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Does anyone know how the venue decision is made for semi final and finals etc? brewster makes no sense

it's hardly the first time we shifted a kicking in Kerry, i remember James o'donaghoe running riot a few years ago and many of our best teams didn't have a good record as well but what would annoy me in general, we can't repay the favour in Omagh.

Today showed a lot of our best is not good enough and their best behind them, no midfield or spine, surely brennan has to start at 6, we looked very leggy, kerry had more energy power and speed, our full forward line can't win their own 50/50's, and thinking mcshane can come back in and do what he has only done for 1 year would be too much. McKenna needs to be out the field, he has been anonymous, and the simple comparison between clifford and our best young players is stark. it's going to be the odd ulster and AI semi final if we are lucky for the next 5-6 years - miles off the top 2

Although it was disappointing not to get a result today don't forget that Donegal were going flat out and we have a lot more room for improvement.  Going forward though I'm not sure that Peter Harte has a role to play and we need to be getting more out of Mattie Donnelly and Conor McKenna as we need more leadership from those guys.

Donegal looked in great shape for level 5 restrictions, Tyrone did look abit off in comparison.  With the new setup Donnelly and Harte have the most adjusting to do after being the main men for 6-7 years now (particularly donnelly in today's game) has been told not to drop deep and carry out and stay high and wide and he was particularly quiet.

I would think the two donnellys in midfield would be a better option as burns is out of his depth there.

on a positive note a forward line of donaghy, mckenna, bradley, canavan and mccurry could be very promising if you can accommodate them

in general the winging, bitching and overall feigning of injury on both sides (bar mcnamara cheap shot on mcfadden) has to be addressed urgently as the refs are calling really minor stuff i.e burns lazy hand to the upper arm of langan and he slides to the ground with a roar and holding his head as an example, tyrone are guilt if this as well, morgan hitting his head in the cross bar and needing CPR. IMO there is a real softness of any decent tackle or contact for an excuse to milk a yellow card for the opposition and slows the game down. this needs addressed ASAP.

and finally umpires wearing masks, like ffs

I'm not convinced by Fearghal Logan.

If he's the chosen manager then he will have my full support. He doesn't come across as someone that could fire up a team. I always thought he was a bit soft or lacked passion. It's a weak reason not to consider him but just my 1st impression of the man.

He is obviously knowledgeable and has an underage all Ireland on the CV.

Collie Holmes / Ricey would be my management team.

not convinced by Logan either, and let's be honest that U-21 side came through a tricky ulster championship but won the AI without beating Dublin, kerry, cork, galway, mayo, kildare or  meath. Whilst they could only beat what was in front of them, and an underage title was badly needed it was like a div 2 AI (roscommon and tip) and none of the squad have beaten any of the big guns in championship (i stand to be corrected in this) from minors, and that trend has followed, however I'd give harte 1 more shot with the hope of a fit mcshane & hampsey along with what's there already and that team would not be far away

Surely meyler has to be dropped after them 2 games. He was diabolical, near cost us today again. I'd have raffertty on mchugh. Murphy is near unmarkable anyway so maybe a spoiler on him, Ben mxdonnell maybe.
A complete contrast today when we moved the ball quickly with the foot compared to last weeks lateral keep the ball. Mckenna has been brilliant

Meyler was poor today alright, there was one stage in the second half where he got the ball around the 45 yard line, the Mayo defence was MIA and had a straight run right down the middle of the goal for some reason started running over towards the corner away from goal. It was bizarre as another goal and that stage would have killed the game.

Meyler is a dog for work and he does bring benefits to the team but he hasn't really developed as a footballer, looks a player fairly low on confidence at the minute but he does have the engine and pace to match McHugh and we don't have many of those in the team.

Surely things like that in his game are flagged and are shown to him to try and make him better. There was a def a point if not a goal to be had today if he went straight down the middle that time. Same last week, headed to the corner flag instead of laying of to a runner coming in of his shoulder, got bottled up and kicked down the sideline and donegal turned it over and got there last goal of it. Same in the allireland final, ran out over the sideline with the ball rather than face the Dublin tackle, they scored a goal straight of the sideline ball. Dropped the ball when through at the start for a goal today. Seems to be undroppable along with hampsey and mccann

Meyler, McKernan and mcshane (bar 2018) have been unbelievably frustrating to watch, all of them have all the physical attributes that you would wish for, but nothing between the ears, running into tackles, poor shot selection, cheap cards over and over and over, surely this is mentioned in reviews as mentioned above, but until there is more consistency and improvement there may be a few ulsters but no AI, but McKenna's few glimpses of absolute class would give ye a bit of hope - great to watch

conflicted feelings on the u-20's, on the plus side your in a AI semi and are in the mix of the best in the country (albeit a fairly messed up year) and to be fair to Dublin they where more physically developed and athletic so when they stepped it up a more lightweight and 1 dimensional tyrone had no answer. The most frustrating thing personally was that the amount of poor decisions & kick passing ( particularly into 1 & 2 sweepers) was poor viewing, still would only pick 2 or 3 to have any impact on the senior panel, where in an ideal world you would want at least 5 to be putting their hands up

Think this is crazy, to offer that amount (and let it out) with sites and all the rest, for 1 good year (the previous years he was nowhere near good enough). This year regardless was going to be tougher to back up what he did and not having Donnelly beside him will add to the difficulty, and it will be some crack if he gets injured for a period of time the knives will be out quicker than ever. Nobody would turn it down, but he really doesn't deserve half of it tbh, a job and a car would have been plenty. Not a good precedent to be setting let alone be plastered round the media.

