and no such thing as an Irish person until 1921 then.
I enjoyed the bonfire one yesterday though. None of the lads could explain where the pallets were coming from, well at last where they got them legally ;)
Quote from: Snapchap on July 08, 2021, 09:46:14 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 08, 2021, 09:21:05 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on July 07, 2021, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 07, 2021, 03:51:10 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on July 06, 2021, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
What we got is Ireland and Northern Ireland.
You know what's worse than Nolan's terminology? People from the south trying to appropriate the name Ireland as as the name of the 26 counties and the 26 counties only.
You being deliberately dumb or does it just come natural?? I wrote "And on an Irish passport is Ireland (Eire) with a nice graphic of the whole Island".
More the quote highlighted in red that I was referring to. Nauseating how often some in the south refer to something being the case "both in Ireland and Northern Ireland".
They are the official names of both areas :-\
clearly there was no such place as Ireland, and no such thing as an Irish person until 1921 then.
Legally you are correct. We were all British then :'(
It was just a geographic thing like Yorkshire e.g.
Just listened to the show for the first time for the whole month of March and made a note of all the political contributors. I must say I was surprised by what I heard, I was expecting Allister and Bryson to be on every day, but they weren't.
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Has he turned over a new leaf after so many complaints? Is he following guidelines about balance that come into play in the runup to an election? He's been covering health for the last few days, and today he had two lads from the NI Ambulance Service on over an hour talking about their difficulties, plus stories from people who had lost loved ones while waiting for hours for an ambulance. It's actually very good radio.
I have never said a bad word about Nolan openly but my little school run partner(5 year old) for some reason keeps shouting "Nolan Farthead" every time he comes on. I was giving him a chance but I had to catch myself on when he said that, real moment of clarity
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 06, 2022, 09:50:47 PM
Just listened to the show for the first time for the whole month of March and made a note of all the political contributors. I must say I was surprised by what I heard, I was expecting Allister and Bryson to be on every day, but they weren't.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPhv-LsVkAUfojR?format=png&name=small)
Has he turned over a new leaf after so many complaints? Is he following guidelines about balance that come into play in the runup to an election? He's been covering health for the last few days, and today he had two lads from the NI Ambulance Service on over an hour talking about their difficulties, plus stories from people who had lost loved ones while waiting for hours for an ambulance. It's actually very good radio.
I'd say the heat was on him with people complaining that he got on The Bryson and Allister show every day.
Reverts back to the 'bread and butter' issues for a while.
I'd say check him out in a week or two, pre-election and see what the take is then.
Yup. It'll be interesting to hear what he's at after the election too.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 07, 2022, 05:26:41 AM
Yup. It'll be interesting to hear what he's at after the election too.
I'd predict his immediate post election sh*t stirring will be around the rise of Sinn Fein and an imminent border poll ... que Bryson and Allister wall to wall.
Quote from: balladmaker on April 07, 2022, 08:56:29 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 07, 2022, 05:26:41 AM
Yup. It'll be interesting to hear what he's at after the election too.
I'd predict his immediate post election sh*t stirring will be around the rise of Sinn Fein and an imminent border poll ... que Bryson and Allister wall to wall.
What's your definition of imminent as I don't see one anytime soon.
It would be foolish to have one my time soon and obviously O'Neill/sf now see that too.
The dup may be doing everything they can to forward a United ireland but it is a long way away yet!
Nolan taking flak for the distribution of his guests so probably toning it down for a bit. I imagine it'll be back as he thrives on division and there's no one like Bryson and allister for that.
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 07, 2022, 09:22:42 AM
It would be foolish to have one my time soon and obviously O'Neill/sf now see that too.
The dup may be doing everything they can to forward a United ireland but it is a long way away yet!
Nolan taking flak for the distribution of his guests so probably toning it down for a bit. I imagine it'll be back as he thrives on division and there's no one like Bryson and allister for that.
I'd say SF are playing it safe in this election. Playing the cost of living card as it's the No. 1 issue currently.
As well as that, if the mention border poll regularly, then the unionists will be pushing the line that SF, if they top poll will be pushing for it i.e. we must stop SF topping the poll.
Key thing here is the other parties are willing to work together to get things done.
Seems to be a general topic of 'they're as bad as each other' which is not true. DUP are the party that won't play ball. This line needs to be pushed more I think.
All this talk about a border poll. It's a bit far down the list of things that need to happen between now and a united Ireland. SF have been pushing for it because it gets the base excited. DUP push the fear of it because it energises their base. Both sides know that if it were to happen tomorrow there wouldn't be a majority for a UI. You'd be looking at 45% in favour at the most.
The most boring show in the country
A border poll in the near future will fail and set a UI ba k another 30 years. The big questions of health pensions etc need to be answered. Although the NHS is a shadow of what it used to be.
Quote from: snoopdog on April 08, 2022, 08:12:21 AM
A border poll in the near future will fail and set a UI ba k another 30 years. The big questions of health pensions etc need to be answered. Although the NHS is a shadow of what it used to be.
Can I ask why this would be the case? Genuinely, as I've seen it mentioned a few times. If a border poll was to show that there was a increasing desire for a UI, (And I think Brexit will have certainly increased this imo). Even if it failed, why would that be viewed negatively? I think if there is increasing will and we are moving towards a majority favouring it, then surely that will be the catalyst for more work to be done into the practicalities of such. Which in itself will start to help people understand how it would work.
Just to be clear here, I don't think it should be pushed now, nor is one needed for a few years. But I can't understand how, if a border poll demonstrated even a slightly increased desire for a UI, then why would it be viewed negatively?
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 07, 2022, 05:46:54 PM
All this talk about a border poll. It's a bit far down the list of things that need to happen between now and a united Ireland. SF have been pushing for it because it gets the base excited. DUP push the fear of it because it energises their base. Both sides know that if it were to happen tomorrow there wouldn't be a majority for a UI. You'd be looking at 45% in favour at the most.
Third time in as many days on this board that I've had to point out that SF are not asking for a border poll to be held at this stage. A poll down the line is inevitable. SF are merely asking for the planning for it to start, in particular from the southern government.
Quote from: Snapchap on April 08, 2022, 10:39:36 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 07, 2022, 05:46:54 PM
All this talk about a border poll. It's a bit far down the list of things that need to happen between now and a united Ireland. SF have been pushing for it because it gets the base excited. DUP push the fear of it because it energises their base. Both sides know that if it were to happen tomorrow there wouldn't be a majority for a UI. You'd be looking at 45% in favour at the most.
Third time in as many days on this board that I've had to point out that SF are not asking for a border poll to be held at this stage. A poll down the line is inevitable. SF are merely asking for the planning for it to start, in particular from the southern government.
What's your prediction Snapchat on the election?
A few weeks out obviously but what's your take on things currently?
SF do well to hold on the the 3rd seat in a couple of places? Any gains?
Quote from: marty34 on April 08, 2022, 10:44:51 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 08, 2022, 10:39:36 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 07, 2022, 05:46:54 PM
All this talk about a border poll. It's a bit far down the list of things that need to happen between now and a united Ireland. SF have been pushing for it because it gets the base excited. DUP push the fear of it because it energises their base. Both sides know that if it were to happen tomorrow there wouldn't be a majority for a UI. You'd be looking at 45% in favour at the most.
Third time in as many days on this board that I've had to point out that SF are not asking for a border poll to be held at this stage. A poll down the line is inevitable. SF are merely asking for the planning for it to start, in particular from the southern government.
What's your prediction Snapchat on the election?
A few weeks out obviously but what's your take on things currently?
SF do well to hold on the the 3rd seat in a couple of places? Any gains?
Confident enough that SF will come out as the largest party, but in all likelihood will have a reduced number of seats - their 2017 result was exceptionally good (many seemed to rally to them on the back of the RHI scandal and Martin McGuinness' illness). To expect them to reach the same heights again is probably unrealistic. Their loses could come in any number of constituencies:
- Their second seat in Foyle
- Their third in West Tyrone
- Their third seat in Fermanagh/South Tyrone
- Their sole seat in North Antrim
- Their third seat in Newry & Armagh
- They are also going to be under pressure to hold onto seats in North, South and West Belfast.
They won't lose seats in all, but could lose out in 3 or four. I'd guess they'll come in at 23/24 seats. I think everyone is expecting a very strong performance from Alliance. The battle for fourth place will no doubt be between UUP and SDLP, and Alliance transfers will have a big bearing on that. Doug Beattie is really trying to push his party closer to Alliance style unionism that to DUP style unionism, so it will be close. I think the SDLP probaly will get enough to finish fourth place, but they
could slide back into fifth. Which symbolically, would be some hit for them to take.
Ultimately though, I don't think Stormont will be back functioning in the event of SF being the largest party. The DUP are intent on wrecking the GFA. To expect them to work within it as a second placed party to SF - I just can't imagine it.
Quote from: Snapchap on April 08, 2022, 10:39:36 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 07, 2022, 05:46:54 PM
All this talk about a border poll. It's a bit far down the list of things that need to happen between now and a united Ireland. SF have been pushing for it because it gets the base excited. DUP push the fear of it because it energises their base. Both sides know that if it were to happen tomorrow there wouldn't be a majority for a UI. You'd be looking at 45% in favour at the most.
