Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2024, 08:49:44 AMWith Klopp gone I'd say that Arsenal will be City's biggest rivals for the next few seasons, hopefully they get the one at least with this generation of playersMight be even 2024 yet
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Show posts MenuQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2024, 08:49:44 AMWith Klopp gone I'd say that Arsenal will be City's biggest rivals for the next few seasons, hopefully they get the one at least with this generation of playersMight be even 2024 yet
Quote from: square_ball on May 13, 2024, 02:23:24 PMIn between phone calls today, she'll be up the ladder trying to patch up that roof.Can she tile? I hear Betsy from the canteen tiled over her own kitchen worktop.
Quote from: square_ball on May 13, 2024, 01:57:58 PMShe can have a good hard think about things on the long bus ride to Wembley. Down 20 quid and no one beside her to distract her will focus the mind.Quote from: tiempo on May 13, 2024, 01:51:08 PMKath on reception is currently the 8th best receptionist in the league, by 6pm on Sunday she could be 6th best, its a fickle sport but I wish her well in her reception-based endeavors for the week ahead knowing that her contribution far outweighs anything Rashford has done this season
Kath has been working from home too much and taking the complete piss. Now Jim has her back in the office she should be back in the Top 4 next season.
Quote from: tiempo on May 13, 2024, 01:13:07 PMYou can sing that.Quote from: Look-Up! on May 13, 2024, 01:11:34 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on May 13, 2024, 12:53:51 PMIs AF still not involved behind the scenes though. Constantly on the screen anytime Utd play. They made some big hullabaloo about a new role he was employed in a few years ago too if I remember. When Ronaldo returned, it was his doing according to some and the man himself. Big big say in managerial appointments we are told. So some of the worst decisions these Glazers have made and dropped the club in the shite, were they not just listening to great football men?Quote from: tiempo on May 13, 2024, 10:40:26 AMAhhh the old ... not having top quality football people ... chestnut
One step removed from Neville's 'best in class' trope
So to address that they've acquired a 71yo billionaire minority shareholder supporter and Jason Wilcox
The football world is trembling at the prospect!
And if all else fails blame the Glazers, who to date have 5 PL titles and a European Cup under their tenure
Any current successful team that doesn't have top quality football people behind the scenes? The 5 PL titles and a European Cup was won with Ferguson still there and the structure of the club and how it was ran went with his retirement. The true worth of the Glazers has been seen since.
If Ferguson hadn't stuck his nose in horsey business Utd might have had better outcomes
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 13, 2024, 12:53:51 PMIs AF still not involved behind the scenes though. Constantly on the screen anytime Utd play. They made some big hullabaloo about a new role he was employed in a few years ago too if I remember. When Ronaldo returned, it was his doing according to some and the man himself. Big big say in managerial appointments we are told. So some of the worst decisions these Glazers have made and dropped the club in the shite, were they not just listening to great football men?Quote from: tiempo on May 13, 2024, 10:40:26 AMAhhh the old ... not having top quality football people ... chestnut
One step removed from Neville's 'best in class' trope
So to address that they've acquired a 71yo billionaire minority shareholder supporter and Jason Wilcox
The football world is trembling at the prospect!
And if all else fails blame the Glazers, who to date have 5 PL titles and a European Cup under their tenure
Any current successful team that doesn't have top quality football people behind the scenes? The 5 PL titles and a European Cup was won with Ferguson still there and the structure of the club and how it was ran went with his retirement. The true worth of the Glazers has been seen since.
Quote from: NAG1 on May 13, 2024, 09:57:51 AMDo you think anything has changed with Ratcliffe coming onboard?Quote from: TabClear on May 13, 2024, 09:54:39 AMQuote from: johnnycool on May 13, 2024, 09:31:58 AMQuote from: tiempo on May 13, 2024, 09:18:25 AMQuote from: johnnycool on May 13, 2024, 08:44:00 AMThe Theatre of wet dreams....
I'll get me coat.
But it reeks of owners who've bled the club dry and not one bean of their money will ever be spent on Manchester United.
How can you say that, just the £2.1bn in player acquisitions since they bought the club
And not one bean of it from the Glazers.
That was all revenue generated by Man Utd PLC.
True, but as owners they could have used the cash reserves to pay themselves dividends so it is their money. I dont disagree that they have been shocking owners but it is a case of spending money badly rather than not spending it.
Its the risks of being a plc as United was, there are benefits in terms of access to cash to invest and grow but you are vulnerable to an unwanted owner coming in.
That's the exact point they were paying themselves the dividends at the same time. So instead of redeveloping the stadium and training facilities alongside investing in the playing squad, they choose one.
