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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2017, 09:42:04 AM »
Perhaps Bomber - I don't know any Free Staters though as most are dead.

However, when you do climb off the moral high horse, perhaps you can let me know what the families want from this.

Perhaps it's the 'truth' and fair enough. I'm all on for that.

But while on the horse consider the questions most of us so-called Free Staters would have for the Republican movement. if it's truth that's wanted let's all have some.

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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2017, 09:50:55 AM »
Perhaps Bomber - I don't know any Free Staters though as most are dead.

However, when you do climb off the moral high horse, perhaps you can let me know what the families want from this.

Perhaps it's the 'truth' and fair enough. I'm all on for that.

But while on the horse consider the questions most of us so-called Free Staters would have for the Republican movement. if it's truth that's wanted let's all have some.

What do the families want from this?

Do you have to ask? Justice. For years they have been obstructed justice, the loss of life has been further smeared by unsubstantiated verdicts of arson, nobody has ever been held accountable for the fire and in fact it would look like political and judiciary have schemed together to ever stop the truth from ever emerging.

Would you have had the same outlook for members of the Hillsborough families of Bloody Sunday families in their quests for justice? The state are not interested in getting justice for the families of the Dublin/Monaghan, Stardust bombings. They look to have been heavily involved in obstructing justice in the murder of Fr Niall Molloy and the disappearance of Mary Boyle.

This seems to met with general indifference by the Free State public and media, yet they will happily give a platform to one side of the victims from a war that happened primarily in another state.

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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2017, 11:13:43 AM »
There was an individual charged in the Fr. Molloy case.
Found "not guilty" .
As far as I recall his wife had made a Statement but when she went in the witness box couldn't remember anything.
Maybe Bomber if you unwashed your brain from "SF good everyone else bad" and stopped the stupid "free state" crap someone here might take you serious.
We hear unsubstantiated allegations about the poor Mary Boyle case and the Stardust tragedy.
You've decided in your superior wisdom that they are facts.
A bit like the British Police in the Birmingham 6, Guildford and Maguire cases.
And I didn't even mention "Steak knife"
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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2017, 11:25:01 AM »
There was an individual charged in the Fr. Molloy case.
Found "not guilty" .
As far as I recall his wife had made a Statement but when she went in the witness box couldn't remember anything.
Maybe Bomber if you unwashed your brain from "SF good everyone else bad" and stopped the stupid "free state" crap someone here might take you serious.
We hear unsubstantiated allegations about the poor Mary Boyle case and the Stardust tragedy.
You've decided in your superior wisdom that they are facts.
A bit like the British Police in the Birmingham 6, Guildford and Maguire cases.
And I didn't even mention "Steak knife"

He was found not guilty. A close family friend of these accused was the judge. A FF TD attended the event that night.

Didn't FF recently throw a conniption when legislation was changed recently whereby appointments of judges will now be done by an external, independent panel?

I wonder why they were so opposed?

You seem to not to want to take on board all these happy coincidences? Why is that?

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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2017, 11:31:28 AM »
Bomber's topic is corruption in the South. He is on the ball but he has very little data. Stardust is a long time ago. Kids in care have died far more recently.

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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2017, 12:21:50 PM »
The Stardust Relatives provided a report for Judge McCartan to examine recently. Allegedly containing new "evidence" McCartan who was a Workers Party T.D. for that area of Dublin, who would be very familiar with the Stardust tragedy and certainly wouldnt be an establishment hack
found absolutely nothing in the report to justify a new tribunal. The fact that the report was something a Transition Year student would staple together was of no help.
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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2017, 12:22:36 PM »
Is there any pure  State anywhere to take poor Bomber in as both State and Statelet in Ireland are much too corrupt for him.
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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2017, 05:41:31 PM »
Bomber's topic is corruption in the South. He is on the ball but he has very little data. Stardust is a long time ago. Kids in care have died far more recently.

The state needs a reboot.

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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2017, 08:16:41 PM »
Is there any pure  State anywhere to take poor Bomber in as both State and Statelet in Ireland are much too corrupt for him.

I fielded a few questions your way. Any comment?

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« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2017, 08:35:08 PM »
You should have sent them to FF HQ.
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« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2017, 08:40:53 PM »
Bomber's topic is corruption in the South. He is on the ball but he has very little data. Stardust is a long time ago. Kids in care have died far more recently.

The state needs a reboot.

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Nah. Accountability
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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2017, 09:44:52 PM »
Nobody took responsibility for the crash . Nobody gives a shit about public money

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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2017, 07:49:52 PM »
You should have sent them to FF HQ.

I think its fairly clear to see which way your bread is buttered.

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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2017, 08:03:42 PM »
Yer a great buck for jumping to conclusions.
You have a rant about FF and connections and then ask me to answer your theory.
When I don't play your game you jump to another conclusion.
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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2017, 08:34:50 PM »
Yer a great buck for jumping to conclusions.
You have a rant about FF and connections and then ask me to answer your theory.
When I don't play your game you jump to another conclusion.

I've proven my own theory, free stater like to turn a blind eye to the murky dealings of the establishment parties they vote in. Who do you vote for?