Third time in as many days on this board that I've had to point out that SF are not asking for a border poll to be held at this stage. A poll down the line is inevitable. SF are merely asking for the planning for it to start, in particular from the southern government.
Oh I'm aware that they've toned it down a bit in the last few days for election purposes, but as soon as the election's over you know as well as I do they'll be back to beating that drum again.
Quote from: Snapchap on April 08, 2022, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: marty34 on April 08, 2022, 10:44:51 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 08, 2022, 10:39:36 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 07, 2022, 05:46:54 PM
All this talk about a border poll. It's a bit far down the list of things that need to happen between now and a united Ireland. SF have been pushing for it because it gets the base excited. DUP push the fear of it because it energises their base. Both sides know that if it were to happen tomorrow there wouldn't be a majority for a UI. You'd be looking at 45% in favour at the most.
Third time in as many days on this board that I've had to point out that SF are not asking for a border poll to be held at this stage. A poll down the line is inevitable. SF are merely asking for the planning for it to start, in particular from the southern government.
What's your prediction Snapchat on the election?
A few weeks out obviously but what's your take on things currently?
SF do well to hold on the the 3rd seat in a couple of places? Any gains?
Confident enough that SF will come out as the largest party, but in all likelihood will have a reduced number of seats - their 2017 result was exceptionally good (many seemed to rally to them on the back of the RHI scandal and Martin McGuinness' illness). To expect them to reach the same heights again is probably unrealistic. Their loses could come in any number of constituencies:
- Their second seat in Foyle
- Their third in West Tyrone
- Their third seat in Fermanagh/South Tyrone
- Their sole seat in North Antrim
- Their third seat in Newry & Armagh
- They are also going to be under pressure to hold onto seats in North, South and West Belfast.
They won't lose seats in all, but could lose out in 3 or four. I'd guess they'll come in at 23/24 seats. I think everyone is expecting a very strong performance from Alliance. The battle for fourth place will no doubt be between UUP and SDLP, and Alliance transfers will have a big bearing on that. Doug Beattie is really trying to push his party closer to Alliance style unionism that to DUP style unionism, so it will be close. I think the SDLP probaly will get enough to finish fourth place, but they could slide back into fifth. Which symbolically, would be some hit for them to take.
Ultimately though, I don't think Stormont will be back functioning in the event of SF being the largest party. The DUP are intent on wrecking the GFA. To expect them to work within it as a second placed party to SF - I just can't imagine it.
It'll be interesting to see how Beattie's strategy works out. He might be looking to pick up Alliance transfers if there's an Alliance surge. The likes of Bryson branding the Alliance as "nasty" smacks of desperation and fear that APNI are onto something.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 08, 2022, 06:01:29 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 08, 2022, 10:39:36 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 07, 2022, 05:46:54 PM
All this talk about a border poll. It's a bit far down the list of things that need to happen between now and a united Ireland. SF have been pushing for it because it gets the base excited. DUP push the fear of it because it energises their base. Both sides know that if it were to happen tomorrow there wouldn't be a majority for a UI. You'd be looking at 45% in favour at the most.
Third time in as many days on this board that I've had to point out that SF are not asking for a border poll to be held at this stage. A poll down the line is inevitable. SF are merely asking for the planning for it to start, in particular from the southern government.
Oh I'm aware that they've toned it down a bit in the last few days for election purposes, but as soon as the election's over you know as well as I do they'll be back to beating that drum again.
In the last few days? They haven't at any stage been asking for a poll to happen imminently. What they have been saying in the last few days is precisely what they have been saying for several years now: start the planning now. What's happened in the last few days is the DUP have been trying to scaremongering unionism that SF are pushing for a border poll. Surely you aren't falling for tactics the DUP use to energise the Unionist base?
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 08, 2022, 06:06:56 PM
It'll be interesting to see how Beattie's strategy works out. He might be looking to pick up Alliance transfers if there's an Alliance surge. The likes of Bryson branding the Alliance as "nasty" smacks of desperation and fear that APNI are onto something.
That's precisely what he's doing. His problem though, is that he's trying to ride two horses. Appealing to Alliance voters by trying to appear moderate, but still pandering to the extremes of loyalism by refusing to commit to working alongside a SF First Minister and trying to out-DUP the DUP in terms of antipathy towards the Irish Language/Acht na Gaeilge. Noteworthy that within a week or two of him becoming party leader, he was at the side of the road matching balaclava clad UVF members take part in an anti-protocol band parade. "Moderate Doug" is an act.
Nolan is on Radio 5 Live now, Friday night half-ten. Pure greed.
Quote from: Sportacus on April 08, 2022, 10:18:00 PM
Nolan is on Radio 5 Live now, Friday night half-ten. Pure greed.
He's been on radio 5 live for years
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/the-nolan-show-dominates-the-north-s-airwaves-but-is-it-hard-hitting-or-just-hardline-1.4848316
That Nolan article is hidden behind a paywall, probably where Nolan should be hidden as well.
I see there's a bit of chatter about the Nolan Show over on the DUP thread. For the life of me I can't understand why any self-respecting nationalist would be happy to facilitate/reward the sheer sectarian bigotry facilitated and whipped up by Nolan/BBC ni by tuning in to listen to it in such numbers. I saw some interesting stats on twitter a few days ago:
At a rough count, and taking into account that PBP are designated as 'other' in the assembly, then you're looking at a breakdown of the most frequent guests being roughly:
Unionists: 22
Nationalists: 6 (3 of which are Alison Morris who is a journalist for a Unionist Newspaper)
Other: 4
With the most frequent participant being the leader and sole MLA of the smallest party in the assembly and most hardline unionist, Jim Allister.
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Another breakdown was provided for all guests in the same timeframe (below)
The breakdown for it?
Unionists: 43
Other: 23
Nationalists: 13
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I don't know how BBC get away with it, and again, why so many nationalists facilitate it by keeping his listenership figures so high.
Wouldn't listen to that shit at all.
Honestly don't think the GFA would have happened had Nolan been about at the time.
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Do ye 6 Cos folks pay TV Licences?
Quote from: Rossfan on March 02, 2023, 10:39:00 AM
Do ye 6 Cos folks pay TV Licences?
To fund that shite? Not a chance.
Rte not much better with the money that clown Tubirdy is on
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2023/07/05/news/holly_hamilton_step_in_for_nolan-3410446/
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1677644844653477889?s=46&t=zMI0pHqP8aYtYYerofczvg
Putting 2+2 together and getting 5
Be great if true lol.
Hes supposedly transferred shares/ownership of his company (possibly to mccleans bookmakers) which i dont understand a bit of. All a bit weird happening at same time...
Not a lot of love for Lineker online
Quote from: Mourne Red on July 08, 2023, 04:50:39 PM
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2023/07/05/news/holly_hamilton_step_in_for_nolan-3410446/
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1677644844653477889?s=46&t=zMI0pHqP8aYtYYerofczvg
Putting 2+2 together and getting 5
Seen him tweeting shite earlier so I don't think its him unfortunately
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2023, 05:25:17 PM
Not a lot of love for Lineker online
Why what's he done?
The amount of people desperate for it to be Lineker on social media
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 08, 2023, 05:12:38 PM
Be great if true lol.
Hes supposedly transferred shares/ownership of his company (possibly to mccleans bookmakers) which i dont understand a bit of. All a bit weird happening at same time...
Unfortunately, it's not. Will shock lot of people when it comes out in next few days, which it is bound to do.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 02, 2023, 10:39:00 AM
Do ye 6 Cos folks pay TV Licences?
Haven't paid it in years.
Quote from: red hander on July 08, 2023, 07:23:19 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 08, 2023, 05:12:38 PM
Be great if true lol.
Hes supposedly transferred shares/ownership of his company (possibly to mccleans bookmakers) which i dont understand a bit of. All a bit weird happening at same time...
Unfortunately, it's not. Will shock lot of people when it comes out in next few days, which it is bound to do.
Go on give us a clue.
I hope it is Sue Barker. That bitch knocked my ice cream out of my hand at Queens one day and just walked on.
huw Edwards the latest. Was pulled from one show at last minute
Quote from: Olly on July 08, 2023, 10:28:07 PM
I hope it is Sue Barker. That bitch knocked my ice cream out of my hand at Queens one day and just walked on.
Do you think that's why she was given the road on a question of sport?
No I was the only one who saw the ice cream incident and I can't even be sure it was her.
Quote from: markl121 on July 08, 2023, 10:39:43 PM
huw Edwards the latest. Was pulled from one show at last minute
Hearing it could be someone from these shores?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2023, 10:51:29 AM
Quote from: markl121 on July 08, 2023, 10:39:43 PM
huw Edwards the latest. Was pulled from one show at last minute
Hearing it could be someone from these shores?
Don't think there would be too many giving off if it does turn out to be 'the local' but the presenter mentioned above seems to be getting more of a mention online.
Any hints?
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 10, 2023, 11:07:49 AM
Any hints?