The money has been invested badly in the playing squad but that comes from not having top quality football people making those calls, you had Ed Woodward with his finance background and no discernible footballing decision making structure.
But they dont care as long as the club keeps making money for them.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2024, 08:31:07 PMExactly what part of Jim Radcliffe and having full operational control is it that you're having difficulty understanding.Quote from: Look-Up! on May 10, 2024, 03:51:46 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2024, 03:30:28 PMWho made the decision on the staff? was it Ratcliffe (minority share holder) or the Glazers (majority) that stopped Betsy from getting her husband a ticket and charged her £20 quid for the bus to Wembley?I don't know, maybe the "Operations Manager"?
Personally I think they have done them a favour and saved them a horrible day out
Favour or not, not every year you make a cup final and I'm sure a jolly to London, a bed for the night and a match ticket is a really really big deal for ordinary folk on minimum to average industrial wage.
It's certainly the last two years in a row.
So it's not Ratcliffe but the operations manager?
I've a friend who's daughter dates somebody who's a marketing manager at City, he gets the same wage that he got in his last marketing job.
Just because they are loaded, people get paid to do a job, not overpaid, and yes him and his girlfriend are heading to Wembley, mainly because City can't fill their own stadium
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2024, 03:30:28 PMWho made the decision on the staff? was it Ratcliffe (minority share holder) or the Glazers (majority) that stopped Betsy from getting her husband a ticket and charged her £20 quid for the bus to Wembley?I don't know, maybe the "Operations Manager"?
Personally I think they have done them a favour and saved them a horrible day out
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2024, 02:48:47 PMYou're gonna have to spell it out for me MR2Quote from: Look-Up! on May 10, 2024, 02:05:24 PMQuote from: johnnycool on May 10, 2024, 12:00:30 PMDefinitely shades of a charlatan about him. Utd people are understandably fed up with how the club is ran but I don't understand the "man on a white horse" vibe some are quick enough to bestow on him.Quote from: Look-Up! on May 10, 2024, 09:19:19 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2024, 09:02:28 AMMan City or any other club gets to a cup final, it's common to give a ticket plus one and pay for lunch and transport on what's a very special occasion. Mean act to take that away from regular staff. I think the problems and imbalance of power at OT will not be sorted out by taking Betsy from the canteen down a peg or two.Quote from: Look-Up! on May 10, 2024, 07:00:22 AMRatcliffe making a lot of noise for a minority stakeholder. Cut all the perks of the staff for FA cup final day just before a swanky lunch for the players' WAGs, all paid for by the club. Nice.
Staff are getting 1 ticket and have to pay £20 for the bus? They have 1,100 staff! as for the dinner, seems that's been a tradition going back to Busby.
I hope they beat Arsenal this weekend
Bit of unnecessary chest pumping from the man with the new hat. Lets see how he gets on with the real job.
A tory is gonna tory..
hammer the low hanging fruit.
He's a billionaire, same as the Glazers. You don't become one of them by being generous and stupid. He has approx a 25% stake, Glazers 50%. He's the ops manager or whatever, fair enough, but a minority stakeholder none the less. Someone else controls the club. Any of his own money he spends, he immediately, effectively, loses 75% control of. I don't buy it, no one is that stupid or generous and if they were the Glazers would be the first to take full advantage.
As all things associated with Utd, this latest saga is going to be very entertaining if nothing else.
So is it the Glazers doing it or Ratcliffe
Quote from: johnnycool on May 10, 2024, 12:00:30 PMDefinitely shades of a charlatan about him. Utd people are understandably fed up with how the club is ran but I don't understand the "man on a white horse" vibe some are quick enough to bestow on him.Quote from: Look-Up! on May 10, 2024, 09:19:19 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2024, 09:02:28 AMMan City or any other club gets to a cup final, it's common to give a ticket plus one and pay for lunch and transport on what's a very special occasion. Mean act to take that away from regular staff. I think the problems and imbalance of power at OT will not be sorted out by taking Betsy from the canteen down a peg or two.Quote from: Look-Up! on May 10, 2024, 07:00:22 AMRatcliffe making a lot of noise for a minority stakeholder. Cut all the perks of the staff for FA cup final day just before a swanky lunch for the players' WAGs, all paid for by the club. Nice.
Staff are getting 1 ticket and have to pay £20 for the bus? They have 1,100 staff! as for the dinner, seems that's been a tradition going back to Busby.
I hope they beat Arsenal this weekend
Bit of unnecessary chest pumping from the man with the new hat. Lets see how he gets on with the real job.
A tory is gonna tory..
hammer the low hanging fruit.