Who is the most bitter after Dubs do 5 in a row

[magpie seanie]

You looking for a job in Croke Park or with Sky??

You talkin to me...?

[Hound]

Excellent analysis Ohtoohtobe.
In 4 of the 5 years there were games where Dublin coulda/shoulda been beaten by Kerry or Mayo.
It's a freak that Dublin have managed to win each year. The three in particular where the opposition had it in their own hands, but it just slipped by where the 2 Mayo own goals, the Vaughan red, and the Moran turnover. If the role of honour of the last 5 years had been: Dublin - Mayo - Mayo - Dublin - Kerry, the narrative would be completely different.

And could you imagine what the ruckus would be if Dubs were dominating at minor!! Instead there's never any discussion how counties can copy Kerry. About all the volunteer hours ex-Kerry players put into their elite squads. Ex-Dubs do that too, and I'm sure it happens in more counties, but could there be more done?
Dublin's best ever minor team were beaten in an AI final by Tipperary.

But who wants to be talking about Mayo Kerry and Dublin all the time? It's boring. It doesn't work. The biggest inequity is the make up itself. And now the Turkeys will vote for Christmas with a second tier. Where's the plan to make all this more even? No plan. We're tossing over the embers of one of the most imbalanced sports there is. It's a flawed concept and you'll still be debating the same issues in twenty years time

That's an interesting point High Fielder. But there's no reason Galway, Cork, Meath, Kildare, Armagh, Tyrone, Donegal all can't be equally as good as Kerry and Mayo. Of those, IMO, Tyrone and Donegal are the only two who punch at their weight, but the others all show the odd glimmer that they're getting their house in order. I appreciate there will be ups and downs as the really top quality players come and go. I fully believe there will be no more than a kick of the ball between Dublin and Kildare should they play in Leinster next year and await with interest the PP odds. And I think the next 5 years will be very competitive between the top 5 or 6.

[Blowitupref]

2019: Kerry led by a point at the end of normal time and David Moran just had to play a routine pass to Tommy Walsh, who was completely unmarked, for what would surely have been the decisive score. He took a play instead, lost possession, and Dublin drew and won the replay convincingly.

That's one way to look at it another would be in the last 10 minutes of the drawn match (3 minutes of normal time and 7 minutes of injury time) Kerry did not have one shot. Only had 4 possessions and only got inside the Dublin 45 once. The signs were clear if Dublin had 15 men for all of the replay they would be winning it comfortably as they did.

In other words you have to go back 2 years since Dublin didn't win a 15 v 15 match convincingly and Kerry were better in 2016 as they didn't have the extra man advantage for one full half to push Dublin all the way.

I fully believe there will be no more than a kick of the ball between Dublin and Kildare should they play in Leinster next year and await with interest the PP odds.

Based on what?

[Owenmoresider]

Cork Ladies football.

Since 2005 -
-11 All ireland final appearances.
Achieving a 5 in a row and then a 6 in row.

Now thats an achievement.

2005 to 2016 you mean. Mayo caught them on the hop in 2017 and then Dublin broke them since. Three now and counting.

[dublin7]

This decade has actually been a golden age for football, especially the  last 5 years. If people could put their dublin bitterness/jealousy aside just consider how many epic games there have been between Dublin, Mayo and Kerry.

We have also seen the death of the blanket defence (unless your from Tyrone)

Dublin are coming back to the pack and there should be some epic games between themselves and Kerry in the next decade with a young Donegal team coming through as well and Cork finally showing signs of getting their s**t together

Finally with the introduction of a 2nd tier championship teams like Leitrim, Limerick, Louth have a genuine chance to actually win a trophy come the summer and hopefully its given a chance

[Owenmoresider]

This decade has actually been a golden age for football, especially the  last 5 years. If people could put their dublin bitterness/jealousy aside just consider how many epic games there have been between Dublin, Mayo and Kerry.

We have also seen the death of the blanket defence (unless your from Tyrone)

Dublin are coming back to the pack and there should be some epic games between themselves and Kerry in the next decade with a young Donegal team coming through as well and Cork finally showing signs of getting their s**t together

Finally with the introduction of a 2nd tier championship teams like Leitrim, Limerick, Louth have a genuine chance to actually win a trophy come the summer and hopefully its given a chance

You actually believe that? 

[Rossfan]

And don't forget the death of the Leinster Championship in this "golden age", and the near death of 90% of the AI Championship.

[haveaharp]

We have also seen the death of the blanket defence (unless your from Tyrone)

You can't be saying that with a straight face. Dublin and Kerry when not in possession will regularly funnel every man behind the ball, Kerry especially. Mayo Galway Fermanagh all particularly bad for it. Tyrone's version of the blanket isn't that different but they regularly rack up high scores. However they have other attributes that make them all but unwatchable. It will change in time with a change in regime.

[GalwayBayBoy]

This decade has actually been a golden age for football, especially the  last 5 years.

Golden age for football was surely the 90's when we had 8 different winners. Seems absolutely inconceivable now and we'll surely never see that again.