A real Huw done it this.. Ewan MacKenna has them named on twitter with some images I didn't want to see eating my Weetabix
I did see a photo myself which, had the queen not already been dead, would have killed her. But what about MR's suggestion that it could be some one from these shores?
https://twitter.com/cotupacs/status/1678319619310858241?t=pljJfj2vE19ASI-i8UM1dQ&s=19
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 10, 2023, 11:20:53 AM
I did see a photo myself which, had the queen not already been dead, would have killed her. But what about MR's suggestion that it could be some one from these shores?
The big man will be lurking online for defamation cases with his celebrity lawyer on speed dial
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So who is presenting BBC News at 10 tonight?
Somebody tracking him lol
This topic needs to be removed from this thread and given a thread of its own
The Irish News has really been going after Nolan for a while now and they've landed a big story today.
https://twitter.com/irish_news/status/1691315832750542848?t=yZmYr6LniwWJQoUuT073Cw&s=19
On a side note, the Irish News have been going after him for a while and is it any wonder? It is the biggest selling newspaper in the north but obviously because it is a nationalist one, is not invited on to the show at all (I posted the stats a page or two back). The most regular appearance by any newspaper columnist is Ben Lowry, editor of the Newsletter - a hard-core unionist/loyalist rag with a daily readership of less than a third that of the Irish News, followed by Alison Morris, security correspondent at the leading unionist newspaper (Belfast Telegraph).
Looks like Nolan is learning what should have been an obvious lesson: if you want to go out of your way to exclude/make an enemy of a newspaper, be sure you have no skeletons in the closet.
Was Alison Morris not a regular when she worked for the Irish News?
The issue I have with The Irish News is that they platform people like Jamie Bryson regularly.
To give people like him a platform is a joke.
Hence I don't buy or read it any more.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 15, 2023, 10:10:36 AM
Was Alison Morris not a regular when she worked for the Irish News?
Yeah she was
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 15, 2023, 10:17:28 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 15, 2023, 10:10:36 AM
Was Alison Morris not a regular when she worked for the Irish News?
Yeah she was
And who's been the regular from the Irish News in the last few years?
The behaviour by Nolan would get you fired in any respectable organisation that takes employee ethics seriously. BBCNI must be some cesspit to ignore that.
Jamie seems to be taking it very bad vaguely threatening some form of retaliation against the Irish News for reporting on his big mate. Or maybe he is just touting himself to offer his legal services to Nolan. Nobody should be surprised by any of these revelations.
Quote from: yellowcard on August 15, 2023, 11:55:32 AM
Jamie seems to be taking it very bad vaguely threatening some form of retaliation against the Irish News for reporting on his big mate. Or maybe he is just touting himself to offer his legal services to Nolan. Nobody should be surprised by any of these revelations.
Not sure there was anything too vague in the threats, he basically outlined them from what I saw this morning.
He should probably rethink this one, I'm not sure he really wants someone doing proper investigative journalism into him personally. But I suppose if Nolan goes, who else will give him a platform.
Hopefully it could be the end of Nolan and consequently Bryson. That joke is long over. I would have my doubts though.
Also Nolan has plenty of money for a proper legal team.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 15, 2023, 12:21:06 PM
Hopefully it could be the end of Nolan and consequently Bryson. That joke is long over. I would have my doubts though.
Also Nolan has plenty of money for a proper legal team.
Would he not just say it was for research purposes, but in hindsight it was inappropriate and I'm sorry if this caused offence?
He'll get out of it somehow I suspect.
When I first saw it I thought he was sending images of himself, which would have finished him
This will be put down to "playful banter"
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 15, 2023, 12:33:04 PM
When I first saw it I thought he was sending images of himself, which would have finished him
He tried, but the size of the attachment was too big.
Quote from: Snapchap on August 15, 2023, 08:29:31 AM
The Irish News has really been going after Nolan for a while now and they've landed a big story today.
https://twitter.com/irish_news/status/1691315832750542848?t=yZmYr6LniwWJQoUuT073Cw&s=19
On a side note, the Irish News have been going after him for a while and is it any wonder? It is the biggest selling newspaper in the north but obviously because it is a nationalist one, is not invited on to the show at all (I posted the stats a page or two back). The most regular appearance by any newspaper columnist is Ben Lowry, editor of the Newsletter - a hard-core unionist/loyalist rag with a daily readership of less than a third that of the Irish News, followed by Alison Morris, security correspondent at the leading unionist newspaper (Belfast Telegraph).
Looks like Nolan is learning what should have been an obvious lesson: if you want to go out of your way to exclude/make an enemy of a newspaper, be sure you have no skeletons in the closet.
I've been wondering for a while what the Irish News was playing at, Nolan's financial affairs seemed like a big pile of so what to me.
Reading that article it sounds like a lot of banter and maybe its in bad taste and shouldnt be in the workplace but I dont think its the big story the Irish News thinks it is. And I cant stand the guy.
Quote from: Itchy on August 15, 2023, 01:46:25 PM
Reading that article it sounds like a lot of banter and maybe its in bad taste and shouldnt be in the workplace but I dont think its the big story the Irish News thinks it is. And I cant stand the guy.
I thought the same myself, as I said above, if it's photos of himself, totally different
Prior to covid there was a super injunction granted to a known figure within our society. It was rumoured to be in relation to explicit paid activities with young men in England whom were all of legal age. It was passed through on a Saturday evening and was the talk of the Bar Library at the time...
Moving back to Nolan, the Irish News are fishing here. Not a huge amount to any of it. However it almost feels like they are trying to encourage people to come forward if they have anything to add on Nolan. Interesting to see how the next few days go.
Quote from: Itchy on August 15, 2023, 01:46:25 PM
Reading that article it sounds like a lot of banter and maybe its in bad taste and shouldnt be in the workplace but I dont think its the big story the Irish News thinks it is. And I cant stand the guy.
Surely the story is that he hasn't been fired? In what other organisation would you get away with sending unsolicited photos of a naked sex offender to your colleagues and sending them other messages calling a fellow member of staff a "devious cnut"? Particularly one funded by the taxpayer?
Indeed how many would expect to have a job in the morning if they used the tactics of threatening to send more explicit images if they didn't get their way. Should be an immediate firing offense. Would love to know who has an employer that thinks that's fine.
Quote from: Snapchap on August 15, 2023, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 15, 2023, 01:46:25 PM
Reading that article it sounds like a lot of banter and maybe its in bad taste and shouldnt be in the workplace but I dont think its the big story the Irish News thinks it is. And I cant stand the guy.
Surely the story is that he hasn't been fired? In what other organisation would you get away with sending unsolicited photos of a naked sex offender to your colleagues and sending them other messages calling a fellow member of staff a "devious cnut"? Particularly one funded by the taxpayer?
He wasn't a convicted sex offender at that time (and his offence was revenge porn)
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 15, 2023, 02:05:46 PM
The sex offender part is entirely irrelevant.
There is little to nothing in this story.
As was stated above, this is the drip drip affect the IN are going for. It's pretty much a non-story other than the fact that the nature of is pretty offensive for most people so they will be hoping off the back of this that someone comes forward with something a little more substantial.
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 15, 2023, 02:02:16 PM
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Quote from: Itchy on August 15, 2023, 01:46:25 PM
Reading that article it sounds like a lot of banter and maybe its in bad taste and shouldnt be in the workplace but I dont think its the big story the Irish News thinks it is. And I cant stand the guy.
Surely the story is that he hasn't been fired? In what other organisation would you get away with sending unsolicited photos of a naked sex offender to your colleagues and sending them other messages calling a fellow member of staff a "devious cnut"? Particularly one funded by the taxpayer?
He wasn't a convicted sex offender at that time (and his offence was revenge porn)
Would it have preduiced the case possibly?
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 15, 2023, 02:02:16 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on August 15, 2023, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 15, 2023, 01:46:25 PM
Reading that article it sounds like a lot of banter and maybe its in bad taste and shouldnt be in the workplace but I dont think its the big story the Irish News thinks it is. And I cant stand the guy.
Surely the story is that he hasn't been fired? In what other organisation would you get away with sending unsolicited photos of a naked sex offender to your colleagues and sending them other messages calling a fellow member of staff a "devious cnut"? Particularly one funded by the taxpayer?
He wasn't a convicted sex offender at that time (and his offence was revenge porn)
Oh so that's ok then? Not a firing offence in any other organisation then to send unsolicited photos of male genitals to your colleagues?
Quote from: Snapchap on August 15, 2023, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 15, 2023, 01:46:25 PM
Reading that article it sounds like a lot of banter and maybe its in bad taste and shouldnt be in the workplace but I dont think its the big story the Irish News thinks it is. And I cant stand the guy.
Surely the story is that he hasn't been fired? In what other organisation would you get away with sending unsolicited photos of a naked sex offender to your colleagues and sending them other messages calling a fellow member of staff a "devious cnut"? Particularly one funded by the taxpayer?
You'd surprised what you can get away with in the workplace. Its not that easy to fire someone. If either of those things happened in the multinational I work in I am not so sure you would get fired, you'd certainly get a formal warning though.
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 15, 2023, 01:49:15 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 15, 2023, 01:46:25 PM
Reading that article it sounds like a lot of banter and maybe its in bad taste and shouldnt be in the workplace but I dont think its the big story the Irish News thinks it is. And I cant stand the guy.
