Ulster Colleges

Started by Line Ball, October 13, 2012, 06:59:14 PM

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smort

Is the all-star team still decided by trial matches?

Just seen the team posted there and no players from Omagh, Dungannon or Donaghmore

Kidder81

Quote from: smort on April 09, 2024, 10:34:38 PMIs the all-star team still decided by trial matches?

Just seen the team posted there and no players from Omagh, Dungannon or Donaghmore

Yeah, well the hurling definitely is & I assume the football is the same. They are a nonsense

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Kidder81 on April 09, 2024, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: smort on April 09, 2024, 10:34:38 PMIs the all-star team still decided by trial matches?

Just seen the team posted there and no players from Omagh, Dungannon or Donaghmore

Yeah, well the hurling definitely is & I assume the football is the same. They are a nonsense
I'm sure the argument is that good players on shit teams may get overlooked. Sore on boys that have a good campaign but have a poor trial.

bennydorano

There were 2 x trials days with 60 students from Colleges at A,B & C grades at it, think 4 per school are invited. The 2nd trial took place the Wed after the Hogan. Tony Scullion in charge.

Armagh18

Quote from: bennydorano on April 09, 2024, 11:43:36 PMThere were 2 x trials days with 60 students from Colleges at A,B & C grades at it, think 4 per school are invited. The 2nd trial took place the Wed after the Hogan. Tony Scullion in charge.

Was there not county u20 fixtures on that Wednesday if I remember rightly?

Don't think trials the best way to do it imo, give it for actual performances. Lads probably enough football with county minor/u20 games starting and club leagues as well.

square_ball

Perhaps a mix of trials and actual performances would be a better system to pick the team. Omagh are back to back MacRory and Hogan Cup winners and have had 1 all star in the last 2 years. Daly and McCullagh missing out on all stars shows the current system doesn't work.

lurganblue

Quote from: square_ball on April 10, 2024, 08:18:20 AMPerhaps a mix of trials and actual performances would be a better system to pick the team. Omagh are back to back MacRory and Hogan Cup winners and have had 1 all star in the last 2 years. Daly and McCullagh missing out on all stars shows the current system doesn't work.

Pretty damming that.

Duine Inteacht Eile

I don't think there is a fairer system than the trials but the timing of them is poor.
Omagh didn't send players to the trials because it was just before the Hogan Cup final?

Milltown Row2

Picking players from the players that turn up at the trials has been done for years, schools parents and players know this.

Why is it a problem now?

My wee Johnny didn't get picked?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Duine Inteacht Eile

I think the issue is that Omagh were in the Hogan final a couple of days after the trials and therefore their players didn't attend.
At least that's what I heard. That should be easily avoided.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: bennydorano on April 09, 2024, 11:43:36 PMThere were 2 x trials days with 60 students from Colleges at A,B & C grades at it, think 4 per school are invited. The 2nd trial took place the Wed after the Hogan. Tony Scullion in charge.

Benny is saying the second trial happened on the Wed after?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Duine Inteacht Eile

The first trial was the Wednesday before.
I think you do the first and get a call back for the second.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 10, 2024, 07:22:28 PMThe first trial was the Wednesday before.
I think you do the first and get a call back for the second.

Not sure on that tbh.  I've done them in the past, been various different system used based on logistics pitches availability who's covering it and so on.

It's not just thrown together as I'm sure you know.

Dates in a GAA calendar year are getting squeezed every year

But for sure the Omagh lads would have taken the majority of spots.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Duine Inteacht Eile

Perhaps. Just going on what I heard and would make sense as to why Omagh didn't have a single player make the team.

Saffrongael

In the hurling you had to make the cut from the first trial to make the second, I'm sure the football is the same.

I know the first hurling trial was just a few days after St Killians All Ireland win. Maybe they could look at weighting it between performances in games, adjudicated by Ulster Colleges staff, and trial games at the end of the year. Especially when there are UCAS points now involved for the students.

Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come