[dublin7]

We have also seen the death of the blanket defence (unless your from Tyrone)

You can't be saying that with a straight face. Dublin and Kerry when not in possession will regularly funnel every man behind the ball, Kerry especially. Mayo Galway Fermanagh all particularly bad for it. Tyrone's version of the blanket isn't that different but they regularly rack up high scores. However they have other attributes that make them all but unwatchable. It will change in time with a change in regime.

This is the usual nonsense spouted about Dublin being a defensive team. Kerry and Dublin at times drop men behind the ball, but it's not their basic plan A,B & C like it is for Tyrone.

[MayoBuck]

We have also seen the death of the blanket defence (unless your from Tyrone)

You can't be saying that with a straight face. Dublin and Kerry when not in possession will regularly funnel every man behind the ball, Kerry especially. Mayo Galway Fermanagh all particularly bad for it. Tyrone's version of the blanket isn't that different but they regularly rack up high scores. However they have other attributes that make them all but unwatchable. It will change in time with a change in regime.

This is the usual nonsense spouted about Dublin being a defensive team. Kerry and Dublin at times drop men behind the ball, but it's not their basic plan A,B & C like it is for Tyrone.

You give Tyrone an awful hard time but in the semi-final this year Kerry only played 5 forwards. Paul Murphy was a full time sweeper. Meanwhile Tyrone were constantly kicking the ball into their full forward line.

Against Dublin, Kerry only played 4 forwards as Killian Spillane was dropped. What makes Tyrone so defensive?

[Cunny Funt]

This decade has actually been a golden age for football, especially the  last 5 years.

Golden age for football was surely the 90's when we had 8 different winners. Seems absolutely inconceivable now and we'll surely never see that again.

Would agree with that and i probably won't see such a competitive decade again in my lifetime. For now it's hoping Dublin fall back into pack to make the All Ireland series more competitive but i don't see that happening any time soon.

[haveaharp]

We have also seen the death of the blanket defence (unless your from Tyrone)

You can't be saying that with a straight face. Dublin and Kerry when not in possession will regularly funnel every man behind the ball, Kerry especially. Mayo Galway Fermanagh all particularly bad for it. Tyrone's version of the blanket isn't that different but they regularly rack up high scores. However they have other attributes that make them all but unwatchable. It will change in time with a change in regime.

This is the usual nonsense spouted about Dublin being a defensive team. Kerry and Dublin at times drop men behind the ball, but it's not their basic plan A,B & C like it is for Tyrone.

And they get to the halfway line, hit the blanket and start playing it across the middle. Watch the final and the replay again, it happened plenty of times.

[dublin7]

We have also seen the death of the blanket defence (unless your from Tyrone)

You can't be saying that with a straight face. Dublin and Kerry when not in possession will regularly funnel every man behind the ball, Kerry especially. Mayo Galway Fermanagh all particularly bad for it. Tyrone's version of the blanket isn't that different but they regularly rack up high scores. However they have other attributes that make them all but unwatchable. It will change in time with a change in regime.

This is the usual nonsense spouted about Dublin being a defensive team. Kerry and Dublin at times drop men behind the ball, but it's not their basic plan A,B & C like it is for Tyrone.

You give Tyrone an awful hard time but in the semi-final this year Kerry only played 5 forwards. Paul Murphy was a full time sweeper. Meanwhile Tyrone were constantly kicking the ball into their full forward line.

Against Dublin, Kerry only played 4 forwards as Killian Spillane was dropped. What makes Tyrone so defensive?

Tyrone are essentially a basketball side. They sit back and defend and then try to hit teams on the break by hand passing up the pitch. They pick 1/2 forwards and the rest of the team are just worker bees. Is it a coincidence all the potential forwards who have dropped themselves from the county panel in the last few years??

If you are club player from Kerry, Dublin or Mayo and you're a forward you have ay least 4 out and out attacking  positions to strive for. Tyrone have 2 max. It must be soul destroying as a forward training/playing for Tyrone with their current system. Your ability to kick points is less important than your ability to run up and the pitch like an endurance runner.  I mean when was the last time Tyrone beat a top side with their blanket defence tactics???

[seafoid]

This decade has actually been a golden age for football, especially the  last 5 years. If people could put their dublin bitterness/jealousy aside just consider how many epic games there have been between Dublin, Mayo and Kerry.

We have also seen the death of the blanket defence (unless your from Tyrone)

Dublin are coming back to the pack and there should be some epic games between themselves and Kerry in the next decade with a young Donegal team coming through as well and Cork finally showing signs of getting their s**t together

Finally with the introduction of a 2nd tier championship teams like Leitrim, Limerick, Louth have a genuine chance to actually win a trophy come the summer and hopefully its given a chance

"The sight of a once vicious rivalry surviving on life support is the GAA's primetime product on the third weekend of June in 2019.
So finishes the decade with the Leinster football championship in ruin as any sense of competitiveness is lost. An era that begun with Meath thumping Dublin to the tune of 5-9 to 0-13 in this very fixture concludes with no provincial rivalry to speak about."