I thought the same myself, as I said above, if it's photos of himself, totally different
Where do you work when a manager sends out unsolicited dick pics of "celebrities" and that's OK?
Quote from: johnnycool on August 15, 2023, 03:35:22 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 15, 2023, 01:49:15 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 15, 2023, 01:46:25 PM
Reading that article it sounds like a lot of banter and maybe its in bad taste and shouldnt be in the workplace but I dont think its the big story the Irish News thinks it is. And I cant stand the guy.
I thought the same myself, as I said above, if it's photos of himself, totally different
Where do you work when a manager sends out unsolicited dick pics of "celebrities" and that's OK?
Dont see him saying it was "ok" and I certainly didnt say that. I am just saying it may not result in sacking as sacking someone is not easy and I have sacked a few so I know.
Quote from: Itchy on August 15, 2023, 03:59:15 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 15, 2023, 03:35:22 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 15, 2023, 01:49:15 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 15, 2023, 01:46:25 PM
Reading that article it sounds like a lot of banter and maybe its in bad taste and shouldnt be in the workplace but I dont think its the big story the Irish News thinks it is. And I cant stand the guy.
I thought the same myself, as I said above, if it's photos of himself, totally different
Where do you work when a manager sends out unsolicited dick pics of "celebrities" and that's OK?
Dont see him saying it was "ok" and I certainly didnt say that. I am just saying it may not result in sacking as sacking someone is not easy and I have sacked a few so I know.
Didn't you describe it as just "a lot of banter"? If you had a daughter worked for a company, would you call it banter if her manager began sending her unsolicited photos of male genitalia?
The irony is that this is the sort of stuff that Nolan himself excels and thrives on. He has made a career as a sectarian shock jock digging up whatever dirt he can, so I doubt too many will have any sympathy. Plus I'd say there is more to come. That is despite some of his supporters already portraying him as some kind of working class hero when the reality is that he has used his status and the power of his wallet to litigate his way out of trouble before. Claiming he is fighting against the elite is some mental gymnastics, his only interest is self interest.
The question I always wonder with Nolan(and I wouldn't listen to it if you paid me)... Would there be a peace process if he was on the air at the time?
Quote from: Snapchap on August 15, 2023, 08:29:31 AM
The Irish News has really been going after Nolan for a while now and they've landed a big story today.
https://twitter.com/irish_news/status/1691315832750542848?t=yZmYr6LniwWJQoUuT073Cw&s=19
On a side note, the Irish News have been going after him for a while and is it any wonder? It is the biggest selling newspaper in the north but obviously because it is a nationalist one, is not invited on to the show at all (I posted the stats a page or two back). The most regular appearance by any newspaper columnist is Ben Lowry, editor of the Newsletter - a hard-core unionist/loyalist rag with a daily readership of less than a third that of the Irish News, followed by Alison Morris, security correspondent at the leading unionist newspaper (Belfast Telegraph).
Looks like Nolan is learning what should have been an obvious lesson: if you want to go out of your way to exclude/make an enemy of a newspaper, be sure you have no skeletons in the closet.
Whenever fat Nolan wants representation from nationalists, he wheels in.... Malachi O'Doherty. Yes, Malachi, who I'm convinced wants an MBE and a seat in the house of Lords.
Peadar Toibin is a regular contributor. You can't really blame Nolan for a lack of fenians if fenians boycott the show.
I'd imagine there is more to come around this, and today was just the IN casting their net. Popcorn at the ready.
The Donaghadee melt down is great reading :)
Quote from: pbat on August 15, 2023, 09:44:46 PM
The Donaghadee melt down is great reading :)
He's now deflecting on this story after complaining that the Irish News were deflecting from the Up the Ra chants story on Nolan on Monday. I'd say Jamie has opened a can of worms. Theres plenty of skeletons in his closet
Quote from: Nanderson on August 15, 2023, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: pbat on August 15, 2023, 09:44:46 PM
The Donaghadee melt down is great reading :)
He's now deflecting on this story after complaining that the Irish News were deflecting from the Up the Ra chants story on Nolan on Monday. I'd say Jamie has opened a can of worms. Theres plenty of skeletons in his closet
Interesting few weeks ahead, depending on how this story evolves. Mr Bryson could come under pretty intense scrutiny- running with the hare and hunting with the hounds could see all kinds of disclosures.
I was resigned to at least a fortnight on Féile. The gap between tweets is a long time in Jamie's politics
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 15, 2023, 08:29:33 PM
Peadar Toibin is a regular contributor. You can't really blame Nolan for a lack of fenians if fenians boycott the show.
The question is why do they boycott it?
First SF and now the SDLP. Better off without Nolan. It's of no benefit to nationalist parties.
For a long time it was really the Bryson and Allister Show with Nolan getting the odd chance to speak.
Could you imagine Saoradh getting as much air time as them two...or more to the point Nolan allowing Saoradh to be on the show?
I think the whole thing turned for Nolan when people starting to do up graphs etc. of how often Allister etc. was on the show every month.
Tim McKane was the guy who opened the can of worms couple of years back.
The stats of contributors look bad for Nolan. He is a good interviewer but can't hide his bias.
GB News recruiters are on the phone.
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2023, 10:21:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 15, 2023, 08:29:33 PM
Peadar Toibin is a regular contributor. You can't really blame Nolan for a lack of fenians if fenians boycott the show.
The question is why do they boycott it?
First SF and now the SDLP. Better off without Nolan. It's of no benefit to nationalist parties.
For a long time it was really the Bryson and Allister Show with Nolan getting the odd chance to speak.
Could you imagine Saoradh getting as much air time as them two...or more to the point Nolan allowing Saoradh to be on the show?
I think the whole thing turned for Nolan when people starting to do up graphs etc. of how often Allister etc. was on the show every month.
;D Funny , and not far off the truth
Nolan show is the TV version of the newsletter. It's a shit stirring show with a shit stirring host, and the north would be a better place without it on the air
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2023, 10:21:05 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 15, 2023, 08:29:33 PM
Peadar Toibin is a regular contributor. You can't really blame Nolan for a lack of fenians if fenians boycott the show.
The question is why do they boycott it?
First SF and now the SDLP. Better off without Nolan. It's of no benefit to nationalist parties.
SF are in the huff about his coverage of the Bobby Storey funeral during the pandemic. The SDLP are in the huff about Matthew O'Toole being cut off in mid-sentence when he said something about David Campbell being a terrorist IIRC.
TBH the number of appearances on the show doesn't seem to be any big predictor of electoral success. SF topped the poll without having been on the show for years. The UUP gets a bigger say than the DUP but that doesn't seem to convert to election results either. I'd question how much influence the "biggest show in the country" really has.
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2023, 10:21:05 PM
For a long time it was really the Bryson and Allister Show with Nolan getting the odd chance to speak.
Could you imagine Saoradh getting as much air time as them two...or more to the point Nolan allowing Saoradh to be on the show?
I think the whole thing turned for Nolan when people starting to do up graphs etc. of how often Allister etc. was on the show every month.
I'm not sure if that's true. Any time I surveyed the show, Allister and Bryson were not really on that much. There could be something of a Mandela Effect going on. Allister and Bryson get on and say outrage-inducing stuff ("the UVF were counter-terrorists" for example) that gets plenty of talk going on social media that amplifies the message. It makes it seem like they're on more than they really are because people are still talking about them days after they did their troll piece on the air.
I've listened to Talkback quite a few times and I've never heard a Sin Féin rep contributing in any shape or form.
Is it just the Nolan show being boycotted by SF?
Haven't listened to Talkback since the days of Dunseith. Is it any good nowadays?
crawley pretends to be this goody two shoes guy but he comes across as smug and he just rehashes the same topics over and over he must talk about a united ireland once a week thank god i dont listen to it anymore its just an extension of nolan really.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 15, 2023, 08:29:33 PM
Peadar Toibin is a regular contributor. You can't really blame Nolan for a lack of fenians if fenians boycott the show.
Not according to the full breakdown of stats posted by yourself on page 18 of this thread. According to that breakdown, he didn't appear once in the month of June. He also didn't appear throughout February when a other breakdown of guests was posted by myself on page 17 of the thread.
According to the breakdown for February, the breakdown of guests was:
Unionists: 22Nationalists: 6 (3 of which are Alison Morris who is a journalist for a Unionist Newspaper)
Other: 4Thats not just politicians. Thats politicians, journalists, commentators etc. Your stats from June seem somewhat similar a scenario, if not worse. Does that sound balanced to you?
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 15, 2023, 08:29:33 PM
SF are in the huff about his coverage of the Bobby Storey funeral during the pandemic. The SDLP are in the huff about Matthew O'Toole being cut off in mid-sentence when he said something about David Campbell being a terrorist IIRC.
SF's boycott of the show predates the Bobby Storey funeral by several years.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 15, 2023, 08:29:33 PM
TBH the number of appearances on the show doesn't seem to be any big predictor of electoral success. SF topped the poll without having been on the show for years. The UUP gets a bigger say than the DUP but that doesn't seem to convert to election results either. I'd question how much influence the "biggest show in the country" really has.