Look it would have been a factor.
He ripped the bone of his hamstring.
Had been off the field for probably the guts of an hour.
Very strange decision ( which I don't blame the player for ) considering how serious the injury was.

This shouldn't happen, bad management decision, a similar incident happen last year in the intermediate final a clearly injured player came on and in the first contact he buckled. Take the decision out of the players hands and use a fit player on the bench or reuse a non-injured sub that you have taken off at worst - no sympathy for either player or manager, if this is the chain of events.

Replays are brilliant.  It's another day out for players and supporters. Another game to look forward to. That's what it's all about. Not 1 player would want it sorted on penaltys

Replays are bias towards the "bigger team" or the favourite you will get more upsets and more entertainment imo and more hope for the underdog that they can get a result that day

2 Tyrone clubs eliminated form their perspective Ulster Championships on penalty shootouts. I understand a winner needs to be determined but the penalty route doesn't seem right to me. I'd sooner see 45s as a GAA alternative maybe just the one nominated kicker one per club.

Portglenone v lamb dearg  had 45s  , a few weeks ago . It was a pile of rubbish  compared to tension penalty kicks would generate !

thought the frees from 35yrds in the antrim c'ship was great, but don't like the penalties, but all in all i think it is a positive having an outright winner on the day, replays are a balls.

Brian Darcy, Micky Harte and all the others who were out marching to support the Quinns are very quiet on the campaign of violence, kidnapping, death threats etc.
Some belt of lawlessness these days stretching from Down through Armagh, Monaghan, Cavan and Fermanagh.

In fairness nobody gave a shite about the campaign of violence and death threats until it escalated into terrorist-style kidnapping and torture.  When the authorities seem to be dragging their heels in response to it, individual citizens would be very foolhardy to stick their own necks out.

This is the real question, the authorities are toothless and gutless, to me there is a 'sure let them ones handle it' sort of vibe of it and regarding the PSNI - realistically if they can't catch a squad of eejits in a low loader and digger carving up bank machines then they will not find anything here. They can only catch ye speeding and that's when you are coming to them ffs.

And then they have the audacity to say in the paper yesterday that the attacks came out of the blue - just a few years of threats and intimidation, cars burned out and an assault in a shop but out of the blue all the same

Jesus wept

Looking ahead to the next 4 year cycle Ireland and their new coaches will need to develop Carberry into a world class #10 which I am sure he has the ability to be with sexton hitting 38 in 2023 he probably won't be much more than a bit part player if even. We also need a new #9 whether thats gonna be McGrath who is definatley able to lead the new team or someone coming from the u20 squads of previous years.

Carberry not good enough, there has to be a better player to go with.

If there is a serious push on this WC Quarter Final thing, and the WC is the be all and end all then Healy, O'Mahony, Sexton, Kearney and Earls have to be culled and serious questions over Stander, Murray, Klyne, Murphy and blood brand new players with an effective game plan - this will probably lead to some very hard to watch years but it is either continue with what has been done before and peak mid-WC Cycle or get to a semi final - I don't think this will happen but I do think that the squad is in decline after 4-5 brilliant years (excluding 2015 WC) and a few players that you only get every 3 or 4 generations, BO'D, P'OC, J Sexton, Conor Murray etc. The barrel is dry and it will be tough watching for a while but it was good while it lasted

it just looks again like a peaking issue, schmidt is on year 5, there is a lot to say in successful coaches usually run in 4 year cycles (olympic cycles) - leinster leaked within 4 years and tailed of, guardiola and that barca side, the recent madrid side and you will probably see it in the liverpool and man city teams shortly - huge peak in irish rugby in 2018 ( and we where only getting over the line in a lot of games)  in personnel, club and country after that the only way is down and stagnation and it won't be admitted but the key players are not at there peak or injury prone and it just we are at the back end of the cycle and there will be a sorry exit i'm afraid - but would live to be wrong

Trillick looked really sharp but the main story is that Dromore completely capitulated after brennan's goal - the flood gates opened then and no way back, no bite or intensity. wouldn't be writing trillick's name on the cup yet, last years champiosnhip should tell us that, what seems like clonoe in the next round would be a massive test for any team.

[to get rid of the 'can't beat any of the big 3' accusations.]

Fed up playing Donegal too..would love to get a crack at Kerry (or Mayo) and try to put to get rid of the  'can't beat any of the big 3' accusations.

Personally I don't think we got the credit we deserved for beating Doneagl (in Ballybofey) and Monaghan in Croke last year.

Sadly, it's more than an accusation. We haven't beaten any of 'the big three' since we won the All-Ireland in 2008. In the intervening eleven years, we've played Dublin, Kerry or Mayo a total of 9 times in the championship and won none of them (only one was a draw, the rest we lost by an average of 5.6 points).

I unfortunately expect another two losses to Dublin & probably Kerry over the following fortnight.

Called it.

There's something about this Tyrone team, and I don't mean that in a complimentary way, sadly.

The are a decent team but nothing more than that. They are a team devoid of leadership, devoid of flair, devoid of anything stand-out. Too many of the same type of uninspiring players that look like they had spent the half hour before games getting their hair sitting just right. And managed by a man who seems to have lost any interest in/ ability for tactical innovation.

I agree with that analysis of the team but not harte, i think he is rinsing the very limits of what he can with this team, we are 3-4 in the country but are missing a midfielder and another forward, atm mark Harte donnelly and mcshane and we are done. Harte will not go, after the sunday game and a lot of "should he go" articles in the press we will get a "I love this team and mickey harte" or something to that effect by the players and it will be as you where 3-5th in the league, probably an ulster title and super 8 or semi exit for 2020 - we don't have the players and they don't have the hard edge/mentality to get an all-ireland