Undeniable that he does carry an influence within unionism and particularly within the DUP due to his persistent platforming of Jim Allister and Bryson over the years. In recent years, Bryson has been dictating DUP policy to them and the only reason he has such influence is because Nolan gave him a platform and single handedly made him a household name. Can you name any other journalist or news outlet who gives him the time of day? As a textbook example of the influence his show has, I know I posted this before, but what typifies Nolan for me was his antics in February 2018 when stormont was collapsed, and talks were at an advanced stage aimed at reinstating the assembly. He spent months and months criticising politicians for not compromising to get the institutions back until lo and behold, the first day news leaked that a compromise may have been reached, Nolan was all over it the next morning like a rash, whipping unionism into an absolute frenzy over the news that the DUP had made an apparent compromise on an Irish Language Act. In the space of the ten days in/around that time in February '18, Nolan had Jim Allister on as a guest on his radio/tv shows on the 9th, 11th, 12th, on BOTH his radio and TV shows on 14th, on 15th and the 19th. That's seven times in ten shows. Unionism was whipped into a fury and the DUP were forced to pull the rug from under the deal.
Sam McBride won't be happy. He's a regular side kick to Nolan but has a reputation as a proper investigative journalist. Wonder will he pull back a bit.
Is Nolan just best ignored?
yes its the same boring northern ireland politics everyday.
Snapchap Bryson gets more time than he should in the Irish news.
I would agree with your post. Without Nolan Bryson wouldn't be a thing. Neither are a positive influence on unionism and I refer to my previous point that I am not sure there would be a peace process if Nolan was a thing at the time.
He is best ignored yes but like a load of tabloid rags you can ignore them but the problem is the people, of which there are many, who don't.
Nolans type of broadcasting needs to be confined to the bin if this place wants to move forward.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2023, 09:05:32 AM
Is Nolan just best ignored?
I have been doing it all my life, some just want to be permanently offended though
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 09:53:45 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2023, 09:05:32 AM
Is Nolan just best ignored?
I have been doing it all my life, some just want to be permanently offended though
The short answer is yes and if he was on a commercial radio station then he could fire away.
The problem is he's on a public funded radio station which I pay towards and evidently is unaccountable to anyone in terms of the shows content and behaviour.
He's not a journalist BTW and his shows are deemed light entertainment so he doesn't have to meet any "balance" requirements.
Looking back at clips of the show he had on with this lad Bear was absolute car crash homo-erotic drivel, surely someone in the production team should have shouted stop!
UK papers now picking up this story, it's in the Daily Mail and Telegraph so they see this as a good opportunity to get a dig at the BBC.
Mr Smith in Belfast won't be able to cover the big lads arse on this for much longer.
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 09:53:45 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2023, 09:05:32 AM
Is Nolan just best ignored?
I have been doing it all my life, some just want to be permanently offended though
In any other line of work would it be acceptable behaviour to get on like he supposedly has?
Quote from: Eire90 on August 16, 2023, 06:43:57 AM
crawley pretends to be this goody two shoes guy but he comes across as smug and he just rehashes the same topics over and over he must talk about a united ireland once a week thank god i dont listen to it anymore its just an extension of nolan really.
The Nolan Show is a poor man's Talkback.
Quote from: Snapchap on August 16, 2023, 08:12:27 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 15, 2023, 08:29:33 PM
Peadar Toibin is a regular contributor. You can't really blame Nolan for a lack of fenians if fenians boycott the show.
Not according to the full breakdown of stats posted by yourself on page 18 of this thread. According to that breakdown, he didn't appear once in the month of June. He also didn't appear throughout February when a other breakdown of guests was posted by myself on page 17 of the thread.
According to the breakdown for February, the breakdown of guests was:
Unionists: 22
Nationalists: 6 (3 of which are Alison Morris who is a journalist for a Unionist Newspaper)
Other: 4
Thats not just politicians. Thats politicians, journalists, commentators etc. Your stats from June seem somewhat similar a scenario, if not worse. Does that sound balanced to you?
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 15, 2023, 08:29:33 PM
SF are in the huff about his coverage of the Bobby Storey funeral during the pandemic. The SDLP are in the huff about Matthew O'Toole being cut off in mid-sentence when he said something about David Campbell being a terrorist IIRC.
SF's boycott of the show predates the Bobby Storey funeral by several years.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 15, 2023, 08:29:33 PM
TBH the number of appearances on the show doesn't seem to be any big predictor of electoral success. SF topped the poll without having been on the show for years. The UUP gets a bigger say than the DUP but that doesn't seem to convert to election results either. I'd question how much influence the "biggest show in the country" really has.
Undeniable that he does carry an influence within unionism and particularly within the DUP due to his persistent platforming of Jim Allister and Bryson over the years. In recent years, Bryson has been dictating DUP policy to them and the only reason he has such influence is because Nolan gave him a platform and single handedly made him a household name. Can you name any other journalist or news outlet who gives him the time of day? As a textbook example of the influence his show has, I know I posted this before, but what typifies Nolan for me was his antics in February 2018 when stormont was collapsed, and talks were at an advanced stage aimed at reinstating the assembly. He spent months and months criticising politicians for not compromising to get the institutions back until lo and behold, the first day news leaked that a compromise may have been reached, Nolan was all over it the next morning like a rash, whipping unionism into an absolute frenzy over the news that the DUP had made an apparent compromise on an Irish Language Act. In the space of the ten days in/around that time in February '18, Nolan had Jim Allister on as a guest on his radio/tv shows on the 9th, 11th, 12th, on BOTH his radio and TV shows on 14th, on 15th and the 19th. That's seven times in ten shows. Unionism was whipped into a fury and the DUP were forced to pull the rug from under the deal.
Very valid analysis there Snapchat.
Quote from: johnnycool on August 16, 2023, 10:42:38 AM
UK papers now picking up this story, it's in the Daily Mail and Telegraph so they see this as a good opportunity to get a dig at the BBC.
Mr Smith in Belfast won't be able to cover the big lads arse on this for much longer.
His mother the anti GAA, anti Irish language TUV politician Anne Smyth. He should be the first to go for covering it up, nothing to see here.
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 11:48:04 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on August 16, 2023, 08:12:27 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 15, 2023, 08:29:33 PM
Peadar Toibin is a regular contributor. You can't really blame Nolan for a lack of fenians if fenians boycott the show.
Not according to the full breakdown of stats posted by yourself on page 18 of this thread. According to that breakdown, he didn't appear once in the month of June. He also didn't appear throughout February when a other breakdown of guests was posted by myself on page 17 of the thread.
According to the breakdown for February, the breakdown of guests was:
Unionists: 22
Nationalists: 6 (3 of which are Alison Morris who is a journalist for a Unionist Newspaper)
Other: 4
Thats not just politicians. Thats politicians, journalists, commentators etc. Your stats from June seem somewhat similar a scenario, if not worse. Does that sound balanced to you?
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 15, 2023, 08:29:33 PM
SF are in the huff about his coverage of the Bobby Storey funeral during the pandemic. The SDLP are in the huff about Matthew O'Toole being cut off in mid-sentence when he said something about David Campbell being a terrorist IIRC.
SF's boycott of the show predates the Bobby Storey funeral by several years.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 15, 2023, 08:29:33 PM
TBH the number of appearances on the show doesn't seem to be any big predictor of electoral success. SF topped the poll without having been on the show for years. The UUP gets a bigger say than the DUP but that doesn't seem to convert to election results either. I'd question how much influence the "biggest show in the country" really has.
Undeniable that he does carry an influence within unionism and particularly within the DUP due to his persistent platforming of Jim Allister and Bryson over the years. In recent years, Bryson has been dictating DUP policy to them and the only reason he has such influence is because Nolan gave him a platform and single handedly made him a household name. Can you name any other journalist or news outlet who gives him the time of day? As a textbook example of the influence his show has, I know I posted this before, but what typifies Nolan for me was his antics in February 2018 when stormont was collapsed, and talks were at an advanced stage aimed at reinstating the assembly. He spent months and months criticising politicians for not compromising to get the institutions back until lo and behold, the first day news leaked that a compromise may have been reached, Nolan was all over it the next morning like a rash, whipping unionism into an absolute frenzy over the news that the DUP had made an apparent compromise on an Irish Language Act. In the space of the ten days in/around that time in February '18, Nolan had Jim Allister on as a guest on his radio/tv shows on the 9th, 11th, 12th, on BOTH his radio and TV shows on 14th, on 15th and the 19th. That's seven times in ten shows. Unionism was whipped into a fury and the DUP were forced to pull the rug from under the deal.
Very valid analysis there Snapchat.
+1 Never listen to the bigoted mess, switch over straight away if big trunks comes on the radio/TV. But my attitude is don't interrupt your enemy when they're f**king up. All this just strengthens opposition to hardcore unionism from moderates. Nolan will probably see this storm out as he's protected by local BBC management, but never fear, he'll fall in the end, his hubris will do for him
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2023, 09:05:32 AM
Is Nolan just best ignored?
He is indeed. Can be hard at times tho. I've him, and others, blocked on social media but you keep seeing screenshots of stuff.
Remember when he had Ó'Donnghaile on during the "curry my yoghurt" debacle and he repeatedly said it in his face asking why he didn't find it funny.
Problem for him now is that the Anti - BBC media across the water have now got a hold of this, with him being rather high profile on 5 Live as well.
This no longer is a local spat that can be ignored for the BBC, so I would expect more and more to come out over the next few days.
Martina Anderson wants to see the messages in relation to her.....
https://twitter.com/OMuirighSols/status/1691781485135638878?s=20 (https://twitter.com/OMuirighSols/status/1691781485135638878?s=20)
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 09:53:45 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2023, 09:05:32 AM
Is Nolan just best ignored?
I have been doing it all my life, some just want to be permanently offended though
Haven't listened to it in years. Since 2018 actually, when the Allister debacle I referenced above happened.
Does Nolan offend me? Not in the slightest. Do I believe his content is toxic and sectarian? Absolutely. Doesnt toxic, sectarian output from bbcni deserve to be called out as often as possible? Believe it or not, many of Nolans critics are just motivated by a desire to see better/fairer standards from the public broadcaster and maybe deserve better than to be arrogantly dismissed as just a "permantly offended" bunch of snowflakes.
I vividly recall in 2018 that the bbc had a full week of coverage (across both TV and radio) marking the 25th anniversary of the Shankill Bomb. This included a feature every day on Nolans radio show as well as a documentary about the bombing on TV, produced and hosted by Nolan. Not one single reference, either on BBC TV or Nolans radio show throughout all of the following week about the 25th Anniversary of the UVFs Greeysteel 'Trick or Treat' massacre. Should it not be perfectly rational, not to mention important, to speak out about such a sectarian imbalance from Nolan/bbcni? Or would criticising it just mark one down as a "permantly offended" snowflake?
He'd be perfect for GBNews.
I'd say that will be his next employer for sure!
Quote from: NAG1 on August 16, 2023, 01:28:00 PM
Problem for him now is that the Anti - BBC media across the water have now got a hold of this, with him being rather high profile on 5 Live as well.
This no longer is a local spat that can be ignored for the BBC, so I would expect more and more to come out over the next few days.
A lot of people in Britain will be wondering who is this guy who is the 5th highest paid in the BBC and they have never heard of him, other than these articles about sending pictures of cocks.
If you work for a public body and get paid hundreds of thousands then you do have to maintain a certain demeanour.
Quote from: general_lee on August 16, 2023, 02:51:46 PM
He'd be perfect for GBNews.
Exactly. Out of some bizarre need for self inflicting pain(*) I would listen to GB News and Talk Radio both of which fill the air with right wing propaganda and blame everything on lefty lawyers. They believe that Trump is innocent and that Liz Truss was right and just needed more time.
* I also follow Armagh.
is he a right winger
if nolan goes will they shift crawley to mornings and bring someone in for talkback or will they replace nolan with another shock jock
There only so much things you can talk about in northern ireland anyway before it turns into repetitive and boring you can only talk about Stormont so many times.
Quote from: Eire90 on August 17, 2023, 09:06:00 AM
if nolan goes will they shift crawley to mornings and bring someone in for talkback or will they replace nolan with another shock jock
Hugo Duncan?
Be surprised if he goes.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 17, 2023, 09:18:44 AM
Be surprised if he goes.
If this was entirely a BBC NI issue then yes I'd have agreed, but with the UK media reporting on it then I think Adam Smith has quite a bit of explaining to do on the back of the Huw Edwards saga.
turned on nolan there just to see what they were talking about they were talking about troubles so i turned it back off after 2 seconds what a bore.
Quote from: johnnycool on August 17, 2023, 09:27:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 17, 2023, 09:18:44 AM
Be surprised if he goes.
If this was entirely a BBC NI issue then yes I'd have agreed, but with the UK media reporting on it then I think Adam Smith has quite a bit of explaining to do on the back of the Huw Edwards saga.
I hope you're right. If he were to go then hopefully it would be the end of binlid. Been a long time coming.
Nolan show needs to go ... we've no need for a platform to give a voice to every bin lid in the country.
Needs to go. Every show and presenter has a cycle, and he's had 20 years. Just the same old repetitive shite with a platform for extremists and mindless morons who contribute nothing. Can't see anything positive he's adding to this place. His tv show is cringeworthy. Wonder what people from outside of here would make of it.
Quote from: Armamike on August 17, 2023, 02:33:13 PM
Needs to go. Every show and presenter has a cycle, and he's had 20 years. Just the same old repetitive shite with a platform for extremists and mindless morons who contribute nothing. Can't see anything positive he's adding to this place. His tv show is cringeworthy. Wonder what people from outside of here would make of it.
I must admit I do listen to the radio show every now again if he's putting his finger on some bullshit inefficiency in government which we are masters at. But the tv show is literally the pits - wouldn't watch ten seconds of it.
Nolan has spoken:
https://twitter.com/StephenNolan/status/1692176761789039002?t=i-kLpQ3cEz-mQ9rpIytSfA&s=19
Any suggestion that I had any knowledge whatsoever of , or participation in , the planting of BBC staff into a Nolan audience is categorically untrue .
I have instructed Paul Tweed my lawyer to take appropriate legal action as soon as possible. @Paul_Tweed
Talk about careful wording. No denial that there were plants in the audience. Threatening legal action on anyone who suggests there were BBC staff planted but no reference to staff from his own production company. And most telling, no denial that he sent unsolicited photos of male genitalia to his staff.
From Sam McBride
The Irish News seems to have quietly dropped one of its most serious allegations against Stephen Nolan - that the public were misled by junior staff being put in the audience "to raise their hands & make a controversial point". That claim has now vanished from the website story.
While there's no comparison (apart from both being very well and over paid), I still think it highly shocking that Turbridy gets dropped by RTE over the pay scandal and Nolan kept his job at BBC despite sending unsolicited, explicit images to staff.
I'm no fan of Nolan but I am of the Nolans. I'm in the mood for dancing must be one of the best alternative songs in the last 50 years.
Quote from: weareros on August 17, 2023, 11:11:44 PM
While there's no comparison (apart from both being very well and over paid), I still think it highly shocking that Turbridy gets dropped by RTE over the pay scandal and Nolan kept his job at BBC despite sending unsolicited, explicit images to staff.
Afaic Nolan was doing a spoof about a potential (controversial?) interviewee, nobody in their right mind could interpret that image of obese Nolan in braces as explicit (implied sexually explicit). For sure Nolan is an ugly biased shock jock who gives unlimited platform to DUP et al primevalists. However that picture he sent out might be a lot of things but the last thing it is, is him sending a sexually explicit image of himself to the staff or even having the remote intention to do so.
The obese Nolan pics aren't the ones he's in bother for
Quote from: Main Street on August 18, 2023, 12:06:12 AM
Quote from: weareros on August 17, 2023, 11:11:44 PM
While there's no comparison (apart from both being very well and over paid), I still think it highly shocking that Turbridy gets dropped by RTE over the pay scandal and Nolan kept his job at BBC despite sending unsolicited, explicit images to staff.
Afaic Nolan was doing a spoof about a potential (controversial?) interviewee, nobody in their right mind could interpret that image of obese Nolan in braces as explicit (implied sexually explicit). For sure Nolan is an ugly biased shock jock who gives unlimited platform to DUP et al primevalists. However that picture he sent out might be a lot of things but the last thing it is, is him sending a sexually explicit image of himself to the staff or even having the remote intention to do so.
I would advise you to go back and read the actual story.
Quote from: Main Street on August 18, 2023, 12:06:12 AM
Quote from: weareros on August 17, 2023, 11:11:44 PM
While there's no comparison (apart from both being very well and over paid), I still think it highly shocking that Turbridy gets dropped by RTE over the pay scandal and Nolan kept his job at BBC despite sending unsolicited, explicit images to staff.
Afaic Nolan was doing a spoof about a potential (controversial?) interviewee, nobody in their right mind could interpret that image of obese Nolan in braces as explicit (implied sexually explicit). For sure Nolan is an ugly biased shock jock who gives unlimited platform to DUP et al primevalists. However that picture he sent out might be a lot of things but the last thing it is, is him sending a sexually explicit image of himself to the staff or even having the remote intention to do so.
The DUP haven't been on his show for a long long time as they're boycotting it
Quote from: Main Street on August 18, 2023, 12:06:12 AM
Quote from: weareros on August 17, 2023, 11:11:44 PM
While there's no comparison (apart from both being very well and over paid), I still think it highly shocking that Turbridy gets dropped by RTE over the pay scandal and Nolan kept his job at BBC despite sending unsolicited, explicit images to staff.
Afaic Nolan was doing a spoof about a potential (controversial?) interviewee, nobody in their right mind could interpret that image of obese Nolan in braces as explicit (implied sexually explicit). For sure Nolan is an ugly biased shock jock who gives unlimited platform to DUP et al primevalists. However that picture he sent out might be a lot of things but the last thing it is, is him sending a sexually explicit image of himself to the staff or even having the remote intention to do so.
Main Street, have you been on holidays where there's no wifi or are you too tight to buy the Irish News?
the nolan show and talkback its all a charade to promote politics and false saviours political propaganda it is.
Same shite "commentators" on all these shows, your man David McCann is everywhere but the crib
talkback talks about trans debates all the time too
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 17, 2023, 09:18:44 AM
Be surprised if he goes.
Agreed. I'd be amazed if he was axed. Threats of legal action from Nolan now.
What other job would you get away with sending such emails to another employee(Not by accident but deliberately)?
Is anyone else beginning to think the Irish News have dropped a clanger with at least part of this?
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 18, 2023, 11:25:37 AM
Same shite "commentators" on all these shows, your man David McCann is everywhere but the crib
Thon dose Allison Morris the same.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 18, 2023, 02:29:18 PM
Is anyone else beginning to think the Irish News have dropped a clanger with at least part of this?
Having 'staff' in the crowd would have been standard practice in many shows over the years, but there were plenty of incidents that were called out and that practice was binned..
If you are going for someone like Nolan, its gotta be concrete, I doubt he'd slip up anywhere that would be enough to lose his job
He's said sorry, so that's the end of that.
Quote from: Square Ball on August 18, 2023, 03:21:18 PM
He's said sorry, so that's the end of that.
In a very specific and limited way..
He's trying to contain something with his apology and threat of legal action also in a very specific manner!
Quote from: Square Ball on August 18, 2023, 03:21:18 PM
He's said sorry, so that's the end of that.
Seems to be returning the serve to the IN about audience - seems like trying to take the heat off Nolan's picture story.
How do you prove people were planted unless people from within the show say so?
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 18, 2023, 02:29:18 PM
Is anyone else beginning to think the Irish News have dropped a clanger with at least part of this?
No
Quote from: trailer on August 18, 2023, 02:31:43 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 18, 2023, 11:25:37 AM
Same shite "commentators" on all these shows, your man David McCann is everywhere but the crib
Thon dose Allison Morris the same.
She never comes up for air, that slabber. She was on Sky last week giving her 'expert' opinion on PSNI data breach and the presenter had to literally jump in and tell her to shut the f**k up. A complete spoofer.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 18, 2023, 02:29:18 PM
Is anyone else beginning to think the Irish News have dropped a clanger with at least part of this?
Wondering that myself. If they have they could be in big bother.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 18, 2023, 04:40:37 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 18, 2023, 02:29:18 PM
Is anyone else beginning to think the Irish News have dropped a clanger with at least part of this?
Wondering that myself. If they have they could be in big bother.
The only bit they've retracted is that stephen himself planted people on the show or had knowledge of it. Plenty of people have backed up their statement that they have been asked to ask questions by the production team when arriving at the nolan show recording. sure even one of the dup policy directors was planted on the show to throw jeffrey a nice soft pitch before last years election. twitter weren't long in uncovering this 'random citizen'
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 18, 2023, 02:29:18 PM
Is anyone else beginning to think the Irish News have dropped a clanger with at least part of this?
Ahh No
https://x.com/amandafbelfast/status/1692558476453495137?s=46&t=iUnVE0djYGxXIMQRHZ-kzw
Nolan has left himself wide open now.
He says it was to a friend/peer outside the BBC. If it was to staff in BBC, then that's a big old lie using his BBC platform to tell that lie - if Irish News can prove so.
And if what Noel Doran is saying is true, then Nolan used the BBC to spread more lies today.
You'd hope there's someone in BBC HQ taking note of all this. He could be gone soon.
At least the BBC has asked the BBC to clarify and the BBC has responded to the BBC that the BBC can't comment about the BBC to the BBC. The BBC asked the BBC for an interview but the BBC responded to the BBC that no-one from the BBC was available. Communication is key to all of this.
Quote from: red hander on August 18, 2023, 04:21:47 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 18, 2023, 02:31:43 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 18, 2023, 11:25:37 AM
Same shite "commentators" on all these shows, your man David McCann is everywhere but the crib
Thon dose Allison Morris the same.
She never comes up for air, that slabber. She was on Sky last week giving her 'expert' opinion on PSNI data breach and the presenter had to literally jump in and tell her to shut the f**k up. A complete spoofer.
Tell us how you really feel about her Red Hander. 8)
Quote from: restorepride on August 18, 2023, 07:06:02 PM
At least the BBC has asked the BBC to clarify and the BBC has responded to the BBC that the BBC can't comment about the BBC to the BBC. The BBC asked the BBC for an interview but the BBC responded to the BBC that no-one from the BBC was available. Communication is key to all of this.
That post reminds me of a song I did once
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-HF3x67VK9o&pp=ygUMYmJjIG1pbmcgdGVh
(https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-HF3x67VK9o&pp=ygUMYmJjIG1pbmcgdGVh)
Don't know what sort of Mickey mouse outfits you lads work for, if he send it on a work phone, it's a dismissal not a formal warning, the fact he's not gone, would indicate it's his own phone, but threating to send more, should seen him suspended, to Investigate what the hell he was at!
What photo did he send to the friend?
Rodney Edwards tweeting to get the Irish News tomorrow...
Quote from: screenexile on August 18, 2023, 11:20:08 PM
Rodney Edwards tweeting to get the Irish News tomorrow...
Doubling down on their story: https://twitter.com/rr2d2droid/status/1692775847231434803?t=mc1SWUpltb7X8QNQRlpJag&s=19 (https://twitter.com/rr2d2droid/status/1692775847231434803?t=mc1SWUpltb7X8QNQRlpJag&s=19)
Nolan claimed on air that the images were sent to a friend outside of work. Irish News today doubled down on its claim that he sent them to staff, and even published two replies sent by staff on receipt of the images.
Nolan also denied the 'planting staff in the audience claim' and threatened to sue anyone who makes the claim. Bbcni director Adam Smyth emailed the Irish News to demand they retract the claim and apologise. Instead, the Irish News editor has confirmed they have evidence to verify their allegation.
Nolan statement yesterday said he values his audience to much to lie to them. Seems it took less than 24 hours for that claim to fall apart on him if the Irish News are to be believed.
So SF,SDLP and even the DUP have called on the BBC to review their handling of the Nolan fiasco.
I would have thought that Doug Beattie and the UUP would have responded given that Nolan crucified Beattie with his usual sanctimonious hypocrisy; how could you have put those jokes on social media Doug?
However the most disappointing thing has been the silence from Alliance.
Sitting on the fence waiting to see what way the wind is blowing.
Things are either right or wrong Naomi. You have failed the leadership test.
Quote from: Caitlin on August 19, 2023, 08:14:52 AM
So SF,SDLP and even the DUP have called on the BBC to review their handling of the Nolan fiasco.
I would have thought that Doug Beattie and the UUP would have responded given that Nolan crucified Beattie with his usual sanctimonious hypocrisy; how could you have put those jokes on social media Doug?
However the most disappointing thing has been the silence from Alliance.
Sitting on the fence waiting to see what way the wind is blowing.
Things are either right or wrong Naomi. You have failed the leadership test.
Wellllll there's nothing new there is there.
Alliance are too busy trying to sort out their own social media faux pas this week. They'll be minimising access to the main party account from now on!!
Quote from: Estimator on August 19, 2023, 10:58:17 AM
Alliance are too busy trying to sort out their own social media faux pas this week. They'll be minimising access to the main party account from now on!!
What happened?
Quote from: Orior on August 19, 2023, 11:19:06 AM
Quote from: Estimator on August 19, 2023, 10:58:17 AM
Alliance are too busy trying to sort out their own social media faux pas this week. They'll be minimising access to the main party account from now on!!
What happened?
https://twitter.com/Phil_Kelly_/status/1692444628211949701?s=20 (https://twitter.com/Phil_Kelly_/status/1692444628211949701?s=20)
Threatening to expose the secret of an ex SDLP Councillor. Looks nearly like a drunk tweet.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2023, 01:07:18 AM
The obese Nolan pics aren't the ones he's in bother for
I presumed it was the image of Nolan in braces that was claimed to be the sexually explicit item. Still it's just a pile of outrage about nothing much, when Nolan's real crimes lie elsewhere.
It's akin to getting outraged over Al Capone's tax fraud.
I think if he can be ousted get him out... he might be the biggest show in the country but he stokes division and gets people pissed off needlessly which is holding everyone back. The lack of Nationalist participation recently has made it very one sided which can be seen by the Unionist outrage over the current situation. Jamie and Jim need their platform!
If he goes it would be better for everyone!
Quote from: Main Street on August 20, 2023, 11:29:21 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2023, 01:07:18 AM
The obese Nolan pics aren't the ones he's in bother for
I presumed it was the image of Nolan in braces that was claimed to be the sexually explicit item. Still it's just a pile of outrage about nothing much, when Nolan's real crimes lie elsewhere.
It's akin to getting outraged over Al Capone's tax fraud.
Agreed. Look forward hugely to his demise but this so far is relatively tame. Hopefully the start of something
Presume every single guest, when under pressure, will now say "you're one to be talking".
Quote from: Main Street on August 20, 2023, 11:29:21 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2023, 01:07:18 AM
The obese Nolan pics aren't the ones he's in bother for
I presumed it was the image of Nolan in braces that was claimed to be the sexually explicit item. Still it's just a pile of outrage about nothing much, when Nolan's real crimes lie elsewhere.
It's akin to getting outraged over Al Capone's tax fraud.
Go and read the story properly.
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 18, 2023, 02:29:18 PM
Is anyone else beginning to think the Irish News have dropped a clanger with at least part of this?
I'd be very surprised. They would know that Nolan is fond of getting lawyered up and most likely have the back up evidence. Nolan is adopting the old Paisley Jnr strategy "I can't talk about this as the matter is in the hands of my lawyers" in the hope that that shuts down the story.
One of BBCNI's many problems is that its default position is Unionist. That's where it starts and they view impartiality and balance from that position.
Quote from: Pub Bore on August 21, 2023, 09:35:18 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 18, 2023, 02:29:18 PM
Is anyone else beginning to think the Irish News have dropped a clanger with at least part of this?
I'd be very surprised. They would know that Nolan is fond of getting lawyered up and most likely have the back up evidence. Nolan is adopting the old Paisley Jnr strategy "I can't talk about this as the matter is in the hands of my lawyers" in the hope that that shuts down the story.
One of BBCNI's many problems is that its default position is Unionist. That's where it starts and they view impartiality and balance from that position.
Always has and always will be that way.
The clue's in the name.
Be interesting to see if any other stories emerge or will the story drift away?
Regarding Nolan wanting Bear for an interview, did he actually get him for an interview?
Quote from: APM on August 21, 2023, 07:41:52 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 20, 2023, 11:29:21 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2023, 01:07:18 AM
The obese Nolan pics aren't the ones he's in bother for
I presumed it was the image of Nolan in braces that was claimed to be the sexually explicit item. Still it's just a pile of outrage about nothing much, when Nolan's real crimes lie elsewhere.
It's akin to getting outraged over Al Capone's tax fraud.
Go and read the story properly.
Seeing as the hyper sensitive BBC are taking absolutely no action, you tell me what's got you riled up?
Ulster says no to half naked man in braces?
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 18, 2023, 09:35:23 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 18, 2023, 12:06:12 AM
Quote from: weareros on August 17, 2023, 11:11:44 PM
While there's no comparison (apart from both being very well and over paid), I still think it highly shocking that Turbridy gets dropped by RTE over the pay scandal and Nolan kept his job at BBC despite sending unsolicited, explicit images to staff.
Afaic Nolan was doing a spoof about a potential (controversial?) interviewee, nobody in their right mind could interpret that image of obese Nolan in braces as explicit (implied sexually explicit). For sure Nolan is an ugly biased shock jock who gives unlimited platform to DUP et al primevalists. However that picture he sent out might be a lot of things but the last thing it is, is him sending a sexually explicit image of himself to the staff or even having the remote intention to do so.
The DUP haven't been on his show for a long long time as they're boycotting it
Okay, now he can only give platform to the et al primevalists from the unionist side. How the feck would you know that? :) I might tune in trice yearly. The last I remember was tuning in when Donaldsonwas being interviewed pre-election, easily deflecting a soft question about participation should SF win and a post election interview where he was not sufficiently challenged by Nolan on that specific point.
Quote from: Main Street on August 23, 2023, 12:00:39 AM
Quote from: APM on August 21, 2023, 07:41:52 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 20, 2023, 11:29:21 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2023, 01:07:18 AM
The obese Nolan pics aren't the ones he's in bother for
I presumed it was the image of Nolan in braces that was claimed to be the sexually explicit item. Still it's just a pile of outrage about nothing much, when Nolan's real crimes lie elsewhere.
It's akin to getting outraged over Al Capone's tax fraud.
Go and read the story properly.
Seeing as the hyper sensitive BBC are taking absolutely no action, you tell me what's got you riled up?
Ulster says no to half naked man in braces?
Flip sake Main Street. You have got the wrong end of the stick. Just go and read the story again. I don't think the photo you're describing is the issue.
Looks like they haven't a notion of taking any action based on his new documentary on Maghaberry prison getting too billing for BBC's Autumn launch, per today's Irish News.
Quote from: weareros on August 23, 2023, 10:55:07 AM
Looks like they haven't a notion of taking any action based on his new documentary on Maghaberry prison getting too billing for BBC's Autumn launch, per today's Irish News.
What I noticed about that is they would usually have his name plastered over the advertisement whereas it was just his voice, any other work he does such as weight loss or his touring he's made to be the main attraction
Quote from: APM on August 23, 2023, 10:33:35 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 23, 2023, 12:00:39 AM
Quote from: APM on August 21, 2023, 07:41:52 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 20, 2023, 11:29:21 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2023, 01:07:18 AM
The obese Nolan pics aren't the ones he's in bother for
I presumed it was the image of Nolan in braces that was claimed to be the sexually explicit item. Still it's just a pile of outrage about nothing much, when Nolan's real crimes lie elsewhere.
It's akin to getting outraged over Al Capone's tax fraud.
Go and read the story properly.
Seeing as the hyper sensitive BBC are taking absolutely no action, you tell me what's got you riled up?
Ulster says no to half naked man in braces?
Flip sake Main Street. You have got the wrong end of the stick. Just go and read the story again. I don't think the photo you're describing is the issue.
Don't understand why you would take the time to make 2 replies in this regard, but not take the time to briefly explain what you mean??
I have only briefly dipped into this, but based on the limited stuff I have read, I think the explicit photos shared by Nolan to work colleagues were not pics of Nolan himself, but were photos of reality 'star' Stephen Bear
Quote from: Hound on August 23, 2023, 02:54:29 PM
Quote from: APM on August 23, 2023, 10:33:35 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 23, 2023, 12:00:39 AM
Quote from: APM on August 21, 2023, 07:41:52 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 20, 2023, 11:29:21 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2023, 01:07:18 AM
The obese Nolan pics aren't the ones he's in bother for
I presumed it was the image of Nolan in braces that was claimed to be the sexually explicit item. Still it's just a pile of outrage about nothing much, when Nolan's real crimes lie elsewhere.
It's akin to getting outraged over Al Capone's tax fraud.
Go and read the story properly.
Seeing as the hyper sensitive BBC are taking absolutely no action, you tell me what's got you riled up?
Ulster says no to half naked man in braces?
Flip sake Main Street. You have got the wrong end of the stick. Just go and read the story again. I don't think the photo you're describing is the issue.
Don't understand why you would take the time to make 2 replies in this regard, but not take the time to briefly explain what you mean??
I have only briefly dipped into this, but based on the limited stuff I have read, I think the explicit photos shared by Nolan to work colleagues were not pics of Nolan himself, but were photos of reality 'star' Stephen Bear
I think the phrase is "in a state of arousal". Nolan has dodged a bullet big time here.
Series on Maghaberry is an eye-opener. Sad cases.
The lad who got out and took a overdose shouldn't been Allowed out the door, headcase! No-one review what he said at a review hearing or they just let them out now At the end of sentence.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 06, 2023, 01:19:49 AM
The lad who got out and took a overdose shouldn't been Allowed out the door, headcase! No-one review what he said at a review heading or they just let them out now At end of sentence.
You could also make a strong argument that prison isn't the place for people like him, either.
Nah, that lad is dangerous, and never should got out.
Prison definitely wasnt the place for him.
He needed help - instead he was locked up with all of the anger and rage inside of him 24/7.
He had to 'buy' the medication from fellow prisoners FFS.
Sad story
How do you help someone that is in and out of prison for short sentences, if he is getting help outside that would end when he goes inside.
Very little opportunity for rehabilitation of any kind. I have come across quite a few like him through work and this may seem hard hearted but when they are out of jail they aren't really interested in help or any intervention from health care, counselling etc.
I do sympathise with some of the prisoners, clearly not getting the proper help they need. When you hear the backstories of some of them, it's no wonder they end up where they are.
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 08, 2023, 10:47:01 AM
Very little opportunity for rehabilitation of any kind. I have come across quite a few like him through work and this may seem hard hearted but when they are out of jail they aren't really interested in help or any intervention from health care, counselling etc.
Similar to yourself, I come across a few like him through work, maybe not as bad as him but not a million miles off it. Functioning alcoholic/drug users, constantly in debt and probably the only reason they're not in prison is because they've got employment and a bit of family stability.
You can guarantee the first thing most of these people do when released is look for the first party they can find and go on a massive bender.
Quote from: general_lee on September 08, 2023, 11:09:04 AM
I do sympathise with some of the prisoners, clearly not getting the proper help they need. When you hear the backstories of some of them, it's no wonder they end up where they are.
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 08, 2023, 10:47:01 AM
Very little opportunity for rehabilitation of any kind. I have come across quite a few like him through work and this may seem hard hearted but when they are out of jail they aren't really interested in help or any intervention from health care, counselling etc.
Similar to yourself, I come across a few like him through work, maybe not as bad as him but not a million miles off it. Functioning alcoholic/drug users, constantly in debt and probably the only reason they're not in prison is because they've got employment and a bit of family stability.
You can guarantee the first thing most of these people do when released is look for the first party they can find and go on a massive bender.
The bits in bold would represent a hell of a lot of people I'd say
Actually enjoyed the show last night first time i tuned in in a while
The IDF dude wouldn't give you any sympathy for the Israelis
Wee jamie repeating we didnt have stop watch out was weird as was his constant smirking
Suzanne Breen facial expressions about Jamie stole the show
Looks like Gregory Campbell has the dirt on him. BBC statement a joke
Hardly matter, like water off a walrus's back!
Flegory has little to be at.
Nolan must be on an extended holiday.